AA99170 RAF 4 Piece Set No.1 Squadron

[shuttle]

Just heard about the following - AA99170 RAF 4 Piece Set No.1 Squadron – Through The Ages £119.99.

Consisting of:

Hawker Hurricane MkI – 1940

Gloster Meteor F8 – 1950

Hawker Hunter FGA9 – 1960

Hawker Siddeley Harrier GR.3 – 1970

''Limited to just 2000 pieces, this unique set which charts the history of Number One Squadron from World War Two to the present day, this non-catalogue release is sure to be in high demand and prove difficult to find! The models in the set are pictured below - as with all Corgi sets, this will be supplied in a collectors box with full artwork and inside the box details about the squadron will be printed'.

:) Shuttle

[diecaster]

I'll have it for £50 in 6 months time, can always keep the Hurricane in the box :D :D

Diecaster

[charley]

Sounds like a Nice set...That RRP just ain't right :rolleyes:

Might just 'Hold out' for this one...

Don't ever recall that suggested as a box set on this Forum?

Tell you what...

Mr Corgi... My box set of 'Shuttleworth Collection' Spitfire and Sea Hurricane (minor retool permitted) VS your No.1 Sqn box set... or how about a Prototypes box set... Spit Hurri and Mossie... :rolleyes:

Am i being negative :o ...I'll get my coat.... :rolleyes:

[Looneygooner]

When is it out? :)

[klepto4]

This is a new one. Agree I will hold out and see it in the flesh first :)

[CFBC]

News to I.... Is it an "official" Corgi release Shuttle or one that No.1 Squadron has put together? Not doubting you at all, but just curious...... :)

[Agent X20]

Either an April fool or its coming............ but at £30 per model.. COME OFF IT CORGI...

Rip off, rip off, rip off.... getting a little tired of this...
.. and they wonder why they end up in the dump bins...

£60 .. there might have been a few placing a pre order but now.. stuff it.... :mad: :mad: :mad:

[NeilD]

yep too much money for what may be a nice box, but a good idea - its a collection... ;) but again, why 1 Sqn ?? they're not celebrating any particular anniversary this year, but theres a few sqns celebrating 90 THIS year, who will be having reunions, events etc AND THEY COULD'VE SOLD A FEW !!!! WHATS IT LIKE ON PLANET-CORGI, HAVE THEY BEEN STARVED OF OXYGEN!!!

Neil... AAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!! :D

[Agent X20]

Naw... they seem to be taking on the title for............................................... ............................... :D

[NeilD]

I've changed my Avatar in honour of 'love a Spitfire week' :D and to keep things simple its a Mk24 NOT a VVIIIIX !!! :p

Neil.

[Agent X20]

Bring back the VC10...!!!!

[The Defiant Man]

Good idea....too expensive......will buy at £50 (maybe £60)......perhaps they chose 1 Sqdn coz they (will soon) have enough of the types it has flown?

[shuttle]

No wind up. I received an email from one of the companies I have used in the past (and pre-ordered some of this years goodies from). When you work out the full RRP of the 4 models if sold separately (3 x £25 and the Meteor @ £35) it ain't too outrageous. The company who emailed me are doing a pre-order price of £105. I have added a picture as well to show the contents. I am tempted.......!

:) Shuttle

[Agent X20]

Each to his own... :D and I suppose they are basic schemes... but at anything over £60. naw....

[shuttle]

Agent,

Spot on. The RAF is my favourite AA subject and the 4 models look nice. It 'floats my boat' so I am tempted but of course I will shop around.

:D Shuttle

[Agent X20]

Even at 2000 i dont think you will have problems finding these at £40-50

LAPG.. I reckon will be £25-30

[shuttle]

Agent,

I bet some s**mbag puts it on eBay at £250 BIN!!

:D Shuttle

[Agent X20]

Not for at least 5 years...

Have you a problem with £250 BIN's..?

[goonybird]

When I said in other threads that Corgi might take a leaf out of Airfix's book, I wasn't quite thinking of multiple box sets that have big boxes that don't sell, than get dumped in woolies!

[The Defiant Man]

Like the look of the Meteor....no horrible day-glo bits...

[Agent X20]

Chance would be a fine thing if you could buy em in Woolies..

[Agent X20]

.. which brings me onto another question.. wonder how many 1/72 Dambusters Argos have taken off Corgis hands... and how many will they sell at £99.99....

[shuttle]

Agent,

I refer to the the recent MZ Spitfire activity with a £25 model being flogged for £50 plus BIN. I have a lot of problems with £250 BIN's if they are a con....

The Defiant Man, the Meteor does looks nice!

:) Shuttle

[Gannet]

Mmmm...

I think I'd rather see a No.1 Sqdn-Tower Bridge special with just the Hunter and a big model of Tower Bridge.

Nice commemoration of Flt Lt Al Pollock and the day he flew a Hunter underneath Tower Bridge.

4 April 1968

Wow :eek:

[mozzer]

When is the set due for release ?

[Agent X20]

Agent,

I refer to the the recent MZ Spitfire activity with a £25 model being flogged for £50 plus BIN. I have a lot of problems with £250 BIN's if they are a con....

The Defiant Man, the Meteor does looks nice!

:) Shuttle

If it aint available elsewhere then its what ever peeps can get for it.. what annoys me is when its still on sale at RRP.. but hey..!

[shuttle]

Agent,

So RRP is more annoying then BIN for double the price? I think not. I am sure MZ sold most of their Spits at RRP but it's the eBay merchants who have annoyed most of the punters on this board with their inflated prices.

:) Shuttle

[Agent X20]

think we are actually in agreement here old sport.. what I should have said was . what annoys me is (the silly E Bay prices) when its still on sale at RRP.. but hey..!

[shuttle]

Agent,

I thought that was what you meant!!

:D Shuttle

[Agent X20]

Anyway.. dont think you will see your No 1 squadron set on at £250 for a little while.. £25 perhaps.. :D :) :rolleyes:

[Agent Carr]

Its not a bad set for the price. Might even consider buying one at full price as they will not hang around long. Wish Corgi would do sets collectors would be more intrested in. Still waiting for them to do a JU88 so I can have my first kill over Britain Set.

[Agent X20]

First kill over Britain was an He 111....

[condor]

First kill over Britain was an He 111....
Indeed it was - HE111 H-2 (1H+JA) flown by Uffz Lehmkuhl - it was attacked by fighters and forced to land at Humbie, south of Edinburgh on 28 October 1939 ;)


Condor

[Agent Carr]

Wrong it was a JU88 that George Pinkerton shot down. The He111 was shot down latter that day by a City of Edinburgh aircraft.

[Agent X20]

Indeed it was - HE111 H-2 (1H+JA) flown by Uffz Lehmkuhl - it was attacked by fighters and forced to land at Humbie, south of Edinburgh on 28 October 1939 ;)


Condor

Thats what i thought.. without reference to books etc etc

[condor]

Wrong it was a JU88 that George Pinkerton shot down. The He111 was shot down latter that day by a City of Edinburgh aircraft.

Agent Carr - I found this on the net - FIRST PLANE SHOT DOWN IN BRITAIN

The first plane shot down over the British Isles was a Heinkel 111, built at the Heinkel-Werke in Oranienburg in October, 1938. It crash-landed at Dumbie, near Dalkeith, in south eastern Scotland on October 28, 1939. Two of the crew survived while two others were killed during the attack, which is credited to Spitfires of 602 and 603 Squadrons. http://members.iinet.net.au/~gduncan/facts.html is the site if interested



Condor

[condor]

I also found this on the same site further down; RAF FIGHTER COMMAND'S FIRST KILL

On October 16, 1939, German JU 88s from the island of Sylt, attacked naval ships in the harbour at Rosyth, Scotland. About to enter dry dock for repairs was the battle cruiser HMS Hood, but the pilots had strict orders not to attack. A personal order from Hitler stated "Should the Hood already be in dock, no attack is to be made, I won't have a single civilian killed." After the raid, in which the 9,100 ton cruiser HMS Southampton was damaged, Spitfires from RAF Turnhouse, near Edinburgh, attacked the departing JUs and one was shot down, hitting the sea off Port Seton. This was the first enemy plane to be brought down by RAF Fighter Command.

So this means the Ju88 was the 1st to be shot down (over the sea) the HE111 was the first shot down (over land).




Condor

[Agent Carr]

Condor you are correct. The HE111 was a recce aircraft and was shot down over land however the first proper kill of the war goes the JU88 shot down over the Forth. The HE111 was shot down by City of Edinburgh (602) who tried to claim it as the first kill due to locally tensions with the City of Glasgow (603) based at RAF Drem.

There is an excellent book called Lions Rampent which charts 603s war history and deals really well with the first kill.

[shuttle]

I have had an email form a dealer offering the set for £83 plus £7 P+P. It's getting more tempting!! £22.50 per plane!

:) Shuttle

[Agent X20]

LA prediction - £40.. :D

[Agent Carr]

Fancy this can somebody PM with details on whos selling them?

[Dogtwenty]

Thats just damn typical of Corgi :mad: I suggest a 1 Sqn two-blader Hurricane and the miserable gits have stuck it in a poxy set of modern rubbish! Oh well, another box of trash to keep in the attic whilst yet another Hurricane graces my display cabinet! Tee Hee! :)

[The Defiant Man]

Thats just damn typical of Corgi :mad: I suggest a 1 Sqn two-blader Hurricane and the miserable gits have stuck it in a poxy set of modern rubbish! Oh well, another box of trash to keep in the attic whilst yet another Hurricane graces my display cabinet! Tee Hee! :)

Will they do a new prop tooling just for this :confused:

[Lofty]

Thats just damn typical of Corgi :mad: I suggest a 1 Sqn two-blader Hurricane and the miserable gits have stuck it in a poxy set of modern rubbish! Oh well, another box of trash to keep in the attic whilst yet another Hurricane graces my display cabinet! Tee Hee! :)
B*stids.......as bad as parcelfarce :mad:

[Typhoon-MKV]

Will they do a new prop tooling just for this :confused:


In a word - NO.....

Not for Fifty Grand anyway....

:( :(

[The Defiant Man]

Surely not that much for a new prop :confused:

[Agent X20]

Must have missed something there.. wheres all this two blader stuff coming from...??... the piccy.. back at the start of the thread shows a three bladed Hurri.. :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Typhoon-MKV]

Surely not that much for a new prop :confused:


Well that's the cost of a brand new tooling, so I suppose a modification to an existing tooling is cheaper....By how much....don't know.....

:)

[Agent X20]

Prop has nothing to do with the tooling.. tooling surely for the die cast bit.. prop be plastic..and made seperately..??

[The Defiant Man]

Must have missed something there.. wheres all this two blader stuff coming from...??... the piccy.. back at the start of the thread shows a three bladed Hurri.. :confused: :confused: :confused:

Post 42 from Mr Dogtwenty.

[Agent X20]

Saw that but post 13 from Shuttle avec piccie shows three blades, so wondered why the two blade mention :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Agent Carr]

It can not cost as much as 50k for a new tooling. If it did how can witty wings come in with several castings and sell them at £14 each?

[Agent X20]

Yes.., I think things are being pulled there..

£50K was stated some time ago.. and this figure (unless it can be clarified as being correct and which model it pertains to) is too much of a red herring to apply to a 1/144 Viscount mold versus a 1/32 Mossie one...

As before.. a prop is hardly a new mold.. Mind you be nice if they could remodel the pilot - hes looking very tired... and hes always wearing his Mae west.. even in his Garden Party Spitfire..!!

[minter]

Mind you be nice if they could remodel the pilot - hes looking very tired... and hes always wearing his Mae west.. even in his Garden Party Spitfire..!!

couldnt agree more, the d-day mossie has a decent looking pilot,then,black spit and MZ spit,back to looking like a molten blob :rolleyes:

[shuttle]

I would think it would be super easy for Corgi to produce a two-bladed fixed pitch Watts propellor. In fact, they should do one!! However, No 1 squadron did in fact also use the Mk 1 Hurricane with the more common three-bladed variable pitch propellor. I doubt if Corgi can resist the easy route and not supply the 'standard' Hurricane in No 1 markings! :mad: I expect the next 'new' Hurricane we will see will be a a four 20 mm cannon armed Hawker Hurricane Mk IIC. They started the ball rolling with the 'D-Day' Hurricane which had the fairings but not the cannon!!

:) Shuttle

[CFBC]

It can not cost as much as 50k for a new tooling. If it did how can witty wings come in with several castings and sell them at £14 each?

A/C.... Corgi could if they wanted too.... Sell at that price... Look atthe prices Stateside and then look over here and it ain't all exchange rate savings I assure you!!!!

As for this set, Hmmmm. I am interested, but will watch it and the value closely first.....

[Agent X20]

I dont think Corgi have the slightest intebntion of producing a two bladed propellor.. :D

Be a £40 special..... The USA wont want any.....

[minter]

I would think it would be super easy for Corgi to produce a two-bladed fixed pitch Watts propellor. In fact, they should do one!! However, No 1 squadron did in fact also use the Mk 1 Hurricane with the more common three-bladed variable pitch propellor. I doubt if Corgi can resist the easy route and not supply the 'standard' Hurricane in No 1 markings! :mad: I expect the next 'new' Hurricane we will see will be a a four 20 mm cannon armed Hawker Hurricane Mk IIC. They started the ball rolling with the 'D-Day' Hurricane which had the fairings but not the cannon!!

:) Shuttle

im for that, with grey/green camo

[Agent X20]

Can we have some RAF ones first.. ta..

[minter]

agreed any will do ta :)

[shuttle]

Minter,

Your SEAC Hurricane looks good. I would vote for it.

:) Shuttle

[minter]

wer'e up to 15 corgi hurris now,and there is still a couple more would like to see, one is the currrently flying sea hurri and the one i have just posted, bit worried they might not do any more,(didnt like the peplow one or racecourse very much though)

[Agent X20]

I would have thought there is much more scope with the Hurricane mold than with the current Spitfire. Strap on a few 20mm's and there must be the possibility of at least another half dozen.

[minter]

http://fleetairarmarchive.net/Aircraft/hurricane_sea_P3114_profile.jpg hows about this..........although some people wouldnt like the grey :D

[Agent X20]

Alphabet Hurricanes A-Z collect the whole set.. Alternative Marketing Idea No 729..

CFBC will need a set when he commences with the Daddy duties... :D (and a new keyboard, but hey, thats a different thread..)

[klepto4]

im for that, with grey/green camo

HEY THAT's THE ONE I WANT!!!!!. Now for the Silver Spitty with the red go faster stripes down the sides of it

[klepto4]

http://fleetairarmarchive.net/Aircraft/hurricane_sea_P3114_profile.jpg hows about this..........although some people wouldnt like the grey :D

Yeah that'll do aswell with long protruding cannons on the wings! ;)

[Craig]

I still like the idea of the SEAC Hurricane as per BBMF. Very nice tooling, and BBMF is as ever very popular, look at Spit/Hurricane/Lanc set. CAn't see as a couple more BBMF aircraft will do them any harm at all. It's always nice to have models of aircraft you've seen, and these do seem to be quite popular. As for the squadron set, I like the idea, but I'm not too keen on the aircraft that have been chosen Colour schemes not really to my taste, but nice models all the same. Be nice if they were commemoratively packaged, but it's the same old problem that that's going to be one huge box......

[Agent X20]

ah well for you Hurri lovers, looks like Peplow and Racecourse have just hit da bins...

[NeilD]

I still like the idea of the SEAC Hurricane as per BBMF. Very nice tooling, and BBMF is as ever very popular, look at Spit/Hurricane/Lanc set. CAn't see as a couple more BBMF aircraft will do them any harm at all. It's always nice to have models of aircraft you've seen, and these do seem to be quite popular. As for the squadron set, I like the idea, but I'm not too keen on the aircraft that have been chosen Colour schemes not really to my taste, but nice models all the same. Be nice if they were commemoratively packaged, but it's the same old problem that that's going to be one huge box......

Hmm that could well be a former colour scheme... ;)

[charley]

ah well for you Hurri lovers, looks like Peplow and Racecourse have just hit da bins...

In fairness took there time!!!! mmmm tempting.....

Suez Corsair is hanging on in there...Tank Buster Hurri seems to be on the Up also!!!!

[The Defiant Man]

In fairness took there time!!!! mmmm tempting.....

Suez Corsair is hanging on in there...Tank Buster Hurri seems to be on the Up also!!!!

Will be a good buy...low production run for a Hurri (2300).

[CFBC]

In fairness took there time!!!! mmmm tempting.....

Suez Corsair is hanging on in there...Tank Buster Hurri seems to be on the Up also!!!!

T/B Hurri on the up? Where? Ive seen em around the 15.00 mark...... Still down at present...... right or wrong am I? :confused:

[charley]

Not conclusive evidence... :o It just never seemed to 'bottom out' every time i see one they seem to be nearer £20.00 rather that £15.00...Its a cracking model!

[CFBC]

Quite agree Charley... It is a cracking model indeed....

Back on to this set.... Does anyone know if this set will be in one BIG box or a set of four..... I am curious to know...... :D

[charley]

Its an odd set in my opinion...lots of similar camo aeroplanes.... all of which we have seen before

Not one for me im afraid..... :(

[simonclarke1034]

Totally agree! Looks like a nice set but I wont be buying it just for the Hurri. :)

[Agent Carr]

I hope it is in one big box. Have to say I am Bias as I prefer sets. They also tend to do better in the long run.

[Rob Kocur]

Yes.., I think things are being pulled there..

£50K was stated some time ago.. and this figure (unless it can be clarified as being correct and which model it pertains to) is too much of a red herring to apply to a 1/144 Viscount mold versus a 1/32 Mossie one...

As before.. a prop is hardly a new mold.. Mind you be nice if they could remodel the pilot - hes looking very tired... and hes always wearing his Mae west.. even in his Garden Party Spitfire..!!

Greetings Agent X20

Would also be nice if they could remodel the wheels for some of the spitfires to some spoked typed ones , like on the Hurricanes.

I'm not sure if the huricane wheels where of the same size as on the spit , but in anycase , a hopefully inexpensive modification could be made which would give a better visual appearance. Maybe even the wheels from the hurricane could be utilised .

Rob Kocur.

[minter]

T/B Hurri on the up? Where? Ive seen em around the 15.00 mark...... Still down at present...... right or wrong am I? :confused:

just got mine for 12 quid..bargain nice model

[minter]

ah well for you Hurri lovers, looks like Peplow and Racecourse have just hit da bins...

about time,worst 2 of the lot...

[Agent X20]

They look better in the flesh.. apart from the fact on Peplow it looks like someones pulled the cannons off.. :mad:

[The Defiant Man]

They look better in the flesh.. apart from the fact on Peplow it looks like someones pulled the cannons off.. :mad:

Agree with that, piccies don't do them justice, particularly Peplow.

[minter]

yeah i take your point, i suppose d-day coming exsiting mold so lets do a hurri and thats what they came up with.As far as reacecourse one goes,would rather seen the grey/green camo far east type

[Agent X20]

Think they have had one or two fine examples to choose from over the last few days.. ooo wheres the Russian one..? :o

[minter]

yep i'd have one of those :)

[Agent X20]

Didnt the Iraqis have em as well....??

[charley]

£99 !!!!!! Jees :eek:

[Agent X20]

Cost of PI insurance Charles... I thought these were coming in at about £80 smackers.. with a smatterring of discount preorder that sort of thing, but a ton..!! :(

I'd wait til £40 approaches..

[CFBC]

Nah - 85.00 bucks Charley.... :D

[Dogtwenty]

I reckon this one's a sit it out and get it off the bay for forty squid! Especially as its not a two-blader - yuk! :p

[klepto4]

Think they have had one or two fine examples to choose from over the last few days.. ooo wheres the Russian one..? :o

You mean the great looking IL2 Sturmovik Forgotten Battles One?. A must have me finks! :)

[Agent X20]

I reckon this one's a sit it out and get it off the bay for forty squid! Especially as its not a two-blader - yuk! :p

See Lofty Agent .. use the force... :D

[Dogtwenty]

Bah! 1 Squadron prima donnas, give me a 19(F) Squadron cannon firing MKIIB anyday :p

[Kiwi Dave]

You would think this was a Hurricane thread! The Harrier is the only one that interests me. Now that I am talking Harriers this thread should be in the Jet section. :D

[CFBC]

Oh my.... You wanna seperate section for each issue next.... ;) :rolleyes:

Hey... If I buy if it K.D.... You can have my Harrier as all I want is the Spit!!!! :D :D :D

Nice set, reasonable price (if yer look hard enough), but........ I dunno....

Anyone knows how it's packaged? Individual boxes, one BIG set?????? :confused:

[Kiwi Dave]

Oh my.... You wanna seperate section for each issue next.... ;) :rolleyes:

Hey... If I buy if it K.D.... You can have my Harrier as all I want is the Spit!!!! :D :D :D

Nice set, reasonable price (if yer look hard enough), but........ I dunno....

Anyone knows how it's packaged? Individual boxes, one BIG set?????? :confused:

Sounds good CFBC, I'll have the Harrier, box and certificate...now what Spit were you having? :D

[CFBC]

Nice try K/D.... :mad: I will cut the cert into four, ok!!! ;) A piece of cert with each plane...... :p

[Agent X20]

Presume it would be one big set, with one big Cert... although it would make sense if it were splitable, specially when it hits da bins which it will.... :D

[goonybird]

Saw Airfix doing a VE-day anniversary set. Corgi bit slow off the mark again!!
They must have enough variants to do a set like that.

[Martin Bull]

Looks nice in the CHC Newsletter, but it's not one for me.

RRP seems very high indeed..... :confused:

[simonclarke1034]

Me neither Mr Bull! Strictly WW2 Warbirds for me! :)

[Aeronut]

Sounds like a Nice set...That RRP just ain't right :rolleyes:

Might just 'Hold out' for this one...

Don't ever recall that suggested as a box set on this Forum?

Tell you what...

Mr Corgi... My box set of 'Shuttleworth Collection' Spitfire and Sea Hurricane (minor retool permitted) VS your No.1 Sqn box set... or how about a Prototypes box set... Spit Hurri and Mossie... :rolleyes:

Am i being negative :o ...I'll get my coat.... :rolleyes:


Think you're spot on with the Shuttleworth Spit and Hurricane, I think that set would out sell just about anything, and though I'd rather Corgi have done a WWII version of the Meteor, looks as though Corgi have gone and released the best looking F8 in a boxed set :( never mind sure there'll be loads more to come, so I'll just sit back and take my pick when the time's right :)

[kevjb64]

Originally poted by Aeronut. Corgi have gone and released the best looking F8 in a boxed set .

They try not to be stupid though it would appear they cannot help it ( I wondered what had happened to the sales and marketing team from the Dome , must have found gainful employment in the diecast world ) . Anyway several conversations over the last few days have led to the info that advance sales of this set are an all time low ( currently 2-3% ).Please re-arrange the following words into a well known phrase , ' roses up smell wake to Time the and ' .

[Lofty]

Anyway several conversations over the last few days have led to the info that advance sales of this set are an all time low ( currently 2-3% ).Please re-arrange the following words into a well known phrase , ' roses up smell wake to Time the and ' .
Coming to a bargain bin near you soon!!!!!!!

[kevjb64]

According to the ' Corgi Price Collapse ' Thread not for at least 8 months and then supplied in an old used cornflakes packet !!!

[goonybird]

A Cornflake packet would be an improvement over some of the packaging we get :p

[DCRanger]

I think I might start buying cornflakes if there was a free AA in there. Big improvement on the baking powder powered submarine that was in the last packet the I bought.

[condor]

I think I might start buying cornflakes if there was a free AA in there. Big improvement on the baking powder powered submarine that was in the last packet the I bought.
I smell Agents handy work here! Submarines in cereal boxes :D It'll be 1/144 civvies next :eek:


Condor

[Agent X20]

Woo hoo...

And to Mr Direct Current Ranger... never underestimate the power of baking powder powered submarine.. ( you try saying that after a couple of beers..) :D :D :D

[DCRanger]

Sorry Agent, didn't realise your submarine was baking powder powered. :D

[Agent X20]

Yep... lot of things in the Agent household run on gas....submarine .. car.... :D

lpg rules.. if you can find it...................!!

[condor]

Is there any news on this set :confused: It was meant to have been released in April. I heard that advance sales were very very poor, but has the concept been dumped or is it like everything else at present and just delayed?


Condor

[Typhoon-MKV]

Is there any news on this set :confused: It was meant to have been released in April. I heard that advance sales were very very poor, but has the concept been dumped or is it like everything else at present and just delayed?


Condor
I think they had about 3% pre-orders on it, so it's either going to be drastically cut, or never see the light of day - that's just a guess mind, and I'll be proved wrong tomorrow when all 2000 pieces appear!!!

[CFBC]

It certainly would not suprise me if we do not see this set.

[spock1]

It certainly would not suprise me if we do not see this set.

:mad: Mr. CFBC,

Me neither !!

More and more dealers turning their backs on Corgi because its makes no economic sense whatsover !! They are supposedly sharpening up their act, but it woud seemingly be too late for many !!..... :confused: Time will tell !!.... :rolleyes:

[Agent X20]

Surely it all depends whether Mr Wong has pushed the tit and produced X '000 of them... they are either done or not.. if not then you might never see them.. dont think it financially viable to stop half way or only produce a few....

My view.. get more money separately for them... strange subject...(for the masses.)..they might have been better off doing a 617 set...:D

[CFBC]

Just had news come through and was speaking to a retailer today to say that this set is due very shortly and that Corgi have also lowered the SRP too.

May be worth checking with your sources of supply. :D

[Agent X20]

and that Corgi have also lowered the SRP too.
£49.95 if they want to move them... bet they end up about £20..

[shuttle]

Agent,

I don't agree. 4 very popular RAF planes and Ithink this one will be worth the money. My supplier has already alerted me to the price reduction and each model now works out at £20 each.

:) Shuttle

[The Defiant Man]

.....and I reckon somewhere in between the two of you. :p

2,000 of 'em is twice as many as there should be. £20 per model doesn't sound a lot but we are talking Harrier & Hunter (bin types) as two of them. Reckon £40-£45 is when I will buy.

[CFBC]

Eighty - ninety quid ain't a bad price for the set (4 x planes), but I agree with D/F Man a little here.... I would like the Hurricane and perhaps :rolleyes: the Meteor, but ain't bothered about the Harrier or Hunter.... :( :rolleyes: :(

[The Defiant Man]

I agree with D/F Man a little here....(
Wonders will never cease.... :p :D :D

[Agent X20]

..Reckon £40-£45 is when I will buy.
Daft IFA person... :D :D :D . :confused: I stated £49.95.....!!!!

Trouble is the hound comes in at eighty... and interest plummets.... other things come on the radar and then you will end up with them at £20 in the bin.. ( if there is 2000 and Corgi deposit as they have done with so many others...) My moneys on that Mr Shuttle.. if yer right... and they stay at £80.. I'll buy you a pint.... ( of beer) If you can get it for thirty or less.. you can buy me a pint... you've just saved £50...... :D :D :D

Its not a downer on Corgi.... its we have seen it time and time again..... :cool:

It's marketing , but not as the hound knows it Jim..!!

[goonybird]

This set is gonna neeed a bl@@dy big white box :D
Another large box item so will hit the bins at about £30. circa £7.50 a plane sounds about right.

[Agent X20]

Okay then.. £30 .. but it aint £80...!! :D

[spock1]

:) The set has been released this week !! Seems the grapevine not working too well !!............ ;)

[strix1998]

Not my choice of mix but obviously cobbled from adaptable available moulds.
at £45 would have one for the loft

[CFBC]

:) The set has been released this week !! Seems the grapevine not working too well !!............ ;)

I did say "very shortly" Spock1.... Come-on.... :D

[simonclarke1034]

There's a set just been placed on E-bay!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=56313&item=6962446752&rd=1

Not for me but IM sure there's someone on the forum that's after a set! :)

[Marky_ncl]

There's a set just been placed on E-bay!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=56313&item=6962446752&rd=1

Not for me but IM sure there's someone on the forum that's after a set! :)

I wouldn't rush out and pay £95 for one!!! They are cheaper than that including postage in some places!!!

Mark.

[spock1]

I did say "very shortly" Spock1.... Come-on.... :D

:D CFBC,

You did, but how long is a piece of string ??........... ;) :D

[CFBC]

I know Spock.... I did know that most folk was told next week.... :rolleyes:

[plumstix]

how long is a piece of string ??........... ;) :D

Twice the length from the middle, oh pointy eared one. :D

[CFBC]

Twice the length from the middle, oh pointy eared one. :D

Is that logical Plummy? :D

[DCRanger]

Is that logical Plummy? :D
It's as logical as the middle being half way between the two ends :D

[plumstix]

Exactly.

[CFBC]

It's as logical as the middle being half way between the two ends :D

Oh my... :confused: It has been a looonngggg day.... :(

[spock1]

Oh my... :confused: It has been a looonngggg day.... :(

:D It certainly has but apparently just as long as any other..... :rolleyes: :)

Now back to the string..........hmmmmmm.......... ;)

Or something slightly easier ie.. Which came first, the chicken or the egg ??..... :confused: :rolleyes: :D

[CFBC]

What about - Half empty or half full Spock1?

Anyway, we digress..... :D

The No.1 Set? anybody seen it? Is it one BIG box or four smaller boxes? :rolleyes:

[Craig]

Sorry to drag this slightly back on topic, but has anyone seen/got one of these? they any good?

[charley]

This set amazes me........what makes it unique/special, Four schemes/toolings which weve seen on numerous occasions :confused: its not as if it is particularly good value? :(

[spock1]

What about - Half empty or half full Spock1?

Anyway, we digress..... :D

The No.1 Set? anybody seen it? Is it one BIG box or four smaller boxes? :rolleyes:

:) CFBC,

One big box, slightly larger than a 1/72 Lanc./Libbie one ..... ;)

[Typhoon-MKV]

This set amazes me........what makes it unique/special, Four schemes/toolings which weve seen on numerous occasions :confused: its not as if it is particularly good value? :(

Probably why pre-orders have been so poor.

Now a four model set a year ago under the heading "D-Day Commemoration" limited to 1944 with say a Spit, Hurricane, Mosquito and <cough> Typhoon might have had a few more pre-orders, but old ground being covered - let's not go there.... :eek: :eek:

[CFBC]

Probably why pre-orders have been so poor.

Now a four model set a year ago under the heading "D-Day Commemoration" limited to 1944 with say a Spit, Hurricane, Mosquito and <cough> Typhoon might have had a few more pre-orders, but old ground being covered - let's not go there.... :eek: :eek:

Dream, dream, dream..... Typhie.. ;)

Thanks Spock1... Bl&&dy BIG box then.... Is it artworked-up or plain or, well...... Prey tell.... :D

[spock1]

CFBC,

Its plain blue, no artwork, so will not be winning any design awards for packaging.......... ;) :)

[minter]

I wouldn't rush out and pay £95 for one!!! They are cheaper than that including postage in some places!!!

Mark.

i have seen them cheaper than this

[kevjb64]

i have seen them cheaper than this

They have been available @ £75-£85 since the day they were announced and with the recent reduction in SRP probably cheaper than that now . :rolleyes:

Box is a bit boring ( still so are another cammo hunter / harrier ) so it will be plain blue to plain white in 8 months then .

[maple 01]

All I want is the Meteor :(

[Craig]

I know what you mean on this guys, and I sympathise with those of you who just want one out of the set. I do like the idea of the sets though, although perhaps the best thing would be to have produced them as a set but as individual items in the form of a collection, even possibly at discount price for the 4? then you could have the best of both worlds? Just a thought.....

[CFBC]

Anyone just want the Hunter/Harrier? :)

[Rusty]

I know what you mean on this guys, and I sympathise with those of you who just want one out of the set. I do like the idea of the sets though, although perhaps the best thing would be to have produced them as a set but as individual items in the form of a collection, even possibly at discount price for the 4? then you could have the best of both worlds? Just a thought.....

Good idea. That's what Herpa did for a special release of Munich Airport aircraft last year - three seperate boxes (Ju52, DC-3, L-1049), or all three in a big box.

[kevjb64]

All I want is the Meteor :(

One available on the bay , in fact all 4 individually from a dealer . Come from water damaged boxes apparently .

[Agent X20]

Torpedoes los..!!!

(Another way of bringing cheap stuff onto the market.. :mad: . I wouldnt want to be Corgi's insurer.. thats more th>n Lucky..)

[kevjb64]

Torpedoes los..!!!

(Another way of bringing cheap stuff onto the market.. :mad: . I wouldnt want to be Corgi's insurer.. thats more th>n Lucky..)

Maybe a bright spark at the hound had the idea of drilling a few holes in the warehouse roof so as to dampen the place a little , to prevent any future fires !! :rolleyes: :D :D

Course @ £20 a model thats more expensive than the set in a good box ! ;)

[Agent X20]

Its another way of dumping without having to admit you are .. trouble is you can only use so many excuses..

Next one will be..... shop soiled..?

[minter]

or fingered

[spock1]

Maybe a bright spark at the hound had the idea of drilling a few holes in the warehouse roof so as to dampen the place a little , to prevent any future fires !! :rolleyes: :D :D

:D Mr. Kev,

They are not that clever, more likely left them out in the rain whilst figuring out where to put them !!........ :cool: ;)

[Agent X20]

.. what like as in stockpiling..

.. wheres me cheapo Wellies.... come on Corgi... twenty a piece....

... ah well I can sit it out...... down to periscope level..... :D :D :D

[Rusty]

.. what like as in stockpiling..

.. wheres me cheapo Wellies.... come on Corgi... twenty a piece....

... ah well I can sit it out...... down to periscope level..... :D :D :D

Yep that's what I'm waiting for too. You have taught us well master... http://www.virtualnorwood.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif

[Agent X20]

Pair of Wellies with a bit of string... £40...!!

[Rusty]

Pair of Wellies with a bit of string... £40...!!

Shall I buy??? Just say the word!!! :cool:

[Agent X20]

Well Mr Oxide they must all be sitting somewhere..... gathering dust and losing the will to live.. longer they keep em stashed away, the less they will get for them..IMHO..(specially as by that time we will no doubt have about half a dozen to choose our particular favourite from.. :D :D )

[minter]

gonna have to dump with what another 60 odd coming ?

[Red Leader]

Re: Wellies a strange lack of em about I've noticed.
But back onto box set thread. I saw em goin at NEC for £75. I thought that was still too expensive for it!!

[Rusty]

Re: Wellies a strange lack of em about I've noticed.
But back onto box set thread. I saw em goin at NEC for £75. I thought that was still too expensive for it!!

Well, there's still hope for a cheaper price because your average buyer (let alone you guys) isn't gonna spend that money when it can buy at least six other half-decent corgi models!!

[Marky_ncl]

My No.1 Sqn sets arrived yesturday so I thought I would take some pics of the models for you..

I know the pics are not brilliant but they give a better idea of what the models are like than the origional photo released by Corgi.

Best Wishes,

Mark.

All pictures uploaded. :)

[Typhoon-MKV]

Hurricane looks nice.

[CFBC]

Hmm. All pictures uploaded. Does not look a bad set, but what a box!! :rolleyes:

[Marky_ncl]

Hmm. All pictures uploaded. Does not look a bad set, but what a box!! :rolleyes:

Thank You!!!!

Mark.

[condor]

Hmm. All pictures uploaded. Does not look a bad set, but what a box!! :rolleyes:

You canna whack a big box misses :D


Is it me or do the models look "lost" in that large box! I'm sure a smaller box would have done. Bet it'll be a bu99er to try and hide from the misses :( Nice pictures though Marky - thanks. ;)



Condor

[Dogtwenty]

Hmmmmm. Anyone want to swap their 1 Sqn Hurricane for an MZ Spit and Banf Mossie??????? All I ever wanted was the flaming Hurricane! :rolleyes:

[simonclarke1034]

Nice picture's Mark! :)

[Rusty]

My No.1 Sqn sets arrived yesturday so I thought I would take some pics of the models for you..

I know the pics are not brilliant but they give a better idea of what the models are like than the origional photo released by Corgi.

Best Wishes,

Mark.

All pictures uploaded. :)

Nice pics - I like the meteor and the hurri!

[shuttle]

Nice pictures Mark, looking forward to my set when I get back from holiday!

:) Shuttle

[Red Leader]

Could have done with some interesting artwork on cover of box. Pretty dull. Looks like another catalogue front!!!

[DCRanger]

This Ebayer is selling the individual models from a "water damaged" box. 13 hours to go and the Hurricane is at £56 unboxed!!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6962897687&fromMakeTrack=true

The Hunter and Harrier are also listed but I can't see the Meat Box?

[CFBC]

Crazy... Would pay em to buy the whole set, remove the Hurricane and sell the remaining. I canna see em losing that much..... Well, they have nearly bought a whole set with just the Hurricane alone...... :rolleyes:

Some people have no sense.... :D

[CFBC]

Could have done with some interesting artwork on cover of box. Pretty dull. Looks like another catalogue front!!!

I ageree, bland, dull - No squadron badge or insignia.... No thought gone into it at all.... Heaven help me if I ever get to a stage where I can get a job at Corgi..... :D

[Rusty]

This Ebayer is selling the individual models from a "water damaged" box. 13 hours to go and the Hurricane is at £56 unboxed!!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6962897687&fromMakeTrack=true

The Hunter and Harrier are also listed but I can't see the Meat Box?

£93.50 for the three, no bids on the Harrier yet. This guy is going to be laughing all the way to the bank!!! I can't believe that he paid much for the water damaged sets - a couple second chance ofers when these auctions finish and I'll bet there's more profit there than anything we've seen recently (except for the IXO Typhoon of course...)!

[DCRanger]

Think I might have a Zero to sell from a water damaged Guadalcannal Set :D

[Red Leader]

Assuming of course that the "Water damage" story is TRUE??!!!!!

[Agent X20]

I reckon the hound cocked a leg... :rolleyes:

[DCRanger]

Assuming of course that the "Water damage" story is TRUE??!!!!!
It will be - I'm just filling the bath now :D

[Rusty]

It will be - I'm just filling the bath now :D

May as well - anything that sets them apart seems to mean they will command a premium. Personally, my set was smoke damaged when the Hindenburg went down (they were stored in the hanger see). http://www.savingadvice.com/forums/images/smilies/grins-misc/music-smiley-012.gif "Oh... the humanity!"

[DCRanger]

Final score was

Meteor £21.50
Hunter £21
Hurri £52
Harrier £21.99
total £116.99

[Agent X20]

I've got a French York that I think I will break up and sell in bits..!! :D

[CFBC]

Wow.... I have a waterlogged set.... Worth more? :confused:

Mrs CFBC caught me trying to water damage the outside of the box!!! Dropped the lot..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D

Offers circa 150 quid.... :cool:

Will also include the squadron history (printed from the internet of course), paper cut out insignia and more!!!! :)

[Rusty]

I could provide a set which would include a pail of water so that the new owner could customise the waterlogging themselves. http://www.savingadvice.com/forums/images/smilies/cheeky/cheeky-smiley-004.gif

[Agent X20]

Mrs CFBC caught me trying to water damage the outside of the box!!! Dropped the lot..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D
Immitating the hound....!! :rolleyes: You'll get yourself arrested... :eek:

Rusty.. stupid idea... postage will be over the top... supply the pail.. plus instructions... Jack and Jill...... :D :D :D

[minter]

how about weeing on one or is that for the "specialized" market http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/otn/realhappy/yllol.gif

[Agent X20]

I was inferring that in my post.. thats why he dropped the box..!!!

mmm.. Fetish Diecasts..... like it...

[Red Leader]

The big question is.............Who is DAFT enough to pay such ridiculous wonga for those seperates?????
Also who is DAFT enough to swallow that water story?????
Maybe they should ave been sold as "Battle Scarred" boxes????!!!!!!!!

[CFBC]

I dunno, but look at the bidding and it gives you the answers.... :rolleyes:

[kevjb64]

Must have been a lot of water as I am sure he hit all the other bidders with 2nd chances , specially on the Hurri but there are some more ' damaged ' one's on the bay from the same guy .

[Red Leader]

The thing thats sad about this set is actually very obvious!!
What incentive is there (aprt from to the fanatical collector) to part with best part of a ton for 4 planes that are in the same old colour schemes. I mean the harrier, hunter and Hurricane all look like 100 others . Not exactly any different liveries in there!!
A xlassic marketing ploy that record labels pull when releasing a best of is to include one or two never before heard tracks just to emtice the die hards. Corgi misseed an opportunity here!!!

[Rusty]

The thing thats sad about this set is actually very obvious!!
What incentive is there (aprt from to the fanatical collector) to part with best part of a ton for 4 planes that are in the same old colour schemes. I mean the harrier, hunter and Hurricane all look like 100 others . Not exactly any different liveries in there!!
A xlassic marketing ploy that record labels pull when releasing a best of is to include one or two never before heard tracks just to emtice the die hards. Corgi misseed an opportunity here!!!

On that subject (kind of) - I wonder if Corgi are smart enough to do any of the farewell liveries (harriers etc.). Of course I already know the answer to that, but one can dream - they'd definitely sell. :(

[Red Leader]

Jaguar springs to mind!!!

[datacroft]

Must have been a lot of water as I am sure he hit all the other bidders with 2nd chances , specially on the Hurri but there are some more ' damaged ' one's on the bay from the same guy .
Another interesting snippet (about the seller that is).
If you surf to his/her web site, m**els21.co.uk, the WEB page declares that they have ceased trading.
Now, if they have ceased trading how on earth are they obtaining the product?
Was it raining when it fell off the back of the lorry?:confused: :eek: :rolleyes:

[Red Leader]

All but the mose naieve would have smelt a rat with that scam!!!

[G-force]

mose naieve

Those dang keyboards are everywhere! :p

[Dogtwenty]

:eek: Tally-Ho! Gosh chaps, did'nt think I'd prang that Hurricane but I got the blighter! Water damged box my waggy tail, still, I've got my Hurricane and its "ya boo sucks to you fritzy" If you fellas take a closer look at the Hurricane you will notice that, it has, indeed, the squadron markings on its lower nose! It will, I can assure you, be pride of place next to £120 worth of Zumbach !! :rolleyes:

[Agent X20]

On that subject (kind of) - I wonder if Corgi are smart enough to do any of the farewell liveries ( What Corgi going under... say no more... thats it Scoop Snafu is fired....... :D :D :D

[Agent X20]

To K920.....

Saw the No1 Sqdn set today.. I think they are actually very very nice... I appreciate the requirement for a Hurri, but surely.. ( mind if I call you Shirley) they will be £40 for the whole lot soon.... :D :D :D

all said in the best possible taste...

[Marky_ncl]

To K920.....

Saw the No1 Sqdn set today.. I think they are actually very very nice... I appreciate the requirement for a Hurri, but surely.. ( mind if I call you Shirley) they will be £40 for the whole lot soon.... :D :D :D

all said in the best possible taste...

You may be waiting longer than you think Agent!!!!

Mark.
:)

[Agent X20]

They all water damaged then or have you bought the lot..???

How many are there......??

:D :D :D

[Dogtwenty]

Yes, especially if Mrs CFBC confiscates all the bath and sink plugs - Tee Hee! :D :D

[Marky_ncl]

They all water damaged then or have you bought the lot..???

How many are there......??

:D :D :D

I haven't bought any water damaged ones!! Its not my items on e-bay if thats what you mean!!

I just think that you will be waiting a while before this is reduced to your £40 price that you mentioned. I haven't seen much reduced latley so I think that the new rules for reductions that were talked about have been put in place.

Otherwise I think that there would be a few wellingtons on E-Bay by now!!

Mark. :)

[NeilD]

ARD reckoned they'd sold a few sets.. with the reduced RRP and 25% preorder discount that makes it £75 a set??
Neil

[Marky_ncl]

ARD reckoned they'd sold a few sets.. with the reduced RRP and 25% preorder discount that makes it £75 a set??
Neil

You can get them cheaper than that and without any clubs to join!!! ;)

Mark.

[Agent X20]

The answer lies in my original question which I hoped someone would answer.. how many are there..???

[Marky_ncl]

The answer lies in my original question which I hoped someone would answer.. how many are there..???

Sorry... Forgot that bit mate..

2000 sets...

Mark.

[Agent X20]

Sorry Mr Mark, but if there are 2000 of them.. a £100 item then we are going to see them at around £40... unless Corgi hold out for more.. thing is they are not going to be able to hold out on everything.. their warehouses will be bursting at the seams....

Canadian Lancaster 2000 of .. one of the very best models Corgi ever did... finally.. £20 at the Toyfairs....

Libbies... £99.. even they well the SEAC one was £xx in Modelzone today...

The only chance for this set is to get em out to the airshows or as we have seen split em...

Pity cos it is a very nice set..... just that whoever is responsible for marketing them should extract a digit..... :D :D :D

[Dogtwenty]

I think, but i'm not certain, that their are 500 - I'm sure I read it somewhere. Anyone else any gen perchance? :)

[Agent X20]

Mark has come back with 2000 Mr K920.... :D

[kevjb64]

I think, but i'm not certain, that their are 500 - I'm sure I read it somewhere. Anyone else any gen perchance? :)

Def. 2000 , so perhaps the 500 figure is the water-damaged ones !!! :rolleyes:

[Dogtwenty]

Oh well, perhaps I should have waited, but I'm not keen on stashing unwanted models, I've got He111's, ME109's and a ****** Lancaster upstairs! :rolleyes:

[Agent X20]

2000 is 1500 more than the number of collectors out there IMHO....

[Marky_ncl]

Mark has come back with 2000 Mr K920.... :D

The certificate in the box I checked for you deffinatley states 2000.

Mark :)

[Agent X20]

deffinatley
Mark :)Another victim of the CFBC keyboarad scam... :D

If we is going to wait Mr M..... what they gonna do with them all......??

.. and all the Mossies Wellys 109's etc etc..... ( not trying to win this argument.. was it the full half hour..?? - actually interested as to how they think they will pull through this and retain their customer base) :)

[jetfan]

Is the set readily available? According to Corgi USA, its not available in the States.

[CFBC]

Yes Jetfan, in the UK it is readily available.... :)

[kevjb64]

Is the set readily available? According to Corgi USA, its not available in the States.

Keep your eyes on the shipping reports , some may wash ashore stateside , lot of water damaged sets available in UK . :rolleyes:

[Typhoon-MKV]

It's a shame those "water-damaged" boxes had not been stored in the same warehouse as the Aussie Mossie :D :D :D

History could have been so different :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

And a lot cheaper!!!!!

[spock1]

:mad: Never before have I seen so much negativity over an item that really should rank as the potential bargain of the year. The No.1 Squadron set features four different well finished popular Royal Air Force models that individually would command a combined srp of just short of £130 !! Corgi to their credit, for a change, have released this set with an srp of £99.99 and yet so many are poo pooing it at circa £80.......... :(

Whilst it is not to everyones taste may I respectfully suggest that before tearing it to shreads certain amongst you at least take the time to have a proper look at one of the sets or better still buy one!!........ :rolleyes:

I suspect that there are many doubters amongst us who have not even seen the set and to those I would simply say get your facts straight before spouting off about something you really know nothing about !!........... ;)

PS - As to water damaged stock why not simply say heres the opportunity to buy perhaps the one model you like as a separate item ??..... ;) :confused:

PPS - If they are water damaged then request a complimentary can of WD40 !!............Just in case......... ;) :D

[Agent X20]

Oi p*inty eared chappie.. I stated that it was very very nice.. but ...Its still gonna be £40 though.... 2000 divided by 500 collectors... well even 250 at that size/money... they is gonna be hanging unless Corgi store them... If it isnt then I will gladly come on and apologise.. Tell yer what .. will happily let you sell me one at £40*.. ( before they go to £30..!! :D :D :D )
Yours

M. Finrot...

* this offer expires 24hrs after posting...

[G-force]

I personally would love the set, but I have a Harrier, I have a Hunter, a 1/32 Hurricane will do me nicely thank you kindly. Which only leaves the Meteor.........I like this one,would prefer a full camo......so can't really justify the outlay.

But..........I really will buy it if it does "hover" around the aforementioned amount!

[spock1]

before they go to £30..!! :D :D :D
Yours

M. Finrot...

* this offer expires 24hrs after posting...

:D Agent,

Think you will find a lot more water damaged boxes/split sets before they go at £7.50 each!! ;) Be worth grtting some boxes made to sell them separately before that happens imho !!...... :p :D

[Dogtwenty]

:mad: Never before have I seen so much negativity over an item that really should rank as the potential bargain of the year. The No.1 Squadron set features four different well finished popular Royal Air Force models that individually would command a combined srp of just short of £130 !! Corgi to their credit, for a change, have released this set with an srp of £99.99 and yet so many are poo pooing it at circa £80.......... :(

Whilst it is not to everyones taste may I respectfully suggest that before tearing it to shreads certain amongst you at least take the time to have a proper look at one of the sets or better still buy one!!........ :rolleyes:

I suspect that there are many doubters amongst us who have not even seen the set and to those I would simply say get your facts straight before spouting off about something you really know nothing about !!........... ;)

PS - As to water damaged stock why not simply say heres the opportunity to buy perhaps the one model you like as a separate item ??..... ;) :confused:

PPS - If they are water damaged then request a complimentary can of WD40 !!............Just in case......... ;) :D

Thank God for Spock and logic! I'm afraid, old chap, that unless they have something to whine about they are not happy! Maybe a nice MKIX Spitfire might do the trick, but I have my doubts. I am very pleased to get hold of the Hurricane from the set, mainly, as I keep saying, because I love Hurricanes, and £50 for one is not that bad! :D

[Agent X20]

Not whining..K920... it will happen... (unless they flog all the Hurricanes off, leaving the rest for peanuts..)... they are nice models though.....

[shuttle]

I can't wait to get back and see this set. I think it is a bargain as well and agree with Spock. I would love to hear a bit more about the background to this one though? Who proposed it a a set?

:D Shuttle

[CFBC]

I had chance to look at the boxset yesterday and have to agree that "ok" three of the models I would not collect. but the forth I would.. The one thing that really lets the set down is the box, artwork (what artwork), thought and the certificate that is supplied with it.

The box itself is very very flimsey, espcially the rear of the box and the lid. Why? Corgi were producing better boxes last year and early this and it gives me shudders like the 49505 B.O.B Set where all you have to do is move it to get it creased!! That is a great shame....

The certificate... On a box set like this a lovely looking certificate would have been excekkent to display with the models, but I am afraid it is a "plane Jane" style certificate.... :(

I am not being negative here members with regards this set as I am thinking of acquiring it, but a little more thought and imaginative with regards the box and certificate would have made this set a whole lot better....

You are right with regards the pieces inside the box and the RRP it retails for at present.

:)

P.S - Did Corgi do this with No.1 Squadron approval? Input? etc? Anybody know?? :cool:

[Red Leader]

The flimsy box thing is an interesting point!!
What I can't understand is why Corgi started off with the sturdy "Pizza box " style top loading lids with the early stuff in 1998 catalogue, but then moved to the flimsy boxes with the flaps?? Incredibly they took until 2004 cat to switch back!!

[goonybird]

Thank God for Spock and logic! I'm afraid, old chap, that unless they have something to whine about they are not happy! Maybe a nice MKIX Spitfire might do the trick, but I have my doubts. I am very pleased to get hold of the Hurricane from the set, mainly, as I keep saying, because I love Hurricanes, and £50 for one is not that bad! :D

Make more economic sense to buy a complete set at £80. take out the one you want, eg hurricane. and sell of the other three models at whatever they go for. Anything over a tenner each and your evens. Might even sell the three for the initial outlay. result cheap hurricane. ;) Then sell the box! :D

[avro730]

Hello All. I was informed about this forum by a customer. It would seem that you are mystifyed by my actions regarding splitting up the 1sqn sets. Well, Firstly I used to trade on the net ebay and direct, but stopped at the end of last year as I also have dealings with the real thing (1:1 scale biz jets) which takes up my time now. However I had ordered several items when the corgi show came round in (I think) october (although the 1 Sqn sets wern't on the show then so I must have ordered them a bit later). My wholesaler duly got them and I took them as I had ordered them and didnt want to upset him .

The water damage element came because I took them home, unloaded the car and went out again having left them outside the back of my garage thinking all would be well. Unfortunatly when I got back I forgot to put them away and it hissed down all night. I have previously split sets up due to damaged boxes (the PR Mossie and Spit) so I thought that it would be the thing to do. The cost (trade) to me was about £56 plus vat making a retail price around £99.00 so I thought if sold seperatly around the £20 mark £80 would clear my bit and a little profit. As it happened I thought the meteors would be the most popular but the Hurricane really surprised me, the other three sold for around the £22 mark plus postage of £2.85.

So, of the 4 sets I had, one set I kept (I collect as well) all the hurricanes have gone ( yes I used second chance offer all around £50). one "set" of the jets has gone, the second "set" is on ebay now and will be followed by the third in due course and that will be that. The other stuff I have on are kits some personal some ex stock. So there you have it.

On another note, I too am at a loss as to why corgi produce what they do. I was pleased to see the Meteor, espcially as the way its been made means many other marks can be produced. I have asked the sales team for a Valiant but the usualy reply is " cant do many schemes for that", really how many schemes can you do for a Nimrod then? Let alone putting the Valiant in a set with the other V-Bombers.

And lastly, from a trade point of view I hope corgi do put an end to dumping after 6 or 12 months (even less in some cases) as a trader I was being left with full priced stock and you could buy it from Modelzone retail for less than I paid trade. One of the reasons I got out of the busniess.

PS whats all that IXO Tyhoon busniess about then , £63 (ebay) for a £19.99 model!!

[CFBC]

Make more economic sense to buy a complete set at £80. take out the one you want, eg hurricane. and sell of the other three models at whatever they go for. Anything over a tenner each and your evens. Might even sell the three for the initial outlay. result cheap hurricane. ;) Then sell the box! :D

Mr Avro... Nice to have you onboard and welcome.... I think Mr G/B has said it all just prior to be honest, but nice to get your views too. Welcome and enjoy the Forum.....

I believe the Typhoon has already been mentioned in past threads if you care to dig a little deeper. :) With regards the "V's".... Well, we are all with you there.... :D

Feel free to join in. :)

[Servalan]

:) Avro,
Welcome on board and thank you for an honest posting !! To all Forum members you are seeing here a true reflection of th current state of play !! Diisenfranchised deaers/sellers = LACK OF CHOICE .......... :eek:

Let certain ones and the manufacturer have their way and you will either end up paying full SRP or getting nothing at all!! ........... :mad: :confused: :eek:

[goonybird]

:) Avro,
Welcome on board and thank you for an honest posting !! To all Forum members you are seeing here a true reflection of th current state of play !! Diisenfranchised deaers/sellers = LACK OF CHOICE .......... :eek:

Let certain ones and the manufacturer have their way and you will either end up paying full SRP or getting nothing at all!! ........... :mad: :confused: :eek:

First, full SRP (RRP?) overly inflated on a majority of items.
Second, won't want to buy at SRP so will get nothing at all.
Third, end result is go elsewhere. four or five years ago there wasn't much alternative. Now things different, more internet trading (USA), Dragon, Witty,Ixo, etc. :confused:

[The Defiant Man]

First, full SRP (RRP?) overly inflated on a majority of items.
Second, won't want to buy at SRP so will get nothing at all.
Third, end result is go elsewhere. four or five years ago there wasn't much alternative. Now things different, more internet trading (USA), Dragon, Witty,Ixo, etc. :confused:
Spot on Mr G/B.......for the smaller stuff I can't understand why folks pre-order and pay full (or near full) UK RRP when you can get it cheaper via the US (inc P&P) & usually a few weeks before they arrive in the UK. The Corgi UK RRP on the smaller stuff is a joke, decent (but not as good) competitors around 50% of Corgi RRP & generally equally good Dragons at around 70%. As for the bigger stuff/heavies......not one has yet maintained its RRP value (excepting that very limited Lanc) & the same goes for the "medium" sized stuff, Yellow Sea King excepted (for some reason).

[CFBC]

Nice posting guys, but lets keep this thread on the No.1 Squadron Set and please do not detract on to pricing, etc... Thats for another thread. :)

[rodney]

hello gents,as i've only been collecting for the last 18 months and i understand the grips with corgi and don't blame anyone having the **** with them.having said that i think it about time we the collector started to back our retailers,not everyone has access to dumping or trade prices.so to get this set a low price for some of us is unlikely or a long way off.most of us are collectors not dealers so some support to retailers i feel would not be a bad idea.chc and aviation retail direct offer some very good pre order discounts.ARD has been told by corgi that these sets will not go cheap at a later date or he will refund him the difference.this has made me buy a set after sitting on the fence and listing to you lot on the forum.so £99.99 - 25 % is a good deal.if corgi stick to their word[ cutting numbers and white boxes] then this should keep everybody happy.it seems everybody is trying to get things right for the future, so lets do the same

[Agent X20]

Hi Rodney.... and welcome to the Forum.. thats not short for Rodney the Retailer is it..? :D :D :D .. (all in the best possible taste and no offence meant....)

Well if they are going to stay at £75.00, then thats it, they will remain the property of Corgi... as Mr G/B states.. its the customer with the cash....

As to supporting retailers.. yep no problem there.. but where are they..??. think its Corgi that should be lending the support not the punter.. Charging what they charge and making those sort of rules.. yep if yer product is a strong brand, you can do it.. (Cartier Rolex BMW...) not a toy manufacturer... :D IMHO..... :D

be interesting to see how it pans out.........

Would have thought ARD would have been sale or return.... in fact any retailer should be sale or return...

[Dogtwenty]

I say, wasn't that jolly nice of Avro730 to talk to you all about water damage and my new Hurricane, eh wot! Am still waiting for it, and I'm a tad worried, just in case the water damage has turned it into a Sea Hurricane, still, a hook job would be rather nice eh!!!!
All this twaddle about the boxes amuses me no end. What are you chappies putting in your display cabinet at the end of the day, the box or the kites?
As long as the box tells you what it is and protects it, all is well, its what is inside that counts, dont you agree? :)

[kevjb64]

As long as the box tells you what it is and protects it, all is well, its what is inside that counts, dont you agree? :)

Tis a fair point , which is why for some Corgi's white box policy will not matter , just means having the patience to wait an extra 8 months for your display model ( and I suppose the risk there may not be any left ) .

[Dogtwenty]

I say, thats rather fatalistic old boy. Perhaps its your proximity to RAF 'suicide city' at Marham, its rubbed off on you. Off you jolly, to the mess for a few jars, and you'll feel right as reign, but if not, just leave that rope at MT, theres a good chap :o

[DCRanger]

I saw this set in the metal today and have to say it is a very nice set. The photos that I have seen just not do it justice and compared to other releases is probably pretty good value.

Thats not to say that it won't be seen cheaper in the future but I would guess that it might not be as low as some have predicted. Possibly the same price as the Hurricane sold on it's own :rolleyes:

[The Defiant Man]

Agree with DC...saw this today at Harrogate, very nice. Will wait a little longer though.

[rodney]

if the set goes for around £50 later, [as everybody is saying'it's very nice']unless you to to a toy fair,the postage will be up to a tenner. At the end of the day you'll be saving about tenner.i would support my retailer and have a set now. ARD we have the difference in prices refunded not sale or return

[avro730]

Dogtwenty, do not worry, its in the post (mind you thats enough to worry about) you should have it by the time I write this. Let me know if not. Avro730.

[philglt]

Perhaps the most important issue here is not why the set is split, but whether it can be safely packaged for posting. We often complain about the Corgi packaging, but in general it does a good job of keeping the contents safe in transit.

[The Defiant Man]

Perhaps the most important issue here is not why the set is split, but whether it can be safely packaged for posting. We often complain about the Corgi packaging, but in general it does a good job of keeping the contents safe in transit.
Apparently the box for this set is rather flimsy compared to their other big boxes.....

[CFBC]

Quite agree guys.. I am not sure what and why Corgi have done this set again in flimsey carboard but they have (reminds me of the 49505 set) in which the back of the box creases if you even sneeze close to it.... :D

I saw one of these last week and tried a Rolf Harris number with the inlay.... Hmm. The retailer was not best pleased.... Sorry :o

[Agent X20]

:D and tried a Rolf Harris number with the inlay.... :o What as in Stairway to heaven... wow... CFBC is like the new crazy frog....!!





Gribbit.......

[shuttle]

Got my set today. Very nice. I really like the drop tanks on the Meteor and the Hurricane is really excellent. I have always rated the Corgi Harrier GR3 and this is a nice addition. Very good Hunter as well. £80 all in so £20 per model which is (IMHO) good value. I don't have any issues with the box either. Corgi could have put a booklet in with more No 1 squadron information so if they decide to model another RAF squadron then this would be a nice addition?

:) Shuttle

[shuttle]

Here is a picture of the two Corgi Meteors. I really like the one with the set and am now looking forward to the next few releases. I think Corgi have done a nice job with the Meteor. The 'tug' version will really look nice next to the Mossie....!

:) Shuttle

[Agent X20]

Grazing ...

Are the intakes supposed to be wider on the 1 sqn one...??

.. and I defy you to break the aerial... :D

[spock1]

Grazing ...

.. and I defy you to break the aerial... :D

:confused: Agent,

Should that be NOT to break the aerial ??......... :confused:

We are talking models for the Adult collector here, not Kindergarten playthings ..... :rolleyes: ;)

:D PS - Perhaps someone should tell the Hound, save a lot of grief !!..... :rolleyes: :D

[The Defiant Man]

Are the intakes supposed to be wider on the 1 sqn one...??

Was thinking the same thing.........camera angle?

Have to say I prefer the 1sqn over the 500 sqn.......although both nice. Hope we get a camo one soon that is day-glo free.

[Abbevilleslayer]

I haven't been on the site for some time and I'm wondering what the odds are that someone might be able to get just the Hurri from this set, just because I want to keep my collection only WWII aircraft?? Thanks! :D

[maple 01]

Yes, the intakes on later F-8s got bigger giving a greater airflow to the Dewent 8s - had to look that up, forgot that in the Matchbox NF11/12/13/14 you got all intake versions :o

[CFBC]

I haven't been on the site for some time and I'm wondering what the odds are that someone might be able to get just the Hurri from this set, just because I want to keep my collection only WWII aircraft?? Thanks! :D

Welcome to the club Abbe :D :cool:

[Agent X20]

Thanks Maple 1..... still looks wrong/silly though.. :D

The aerial would appear to be stainless steel.... :D

[minter]

i cant take to these, not keen on the joint line thingys,looks like the nose might snap off, will wait for a camo one i think

[minter]

is the meteor a lot bigger than say the hurri or spit? just wondering why the RRP is nearly 30 quid while mknight is 25?

[Agent X20]

Why was the Meteor Series 2 wheras a Spit was Series 1.... (Airfix) :D :D .........there is quite a lot more metal to them.. Just think of the Me262 as a bargain....

[shuttle]

The Meteors in the latest catalogue seem to have the different type of intake so I hope it is just very good attention to detail from Corgi?

In reference to minter's last post, I suspect two jet engines over one prop engine could be the answer? However, as Agent points out, the Me-262 won't be as much from Corgi (just like Airfix). It is a smaller plane though.

:) Shuttle

[G-force]

i cant take to these, not keen on the joint line thingys,looks like the nose might snap off, will wait for a camo one i think

Yeah, I think I 'll wait for a full camo one myself, for the same reasons. Panel lines were just not that heavy. See post below

[CFBC]

Whats the chances of using Paint Shop Pro or such like to lighten the picture G/F.. :cool:

Apologies to those on dial-up :D :rolleyes:

[G-force]

See what I can do CFBC, does appear darker on-line for some reason. Lighting could be better in Cosford.

(Message to self - learn how to resize pics!)

[G-force]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y279/7-6151835/Meteor.jpg

[maple 01]

Meteor T Mk 7.5, Nice!

[shuttle]

Here is a picture of the Hurricane from the set with the 'MacKnight' Hurricane. Both very nice models.

:) Shuttle

[CFBC]

Here is a picture of the Hurricane from the set with the 'MacKnight' Hurricane. Both very nice models.

:) Shuttle

Don't do that to us.... :( :(

[shuttle]

I really must get some sort of RAF bowser or starter trolley. Time to dig out one of the 'Aces' models with the bomb truck or A/C starter.....

:D Shuttle

[G-force]

Yeah, would like something like that to go with my jets.

[tricatus]

...here's an image of the 'trolley' displayed with the Hendon Meteor...

http://www.tricatus.co.uk/meteor_real.htm

[G-force]

Again, panel lines way too heavy on the Corgi. Nice pics. Tri.

[Agent Carr]

Its pretty set however it is bland. Would have jumped at one if there was decent box art and a nice history booklet. Will wait till they are around the £50 mark.

[shuttle]

4 great aircraft at £20 a pop is still good value. I agree, more effort on a booklet would be nice.

:) Shuttle

[Agent Carr]

Its good vaule but relcutant to buy something at £70 that will be £50 next week. I am not being tight I will buy a model at near SRP if it blows me away but this set isnt doing it yet.

[shuttle]

It will be interesting to set how this set performs. If it does go below £50 I will be tempted to get another one.

:) Shuttle

[Agent Carr]

There is 2000 of them so I would expect the price to hit around £50. Low numbers do not seem to stop aircraft being dumped. Seen a lot of the US copters being dumped for around £20.

[Agent X20]

Even at 2000 i dont think you will have problems finding these at £40-50

LAPG.. I reckon will be £25-30mmm........... post 16......

[Dogtwenty]

Jolly nice Hurricane and well on par with the McKnight and other previous issues, I'm well chuffed to add it to my bursting collection, well done to Corgi but God alone knows why the idiots chose 1 Sqn........ should have been 19 :D :D

[G-force]

Oh, it may be along shortly. Of course, no-one would know.

[Agent Carr]

No they should have waited till next year and done the 43 a far better choice.

[minter]

if they do a tiffie No 56 sqdn

[G-force]

Any they could have incorporated a Jaguar into , what with the disbandments and all that?

[Dogtwenty]

Why not do a multi 'End of the Jaguar era' set with an a/c from each disbanding squadron, because no one but the 1% of the collecting community would buy that either! :mad:

[prune]

Dragging up an old thread here, but what is the state of play on the 1 Sqn. box set. Also did anyone bring up the Hurricane code letter in the thread? I had a quick look through but didn't see anything. My understanding was that the Wasp on the Hurri was the personal insignia of Arthur Clowes, and the photo of his Hurricane JX B is one of the better known from the Battle, yet the one in the set is JX T :confused:

[spock1]

Digging up an old thread here, but whats the state of play with the 1 Sqn. set? I haven't seen any on ebay recently.What's the going rate now.


:( Mr. Prune,
Interesting you should mention this one. Suffice to say it has been an utter disaster so far as Corgi are concerned, and best left at that............ ;) :eek:

[charley]

:( Mr. Prune,
Interesting you should mention this one. Suffice to say it has been an utter disaster so far as Corgi are concerned, and best left at that............ ;) :eek:

This comes as no suprise....the History of No1 Squadron is rich and colourful! Sadly two words you wouldn't use to describe this offering........ :(

[prune]

I thought it was a good idea, if the pricing had been right.Don't suppose they would risk it again then, shame, now the Gladiators out it would have given a few more options.

[charley]

A series of Squadron models I'd welcome but the 1 set was full of Liveries that to be frank have been done to death! Now if it was something a little more unique/unusual then things might have been different? :confused:

[spock1]

I thought it was a good idea, if the pricing had been right.Don't suppose they would risk it again then, shame, now the Gladiators out it would have given a few more options.
:confused: Mr. Prune,
Prey tell what was wrong with the pricing ? £130 worth of AA for an srp of £99.99, discount prices in the region of £70 to £80. If you seriously think all AA offerings are only woth the proverbial tenner then so be it, but then do not be surprised if the range disappears altogether !! :(

To put it simply and succinctly, the majority of the models are good, the marketing and double dealing by the manufacturer stinks and it only remains to be seen how it all pans out !!....... :mad:

[58warren]

I purchased this set for about £90 inc. P&P. Mainly got it for the Hurricane, but the other models are nice enough although I don't normally collect post WW2 aircraft.

[Craig]

One on the Bay at present, BIN £85. I can't make my mind up on this one, I can't really say I found the choice of 1 Sqn to be particularly inspiring, and unfortunately £100 in one go for models in the main not all that dissimilar to the usual releases just proved a little too much. I can't really say as it was marketed that well either to be honest, it was never catalogued and I've still only ever seen one of them. With a better choice of sqn though and a slightly better range of models than was afforded by a Hurricane, Meteor, Harrier and Hunter and I might have been tempted. Would have been nice to see a nice commemorative box too. the Merlins over Malta set showed how a good special edition should be done and I fell had the 1 Sqn set been somethiong a bit more "special" then it might well have done better. I can't help but think that something like 111 Sqn would have been better, a Spitfire, a lightning, a Hunter and dare I say it a Tornado F3? Nice spectacular colour schemes and a real historic sqn, can't do sales any harm surely. Or even how about a 74 Sqn set? With the introduction of the Hawk next year there'd be possibilities for recreating the history of arguably one of the RAF's most famous sqns, the Flying Tigers. Would also have been nice to see something done to mark the passing of 16 and 54 sqn, even if it was only a standard Jaguar in commemorative packaging. I've long thought that a commemorative Vulcan to the Sky XH558 in commemorative packaging with a donation to the VTS would also be a good seller. i don't think it hurts to try and keep releases topical. Dare we hope for a 1:72 Synchro pair Red Arrows set with the release of the Hawk next year? How about even a display teams then and now set, with a Hunter and a Red Arrows Hawk? surely ther'es plenty of possibilities along these lines

[klepto4]

Just like to say some one on ebay was selling off the individual pieces of this set a while ago now and I got the Harrier out of it. There aren't as many of that particular model about, just the one previously (Falklands I think) and the snow one which makes my harrier collection abit more fulfilling.
But as a set try and bag the individual pieces that you want if a rare opportunity like mine comes along. It probably wont but you'll never know....

:D I'm sure some of you will be saying "Erm thanks for that :rolleyes: " :D

[Agent X20]

Are they not ( the unsold ones) all stored somewhere....?

[spock1]

Are they not ( the unsold ones) all stored somewhere....?

:D Seemingly in the open or under a leaky roof judging by previous mentions of water damaged boxes.............. :confused: :(

[The Defiant Man]

One on the Bay at present, BIN £85. I can't make my mind up on this one, I can't really say I found the choice of 1 Sqn to be particularly inspiring, and unfortunately £100 in one go for models in the main not all that dissimilar to the usual releases just proved a little too much.

Pretty much my thoughts......can't believe they've sold anywhere near all 2,000......so they must be somewhere, assuming they did actually make that many in view of the apparent poor pre-order rate. If they did, then they will appear eventually (bit like the Oulton Lib has started to appear).

[Agent X20]

It will all come out in the wash.. they are just building up stocks again and if yer have a little patience IMHO sometime in the future the market will be swamped with them and one or two others.....

Lofty Agent prediction... they will come on at £40 and go down to £25/30... unless the 'opportunists' buy em up and split them. I aint got any space anymore .... so it will need to be silly money.

[Marky_ncl]

[QUOTE=The Defiant Mancan't believe they've sold anywhere near all 2,000.......[/QUOTE]

All I can say is that they haven´t......... Maybe 25%............

Mark

[Agent X20]

So 1,500 sitting in a warehouse.... 400 or so with the wholesalers/dealers and 100 actually sold..?

[minter]

3 of the models arnt too bad, the silver ones the ugly duckling, and aint got a harrier or hunter so i would dip me toe in for 30 odd quid

[shuttle]

Minter,

All of the models in the set are fine. Even if it went down to £60 it would be a bargain as they ain't 'Legends' and £15 each is a steal!

:) Shuttle

[P51D]

3 of the models arnt too bad, the silver ones the ugly duckling, and aint got a harrier or hunter so i would dip me toe in for 30 odd quid

I think half the problem with this set is that most people probably would only pay 30 quid for it (me included) This isn't because I don't think the models are worth more..simply because I specialise in what I collect and would only want the hurri! :)

[minter]

it boils down to the planes, obvious i suppose...now if there was a lightning in there it might be a bit more popular?

[Craig]

To be honest I've struggled to figure the logic of putting the Hurricane in it. Although many of you have said it's only the Hurricane you want most of you haven't bought it becasue you're not interested in the other 3. Personally I think they'd have been better sticking with jets or WW2, rather than mixing your markets as you invariably end up pleasing neither. Some nice models, but can't help but think they'd have been better releasing them as 4 seperate, commemoratively packaged models that formed a set. then you can keep everyone happy....

[P51D]

Personally I think they'd have been better sticking with jets or WW2, rather than mixing your markets as you invariably end up pleasing neither. Some nice models, but can't help but think they'd have been better releasing them as 4 seperate, commemoratively packaged models that formed a set. then you can keep everyone happy....

My thoughts exactly!

[Typhoon-MKV]

So 1,500 sitting in a warehouse.... 400 or so with the wholesalers/dealers and 100 actually sold..?
That's about the right figure sitting in the warehouse - must say not one of Corgis best moves.

Expect to see them dumped pretty soon.....

[goonybird]

last NEC fair a dealer had them at 50% of retail.
I remember thinking cheap at about 60 quid. But no spare cash.
would have though lowest cost circa £7.50-£10 per model. so extrapolate that to about £30-40 a set, rock bottom. Which tallies with the L/A guide. :rolleyes:

Big problem as ever is it's yet another big box :eek:

[prune]

[QUOTE=prune] My understanding was that the Wasp on the Hurri was the personal insignia of Arthur Clowes, and the photo of his Hurricane JX B is one of the better known from the Battle, yet the one in the set is JX T :confused:


Has anyone got any thoughts on this, seeing that a few would only buy it for the Hurricane?
,

[Dogtwenty]

****** sill set, I only bought the Hurricane (CFBC will never let me hear the end of it) as the rest did not turn me on at all, one jot in fact.
'B' was indeed Clowes personal a/c and it is recorded that the tail of the Wasp was painted with a new black line for eack e/a he shot down, so the cant get that right either, UNLESS Clowes moved onto another a/c later on, but I dont know when old fruit. :)

[prune]

[QUOTE=Dogtwenty, UNLESS Clowes moved onto another a/c later on, but I dont know when old fruit. :)[/QUOTE]

It would be strange for Corgi to do the Hurri that no one has seen or heard about, when there are photo's and loads of artists profiles about for JX B.

[The Defiant Man]

I think half the problem with this set is that most people probably would only pay 30 quid for it (me included) This isn't because I don't think the models are worth more..simply because I specialise in what I collect and would only want the hurri! :)
Somebody with the same idea currently selling the 3 jets on ebay (listed today)...3 different auctions.

[Agent X20]

Again crass stupidity by the canine... should have been 4 boxes in a big box to enable splitting and resale....

[Dogtwenty]

It would be strange for Corgi to do the Hurri that no one has seen or heard about, when there are photo's and loads of artists profiles about for JX B.

Well, young Prune, THAT is one of Corgis little problems I'm afraid. Best get a cup of tea and worry about what the Hun are up to............. :rolleyes:

[tuck257]

Somebody with the same idea currently selling the 3 jets on ebay (listed today)...3 different auctions.


I bought the set on ebay a while ago for £60 and i only wanted the hurricane to keep my set up to date. The other three aircraft are now sat in thier box in the loft. What a waste.

[DCRanger]

From the comments that I have seen on the forum the Hurricane seems to be the only one of any interest.

[Dogtwenty]

Thats because its the only a/c with any taste in the set - flog your others off on Evilbay and clear your loft out for 2006! :D

[spock1]

Thats because its the only a/c with any taste in the set - flog your others off on Evilbay and clear your loft out for 2006! :D

:) Mr. DT20,

Beg to differ but anyone with the full set may be wise to sit tight and weather the storm................ ;) :)

[Rusty]

But if you don't like the other three there's not much point in having them really is there?! :D

[spock1]

But if you don't like the other three there's not much point in having them really is there?! :D
:D Mr. Rusty,
Remember the case of the Ugly Duckling that turned into a Beautiful Swan... ;) :)
In the few short years of the Aviation Archive I can remember many a model that were dumped and now demand a King's Ransom........ :D

Duck Spits, NF Hurri's, Pilot Notes Spits, Hurr's and 109's, to name but a few. Be interesting to review the position in 12 to 18 months time........ :)

PS - Hot tip for 2006 is the Catalina - Its gorgeous............... :D

[minter]

PS - Hot tip for 2006 is the Catalina - Its gorgeous............... :D

and the raf mitchell fab!

[jetfan]

Should we run a survey to see if other squadrons would merit a boxed set of three or four?
For example, a 92 Sqdn set could include Spitfire, Meteor, Sabre and Hunter I'm sure suitable markings could be selected that haven't been covered. Same thing applies to 66 Sqdn.
I bought the No 1 Sqdn set mainly because I wanted the Meteor, but I wasn't upset about the other types as they fitted in with the rest of my collection.
All I'd ask is for a smaller form of packaging, say half the size but double-decked plus a more realistic price that reflects the per unit cost with a small mark up as a limited edition.

Note to self: now watch out for the flak!

[condor]

I like this set :eek: I wouldn't have paid RRP as I'm tight with my money, but, I dont think it was too overly priced :eek: I think the all the models included are good, and probably worth £20 each. I agree the box was abit over the top size wise, and was flimsy :( I feel however that the number of people splitting this set and selling seperates on certain sites, will make the full boxed set become a rather rare item :D


Condor

[spock1]

:) This set I believe was limited to 2,000 pieces which equates to 8,000 model aircraft. The individual srp's for said aircraft was approx. £130 yet had an srp of £99.99. Discounted prices put the set at £70 to £75 which gave a price of less than £20 per model !!

It has to be said that the promotion of the set was sadly lacking and the presentation extremely poor to put it very mildly. The fact that it was a non-catalogue release only compounds the marketing stupidity of the Hound imho.... :(

These opinions have been openly expressed to one of their senior members with some appropriate suggestions. The fact of the matter is that the release has not even been 25% sold which does not bode well at all for the AA range. There still remains 6,000 plus models unsold which in anyones books, large or small, must constitute a complete disaster. To dump same on the open market would to my mind be utter folly and bring forward at warp speed the end of the range due to its being economically unviable....... :eek:

These are the facts as I know them to date, what happens next remains to be seen............... ;) :)

[G-force]

So, what that basically amount to is this - How much do you want for a set?

[spock1]

So, what that basically amount to is this - How much do you want for a set?

:) Mr. GF.,

The question as far as I am concerned is academic because mine are all sold. Any seller left with stock may well be advised to sit tight and see what happens......... ;) :)

[Agent X20]

Calm down dears...!!

This is the same constructive argument (or total bollix) which could be applied to many sets...

Here we go..

How about the best P47 and a rather superb P51 with a FREE B17 thrown in for good measure..

War over Europe but call it War in the Pacific.. £40 and Bobs me do dahs...

Yer pay less for a Pathfinder set than you do a Grim Reaper yet the Mossie is ACE... ( OK Lanc is pants... but its FREE..)

Blitz set etc etc....

Sets is where the hound really shows its ability to screw up big time.... IF it had concentarted more on collections rather than sets it wouldn't be in the preverbial sticky stuff its in.....

NIce drop of Tescos red tonight...... <hic>

[spock1]

NIce drop of Tescos red tonight...... <hic>

:D Fresh shipment of Romulan Ale awaited, having to make do with a nice drop of Valpolicella a la Waitrose .............. ;) :D

[G-force]

Only joking......no, really, I was!
Anyone know what they are running at these days, might be worth a flutter on one.

[condor]

Only joking......no, really, I was!
Anyone know what they are running at these days, might be worth a flutter on one.

Around the £50 mark seems to be about average, but have seen them for less :eek:



Condor

[G-force]

Bargain!!!!

[Agent X20]

Hold on there G Force cos you is suffering from the premature Martin Bakers there .... listen to the Grand Master with the funny ears, theres still 1500 of them left.. gotta be a tenner a piece.. so £40.. and as Frankie says.. no more.... If I am proved wrong and yer get yers for £30.. you can buy me a pint...

mmm Red stuff gone dry.. so its a refreshing pinto de Speckled Hen..

[shuttle]

Well, when somone spots them for £40 or below please let me know. I am in the market for a set for display!!

:) Shuttle

[Agent X20]

If its thirty can I have a pint too.. :D

End of day they will be ousted.. unless Corgi have bought options on Cardington...

[G-force]

Hold on there G Force cos you is suffering from the premature Martin Bakers there .... listen to the Grand Master with the funny ears, theres still 1500 of them left.. gotta be a tenner a piece.. so £40.. and as Frankie says.. no more.... If I am proved wrong and yer get yers for £30.. you can buy me a pint...

mmm Red stuff gone dry.. so its a refreshing pinto de Speckled Hen..


Be glad to buy you a pint anytime, soon hopefully.

[CFBC]

Received an e-mail tonight from a supplier of Corgi's:-

It stated

"Coming soon RAF E3D, No 1 Sqn Set all at super low prices"

Work that one out peeps.... :D

Wonder what "super low" is? :rolleyes:

[kevjb64]

Received an e-mail tonight from a supplier of Corgi's:-



Now I know you have reached the ' inner circle ' , Mr . Wong is e-mailing you direct ! :rolleyes: :D

[P51D]

Received an e-mail tonight from a supplier of Corgi's:-

It stated

"Coming soon RAF E3D, No 1 Sqn Set all at super low prices"

Work that one out peeps.... :D

Wonder what "super low" is? :rolleyes:

Got the same mail, will be interesting to see what they end up going for. Still havn't really decided how low it will need to be for me to buy :confused: and should I really be buying it at all just for the hurri or just cause it's cheap :confused: .....big box...storage?

[CFBC]

Now I know you have reached the ' inner circle ' , Mr . Wong is e-mailing you direct ! :rolleyes: :D

It don't look good from in ere Kev.... :( :D :D

Welcome P51... :D

[Typhoon-MKV]

For £60 it's a good set

If it hits £40 it's a no-brainer I'll have two........

Time to build a Car Port, I'm moving into the Garage!!!!!!! :eek:

[charley]

Err yes well I think this brings the days of 'Sets' to a close....can't see em going for another set again......... :(

[CFBC]

Best I not get married next year!!! Save me money for these sets.... :D

[Agent X20]

Yer see you could have sold out for a beaching trolley.. hey ho... sorry I really should be more accurate.; a one off limited edition beaching trolley with a wheel missing..

How much .. have faith in the Lofty Agent pricing system.. well the Agent pricing system.. seem the Lofty bit has buggered off to Chocolate Moose land with me petty cash tin. if they is wanting to shift them.. we has to be looking at £40.....

[Craig]

RAF E-3D at super-low prices? I thought they'd done quite well? Oh well, might have to invest... :rolleyes: :cool:

[Lofty]

Yer see you could have sold out for a beaching trolley.. hey ho... sorry I really should be more accurate.; a one off limited edition beaching trolley with a wheel missing..

How much .. have faith in the Lofty Agent pricing system.. well the Agent pricing system.. seem the Lofty bit has buggered off to Chocolate Moose land with me petty cash tin. if they is wanting to shift them.. we has to be looking at £40.....
The pricing system has had a bit of a makeover seeing i is payin' dollar now.....but principle is the same.......
Left petty cash tin......was full of Agent IOU's anyway :D :D

[Agent X20]

RAF E-3D at super-low prices? I thought they'd done quite well? Oh well, might have to invest... :rolleyes: :cool: Apart from the hard core, who really wants them... would have thought that the majority were sitting in a kennel somewhere..

[Agent X20]

The pricing system has had a bit of a makeover seeing i is payin' dollar now.....but principle is the same.......
Left petty cash tin......was full of Agent IOU's anyway :D :D Isnt it top dollar out there..... :D :D

[lovethoseplanes]

I will certainly have a set or two if they drop in price. http://www.diecast-aviation.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

[minter]

:) This set I believe was limited to 2,000 pieces which equates to 8,000 model aircraft. The individual srp's for said aircraft was approx. £130 yet had an srp of £99.99. Discounted prices put the set at £70 to £75 which gave a price of less than £20 per model !!

It has to be said that the promotion of the set was sadly lacking and the presentation extremely poor to put it very mildly. The fact that it was a non-catalogue release only compounds the marketing stupidity of the Hound imho.... :(

These opinions have been openly expressed to one of their senior members with some appropriate suggestions. The fact of the matter is that the release has not even been 25% sold which does not bode well at all for the AA range. There still remains 6,000 plus models unsold which in anyones books, large or small, must constitute a complete disaster. To dump same on the open market would to my mind be utter folly and bring forward at warp speed the end of the range due to its being economically unviable....... :eek:

These are the facts as I know them to date, what happens next remains to be seen............... ;) :)

they want to take a leaf out of what the MoM gang did, i know they helped them, but give the punters what they want..still loads of veterans out there get some boxes or certs signed,and do a special like the tuck 2 piece set but with another pilot ie drake ie hurri and p-40

[kevjb64]

Currently residing in a Norfolk warehouse awaiting to be shipped to ebay buyers @ £45 . It would appear the Hound need laser treatment for its terminal shortsightedness . :(

[CFBC]

Not just in a Norfolk warehouse Kev... Lay em all out from the South of England to the North of Scotland.... Even Agent C would get a few.... :D

[Agent X20]

Still a fiver above the Lofty Agent price guide.. :mad:

If there are 1500 still unsold, its gotta drop further IF you want them shifted.. :D

Dont forget it was Lofty Agent that siad the Blue SeaKing was a BUY circa £15..

E Bay tonite 17 minutes left £28......

edit ....What is interesting is the dayglo Canberra at twenty five and the Jaguar at a score... god Corgi you talk BOLLIX....

[G-force]

Looks likely there will be a Jaguar joining the squadron real soon.

[P51D]

Saw this set on display today and had a decent look. Only interested in the hurri and much prefere my MOM legend hurri (an example of which was conveniently nearby for comparison)

So.....even if they drop to £30....or less :eek: It just isn't for me!

[Agent X20]

Looks likely there will be a Jaguar joining the squadron real soon.

Look at it this way Mr G.. If a Bucc is £9-11... and a mighty fine mold and no PORG pilots.. Jags will end up a tenner... have faith in the Lofty Agent PricePredictor.. some say we take the PP...!!

Apologies this ended up on the Langleys thread...

.. bloomin vino is strong tonite..!!

[spock1]

:( Looks like the Hound really surpassing itself on their marketing (or lack of) and pricing policies. Coupled with their recent price increases this crass stupidy must surely scoop the prize board for 'Wallies of the Year' with joint second prizes going to whats left of their loyal customers for purchasing product at time of release........... :mad:

My predictions for the immediate future are a significant drop in their pre-order book for 2006 assuming that is there are any dealers left prepared to get shafted yet again by their seemingly false promises and lack of confidence in their product. The sad truth is that the product is mainly good, their marketing strategies are utter carp !!......... :mad:

[Agent X20]

Bout time we started marketing the Lofty Agent PricePredictor then..

[zed550]

anyone fancy buying a few to split,i will take a harrier and hunter

[spock1]

Bout time we started marketing the Lofty Agent PricePredictor then..

:D Agent,

That will keep you gainfully employed for a while if you intend to keep it up to date............. ;) :D

[Agent X20]

Yep.... might even make it a charitable project... you dealer chappies would'nt like it.... but there again you have already mentioned pre-orders..

[spock1]

anyone fancy buying a few to split,i will take a harrier and hunter

:D Mr. Z,

Spot on !! With a set like this flopping big style why on Earth do they not take the hint and re-issue them as separate items. By my estimations they themselves are flushing thick end of at least £50k down the toilet........ :( :eek:

[Agent X20]

Thing is though Mr Spocky... thats 6 months to do that.. bean counters have already written them off....

They would actually have done better keeping a thousand and flogging them off as the club model at £29.99 plus postage... that would have upped the membership and made the pooch more pennies...

[CFBC]

Even I agree to that Spock... Does not take a lot of working out does it... :(

[spock1]

Thing is though Mr Spocky... thats 6 months to do that.. bean counters have already written them off....

They would actually have done better keeping a thousand and flogging them off as the club model at £29.99 plus postage... that would have upped the membership and made the pooch more pennies...

:) Agent,

Excellent idea !! One of a few that could have been exploited with little effort and would have helped saved face so to speak. Sad thing is this has now gone a long way into writing off next years offerings before they have even seen the light of day imho........ :(

[Agent X20]

Well with ther greatest of respect to the dealer fraternity, enough stuff has been released into the bins for most pockets.. just this last coupla weeks..

Meteor
Meteor
Connie
Grumpy Spit
Dayglo Canberra
No 1 Set
Jaguar
He111 ( muddy grey green thingy)
a Lib or two......

then theres the Commissions that you have to buy this month....

MZ x 2
CHC x 1

and at least a MoM set...

and perhaps an order or two coming up to MR Lem and the Mule for their new ones.... not forgetting a Jaguar of some description...

at twenty quid a model thats over £200 worth.....!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

....... and then thre is of course the Corgi releases for this month so are you surprised pooch why no one is buying yer products at RRP...!!!!



Come on chaps wake up and smell the coffee you are raping the marketplace....

[spock1]

Come on chaps wake up and smell the coffee you are raping the marketplace....

:D Agent,

Perhaps that should read 'attempting to' , they seem to lack ability when it comes to the follow through !!......... ;) :D

[Agent X20]

sorry..

.. you are attempting to rape the marketplace....

... naw.... it was rape.... it still tingles.. :eek:

Wonder if they have done a survey to see what the average hardcore nutter spends in a month... time for a new thread... :D

[charley]

and at least a MoM set...

....

Why Thank You! ;)

[Agent X20]

No problem Mr Charles.. was going to say two... twas just trying to illustrate that if yer fancy is for 50% of that lot ( which is this months commissions or dumpsters - both of these have a higher priority than the 'general' release..) you are spending more on diecast per month than most do on heating.. in fact only thing that will cost more is the divorce.. I think the hound has set his sights a little high as to the rate we can absorb these issues...

[spock1]

:D See the usual Price War has now broken out on the Bay on this set as well.........yawn..............Looks like they may well be sub £40 next week ! ......... ;) :eek:

PS - And thats before the Agent/Lofty Predictor hits the streets !! :D

[Agent X20]

:DPS - And thats before the Agent/Lofty Predictor hits the streets !! :DOn premium rate subscription service.. as we are trying to restore an old Vulcan.. :D :D :D :D

and hey look .. here come the Sentry's...



I see what yer mean about the savage undercutting... thats not a moan of course.. :D :D :D

[spock1]

I see what yer mean about the savage undercutting... thats not a moan of course.. :D :D :D [/SIZE]

:rolleyes: Agent,

Thou must not moan, the 11th Comandment. The 12th Commandment being look for that which is not there and you may truly find something thats actually collectable and worth having............ ;) :D

[Agent X20]

When I am sober, I will re read that post again and then refer to my catalogue to see what aint been carved up and ousted out... but the LA Pee Pee has most probably had those chappies earmarked anyway...

[Lofty]

:( Looks like the Hound really surpassing itself on their marketing (or lack of) and pricing policies. Coupled with their recent price increases this crass stupidy must surely scoop the prize board for 'Wallies of the Year' with joint second prizes going to whats left of their loyal customers for purchasing product at time of release........... :mad:

My predictions for the immediate future are a significant drop in their pre-order book for 2006 assuming that is there are any dealers left prepared to get shafted yet again by their seemingly false promises and lack of confidence in their product. The sad truth is that the product is mainly good, their marketing strategies are utter carp !!......... :mad:
Don't you hold back Mr Spock.........you tell 'em EXACTLY what ya think.... :D
Think the hound is heading to the vets on a one way trip :(
Need ol' Sharkboy (and Lava girl?)to beat the drums a bit louder.......
I don't want to jump on the hound bashing wagon....but(oh oh here it comes)....my own feelings are the management really are squeezing the pip's and there ain't a lot left....... :(
Great idea about the set.....bit late now though :o

[Sailor.]

Now they can do biplanes.

No. 56 Squadron
SE5
Hurricane
Lightning

No. 74 Squadron
SE5
Spitfire
Lightning

:)

[Agent X20]

Dont think they will be rushing into many more Squadron boxed sets.. :D :D

[prune]

Now they can do biplanes.

No. 56 Squadron
SE5
Hurricane
Lightning

No. 74 Squadron
SE5
Spitfire
Lightning

:)
56 sqn can also have Gladiator,Spit,Typhoon :rolleyes: Meteor
615 Sqn, Glad,Hurri,SpitVIII,P-47
85 Sqn. Glad,Hurri,Mossie
65Sqn. Glad,Spit,Mustang

[minter]

yes, box artwork and signed by a pilot or two

[kevjb64]

Dont think they will be rushing into many more Squadron boxed sets.. :D :D


You would guess but with the current management team it seems all logic has been removed from what little thought process goes on at Hound towers . Once again it is amazing that as soon as it was announced almost everyone ( either publicly or privately ) said it was a dead duck , so how with supposedly all their experience , market research etc. ; could'nt they see this ?? :confused:

All they need to do is stop producing so many models and given 6-18 months the market would sort itself out ( most probably ) , IMPO it really is that simple . But they keep coming up with different idea after different idea , none that work .

Currently we are told they have new plans , I wish them well but 6 hours before his suicide Hitler ordered 2 army groups to attack the advancing Russian forces , it was a truly great plan except the two army groups did not exist !! :rolleyes:

[Agent X20]

Think somewhere along the line they may just discover that the market for repetitive purchasing by actual collectors/enthusiasts is a darn sight smaller than they think it is.. :D

[minter]

Currently we are told they have new plans , I wish them well but 6 hours before his suicide Hitler ordered 2 army groups to attack the advancing Russian forces , it was a truly great plan except the two army groups did not exist !! :rolleyes:

its all becoming clear now...martin boormans turned up and running corgi AA then

[Agent X20]

Its going to have to be a very cunning plan.... :D

[kevjb64]

Its going to have to be a very cunning plan.... :D

As cunning as a fox with a degree in cunning etc. :D

[Agent X20]

At least that... :D

[Agent Carr]

I see they are down to £44 on ebay. Really tempted at this price as its a lovely set with nice aircraft choices.

[minter]

Its going to have to be a very cunning plan.... :D

does it involve a turnip ?

[kevjb64]

does it involve a turnip ?

At least or maybe a swede ?? :rolleyes: :D

[Johnny Red]

I suppose the thinking with this set was that anyone who collects either Hurricanes, Meteors, Hunters or Harriers might buy it for the sake of completeness. The difficulty with this, as with all box sets was that it was a lot of money to spend if you weren't interested in any of the other three.

From my perspective, whilst they may be accurate and all that, the liveries in this particular set seem as dull as ditchwater.

Even at £45 I couldn't justify it to myself, let alone to the 'station commander.'

[prune]

From my perspective, whilst they may be accurate and all that, the liveries in this particular set seem as dull as ditchwater.
.'
JR, See previous post about the Hurricane markings.

[Johnny Red]

JR, See previous post about the Hurricane markings.


Well I put that bit in so no one would say 'Whether you like them or not, thats the colour they should be, you philistine '

Hey what do I know - after all, 400 satisfied customers (out of 2000 sets produced) can't be wrong.

[prune]

Well I put that bit in so no one would say 'Whether you like them or not, thats the colour they should be, you philistine '

Hey what do I know - after all, 400 satisfied customers (out of 2000 sets produced) can't be wrong.


I've never even been to Philistine :D

[kevjb64]

I've never even been to Philistine :D

10 miles south of amarillo ain't it ?? :D

[lovethoseplanes]

Anybody want to split a set with me?

Ok moderators. Just joking. :D

[The Defiant Man]

Think somewhere along the line they may just discover that the market for repetitive purchasing by actual collectors/enthusiasts is a darn sight smaller than they think it is.. :D

Would have thought they would have realised by now....if they do relly read the forum.....perhaps those with closer contacts should start telling 'em a bit more forcefully.

[kevjb64]

Would have thought they would have realised by now....if they do relly read the forum.....perhaps those with closer contacts should start telling 'em a bit more forcefully.

I 'm sure if they ARE reading it they should get the idea , I'm sure at the nice tea someone told that nice man that WE the purchasing punter have had enough , after all apparently there are TWO faces , sorry sides to every argument . :rolleyes:

PS . Hope this is not seen as NEGATIVE .

[Agent X20]

Would have thought they would have realised by now.....
I dont think they do... its Corgi.. die casts for the masses.. great if there are masses..

[Typhoon-MKV]

I 'm sure if they ARE reading it they should get the idea , I'm sure at the nice tea someone told that nice man that WE the purchasing punter have had enough , after all apparently there are TWO faces , sorry sides to every argument . :rolleyes:

PS . Hope this is not seen as NEGATIVE .
Negative - if we banned all negative posts then certain individuals on this forum would have no posts at all!!!!!

Snide comment more like - oh and that's coming from my other face by the way.........

[CFBC]

I 'm sure if they ARE reading it they should get the idea , I'm sure at the nice tea someone told that nice man that WE the purchasing punter have had enough , after all apparently there are TWO faces , sorry sides to every argument . :rolleyes:

PS . Hope this is not seen as NEGATIVE .

Not sure what you quite mean here Kev... I am sure that the likes on the retailers and other outlets certainly advised Corgi of what is happening and I also belive they are doing so now (from conversations I have had with some last w/e). As the saying goes "you can lead a horse to water......"

The BIG question is are Corgi listening? :confused:

[CFBC]

Would have thought they would have realised by now....if they do relly read the forum.....perhaps those with closer contacts should start telling 'em a bit more forcefully.

I agree. It's about time those who worked closely with Corgi like the retailers, wholesale and toyfair merchants started talking closely with Corgi or simply stop stocking the items.....

Anyway, we seem to be digressing from the thread so I best stop now. :)

[minter]

I dont think they do... its Corgi.. die casts for the masses.. great if there are masses..

masses of people who think townesend was the only hurricane pilot and malan the spit pilot

[kevjb64]

Negative - if we banned all negative posts then certain individuals on this forum would have no posts at all!!!!!

Snide comment more like - oh and that's coming from my other face by the way.........

Only two I was under the impression you had far more than that :rolleyes: . Yep certainly was a snide comment but only on the grounds I really do not see that there are currently two sides to any argument when the hound is involved. I could bore us all senseless with a huge post just going over all the lies told , the 3 month , 8 month , 2 year plan , all that just mean we are going to get another 20% of models extra this/that half . So the two faced comment was aimed elsewhere !

I presume that at the meeting with the hound it would have been nigh on impossible to avoid discussing the fact that people have not been buying the product .

As for the negative sentence , I am finding it increasingly difficult not to post negative posts ( grammar Timothy ) , I relish a good release like the B25's and a bold move like the glad / sfish but the opportunity to do so is becoming increasingly rare . And I do appreciate that what you say is correct , if you banned the negs , posts would be down somewhat . But I found the initial comment regarding negative posts a bit strange anyway . If one person / institution keeps having problems with numerous other persons / institutions then soon you have to say they are wrong . I like many others before me am very close to just stopping collecting as it is rapidly loosing its appeal .

[kevjb64]

Not sure what you quite mean here Kev... I am sure that the likes on the retailers and other outlets certainly advised Corgi of what is happening and I also belive they are doing so now (from conversations I have had with some last w/e). As the saying goes "you can lead a horse to water......"

The BIG question is are Corgi listening? :confused:


So I do not keep going off thread a quick and obvious answer is NO ! :(

[kevjb64]

Only two I was under the impression you had far more than that :rolleyes: .


Another easy way to win friends and influence people is to leave this bit off :D the end of the sentence . Apologies Typh V. :)

[Abbevilleslayer]

Hi All!!! I'm interested in getting the Hurri from this set and that's all, is anyone interested in owning the 3 jets and the box minus the Hurri if I pay for half of the 52 BSP it will cost to get this and I'll pay for you to ship the plane to me here in the U.S. as well??? I just want that plane sooooo bad, it's just a BEAUT'!!! And it would go great with all my other Battle of Britain planes, in fact it is the only one missing from my collection with the early brown and green paint scheme!!! Please help if you can or want!!! :D

[Agent X20]

Are they not readily available inthe States for £$ parity.. I suggest that you PM one of the dealers....

[Abbevilleslayer]

Hi Agent, I haven't seen them in the U.S. yet and I'm wondering if perhaps you know which dealers to PM????? Any help is greatly appreciated as I am Foaming at the mouth to get ahold of that Hurri!!! hehe :D

[DannyBoy76]

Flying Mule had a very limited amount. They were gone in less than two weeks.

[Craig]

Stupid as it sounds you may well be right about these sets being one of the most collectable, there seems to be very few complete ones about these days, and at 2000 it wasn't a massive production run to start with. Those that are picking them up for around the £35 mark may well be finding they have an excellent buy on their hands in a few years time...

[Abbevilleslayer]

I just wish I could find that darn Hurricane from that set and it was mint and for sale!!! :D

[Typhoon-MKV]

I just wish I could find that darn Hurricane from that set and it was mint and for sale!!! :D
You never know you might have you wish come true soon <cough> ;) ;)

[minter]

i see one of the hurris went for 48 quid on the bay..wow!

[G-force]

i see one of the hurris went for 48 quid on the bay..wow!


Now that is insane!!

[Agent X20]

Perhaps they didnt want to pay the postage on such a heavy item..!! dat must be de answer.. crazy....

[Typhoon-MKV]

i see one of the hurris went for 48 quid on the bay..wow!
Bizarre - having just paid less than that for the complete set including postage.

[Abbevilleslayer]

I know!!! Why would anyone do that, I guess they aren't too smart. Some of the people on ebay don't care to check into these things, they would rather spend spend spend!!! Must be nice to have that kind of extra cash just laying around??!! :D

[ozlanc]

Out of interest I've been watching a set that has just sold on UK Ebay for thirty five pounds, seems a bargain.

[Grizzly Adams]

Got my set thru the post today and anyone who is hesitating over this set then don't! Grab one of those £40 jobs on the bay now and you wont regret it. The Hurricane is going to be worth that alone, gorgeous paint job, love the wasp on the left hand cowling. The Meteor and Hunter are quite bland, but nicely done none-the-less. The Harrier is tops and a lovely grey green camo scheme that would compliment the No1. Sqn Winter Camo scheme nicely! If you bung on p&p £12 per model is a steal and since so many seem to be being broken up i reckon it'll be a rare set in the future.

Grizz

[Dogtwenty]

I paid £50 for my Hurricane and I do not regret it one bit. I even have a copy of the sets limited number for future selling, should I develop a cutlas and piratical dealer trates......................... :rolleyes:

[Lofty]

I paid £50 for my Hurricane and I do not regret it one bit. I even have a copy of the sets limited number for future selling, should I develop a cutlas and piratical dealer trates......................... :rolleyes:
Aye Jim lad.....Splice the mainbrace etc.... :p

[condor]

I paid £50 for my Hurricane and I do not regret it one bit. I even have a copy of the sets limited number for future selling, should I develop a cutlas and piratical dealer trates......................... :rolleyes:

I paid £35 for the full set :D Not being the best at maths, but I think thats better than £50 for one Hurricane ;)



Condor

[Rusty]

I paid £35 for the full set :D Not being the best at maths, but I think thats better than £50 for one Hurricane ;)



Condor

True but he's had his for a while now, and you just got yours! I got a set for £45 + postage and have decided to split it up. I'm willling to let the individual jets go for next to nothing as I don't really want them (though may keep them anyway since no-one seems interested), so in effect I paid more than £50 for the Hurricane! I would have loved to have gone to a toyfair where they were knocking them out for £35, but that price is only for a lucky few - I'm sure if M/Z had them for that price in all their stores we would all have a set!

[Agent X20]

Lofty Agent prediction has moved to a buy on this one.... and I would certainly keep em intact Mr Rusty..... :rolleyes:

[Lofty]

Lofty Agent prediction has moved to a buy on this one.... and I would certainly keep em intact Mr Rusty..... :rolleyes:
Oh yes indeedy at 35 smackeroonies the Hurricane is worth the price of admission....... ;)
Now if someone can get me one for that price............. :cool:

[Agent X20]

... with shipping included..... :D

[CFBC]

How about £39.99. Bargain. :cool:

I know one Ebayer is also releasing each individual aircraft on Ebay as a B.I.N for £11.99 each which if you do not want the set, then this is also very good indeed.

[Lofty]

How about £39.99. Bargain. :cool:

I know one Ebayer is also releasing each individual aircraft on Ebay as a B.I.N for £11.99 each which if you do not want the set, then this is also very good indeed.
You on commission, CFBC? :D :D :D :D

[CFBC]

Not at all Lofty, just helping members get even more of a bargain :cool:

[condor]

If its the guy I've seen, he doesn't have any Hurricanes left :(



Condor

[CFBC]

He does... :D (well, had this morning). :) And no, I am NOT on commission.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Rusty]

He does have one left but removed the £11.99 BIN option. Judging from the fact that the first five Hurris he listed all sold within an hour of listing (and some within minutes!!) I think that was a wise idea!

The lucky bidders were 'trotty1919', 'the-flying-tiger', 'philglt', and of course 'wishbone1948red' who got... two of them. Oh, and look what was put up for auction the very next day! (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/No-1-Sqn-Hawker-Hurricane-Corgi-Aviation-Archive_W0QQitemZ6991687845QQcategoryZ56313QQssPag eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Is that cheeky or is that cheeky. No wonder the original seller removed his BIN option.

Rest of you should get the whole set - I'm keeping mine whole (with Hurri displayed of course)!

[CFBC]

Likewise Rusty... My set is staying as a one set indeed and I have bought one more for safe keeping too. :D :cool:

[plumstix]

I will have to pick one up shortly.

[The Defiant Man]

I will have to pick one up shortly.
Same here.....Harrogate t/f Sunday......hmmm

[CFBC]

I suggest you do soon if you want a whole set as rumours are circulating outta Corgiville.... :D

[The Defiant Man]

I suggest you do soon if you want a whole set as rumours are circulating outta Corgiville.... :D
Something to do with re-packaging?

[plumstix]

I'll see if I can get one on Saturday at Brentwood.

[CFBC]

Something to do with re-packaging?

Could be D/F Man... ;) a WHOLE load have dissapeared I can say that much. :D

[Typhoon-MKV]

Something to do with re-packaging?
Might well be <cough>

[condor]

Might well be <cough>

Why doesn't someone just say what they mean :confused: Are Corgi withdrawing the set and re-releasing them as seperates as rumoured? A simple yes or no will do.



Condor

[corgi956]

So where can I get one for £39.99 including p&p as inditimated earlier? :confused:

Some of us poor saps aren't in the know like some of you guys. :o

[Agent X20]

Thought it was more a case of £39.99 plus postage... E Bay.. seller had em on a BIN...

Would think a flurry of activity would prompt the pooch to leave em as they are.. :D . However that could bring em down again if there are four figures left in da warehouse..

Anyway a tenner each... :p so according to Mr Seabird... better have one..!! :p :p :p

[Abbevilleslayer]

Hi Rusty, I noticed you have a Corgi Hurri that is coded JX@B, which one is that or it must be a custom job???
:D





He does have one left but removed the £11.99 BIN option. Judging from the fact that the first five Hurris he listed all sold within an hour of listing (and some within minutes!!) I think that was a wise idea!

The lucky bidders were 'trotty1919', 'the-flying-tiger', 'philglt', and of course 'wishbone1948red' who got... two of them. Oh, and look what was put up for auction the very next day! (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/No-1-Sqn-Hawker-Hurricane-Corgi-Aviation-Archive_W0QQitemZ6991687845QQcategoryZ56313QQssPag eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Is that cheeky or is that cheeky. No wonder the original seller removed his BIN option.

Rest of you should get the whole set - I'm keeping mine whole (with Hurri displayed of course)!

[Rusty]

Hi Rusty, I noticed you have a Corgi Hurri that is coded JX@B, which one is that or it must be a custom job???
:D

I actually have a spare JX@B which is awaiting conversion to Russkie status, but no it is not a custom job itself! Left to Right:

Corgi, FoV Action Series (1st Release, incorrect with cannon - will probably remove them), and finally DeAgostini (Altaya/IXO) release!

[corgi956]

[QUOTE=condor]Why doesn't someone just say what they mean :confused: Are Corgi withdrawing the set and re-releasing them as seperates as rumoured? A simple yes or no will do.

Totally agree. People should just give the answer if they know it.

[G-force]

:eek: Nobody really knows for sure

[spock1]

[QUOTE=condor]Why doesn't someone just say what they mean :confused: Are Corgi withdrawing the set and re-releasing them as seperates as rumoured? A simple yes or no will do.

Totally agree. People should just give the answer if they know it.

:) What the Hound says it will do and what they actually do are often two entirely different things....... ;)

Word is 'Yes' some are to be released as separates but best to wait until it happens assuming of course that it does. :confused: :)

[Abbevilleslayer]

I actually have a spare JX@B which is awaiting conversion to Russkie status, but no it is not a custom job itself! Left to Right:

Corgi, FoV Action Series (1st Release, incorrect with cannon - will probably remove them), and finally DeAgostini (Altaya/IXO) release!


Is that one kind of a nightfighter version because from your photos it looks a little darker??? What kind of rating would you give this one compared to Corgi??? :D

[Rusty]

Is that one kind of a nightfighter version because from your photos it looks a little darker??? What kind of rating would you give this one compared to Corgi??? :D

As regards markings, we really are spoiled (90% of the time) by Corgi. Colours are usually just right, and my picture shows the variability between makers - Altaya a bit light, FoV a bit dark. To my eyes Corgi is the nearest to perfect.

Castings: Corgi is corgi. We all have one and it set the standard. FoV was really impressive in its detail and i must say that it improves on Corgi a little in some respects. Altaya is a notch down from Corgi and is not helped by those atrocious panel lines (especially on the Hurricane - I once vowed never to display this model), maybe once I have resprayed my spare Altaya Hurri i will be able to judge the casting a bit better!

Basic mistakes. FoV wins here hands down. Cannon Hurri in pre-war France? What were they thinking?! Still, I really really like the model and it has persuaded me to get the rest of the FoV ACTION series. Avoid the 'Enthusiast' series like the plague though (and avoid 1/32 FoV like the Plague and Birdflu and the Ebola virus put together)!

[Rusty]

On a seperate but related note. 1 SQN sets still available on the bay for around £45-£50 including P&P. May get another for Loft insulation purposes...

[G-force]

Be rude not to.

[Abbevilleslayer]

I had the pre-war france Hurri but sold it to a friend who liked the look but didn't really want to get in as deep as me, I have the Enthusiast NF Hurri and I still don't like it! Cheap way of making a plane look weathered don't you think??? I like the black they used on the underside of the France Hurri as it seems a much nicer black, almost the exact color that is on the NF planes Corgi has done, and the color FOV used for their NF Hurri looks faded and so it doens't sit with the other 3!!!

[Agent Carr]

I see that the price has down up for these sets. Really frustrated as I was going to buy one today if they were still 39.99.

[Rusty]

I see that the price has down up for these sets. Really frustrated as I was going to buy one today if they were still 39.99.

They still were an hour or so ago!

[Agent Carr]

Must look harder. Thanks.

[Sailor.]

Ummed and arred about this set for ages then read this and decided it's a must have! :eek:

"In 1968 it was the RAF's 50th birthday, yet the top brass did not se fit to mark this with any flypast, choosing instead for mere parades on the ground. Many RAF personnel were less than impressed and one Flt Lt Alan Pollock of 1(F) Squadron decided to mark the occasion in style - first with toilet-roll bombing missions against rival squadrons, and then on April 5th, while suffering from the beginnings of pneumonia which no doubt had some affect on his decision making processes, he flew his Hunter over London and at the last second decided to fly under the top span of Tower Bridge! Knowing of the consequences of his unauthorised trip, he proceeded to beat up several airfields and landed to meet his fate. It would be the end of his RAF career (he went on to run a successful exporting company), with political influences making sure he was treated incredibly unfairly - thrown out of the RAF with no right to appeal, no court martial at which he could present his case, medical evidence ignored, unable to meet with his superiors, etc. It took until 1982 for his case to be fully heard, and only then was he exonerated. Coincidentally, that same year the Hunter he had flown (XF442, which had been sold to the Chilean Air Force) was written off in an accident."

[condor]

[QUOTE=Sailor.]Ummed and arred about this set for ages then read this and decided it's a must have! :eek:
QUOTE]

You'd better be quick - These are selling fast due to all the rumours going round that only 100 sets have survived the "splitting up" process : Also heard a rumour that CFBC has most of these in his attic - being used as loft insulation :D :eek: :D ;)



Condor

[Sailor.]

"You'd better be quick"

Aye lad tha might be reet... :rolleyes:

[Lofty]

The power of the forum eh?
Set is cast asunder as a dud.....prices fall.....forum sez "buy" and prices rise... :D
Best get a head honcho from Hounds(low) on ere whippin' up a frenzy....they could clear their warehouse in minutes..... :D
The power of rumour.....

[Typhoon-MKV]

Why doesn't someone just say what they mean :confused: Are Corgi withdrawing the set and re-releasing them as seperates as rumoured? A simple yes or no will do.
Condor
As Spock has said there is a rumour knocking about at the moment that the sets could be split into the four seperate models with their own certificates and box artwork, but as yet there has been no official confirmation of this.

However as already stated if it happens then £39.99 for a set that has probably only sold about 600-1000 units in that guise is a rather nice investment.

[P51D]

Still, I really really like the model and it has persuaded me to get the rest of the FoV ACTION series. Avoid the 'Enthusiast' series like the plague though (and avoid 1/32 FoV like the Plague and Birdflu and the Ebola virus put together)!

Do you normally buy your Action series models from the bay then Rusty? I thought they were only available from the bigger USA chain stores (i.e not FM or UK dealers?)

If this is the case are they worth the hassle/postage? I'm trying to picture my FOV nightfighter hurri without it's weathering and no doubt it would look better.....but does it really make that much difference?

[Rusty]

Do you normally buy your Action series models from the bay then Rusty? I thought they were only available from the bigger USA chain stores (i.e not FM or UK dealers?)

If this is the case are they worth the hassle/postage? I'm trying to picture my FOV nightfighter hurri without it's weathering and no doubt it would look better.....but does it really make that much difference?

:cool: http://www.diecast-aviation.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=78628#post78628

[The Defiant Man]

Got this today. For £40 this is a superb set. All four models are very nice indeed.

Many thanks to Mr Spock for pointing me to the right dealer after I had missed them! :)

[neighbob]

The power of the forum eh?
Set is cast asunder as a dud.....prices fall.....forum sez "buy" and prices rise... :D
Best get a head honcho from Hounds(low) on ere whippin' up a frenzy....they could clear their warehouse in minutes..... :D
The power of rumour.....


If this is the case,

The DD Spit,N/F Hurricane and Aussie Mossie are no longer in demand and there prices are starting to plummit,they will be available for a tenner each very soon as they get dumped. :eek: :eek:


Just a rumour :D :D

[DCRanger]

If this is the case,

The DD Spit,N/F Hurricane and Aussie Mossie are no longer in demand and there prices are starting to plummit,they will be available for a tenner each very soon as they get dumped. :eek: :eek:


Just a rumour :D :D
Thing is, the way Corgi are going they are likely to be re-issued anyway! The they will hit the BINs and be a tenner after all.

[Agent X20]

The power of the forum eh?
Set is cast asunder as a dud.....prices fall.....forum sez "buy" and prices rise... :D
Best get a head honcho from Hounds(low) on ere whippin' up a frenzy....they could clear their warehouse in minutes..... :D
The power of rumour.....Naw.. power of the Lofty Agent price guide.. :D and 469 posts on a set of 2000..!

[balbrick]

Seen one going for £44 on the bay,but also a Harrier on its own for £11.dont know WHAT to do :confused:

[Agent X20]

Buy the set... use the force.... :D

[Sailor.]

Got dragged round Meadowhell straight frpm work. They'd got the No.1 Squadron set in the model shop for £99.99.... :eek:
I told the shop lad who started mithering me I needed three sets, one for each of my kids, he searched the stockroom and sadly told me they only had the one. I, equally sadly, informed him that in that case I'd have to to look elswhere. :rolleyes:

[minter]

Seen one going for £44 on the bay,but also a Harrier on its own for £11.dont know WHAT to do :confused:

use your flexible friend ..get the set

[G-force]

MESSAGE TO EVERYONE!!!!!!!!

Buy the whole set, it is fantastic. The Hurricane is the pick of the bunch though, it's absolutely beautiful, and this is coming from a jet head who only bought the set for the Meteor! The Hunter is the best one yet - by far! It is nothing less than stunning in this scheme. The Harrier is probably the best one, even better than the Falklands GR.3, and the Meteor is a nice model, although, those panel lines really are pants, but a good representation none the less.

JUST BUY ONE!!!! You'll regret it when they're gone.

[CFBC]

Hey - Nice to see someone has got the message.... :D

[G-force]

What do you think of it then CFBC?

[CFBC]

In my opinion G/F well worth the £40-£45 indeed. The Hurricane (for me) is the one to have and has been displayed whilst the other three pieces are all sat in the box still, but I think at that price..... Well, you would be a fewl not to buy a set if you have any interest in these types of planes within.... :)

[G-force]

I'm glad you think the Hurricane is good, as I am a jet head, and they're usually not my scene, but that Hurricane really has shocked me silly, it's a cracker and will take pride of place in my collection (well, along with the 29 Sqn Lightning when it comes!)
I would have kicked myself in the future if I'd seen one, and hadn't bought it.

[58warren]

Bought the set some months ago at £80 (ouch! - but then again I still thought it good value for 4 planes at the time). Originally I intended to display the Hurricane only but I rather like the other 3 models and have them out of the box and on the shelf too - which is a first for me as I normally only collect WW2 planes. :)

[Agent Carr]

I have bought one set already and it should turn up any day. I am about to buy a second as I do think it is a future start and anyway you cant really lose on £40.

[Agent X20]

Certainly not on a tenner a model.. just got to find somewhere to put it..!!

[prune]

I rather like the other 3 models and have them out of the box and on the shelf too - which is a first for me as I normally only collect WW2 planes. :)
Warren, you too are now on the road to madness and ruination :D

[G-force]

I'm that impressed, I'm probably going to buy another if I can, that is!

[prune]

You lot have got me thinking of buying this set, but I don't think I will as I'd only want it for the Hurricane and I still don't think its right.

[corgi956]

This is beginning to turn into mass hysteria lads. :)

[DCRanger]

Thing is, with all you lot rushing out to buy two sets the price is going to up. Hmmmm.... sounds like a good idea, I'll get one! :D

[plumstix]

I have just succumbed and bought one off the bay. It better be as good as you guys say!! :D

[G-force]

Oh, you'll like it Plummy, guarantee it.

[Grizzly Adams]

I have just succumbed and bought one off the bay. It better be as good as you guys say!! :D

Nah its really pants Plummy and your missus is gonna kill ya when she sees the size of the box and that you've spent the chrimbo turkey money on it :D

[G-force]

Must be some turkey in your house!!!!!!!

[Typhoon-MKV]

Just to confirm what's been said in the other thread (http://www.diecast-aviation.com/forums/showpost.php?p=79092&postcount=11) the No.1 sqn is confirmed as being split into four seperate models in the region of 1100 to 1200 run for each.

[kevjb64]

Just to confirm what's been said in the other thread (http://www.diecast-aviation.com/forums/showpost.php?p=79092&postcount=11) the No.1 sqn is confirmed as being split into four seperate models in the region of 1100 to 1200 run for each.

All this re-boxing , re-certificating , re-painting :rolleyes: ( well maybe ) probably just did not do the whole 1945 Tuck's after they realised what a ( another ) disaster they had hatched , must be costing them a fair bit .

So it sold 400 at SRP minus discount , approx . 400 dumped and the rest split .

[Agent Carr]

Just bought my second set and an Urwine Spit. Not sure what I am to tell my flat mates. No idea were I am going to store them as well.

[spock1]

Just to confirm what's been said in the other thread (http://www.diecast-aviation.com/forums/showpost.php?p=79092&postcount=11) the No.1 sqn is confirmed as being split into four seperate models in the region of 1100 to 1200 run for each.

:) 1,121 of each............ ;)

[Grizzly Adams]

Wow........... glad i got my set when i did, though tbh i reckon it'll be a long long time before the full box set gains any kinda real RRP value, as people will pick and choose the planes they want individually. Maybe only the hardcore would want a full box set and judging by those on this board most have already bought two :D

Grizz

[minter]

Just bought my second set and an Urwine Spit.

whos he?......whos selling these split 1 squadron sets?

[plumstix]

Mine arrived today, it's a corking set for the price. Anyone else had a problem with the meteor's tailplane coming off? I lifted it from the bx and top secton from the horizontal stabilisers upwards came away. It's nothing that a drop of cyano won't fix, but plastic fixed to metal like that, just wondered if anyone had had a similar issue.

[Agent Carr]

Got my first Set today. The Hurricane is really smart. What lets this set down is the poor box. A nice pic on the box would have really set the set of.

[prune]

Everyone says how good the Hurri is. As I've said more than once the Clowes Hurricane is one of the best known of the Battle of Britain and Corgi have got it TOTALLY WRONG :mad: :mad: :mad:
So how is it so good?
If I'm wrong please tell me and I'll apologise profusely and buy one. :D

[charley]

why is it wrong?.....im guessing wrong shades of colour and the roundel yellow looks a bit bright :confused: