Persian Pussycat

[sufapilot]

Not bad at all! Will definitely pony up for one. ;)

http://www.centurywings.com/model/iriaf_3-6020_1987.html

[kevjb64]

Not bad at all! Will definitely pony up for one. ;)

http://www.centurywings.com/model/iriaf_3-6020_1987.html

Yes would agree with you . I have been undecided about this one , wanted to know about the run size , have a look at it but 1500 is not a big number and scheme looks :cool . :)

[Pathfinder]

Got to admit,i pre-ordered one a bit back,perfect for my F14 collection and it might be more popular if the UN's sanctions push a certain country too far!.

[ZS-VAN]

I really like this scheme. Almost makes the USN schemes look dull. :wacko: OK, I'm outta here!!! :LOL:

[von hitchofen]

Got to admit,i pre-ordered one a bit back,perfect for my F14 collection and it might be more popular if the UN's sanctions push a certain country too far!.

looks waaaaay :cool: :cool: :cool: & already pre-ordered :D

carrying far to many Phoenixes for an Iran-Iraq war bird...usually only carried two at time ;) but you can leave them in the box I'm sure

just needs an Iraqi MiG-25 for the dogfight [more like BVR-Kill] double!

I'm as happy as Persian sandboy!

[BSG-75]

looks waaaaay :cool: :cool: :cool: & already pre-ordered :D

carrying far to many Phoenixes for an Iran-Iraq war bird...usually only carried two at time ;) but you can leave them in the box I'm sure

just needs an Iraqi MiG-25 for the dogfight [more like BVR-Kill] double!

I'm as happy as Persian sandboy!

The HM Iraqi Mig-21 is still around - will that do you ? :rolleyes: - I like this, a lot, CW have made a nice change to the usual "sundowners" & "jolly rogers", I wonder if they'll do the newer blue scheme as well ?

[von hitchofen]

I already have it, but would be nice to have only aircraft that shot down a hypersonic jet, and the jet it shot down!

Iran is the only nation to use the AIM-54A Phoenix in combat...maybe the USA has but if they did, they are keeping schtum about it! ;)

[andrewvft]

I already have it, but would be nice to have only aircraft that shot down a hypersonic jet, and the jet it shot down!

Iran is the only nation to use the AIM-54A Phoenix in combat...maybe the USA has but if they did, they are keeping schtum about it! ;)

They've used the Aim-54C twice. Both missed the target.

[Aeolus]

Given importance Iranian money had on survival of Tomcat programme as a whole, not to mention extreme sacrifice from former Shah pilots-a well deserved and fitting tribute.

[Kiwi Dave]

They've used the Aim-54C twice. Both missed the target.


Is that when 2 USN F-14s were outmanouvered by 2 Iranian C-130s?:LOL: I think the F-14s fired Sidewinders though.

[sufapilot]

Looks like these are already available...in China that is! :D

http://cgi.ebay.com/Century-wings-F-14A-IRIAF-3-6020-TFB-8-Khatami-1987-/260618065528?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Diecast_Vehicles&hash=item3cae0c1678

http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/ff01594497c212c9ee544a923df2bbf14b82d61.jpg
http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/f62253041c91bcc7106c60dda1355c06a104207.jpg

[Kubikali]

I really like this scheme. Almost makes the USN schemes look dull. :wacko: OK, I'm outta here!!! :LOL:

Your USN schemes comment is So True!

I am hardly a jetsonian, but I get drawn back to this one just too often...
That's a sign, I am sure... I know a certain Mrs who would disagreet though! :LOL:

[Cardinal]

No doubt that this Iranian F14 model will become a much sought after 'classic' but I just can't bring myself to even consider buying it ... :wacko: :eek: :D

(It deserves to be made though and kudos to CW for taking the initiative :).)

[microlight]

It looks nice , unfortunately costs way too much , and look at the gap between the canopy and fuselage - appalling for the price :mad:

Despite buying CW in the past , too much money I'm afraid ........:(

[von hitchofen]

http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/ff01594497c212c9ee544a923df2bbf14b82d61.jpg

certainly looks better than the Matchbox F14 kit I made when I was 14...with Italian markings where the Iranian roundels were! ;)

can't wait to get my hands on one

full marks to CW for taking the risk!

[muesingman]

...and look at the gap between the canopy and fuselage - appalling for the price :mad: ...(

To me it just looks like the canopy not completely closed. The canopy on my "Vandy One" closes perfectly, who should it be different with the "Ali-cats" ?

[Shawn 507]

To me it just looks like the canopy not completely closed. The canopy on my "Vandy One" closes perfectly, who should it be different with the "Ali-cats" ?

Lucky you, I had to glue mine down.

[11SQNLDR]

To me it just looks like the canopy not completely closed. The canopy on my "Vandy One" closes perfectly, who should it be different with the "Ali-cats" ?

I'm sure you are correct. I put this down to a naive seller who does not know how the canopies close on the CW Tomcats.

I have all of them and every one locks into place by being gently pushed down and slid forward - very snug:cool

[Shawn 507]

I'm sure you are correct. I put this down to a naive seller who does not know how the canopies close on the CW Tomcats.

I have all of them and every one locks into place by being gently pushed down and slid forward - very snug:cool

No, not all of them. Some need white glue or other persuading.;)

[SuperKungFu]

it's true that not all CW F-14 closes, so just put a paper in the back so it has more push to close
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/SuperKungFu/Model%20Airplane/Canopy-1.jpg

[microlight]

Thanks for the info , glad to see it's not an unknown fault , but for the price of the model you shouldn't need to fix it yourself :(

[11SQNLDR]

No, not all of them. Some need white glue or other persuading.;)

:eek: NO!! You are correct Shawn - I don't have all of them... some other buyers snapped up a few strays:wacko: :D

But I have one of each of all they have made and all of mine have nicely closing canopies. Lucky lucky me:rolleyes: :LOL:

[Scottuk]

:eek: NO!! You are correct Shawn - I don't have all of them... some other buyers snapped up a few strays:wacko: :D

But I have one of each of all they have made and all of mine have nicely closing canopies. Lucky lucky me:rolleyes: :LOL:

I also have one of each (with one exception) and all the canopies close perfectly well when I want them to.:D

[tu154]

Ali Cat is a winner!!!

[Scuba11]

Managed to see one in the flesh at Farnborough this week, ARD had them along with the new A6 and 3 A7's.
Quick snap through the display glass:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/Arno01/percat1a.jpg

I think ARD air frieght them in, should be at all other dealers in the UK in the next few weeks :D

[ZS-VAN]

The Tomcat does look pretty good in that scheme.

[sufapilot]

The Tomcat does look pretty good in that scheme.

Roger that!

[11SQNLDR]

Purrrrrrrr!!!!:cool:

[von hitchofen]

Gary from Tigers Hobbies thrust the Century Wings IRIAF F14A into my sweaty hands at Duxford and I can assure you it is as good as the pictures suggest:cool:

even though I'm biased and have wanted one for years

I was also allowed to fondle the F111 pre-pro and the infamous "swing-wing gap" isn't as pronounced as it appears

however in both cases there is still scope for the manufacturers to balls it up!:rolleyes:

[Dakota]

I for one have got every thing crossed that they don't mess these exciting new releases up! :rolleyes:

I also saw the pair of them at Legends and was very impressed, so much so that i've already cleared some room for them! :o

[kevjb64]

Looks very :cool , was personally so BORED with CW but this has changed that , on pre-order . :)

[Cardinal]

... the 'Persian' F14 still does absolutely nothing for me - no accounting for taste I suppose :LOL: (All the more for you lot who want one - enoy! :))

[Shawn 507]

... the 'Persian' F14 still does absolutely nothing for me - no accounting for taste I suppose :LOL: (All the more for you lot who want one - enoy! :))

Ditto. The only Tomcats I want to see shot out of the sky.

[Cardinal]

Ditto. The only Tomcats I want to see shot out of the sky.

... a damaged 'smoldering ruin' version of this particular model may be perfectly suited for a desert diorama ...

[Shawn 507]

... a damaged 'smoldering ruin' version of this particular model may be perfectly suited for a desert diorama ...

Next to a chopped up Avro Arrow.;) :LOL:

[Cardinal]

Next to a chopped up Avro Arrow.;) :LOL:

Now that is just 'plane' nasty ... BTW the Avro Arrow is a beautiful piece of diecast :cool and quite possibly one of a kind with the range possibly having a future akin to the real thing! :unsure:

[dilligafocau]

Now that is just 'plane' nasty ... BTW the Avro Arrow is a beautiful piece of diecast :cool and quite possibly one of a kind with the range possibly having a future akin to the real thing! :unsure:

He gets like that :LOL:

[Cardinal]

He gets like that :LOL:

All those hard Airborne landings undoubtedly take their toll ... :LOL:

[Shawn 507]

All those hard Airborne landings undoubtedly take their toll ... :LOL:

Yea they say the same thing when I bitched about Fugly Saab jets too.:cool

[Cardinal]

All those hard Airborne landings undoubtedly take their toll ... :LOL:

You clearly misunderstood what I meant Shawn as I was merely implying that those hard Airborne landings serve to sharpen the senses and wit as well as enhancing both temperament and mental reflexes ... :D :LOL:

Yea they say the same thing when I bitched about Fugly Saab jets too.:cool

Didn't follow that particular thread (what's a SAAB anyway and should anyone actually care ;) :LOL: ).

[sufapilot]

Let's not turn this thread into SAAB jets suck-fest! :mad:

Yea they say the same thing when I bitched about Fugly Saab jets too.:cool

[Cardinal]

Let's not turn this thread into SAAB jets suck-fest! :mad:


C'mon Sufapilot, the comments made are pretty much 'tongue in cheek' and every aircraft - no matter how 'challenged' in the looks department - deserves to be immortalised in diecast (even SAAB jets) ;) :) :D

[dilligafocau]

Must agree with Cards', lots of throw-away lines used here and there, all in good humour ( I trust ). It helps to have a thick skin too, just don't give people permission to burrow under it ;)

[Shawn 507]

Let's not turn this thread into SAAB jets suck-fest! :mad:

Not sure how to take that one.:unsure: Wrong forum perhaps.;)

[von hitchofen]

... the 'Persian' F14 still does absolutely nothing for me - no accounting for taste I suppose :LOL: (All the more for you lot who want one - enoy! :))

Ditto. The only Tomcats I want to see shot out of the sky.

wouldn't fancy any current USN jets chances against an Iranian Tomcat...which is why the US is too scared to attack Iran :p

F22 would do okay I should think :unsure:

only six IRIAF Tomcats were lost in eight years of combat, two of those blue-on-blues [rubbish Hawk SAM, I blame Olly North]

IRIAF Tomcats have a kill ratio of 1 lost for every 25 e/a shot down:cool: beat that!

classy fliers and like the Finns in WW2, massively underated

remember "the only replacement for an F14 Tomcat, is another F14 Tomcat"

[DCRanger]

wouldn't fancy any current USN jets chances against an Iranian Tomcat...which is why the US is too scared to attack Iran :p
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Incoming!! :LOL:

[BSG-75]

Incoming!! :LOL:

Model wise, mine is on pre-order, it will sit with my Iraqi Mig-21, politics wise, ummm, you'd like to think the USN can spoof the F-14 even with local upgrades etc, then again.....
who cares !? wonderful aircraft (RAF should have had them rather than the Tonka) and the only thing I want more than this one is an up to date "blue" Iranian F-14!

[kevjb64]

Model wise, mine is on pre-order, it will sit with my Iraqi Mig-21, politics wise, ummm, you'd like to think the USN can spoof the F-14 even with local upgrades etc, then again.....
who cares !? wonderful aircraft (RAF should have had them rather than the Tonka) and the only thing I want more than this one is an up to date "blue" Iranian F-14!

Yes I am pretty F14'd out in my collection but I may squeeze in that one as well . :)

[von hitchofen]

Incoming!! :LOL:

I love the smell of outraged Yanks in the morning, shall I say that the Vietnamese People's Air Force had better aeroplanes and pilots too;)

oooh I just did:LOL:

wonderful aircraft (RAF should have had them rather than the Tonka) and the only thing I want more than this one is an up to date "blue" Iranian F-14!

many a true word....I wonder if CW will do a 2010 scheme IRIAF F14 if the Iran-Iraq war one sells out :unsure:

hope so:D

[Cardinal]

I speak under correction here but I read somewhere a long time ago that the biggest 'weakness' of the undeniably superb Tomcat was the maintenance cost and high maintenance time versus flight time ratio (for every 1hr of flight time there was an ungodly amount of maintenance time required - can't remember how much though and not sure how it compares with other jets :unsure: ).

[BSG-75]

I speak under correction here but I read somewhere a long time ago that the biggest 'weakness' of the undeniably superb Tomcat was the maintenance cost and high maintenance time versus flight time ratio (for every 1hr of flight time there was an ungodly amount of maintenance time required - can't remember how much though and not sure how it compares with other jets :unsure: ).

Sounds about right, the engines were never fully developed and it was underpowered until the "plus" and the "D" were introduced. Had the USAF taken the F-14 for the NORAD role (for which it was far better suited than the F-15) and the production run been longer then the problems would have all been ironed out. (he said with rose tinted glasses, F-14 is a personal favourite of mine)

[tu154]

60 man hours for 1 flight hour for Tomcat and just 15 hours for the same for Hornet...

[Cardinal]

60 man hours for 1 flight hour for Tomcat and just 15 hours for the same for Hornet...

Sounds about right :wacko: - thanks for clarifying :).

[tu154]

Always glad to help:)

[PhantomBigStu]

whoever said the RAF should Have had the tomcat over the Tonka should be fed through a mangle :mad:

[BSG-75]

whoever said the RAF should Have had the tomcat over the Tonka should be fed through a mangle :mad:

That's a bit harsh, and I did say I was looking with rose tinted glasses....

[PhantomBigStu]

my glasses are somewhat more than rose tinted when it comes to British designs, but it also comes from common sense, no way could we afford the Tomcat, we couldn't really afford the tornado or eurofighter

[BSG-75]

my glasses are somewhat more than rose tinted when it comes to British designs, but it also comes from common sense, no way could we afford the Tomcat, we couldn't really afford the tornado or eurofighter

I know the cost would have been crazy, even without the Phoenix, but it is my favourite (jet) aircraft, and oddly enough the Tonka is one of my least liked !:rolleyes:

[kevjb64]

I have got to get into this ' rose tinted ' glasses market , we are all wearing them in some way or another , the profit potential must be great . :rolleyes: :D

[von hitchofen]

Sounds about right, the engines were never fully developed and it was underpowered until the "plus" and the "D" were introduced

there's an Iranian Tomcat jockey that claims the TF30 killed more IRIAF Tomcat aircrew than the Iraqis

even a perfectly maintained one wasn't even 90% reliable so imagine flying a F14A with two engines maintained under sanctions with parts obtained by subterfuge:eek: :wacko:

truly heroic - unless were there high stakes involved you wouldn't do it

the IRIAF was complete game-changer as far as the Iran-Iraq wars was concerned, covering up the multiple incompetences of the Iranian Army and the maniacs in charge of Iran to this day

never before has single aircraft type so dramatically affected the course of a war and world history

Saddam Hussein would have been in Teheran in six months without it, and Iraq would have been the dominant power in the Middle East :eek: :wacko:

not a very enticing thought is it:unsure:

[kevjb64]

Saddam Hussein would have been in Teheran in six months without it, and Iraq would have been the dominant power in the Middle East :eek: :wacko:

not a very enticing thought is it:unsure:

Not much in it is there , Imadinnerlady ( sorry can never remember his proper name) is maybe 1 or 2 % less phsycotic and the religious chappies kill about the same amount of their own people on a regular basis . ;)

[von hitchofen]

Imadinnerlady ( sorry can never remember his proper name) is maybe 1 or 2 % less phsycotic and the religious chappies kill about the same amount of their own people on a regular basis . ;)

its just as well Armoured-dinnerjacket or wotsisname is largely powerless - all the important decisions are made by Khamenei [not Khomemei, he's dead ;) ]

I'm hard-pressed to think of any middle-eastern country that doesn't slaughter, oppress and torture its citizenry [and anyone else's if the money's right]

no-one gets worked up into a frenzy over diecast Israeli F15s, do they:D

or foams at the mouth over the Ostfront 109s & 190s that made genocide possible

keep politics and religion out of :cool: -looking diecast aeroplanes in this case I reckon :LOL:

[david cotton]

My Persian Pussycat arrived today......ye gods Jumblies are quick at the moment :) check out to ding dong on the door bell.....less than 48 hours :cool

Well this was definitively a model worth getting. Great looks and combat history (thanks for the info Von Hitch) :)

Think I may just get the Osprey book on the Iran F14.....or at least read it in the book shop :o

I have opted not to put the missile pads on the underside. just got the normal thin pointy missiles on the underside. The pads don't fit flush very well.

The paint job looks very war like and different. Kind of nice not to have the macho nose tail art.

CW stands are excellent..... they hold the aircraft at a good angle and do not over power the model :)

[BSG-75]

It really is a nice bit of kit isn't it ? The CW F-14's are superb, but pricey.... but you pays your money and you takes your choices....

The Osprey book is well worth a punt (as mentioned before, if only to check out the new blue scheme..... come on CW..... :rolleyes: )

[david cotton]

It really is a nice bit of kit isn't it ? The CW F-14's are superb, but pricey.... but you pays your money and you takes your choices....


They are a bit pricey at that. I remember them being £32 :eek: I did not buy them because I thought they can't be that good for that price. However, I was impressed when I got a couple.

The blue Iran F14, looks very nice. I think 3-6020 was later painted this blue :unsure:

[Christian]

whoever said the RAF should Have had the tomcat over the Tonka should be fed through a mangle :mad:

Been reading this thread, a good one.

Notwithstanding the unit price (although doin the development yaself aint cheap either) didn't the Tonka have similar underpowered engine problems when it went into service. In addition it also had initial serviceability problems (very short engine life span) with the RB 199 engine that needed a fortune to be spent to fix.

I dont recall whether the underpower issue was ever fixed, although I do recall when the ADV entered service it was an issue.

The CW Iranian is a beauty of a model, very very curious to see how the upcoming HM products do.

[Virtual_pilot]

the HM f-4 IRAN is no less beauty than the CW F-14 IRIAF. Get both if you can.

[Christian]

the HM f-4 IRAN is no less beauty than the CW F-14 IRIAF. Get both if you can.

I agree wholeheartedly and I will. ;)

[BSG-75]

They are a bit pricey at that. I remember them being £32 :eek: I did not buy them because I thought they can't be that good for that price. However, I was impressed when I got a couple.

The blue Iran F14, looks very nice. I think 3-6020 was later painted this blue :unsure:

I picked up a "Pukin' Dogs" CW one at Legends for £45 and I was chuffed to bits ! (and ran away before they changed their minds...)

Given that there are only two nations to offer, I think CW may do a blue one, then again they only did one USAF A-7 so who knows !? :confused:

[Christian]

I picked up a "Pukin' Dogs" CW one at Legends for £45 and I was chuffed to bits ! (and ran away before they changed their minds...)

Given that there are only two nations to offer, I think CW may do a blue one, then again they only did one USAF A-7 so who knows !? :confused:

Thats gotta be one of the top three Diecast mysteries at the moment?? :wacko: :confused:

[Cardinal]

Thats gotta be one of the top three Diecast mysteries at the moment?? :wacko: :confused:

... the other two would be ...? :unsure: :D

[Christian]

... the other two would be ...? :unsure: :D


Where the hell is the A20?? :mad:

HM's contemporary humdinger blues. :wacko: :confused:

Maybe a good thread, what do you reckon Cardo??

[Cardinal]

Where the hell is the A20?? :mad:

HM's contemporary humdinger blues. :wacko: :confused:

Maybe a good thread, what do you reckon Cardo??

I'm just worried that the thread would be locked quickly given the potential of what Kev may say about the machinations of Corgi, HM and the diecast trade in general ... many mysteries still to be unlocked there methinks ;) :D :LOL:.

[Christian]

I'm just worried that the thread would be locked quickly given the potential of what Kev may say about the machinations of Corgi, HM and the diecast trade in general ... many mysteries still to be unlocked there methinks ;) :D :LOL:.


Perhaps if we just stick with models then. :)

Ya probably right though. ;)

[kevjb64]

... the other two would be ...? :unsure: :D

my guess for second would be the failure of HM to yet do a standard day cammo beaufighter . :confused: :confused: As to number 3 , no idea ?? :unsure: :)

[kevjb64]

I'm just worried that the thread would be locked quickly given the potential of what Kev may say about the machinations of Corgi, HM and the diecast trade in general ... many mysteries still to be unlocked there methinks ;) :D :LOL:.

Are you suggesting that some may try and get a thread stopped just because it contains a truth they would rater some not know ?? :unsure: :wacko: :rolleyes: :D There are some right old humdingers out there , even concerning the recent price adjustments . ;)

[Christian]

Are you suggesting that some may try and get a thread stopped just because it contains a truth they would rater some not know ?? :unsure: :wacko: :rolleyes: :D There are some right old humdingers out there , even concerning the recent price adjustments . ;)


I dont think he is suggesting that at all mate. :)

Certainly I have not observed that type of behaviour on this forum when such discussion is in place. :unsure:

[kevjb64]

I dont think he is suggesting that at all mate. :)

Certainly I have not observed that type of behaviour on this forum when such discussion is in place. :unsure:

That is because most of the posts threads of some years back are no longer here . :rolleyes: ;) :D

Be rather nice if I could spell rater as well mind you !! :o :o :D

[Christian]

That is because most of the posts threads of some years back are no longer here . :rolleyes: ;) :D

Be rather nice if I could spell rater as well mind you !! :o :o :D

Um, bugger I missed the good old days. :p

Yeah, got ya covered there mate, I knew what you were on about. ;)

[kevjb64]

Um, bugger I missed the good old days. :p

Yeah, got covered there mate, I knew what you were on about. ;)

Yes shows you how bad some got , they did not just shut them down they removed them totally in case members under a certain age stumbled upon them . :rolleyes: :D ;)

[Christian]

Yes shows you how bad some got , they did not just shut them down they removed them totally in case members under a certain age stumbled upon them . :rolleyes: :D ;)

Did ya end up getting the Allycat Kev??

[kevjb64]

Did ya end up getting the Allycat Kev??

Yep , I had it pre-ordered as it was so different to the others they had done , I was a tad bored by time I had mm , maybe 6-8 grey ones , the Vandy is :cool as well . Looks like I will get the F-5 to join it as most seem happy with the pre-pro pics . :)

[Cardinal]

Are you suggesting that some may try and get a thread stopped just because it contains a truth they would rater some not know ?? :unsure: :wacko: :rolleyes: :D There are some right old humdingers out there , even concerning the recent price adjustments . ;)


... just doin' a spot of fishin' in the forum cyberpond ... ;) :LOL: