1/8th scale Fokker DR1 triplane

[the_old_un]

I am seeing the light at the end of the tunnel with this build.

It is the rerelease of the Hasegawa triplane by Hachette and is overall an excellent model to build. It is very heavy due to the large amount of white metal used in the parts.

Having looked at an original model I would say that this is certainly on a par with it if not slightly better. Included is a full plastic film roll for the entire skinning of the aeroplane.

It is not for new modellers as there is a tremendous amount of filing and sanding to do.

Pictures later tomorrow.

[shuttle]

Old_un,

Looking forward to this. I do remember an old 'Scale Models' article(s) about building the original Hasegawa model by, I think, Ray Rimmel. Did Hasegawa also release the plastic engine as a separate kit?

They also made a 1/8th SE5.a?

[the_old_un]

In all they made four models from the mid 70's. the first three being in 1/8th scale and the last one in 1/16th. They were known as the museum quality models.

They produced several small kits of 1/8 portraying the Lewis and Vickers gun. And as Shuttle rightly says they also made the stand alone engines for the Triplane and Camel. Both in plastic and one in metal. Superb kits.

They were retailing at £150+ in them days and until recently the four aeroplanes achieved a grand easily on the bay. They have all dropped to around £500 now due to the kids rumiging through grandpas collection and :LOL: sticking them on the bay. I was luckily enough to get all the models in mint condition and save them for a rainy day. The ones in scuffed and or torn boxes I will make.

The 1/8 ones were the superb RAF (Royal Aircraft Factory) SE5A, Sopwith Camel and the Fokker DR1. The 1/16 is the Wright Flyer of course.

They proved to be to expensive and design and production ceased. :(

They are by far the best large scale kits ever produced IMHO.

[shuttle]

Old_un,

I think my favourite was the SE.5a. I was working in Beatties at Holborn when these kits were for sale and remember selling a few. I nearly bought the SE.5a at the time but it was a bit too expensive (even with the 33% discount we got....). What a mistake.

:LOL: Shuttle

[the_old_un]

This wont be a fully comprehensive build like the Lancaster as there are several detailed builds of this model out there. I will show what I think are the necessary changes to the instructions which should enhance the models appearance and make it stronger where this needs to be done. Superglue is fine but has its limitations (as Eastwood would say :D )

First a couple of views of the glossy brochure.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0245.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0247.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0251.jpg

Lastly the size of this model (and its the smallest of them all)

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0250.jpg

[the_old_un]

The first part to be built was the front undercarriage winglet

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0253.jpg

Straight forward construction but ensure that it doesnt twist (heavy even weights for a few days.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0254.jpg

Several parts of this model look best uncovered. The wood is far to clean so a thin wash of brown makes it more realistic.

They sugest superglueing the legs :wacko: Drill a few holes and secure with 5ba or similar nuts and bolts. Far easier to take appart if needed.

[the_old_un]

There are 100 issues in all and the next ones deal with the engine assembly

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0259.jpg

There are nine cylinders and its very heavy when completed

Now a view of the back end with the pipes and exhausts.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0257.jpg

Barnes is 1/32 and it gives you a good idea of the size.

Construction can be a little on the fidly side and every cylinder head has to be heavily filed to ensure a good fit :mad:

[the_old_un]

Forgot to mention that this model appears on the bay quite often and price is always between £100 and £140. Worth every cent ;)

[the_old_un]

The 1/72 Airfix alongside one wheel

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0255.jpg

The original wheels are spoked and to aid streamlining a little canvas was added to cover them up. The finish is excellent.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0256.jpg

Trust Gibby to have a nosey :D

[hworth18]

Say one of these on Ebay yesterday and it looks like a nice kit, but beyond my wallet.

[the_old_un]

hworth, what you saw might have been an original Hasegawa and they are very expensive. There are several sellers in the States that seem to have loads of them :eek:

I paid £100 for this Hachette one :)

[the_old_un]

A couple of pictures showing the undercarriage

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0260.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0261.jpg

With the wheels on

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0262.jpg

[hworth18]

hworth, what you saw might have been an original Hasegawa and they are very expensive. There are several sellers in the States that seem to have loads of them :eek:

I paid £100 for this Hachette one :)

Yes, it is the Hasegawa kit and it is very pricey..:wacko:

[the_old_un]

Keep an eye out for the Hachette one. Excellent value.

[the_old_un]

Here is the tail plane in etched primer. The frame is made from solid brass bars from 1mm to 3mm thick. The ribs are white metal (Zamac castings). These are very difficult to solder so need to be held together with a fuse type wire and glued with either jellied super glue or two part Araldite type adhesives.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0263.jpg

The control horns for elevators, rudder etc are operated by the control stick in the cockpit.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0264.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0265.jpg

[the_old_un]

The prop is made from layers of wood with seven layers exactly like the real one

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0273.jpg

The makers label is supplied

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0274.jpg

All that is required is filing to receive the centre boss and some very fine sand paper to smooth the blades and finish off with a nice satin varnish.

[the_old_un]

The few chrome plated parts supplied have corroded slightly through age. They needed a really good rub down with wet n dry to remove the coating completely. When resprayed the result is great

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0276.jpg

Same treatment with the cover

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0275.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0277.jpg

Nothing worse than bubbles under the chrome

[the_old_un]

The triplane is now starting to look like one so will post pictures tomorrow.

[the_old_un]

A few pictures of the fuselage and fixed lower wing

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0299.jpg

Winglet and braces installed

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0298.jpg

Firewall

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0303.jpg

The scaffold type structure has bracing wires all over it

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0302.jpg

Control cables from the rudder and elevator all lead to the control column

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0301.jpg

Base of the column

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0300.jpg

The blue masking tape is to hold all the cables until they are connected :)

[eismeer]

That is truly awesome work old_un:cool:

Way way way beyond my modelling skills or anything i could muster:)

[the_old_un]

Its a big un matey and not much fits together easily. Be easier to scratch build the beggar :D Well almost :LOL:

[the_old_un]

The side wood veneers are meant to replicate those on the real machine. The idea being to stop the sound of billowing canvas when flying.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0307.jpg

I have made them detachable for access to the cockpit. Also there is no natural curve so I used brass wire bent to shape and sown to the veneer.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0305.jpg

Top view of the pit.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0306.jpg

Minimum instrumentation. The big silver thing is the fuel tank :eek:

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0304.jpg

Better close up.

I am shortening a 1/6th Baron so he fits in the pit. Bit of a squeeze and the poor devils been under the knife several times to shorten all his limbs and a huge tummy tuck as well :D

[Agent X20]

Scuse me but am kinda lost here.. Is this a kit in a box that you are currently putting together rather than one of these magazine jobbies...:)

Looks lovely...

[the_old_un]

Agent mate its another Hachette partworks jobbie like the Lancaster on the other thread :D A slightly larger scale tho :LOL:

As yet the Fokker DR1 is the only one of these Hasegawa beauties that Hachette have the licence for.

[Agent X20]

So you are getting this week on week along with yer Lancaster...?

[the_old_un]

Gawdy nah...............

I trawled the bay for a few weeks and found job lots of 100 issue lots for sale. All were complete partworks unbuilt collections and I bought three separate lots for a ton. Sold two lots and ended up building the third which are the photos you see here.

All I am doing is pointing out various different ways of building it without going into minute detail like the Lancaster.

The Hasegawa models are almost identical except have the fancy boxes and fancy rediculous prices to match.

There is a lot of two up for sale on the bay ATM fit for spares. Not sure if I want to pay HMRC and import taxes tho :D

[the_old_un]

Centre wing in place and secured. Top wing struts fitted but not yet tightened.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0309.jpg

Centre wing secured with tape and nylon ties.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0308.jpg

Only two struts on the triplane.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0310.jpg

The rear skid suspension arm is held by a rubber band.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0311.jpg

Half finished Baron with two machine guns and cockpit opening.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0312.jpg

[the_old_un]

Centre wing fitted as is the cover (posh name is careening)

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0327.jpg

Cables just visible in this poor light.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0326.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0329.jpg

Herr Baron looks fed up :D

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0328.jpg

Scuze all the junk on the table. Bits of Lanc and Carrier :cool

[the_old_un]

Twin machine guns now fitted.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0338.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0344.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0343.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0341.jpg

Next job is to fit the top wing

[the_old_un]

Guns and Careening unscrewed

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0345.jpg

Top wing test fitted

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0347.jpg

Rear view

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0348.jpg

So far so good.:)

[Davidte2007]

:D You know its ruddy Marvelous ;) :cool :cool

:rolleyes: Honest though Stew I'm stunned at the pace your building Her. :eek: :wacko:

:D Look forward to update ;) :cool

[the_old_un]

Should be finished soonly bomber :D

[the_old_un]

Will it be a girl or boy?

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/red_stork.gif

:LOL:

Surrounded by builds ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :D

[the_old_un]

I was going to mount the engine tonight but didnt have the energy :LOL:

[the_old_un]

Top wing secured

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0367.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0366.jpg

Dry fit of the engine

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0365.jpg

Brace wires completed

[the_old_un]

A couple of pics showing the engine cowl and prop

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0386.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0388.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0389.jpg

Just the tail to finish now

[the_old_un]

Front half now completed appart from top wing elevators

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0440.jpg

The likkle blue jobbie is the Airfix 1/72 triplane

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0443.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0441.jpg

Completed cockpit

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0447.jpg

The small resin biplane is one of three I am making for the carrier.

[Davidte2007]

:D Astonishing Stewart :cool :cool bloomin Huuuuuugh! :eek:

[the_old_un]

Ok I now have the correct tissue and dope!

Dont laugh to loud but for the life of me I cant remember how to stick the tissue and apply the dope? To many years messin with plastic and wood :LOL:

A genuine plea for HELP!

[Craig]

Fantastic! Where the hell do you put it though?! :eek:

[Davidte2007]

:confused: Don't you roll the dope and smoke it.! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :LOL:

[the_old_un]

Tropical Matey :lol: :lol: :lol:

[the_old_un]

40 odd years since I last used tissue and dope and this is my effort on the tailplane.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0319-1.jpg

Just needs trimming and sanding prior to painting.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0320-1.jpg

Looks awful in the flash lighting but its turned out quite smooth and tight as a drum skin. The elevators will be fun :rolleyes:

[Davidte2007]

:cool Well done Stew looks Very good ;)

:( shame me Old Fella's not here! :D He'd of built you a Hurricane Mate ;)

:D 1/1 Scale :D

[the_old_un]

:D Far better than that stupid shrink plastic they supply with it.

Aye I bet a few Hurries were quickly repaired like this.

[Davidte2007]

:D Far better than that stupid shrink plastic they supply with it.

Aye I bet a few Hurries were quickly repaired like this.

:D Yep that you are guarenteed my friend ;)

:) Also told me you would'nt of thought some got back.! :wacko:

[the_old_un]

The Hasegawa model differs in the way some parts are made. Several are similar but very few are identical.

These are very large kits to build and require some skills and experience in constructing mainly wooden componants. They certainly pass the time and the results can be fantastic. They can just as easily be rushed and the phrase "I dont need any destructions to knock these together" can result in being disastrous.

With my eyesight I need big things to make! :LOL:

[the_old_un]

Tailplane, elevator and rudder are well under way and should be ready in 48 hours or so :)

[the_old_un]

Tailplane ready

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0338-1.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0339.jpg

Elevator finished

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0341-1.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0340.jpg

Not yet connected

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0343-1.jpg

[the_old_un]

Rudder

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0337.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0336.jpg

The control stick will actually operate all the linkages when connected

[the_old_un]

Rudder ready for fitting

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0359.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0361.jpg

Just need to make a slot for the hinge.

[the_old_un]

Elevator secured to tailplane

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0404-1.jpg

[the_old_un]

A very nice replica

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/Fokker20DR1.jpg

[the_old_un]

Rudder in place

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0548.jpg

And tailplane

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0549.jpg

Working out the cable runs should be fun :D

[Agent X20]

Coincidence, I was playing with me DR1 this evening... slighly over engineered wing struts...

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/Corgi%20048/FokkerDR1001.jpg

[the_old_un]

Good gleef friend! Over engineered? They would hold up north pier here at home :LOL:

[Agent X20]

So much for all these claims about them being scale replicas then...:D

[the_old_un]

Erm............. Yeps :D

[Agent X20]

Well £20 from The Modeller and delivered on a Saturday..!! I like it..:D

[the_old_un]

Spilt me port all over the flamin keyboard...................:LOL:

[the_old_un]

A few more views of the underside showing the cables

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0600.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0603.jpg

And the tailplane completed

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0602.jpg

[the_old_un]

The DR1 is now complete and if I can get some sunshine tomorrow will photograph it on my green grass outside (erm, its fake, the grass, but looks good) Now I will have space to continue the HMS Fencer build.

[Davidte2007]

:D Looking forwards to the Completed Museum Exhibit ;) :cool

[the_old_un]

Be glad to get it out of the way mate. To big taking up to much space!!
might be for sale. sh...

[the_old_un]

Final pictures of this completed model

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0672.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0673.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0674.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0676.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0677.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0678.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0680.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0682.jpg

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/jodanestew/DSCN0683.jpg

If you get the chance to pick one of these up for 140 notes do so as its great fun.

[Davidte2007]

:) Beautiful Build Stew perfect and the dope looks as if its tightend more :cool She's Blinking Marvelous Old-Boy :cool

:D Nice pictures Mate Well done and congratulations on a fantastic Job :D

:) Regards Buddy David. ;)

[Craig]

Wonderful job! Well done! :cool

[eismeer]

Bl@@dy marvelous:cool:

[Garethster]

Old 'un you must be tempted to get a bit more linen and dope on that thing - it looks as if it could fly! Beautiful work! Master craftsman. :) :cool: :cool:

[the_old_un]

It certainly is a good looker. The manufacturers version was everything natural material colours appart from the red wheels and wing struts. Looked a bit boring so I added more red bits.

Tried to put it on evilbay earlier but their till jammed! :LOL:

[Agent X20]

.. well if it wasnt fer Mrs Agent, I'd snap it up.... In fact I could get it for Mrs Agent .. be a good swap, but I think the buyer wants cash..:D

[Wolster]

Very nice old un, would like to try one myself but would probably take me years!

[the_old_un]

Check out Swap Meet Forum :cool

[the_old_un]

I give up :mad: All I ask is a measly sum and no takers. Bet I couldn't give the darn thing away :confused:

[the_old_un]

Thats it! On the firing range tomorrow and a flame thrower to finish it off :D

[the_old_un]

Sorry but it's off to be blown to bits as no one wanted it. :mad:

[KO-B]

That would be a heck of a shame. Wish I had the space, the funds and the means of transport.
Not worth relisting on the 'Bay again? Sometimes persistence pays off.

KO-B

[the_old_un]

4th time? No interest at all. Yes lots of lookers but we know what they are?

I have no where to store the monster so it has to go one way or another but it was fun to build :D

[Davidte2007]

:) Leave it stored in the basement until the Spring and have another go on ebay ;) Terrible shame to destroy it Stew. :wacko: :wacko:

[the_old_un]

Das Ende

Kaput!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkJS-_8O_kI

[highnoon1966]

:LOL: :LOL:

That went well :D

[the_old_un]

Cost a packet to get that flying again :D

Fancy trying to take off on rough ground like that. Must be mad or on the devils juice :LOL:

[highnoon1966]

Cost a packet to get that flying again :D

Fancy trying to take off on rough ground like that. Must be mad or on the devils juice :LOL:

Terrane more suited to an R/C Landrover than a fragile aircraft, some people are just burks :)

[the_old_un]

Reminds me of a guy that built a huge Lancaster a few years ago and on its maiden flight it veered on take off into parked cars. Cost him hundreds to rebuild it.

[the_old_un]

If anyone wants this simply pm me as I really don't have the room to keep it.

[Davidte2007]

Das Ende

Kaput!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkJS-_8O_kI

:LOL: :LOL: The walk of Shame.! :o been there twi no. x3 Times :rolleyes: :LOL: :( :D

[the_old_un]

Flamin things a monster Dave :LOL:

[the_old_un]

Gawdy it's off to bomber county soonly :wacko:

[the_old_un]

Gawdy it's off to bomber county soonly :wacko:

Erm he collected it today :D