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ACES

28th March 2005, 14:30

ACES

28th March 2005, 14:34

Forgot this bit, :o does anybody know the reason for the blacked out turret on the actual aircraft.

Angels one-five

28th March 2005, 14:55

Forgot this bit, :o does anybody know the reason for the blacked out turret on the actual aircraft.

The Lib was a special conversion operated (along with converted Fortresses) to provide electronic countermeasures in support of bomber operations. If you look on the nose of the aircraft, you will see lightning strikes rather than bomb symbols which highlight its role. If you follow this link http://www.rafweb.org/Sqn221-225.htm, there is more information on the history of 223 Sqn.

Grizzly Adams

28th March 2005, 15:00

Have to agree Aces m8, was very disappointed with this Lib. I ummed and arreeed about it and decided not to go for it in the end. Shame cos i thought it was gonna compliment my Coastal Command B24 lovely.

Grizz

NeilD

28th March 2005, 15:59

Hmm why didnt they just do a 'normal' Lib. in a night scheme like this.. :confused:

http://www.acseac.co.uk/gallery/index.php?action=showpic&cat=19&pic=236

ACES

28th March 2005, 16:31

Hmm why didnt they just do a 'normal' Lib. in a night scheme like this.. :confused:

http://www.acseac.co.uk/gallery/index.php?action=showpic&cat=19&pic=236

A model of that Lib would have been just great NeilD and i bet a good seller.

philminnion

28th March 2005, 19:44

Hmm why didnt they just do a 'normal' Lib. in a night scheme like this.. :confused:

http://www.acseac.co.uk/gallery/index.php?action=showpic&cat=19&pic=236

That wouldn't work. Take a look at the upper gun turret - its in an entirely different place than Corgi's D Liberator molding and is a four gun unit. I don't know how many people noticed that the Lancaster VR-F is not "right" either. The original VR-F - the one that crashed had a standard turret. The one flying today has a Martin turret but it is further forward to address centre of gravity issues. In this case, Corgi would have done better to model the original aircraft - it would have been more accurate.

At least this Liberator that is modelled is accurate. That said, I don't much care for it either. The blacked out turret just sort of jars. However, it is what the orginal aircraft had so it is accurate. You just can't win.

Phil

The Defiant Man

28th March 2005, 20:32

I reckon i will wait and see if they drop it down to £30 notes like PPM.

Won't be a long wait. Only the CC Lib costs reasonably more....all the rest are there or thereabouts.

charley

28th March 2005, 20:44

A nice 'All Black' Carpetbaggers version would be mint!!! :D

Great museum by the way, near Sywell Northants, on the Way to Kettering! Worth a visit! ;)

To get back on thread... it has £30 written all over it... :rolleyes:

CFBC

28th March 2005, 20:53

Ive not seen this latest version as yet on offer, but looking at the postings and the catalogue..... A great shame..... :(

kevjb64

28th March 2005, 21:20

I hope not , I don't want a box with writing all over it .

Originally posted by charley .it has £30 written all over it.

This will of course be under corgi's new stock procedure ( i.e a release later than 31/12/2004 , I wonder were the first two wimpeys will fall , they are in the 2nd half 2004 but we did not see them till 2005 ? ) , so unless a retailer wants to sell his stock off cheaply we won't see £30 until Dec 2005 and then in a plain box .

Hoverbug

28th March 2005, 21:47

Personally, I think it's great that some of the more obscure aspects of the "Wizard War" are being represented with this aircraft. Sure it's not as eye-catching as some other schemes, but Corgi has my vote for delving into a less appreciated aspect of the war.

charley

28th March 2005, 21:56

we won't see £30 until Dec 2005 and then in a plain box .

Plain boxes! Excellent....might be able to dodge the naff artwork on the boxes!!!! :rolleyes:

kevjb64

28th March 2005, 22:01

You could design yer own and sell em as an ' aftermarket add on ' .

charley

28th March 2005, 22:02

:D Commissioned boxes!!! :D

goonybird

28th March 2005, 23:14

Problem coming up guys is that you'll end up with a loft full of white boxes, and won't know what's in em :D

charley

28th March 2005, 23:21

Can you imagine the meeting where that idea was floated :rolleyes: wait a minute.....meeting....naah don't be so silly :rolleyes:

kevjb64

29th March 2005, 00:06

Originally posted by goonybird .Problem coming up guys is that you'll end up with a loft full of white boxes, and won't know what's in em .

Not a lot of difference to the current problem really , a loft full of cardboard delivery boxes ( with AA boxes within ) that I cannot remember whats in em and a garage full of large plastic boxes ( with AA boxes
within ) that I cannot get to ( especially those at the back which I have not seen for a couple of years ) and cannot remember what is in them .

kevjb64

29th March 2005, 00:22

Originally posted by charley .Commissioned boxes!!!

You could be on to a winner here , only available to customers who can prove they brought a model in a white box , limited to 1 a customer ( due to huge anticipated demand ) , box guaranteed to be different to what the customer originally thought he was purchasing etc etc . !!!!

simonclarke1034

29th March 2005, 07:45

FM have some pictures of the new RAF Liberator! :)

Johnny Red

29th March 2005, 10:43

What a dissapointment :( i really fancied this new Lib,but came away from Manchester MZ empty handed,IMHO its one of the first times the pic in the catologue looks better than the actual model for instance it does not show the blacked out front turret with no guns.

I reckon i will wait and see if they drop it down to £30 notes like PPM.

They still have in stock the CHC Mossie for sale there if anybody is still after one.

Agreed. I would have had one at near to full price based on the brochure picture had the actual model not ended up looking so macabre. ( I'm sure it's accurate but man is it ugly). I had the same thought with the Caldwell spitfire when I realised that the actual model (as opposed to the brochure picture) has one of those big ugly intake filters that, whilst accurate and in reality functional, to me totally ruin the lines of the aircraft.

philminnion

29th March 2005, 23:52

What a dissapointment :( i really fancied this new Lib,but came away from Manchester MZ empty handed,IMHO its one of the first times the pic in the catologue looks better than the actual model for instance it does not show the blacked out front turret with no guns.

I reckon i will wait and see if they drop it down to £30 notes like PPM.

They still have in stock the CHC Mossie for sale there if anybody is still after one.

I had a similar reaction when I first saw the photographs of the aircraft on Flying Mule. The blacked out gun turret was such a surprise that it sort of completely put me off. That was because it was so unexpected. However, upon reflection and reading up on the aircraft and the early days of electronic countermeasures, the aircraft is kind of growing on me. Certainly it is accurate and very different from all the other Libs (except for the Coastal Command). The livery is very good. You know, it just might be one of those rare birds that becomes extremely popular. Our initial reactions might be wrong in this case.

Phil

Albert Ross

30th March 2005, 00:45

NeilD

30th March 2005, 02:56

As I have always said, you can please some of the people some of the time....etc., etc. I chose that RAF Liberator because it was just a bit different with the blacked out turret (box model prototype error again!) rather than just a run-of-the-mill machine with usual turret. As you pointed out, there are many uses for the Lib during WW2 rather than just dropping bombs. Now, whose for an Indian Air Force silver one? :rolleyes:

yep its OK going with something a little 'off the wall' but would be nice to do a 'normal' scheme for those that maybe just want to buy one of each model line and so would rather have a more representative colour scheme first..? having said that, a Silver Indian AF one sounds interesting too.. :eek:
Neil.
ps - Coastal Command one yet to be beat!

Agent X20

30th March 2005, 07:03

So thats another half dozen Liberators for 2005 part 2... :D :D :D

condor

30th March 2005, 07:06

Typhoon-MKV

30th March 2005, 07:08

Actually yes - was surprised to read it's only 1400 run, perhaps the message is getting through, although as it's a Lib, I am sure it will still hit the dump bins :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Agent X20

30th March 2005, 07:18

Tricatus's pictures of the model really do it justice. One of the better B24's and one for the list of must haves for me ;)
Condor

Cant see more than the pre pro shot...

charley

30th March 2005, 07:18

As I have always said, you can please some of the people some of the time....etc., etc. I chose that RAF Liberator because it was just a bit different with the blacked out turret (box model prototype error again!) rather than just a run-of-the-mill machine with usual turret. As you pointed out, there are many uses for the Lib during WW2 rather than just dropping bombs. Now, whose for an Indian Air Force silver one? :rolleyes:

I mistook it for a Halifax at first glance upon release!!! :eek:

Carpetbaggers all black scheme would be unusual....go down a storm on here...these boys love their all black aeroplanes!!!! :rolleyes:

simonclarke1034

30th March 2005, 07:43

Just seen some good pictures of the RAF Liberator on Tricatus. Actually I quite like this Lib, the more I look at it the more it's growing on me too. :D

kevjb64

30th March 2005, 09:02

Originally posted by Agent X20 .So thats another half dozen Liberators for 2005 part 2..

The way the production of the Lib's has been handled IMHO has really been the eye opener for many about what is wrong with Corgi sales / marketing strategy in general . These points have been covered in other threads in some detail so no point in going back over them . So lets not encourage Corgi to continue tightning the knot on the suicide rope , the Lib. mould is well overdue for a long long rest ( about 2008-2009 should do it ) !!

kevjb64

30th March 2005, 09:18

Originally posted by Albert Ross .Now, whose for an Indian Air Force silver one?

I thought it was only 10 gross of yellow paint delboy sold the chinese but with all the different silver models that one factory is turning out , I reckon del , rodney and uncle albert have unloaded a fair bit more of silver too em ( lovely jubbly )

philminnion

30th March 2005, 19:36

Like most of you guys, I was a little bit ataken back when I first saw this B24 in the flesh. But its actually grown on me. Tricatus's pictures of the model really do it justice. One of the better B24's and one for the list of must haves for me ;)

Condor

Well, I got over the blacked out nose turret in a hurry and really got to like this Lib. When I saw in the flesh, it was bought and now takes pride of place alongside the CC Lib. It is a good job and well done Albert! We would not have been surprised at the blacked out turret had we done our research of the aircraft ahead of release. Then everyone would have given accolades to Corgi for getting it right instead of whinging about the blacked out turret.

Cheers everyone

Phil

Lofty

30th March 2005, 20:50

No rush to purchase as i have about 7 Libby's already or however many squillions they've produced :o

shuttle

30th March 2005, 22:47

This is one Lib I will buy as I think it is a very interesting subject. I saw one in M/Z on Saturday and it looked the business. 100 group deserve the accolade of having a model in their colours. Bring on a 100 group Mossie!!

:) Shuttle

no4mkit

31st March 2005, 08:21

I'm partial to Bomber Command so I like the model.

Martin Streetly's excellent book "The Aircraft of 100 Group" speaks to the blacked out turret issue. according to it, 223 Sqn received 30 second hand B-24's from the 8th AF and since head on interceptions were very rare on night ops, they removed the guns and faired the turrets into the airframe using doped canvas. There were two side benefits to this. The aircraft's handling was noticably improved, and the navigators compartment was far less drafty.

But I'm afraid there's a few misses in the model:

The book states that all of the unit's aircraft had the astrodome removed and faired over with a metal plate.

The large dorsal Jostle transmitter aerial is missing.

Also absent is the single 50 cal. belly gun that sat in a window replacing the rear entry hatch. This was necessary because;

the standard ball turret was deleted (but is on the model) and its space used by the Jostle transmitter.

I don't mean to pick on Corgi with all of this as I still think it's a nice model, but if they can put all of the aerials on the Coastal Command Lib, why not the one that defines this important type?

Aeronut

31st March 2005, 08:28

Just another lash up from Corgi then, seems we,ve been down this road before, seems to be the only road we go down now, think it's time a few people moved on at Corgi, then they may stop making c**p models :mad:

maple 01

31st March 2005, 10:03

Agent X20

31st March 2005, 10:15

I'm too cr@p to do a proper job
...I get those feelings specially this time of the year.... :D :D :D

This aint one of Alberts then...!! :D :D :D

Lofty

31st March 2005, 20:49

No rush to purchase as i have about 7 Libby's already or however many squillions they've produced :o
Thinkin' 'bout it must be closer to 11 :eek:

Aeronut

31st March 2005, 21:27

Aww, come on! Give Corgi a break! Personally I collect them because I'm too cr@p to do a proper job with the plastic stuff - I can put up with a few mistakes, inaccuracies and mark/variant fudging if it results in half-decent models on the shelf

-In a good mood today, might get back to the bitching later.

Edited for cr@p spelling

But it's not just a few mistakes, just about every model that Corgi now make has a major cock up on it, and Corgi couldn't care less, all that matters now is how many different models they can bang out from the same old casting, wether it's correct or not doesn,t matter, just keep them coming, someone will buy it and think it's a lovely model, stick your models on the shelf stand about twenty feet away and you'll never see all the cock-ups they have :mad:

ACES

2nd April 2005, 17:49

One just sold on ebay for £47 ..... :eek:

philminnion

7th April 2005, 22:28

I was just messing about with the RAF Liberator. I know that the real plane had a belly gun in the entrance hatch and no ball turret at all. That said, the model does and it would be nice to get the fricking thing to drop down. It swivels but doesn't want to move up. I don't want to force it as I don't want to snap the guns off. Has anyone had any problems like this with their Libs and how did you deal with it. No crash landings please!

Phil Minnion

DCRanger

7th April 2005, 22:37

I had that problem with both of my Libs. You just gotta pull a bit harder (and wait for the comments about pulling and other inuendo). :D

ACES

7th April 2005, 23:13

philminnion

8th April 2005, 05:19

Phil the ball turret does not drop down very much about 1/8" max,so be carefull its not like the forts.I thought the same as you but ended up snapping the guns clean off. :mad:

Thank you for that. Very good to know. 1/8 of an inch is not much so I think I will leave well enough alone. It isn't really broken now but if I snap the guns off, it certainly will be! And then I will be B*****y F####g Mad. Why do we collect these things anyway? I ask myself that everytime I go to the store and then I go away with another three. It is a sad addiction. I am waiting for my McKnight Hurricane. That one apparently has disappointed no-one. I also think the 1/32nd Hurricane will be worth waiting for. I like all of the 109s.

Phil Minnion

kevjb64

14th April 2005, 11:04

Mine arrived this morning and I was pleasantly surprised , I really like it ( which is handy as I probably paid about £20 too much for it ) . It nudges U Cawn't Miss it out of 3rd place , leaving CC still 1st and S/B 2nd . The reason I paid up a bit ( though still a 40% saving on SRP ) is apart from 1 or 2 cheapies on the bay have not seen that many about .

simonclarke1034

17th April 2005, 18:09

You are right Kev, theres not that many about, even on the old bay. :) Have got mine on order and am hopefully picking it up next weekend. Wait for it, ill get mine and then loads will appear! Quite a low run with this one which is good, and I also think it will look good beside my Lancs and the Welli (NOT the GF). :D

kevjb64

17th April 2005, 18:44

You are right Kev, theres not that many about, even on the old bay. :) Have got mine on order and am hopefully picking it up next weekend. Wait for it, ill get mine and then loads will appear!

Must be your turn , I've had mine almost 4 days and that usually means a dozen have appeared on the bay @ at least a £10 cheaper but not yet !!

Gambit

1st May 2005, 23:35

Got mine today after having to wait as the first ones along with the B17 (Bit O Lace) went in just one day. They are still widely available in the States but haven't seen that many on e-bay.
The ball turret works just fine on the one I got.
I'd like to see a polished version next to go with "Sentimental Journey"

CFBC

2nd May 2005, 07:53

Whats this Libbie like guys....? :)

kevjb64

2nd May 2005, 10:20

Whats this Libbie like guys....? :)

IMPO it rates 3RD place on the leader board , behind CC and S/B .Currently making £45ish on the bay but @ 1400 have not seen that many about .Only been 3 cheapies on the bay so far ( I mean under SRP minus usual percentage discounts ).

Gambit

2nd May 2005, 14:50

I'd probably place it in the top 5 (PPM, SB, Oulton and Dragon) in no particular order but with CC as the leader. :)

CFBC

2nd May 2005, 21:00

Thanks to Simonclarke for sending us the pictures below... I see from the postings below that you guys like this one.... Hmmm. Let you know in a few days..... :)

Does look good...

Martin Bull

2nd May 2005, 21:02

At last ! :) A Hali.....ooops ! Sorry....... :( :rolleyes:

ACES

2nd May 2005, 21:15

I reckon you either love it or hate it :confused: ,but going off the pics a Halifax would look brill.

charley

2nd May 2005, 21:37

Oh for a Halifax :( If you glance very quickly.......closest we'll get no doubt :(

As for it being Lib....Not one for me thanks.

minter

3rd May 2005, 08:18

hali would be great, but with which engines ?

Agent X20

3rd May 2005, 09:36

Hercules please...

minter

3rd May 2005, 10:29

not a MKII with merlins?

Agent X20

3rd May 2005, 10:31

Naw a nice square tailed radial engined Mk III with stripes and prickly exhausts..

minter

3rd May 2005, 10:38

wouldnt mind seeing a lanc done with this engine

Martin Bull

3rd May 2005, 12:39

Absolutely - a nice radial-engined Halley with those big 'barn door' tailfins - 'Friday the Thirteenth'....mmmmmm...oops, better watch out, gone a bit O/T here...... ;)

kevjb64

9th May 2005, 18:07

There is an Oulton currently on the bay with a BIN of £65 , for those showing an interest earlier .

kevjb64

23rd July 2005, 14:26

One of these is currently £77 bid with 20 odd hours to go , who would have believed it a popular liberator ! :eek:

charley

23rd July 2005, 14:38

Closest thing we'll ever get to a Halifax!!! :rolleyes: £77 is Madness!!! Oh Well......

Lofty

23rd July 2005, 16:05

Early days yet.....give it 6 months + and its gonna be £30-£40 like all the rest ;)
Keep ya nerves boys!

kevjb64

23rd July 2005, 16:55

Early days yet.....give it 6 months + and its gonna be £30-£40 like all the rest ;)
Keep ya nerves boys!

Its been out a good few months already though . :eek:

Marky_ncl

23rd July 2005, 19:34

Closest thing we'll ever get to a Halifax!!! :rolleyes: £77 is Madness!!! Oh Well......

How is £77 madness???

The R.R.P is £99.99.

Mark.

charley

23rd July 2005, 19:49

Apologies Marky, I ment in respect of the typical prices Liberators tend to go for :o

Marky_ncl

23rd July 2005, 23:51

Apologies Marky, I ment in respect of the typical prices Liberators tend to go for :o

I think with this Liberator the price may stay stable for quite a while as there doesn't seem to be that many of them about.

And no I don't think Corgi have loads of them hidden!!!

Mark.

simonclarke1034

24th July 2005, 07:36

I think you might be right Marky as it has a very low run number which doe's attract the buyer. It has a run of 1400 and to me is a very nice model, one of my favourites! :)

strix1998

24th July 2005, 09:35

Have not seen this one below £65 anywhere and have dealt at this price to a void disappointmen. Interesting that both US B24 pieces "Michigan" and Jerk's Natural" have been seen a good bit lower!

Typhoon-MKV

24th July 2005, 09:39

Its been out a good few months already though . :eek:

Yes - February I think.

Agent X20

24th July 2005, 14:54

I think with this Liberator the price may stay stable for quite a while as there doesn't seem to be that many of them about.

And no I don't think Corgi have loads of them hidden!!!

Mark.They must be somewhere... Mr Wong has made em... (unless they only made 500 or so... which is a tactic I would use..).. best then to wait and see... like Blue PRU Mossies... it'll be nowt, then no doubt they will be all over the place at giveaway prices.. 1400 is still a lot for a large box... theres only 1300 Capital Viscounts, but there was one at the Toyfair the other day for a fiver.. :rolleyes:

Lofty

24th July 2005, 15:18

Its a Liberator......its gonna fall.....just a case of when.
Lofty Towers has been snowed under with Libs so really not that fussed :p

condor

24th July 2005, 15:49

Have not seen this one below £65 anywhere and have dealt at this price to a void disappointmen. Interesting that both US B24 pieces "Michigan" and Jerk's Natural" have been seen a good bit lower!

Saw one a few months back at a toyfair priced @£40 :eek: There was also one on the bay at the same time, it went for about £45.
Must admit its one of the nice B24's and you don't see many for sale. I expect there will be offered via Corgi cheap in a few months time.

Condor

Agent X20

24th July 2005, 16:54

Another one through Corgi Direct perchance..??

Grizzly Adams

22nd August 2005, 14:26

Its funny re-reading this thread as i really was disappointed when this model first came out. I thought we were going to get a nice bog standard RAF Lib decked out in a great RAF night scheme. I think the thing that put so many off was the front turret, but i stumbled across an old Flypast/Aeroplane magazine article about these Libs the other day and it made fascinating reading. I took another good look at the piccies on Tricatus's site and also had a butchers at the display model at the local MZ. The model has grown on me a lot, so i made a point of picking one up if they ever went to the bins and lo and behold they have. Received mine today and i definitely am not disappointed. She's a corker and looks fantastic lining up alongside G-George and Grand Slam Lanc. The blacked-out turret doesn't look out of place, the moulding is nicely fitting and the joint line around the nose area isn't that noticeable unlike other Libs. The RAF Camo scheme is spot on and a very welcome edition to the Grizzly display cabinets she is.

At a limited run of 1400 i'm not sure this one will be around for long after she's been snapped up from the Bins. I can't wait for the RAF B25 now as it'll make for a nice RAF Bomber Command display.

Grizz

simonclarke1034

22nd August 2005, 15:13

Totally agree with you Grizzly Adams, very nice model this one! Bought it when it first came out and to be honest it is one of my favourites. :D

uksubs

22nd August 2005, 15:20

paid £45.00 for mine on ebay ,plus got coastal command one for £31.00 :D
bloke in the shop wanted £80.00 just for oulton one , so iam well happy :D

Lofty

23rd August 2005, 18:54

I
At a limited run of 1400 i'm not sure this one will be around for long after she's been snapped up from the Bins. I can't wait for the RAF B25 now as it'll make for a nice RAF Bomber Command display.

Grizz
Some of the other libs had small runs and still hit bins hard.....and still available...so still not in panic mode yet!

minter

24th August 2005, 08:31

Some of the other libs had small runs and still hit bins hard.....and still available...so still not in panic mode yet!

not suprissing had a quick count,and not including dragon on his tail, theres 23,000 libs out there :eek:

shuttle

24th August 2005, 09:55

I have 5 of them!!

:D Shuttle

Agent X20

24th August 2005, 10:52

Its blo*dy frightning cos if there is 1000 collectors, we should each have 23..!!!

That just shows you why they are in the poo over the Libby pricing

shuttle

24th August 2005, 12:22

G-force

24th August 2005, 12:38

Agent,

Whilst in Modelzone yesterday (Bluewater branch) I saw someone buy a discounted AA 707 for their small child (Son I presume?). I would imagine that Corgi also sell to many 'one-off' buyers who want to collect one single plane or maybe only a few for whatever reason?

:) Shuttle

Yep, have seen alot of this. Still staggered at that 23,00 figure! How many AAs' in total? (Too lazy to work it out myself face)

Agent X20

24th August 2005, 12:39

Sorry Mr Shuttle ... it was a one off attempt at some humour... :D . failed miserably... :( but it does give an indication of the size of the Libby mountain there must be somewhere...

As a one off, a Liberator.. yep perhaps a Concorde or Hawk (1/32) please for the sideboard, but not a Libby....

Small child and 707.. that'll dent the furniture.... they are heavy old models

CFBC

24th August 2005, 12:45

Poor child... He will be "civil cursed" forever more.... :D

G-force

24th August 2005, 12:56

Meeting in Corgi "Boardroom"(Cough)......

"Right guys, I want your ideas for the next AA catalogue"

"What about doing a Hawk?"

(followed by 10 mins of outrageous laughter)

"Wise up, that'll never sell"

"Okay, lets move on......Concorde! only joking...nearly had you there... how about a Zero?"

"Inspired! They'll sell in the millions....everyone loves a Zero, they'll all want one, but we'll hold out on the RAF one till about the fifth or six issue, get them buying a few first before we hit them with the big one!"

;)

G-force

24th August 2005, 12:58

Poor child... He will be "civil cursed" forever more.... :D

Not on Corgis he won't!

Agent X20

24th August 2005, 13:23

Not such a bad.... a bad.. a bad... afflicition... :cool:

corgi956

18th October 2006, 17:34

Got this particular model (my first Lib) the other day from Evil bay for a fairly decent price.:)

Wouldn't have been my first choice of Lib but I can't find a Strawberry Bitch at the right price so.......:cool:

Anyway, I agree with most comments on here about it, especially the one which says why couldn't they do a normal Bomber Command one, but that's Corgi for you.

However, overall I'm fairly pleased apart from two real problems with mine.:( the rear turret doesn't move (I could have made one myself that would have had this problem :D :o ) and one of the rear guns is longer than the other - by about two millimetres - it is
very noticable.:wacko:

Oh and the upper turrets guns don't elevate.:mad:

But other than that, it is quite good - especially for a relatively cheap price.

condor

18th October 2006, 19:59

and one of the rear guns is longer than the other - by about two millimetres - it is
very noticable.:wacko:

Although the guns look "weird", Corgi have actually got them correct;)

Condor

Agent X20

18th October 2006, 20:59

The law of sod states that the 50 year old has taken an X-Acto to his guns to even them up.....:blink: :unsure: :wacko: :cool:

philminnion

18th October 2006, 21:55

The law of sod states that the 50 year old has taken an X-Acto to his guns to even them up.....:blink: :unsure: :wacko: :cool:

I remember when I got first B24 - I've got five of them now, I was disturbed at the length of the guns. But sure enough research proved that Corgi was correct. I hope that no X-Acto knife was taken to the guns!

The one that is incorrect is on my B24 Coastal Command. Those didn't have an Emmerson turret or twin fifties. I believe the rear turret had four 303s and was a Frazier Nash.

phil minnion