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admin
24th October 2004, 12:55
The P40 AA Releases

no4mkit
25th October 2004, 06:05
Very nice.

The hard part will be pacing myself as I can't have 'em all and certainly there will be more great liveries to follow. This is a very tempting pair though. :)

condor
25th October 2004, 06:20
Not a fan of the P40. So a big no to these :(




Condor

FROGGY
25th October 2004, 08:36
When i was a child, the p40 was my favourite plane, i hope many many p40! ;)

minter
25th October 2004, 08:52
i personally like them although one is a legends no? so wont be getting that one

Typhoon-MKV
25th October 2004, 09:29
i personally like them although one is a legends no? so wont be getting that one

Actually both of these are AA's.

Checkout the Leg-Ends Props thread for the Legends one.

They have actually started with three, 2 AA's and a Legend.....

Was a bit disappointed there were no Sharks Teeth, but may buy one of each as I like the P40's....

minter
25th October 2004, 09:33
ooops!!yes have had a lot to read this morning,and am now on track stealth a welcome addition to ww2 stuff and ditto on the sharks teeth,have to make do with the patches chin turret for now! :D

barretpa
25th October 2004, 11:08
A favourite of mine also, have seen it perform in NZ at a few airshows, and will be a most welcome newcommer to the collection. Hope to see quite a few more liveries.

Agent Carr
25th October 2004, 11:49
P40 its like Christmas come early. A fantastic choice by Corgi and from the Pics it looks like it will be a mighty fine casting.

planejunky
25th October 2004, 11:57
I love the P-40, a very under rated aircraft that created many of the early aces, including Col John Landers of "Big Beautiful Doll" fame.

These models look nice, but as usual these are the prototypes so we'll wait to see the finished product. Great to see another casting though, well done Corgi!

scramble
25th October 2004, 12:27
I'll wait for the flying tigers one. :)

no4mkit
25th October 2004, 15:23
i personally like them although one is a legends no? so wont be getting that one


ohh, careful there minter, any valid complaint against Legends is liable to get you labeled a whiner! ;) :D

minter
25th October 2004, 16:30
well let me put it this way, im not adverse to legends,i think the quality is there on most of them, but 2-p40s,normal ,1 a legend, i will be buying the 2 "normal ones"... i often look at my bader and think why arnt you a normal one :D im a spit man and like the look of the new legends spit so might buy,but each to their own

BSteinIPMS
25th October 2004, 16:36
Corgi has chosen to do the P-40E for their first effort, a commendable choice. Too bad the earlier marks were so significantly different as to require new tooling for both fuselage and wing since there is one scheme (at least) which would have appeal for a UK collector.

Curtiss Tomahawk Mk. IIA (P-40B)
No. 26 Squadron (Fighter), RAF
This aircraft was one of a group assigned from No. 403 Squadron (RCAF) to No. 26 Squadron for anti-invasion exercises with the Army (Southern Command), July 1941.

A reconaissance camera was installed in the baggage bay and was aimed obliquely through the clear port.

1/48 scale model by Monogram, other stuff by BTY

planejunky
25th October 2004, 16:47
Lovely model Bob, thanks for posting the pictures! Yep the Kittyhawk certainly has cleaner lines, probably why Corgi have chosen it rather than the Tomahawk.

shuttle
25th October 2004, 16:48
Bob,

Very nice and no overspray!!!

:) Shuttle

CFBC
25th October 2004, 16:59
Great detail.... Very nice... :)

The Defiant Man
25th October 2004, 18:11
P-40 would not have been my next choice, but still a welcome addition to the range. Will definitely be getting these. :)

maple 01
25th October 2004, 18:42
Come on now Bob, everyone knows the first P40s should have been 112 squadron GA-Y with shark's teeth! (PC concerns there?*) ‘Flying Tigers’ with Shark’s teeth and USAAF ‘meatball’ Pearl Harbor (dogfight double with a Zero?) – what where they thinking? :D

OK Bob, please give us the breakdown

Kittyhawk, Warhawk. Tomahawk, P40s all, but models/marks?

-Nick

*Markings on Airfix P40, first kit I ever bought – 25p :o

Dogtwenty
25th October 2004, 18:51
Now aint this a welcome edition to the AA fold? She's a beautiful girl, teeth or no teeth, and she fills a huge gap in the Desert War story. My namesake, 'Imshi' Mason would be delighted and I'll be adding it to my list of must have or dies! :)

Dogtwenty
25th October 2004, 19:00
Come on! Corgi probably have not heard of the Osprey Aircraft of The Aces series - well, they have now! Try boys, you'll like it - I do!! :cool:

philminnion
25th October 2004, 19:42
Very nice P40s. One of these will make a nice complement to my Hurricane IID. A P40 is a good choice of subjects. I will buy them if you make them.

Phil Minnion

FROGGY
25th October 2004, 21:12
And what do you think of a russian P40 ? nice no ?

charley
25th October 2004, 21:21
And what do you think of a russian P40 ? nice no ?


Very good shout Froggy!!!! I feel our First Russian aircraft coming on... followed by Soviet Spit and Hurri!! :D

plumstix
25th October 2004, 22:15
I feel our First Russian aircraft coming on... :D

Haven't we already had a TU-4?

charley
25th October 2004, 22:30
Haven't we already had a TU-4?


Ah...yes.... "i was wondering who'd be the first to spot that..." well done Plumstix! :o

Dogtwenty
25th October 2004, 22:36
Very good shout Froggy!!!! I feel our First Russian aircraft coming on... followed by Soviet Spit and Hurri!! :D

Oh yes, a Russian Spitfire and a Hurricane - now that would be a pair of good editions! Eh comrades?? :D

plumstix
25th October 2004, 22:46
Ah...yes.... "i was wondering who'd be the first to spot that..." well done Plumstix! :o

Just testing, Charley? :D

planejunky
26th October 2004, 00:38
Very nice P40s. One of these will make a nice complement to my Hurricane IID. A P40 is a good choice of subjects. I will buy them if you make them.

Phil Minnion

Hadn't thought of that, I have the Hurri IID and the Neville Duke Spit Vb trop, it'll be good to carry on the desert theme. ;)

BSteinIPMS
26th October 2004, 01:48
OK Bob, please give us the breakdown

Kittyhawk, Warhawk. Tomahawk, P40s all, but models/marks?
-Nick

Here you are, kind neighbor to the north: this explains all:

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p40.html :D

philminnion
26th October 2004, 04:55
Hadn't thought of that, I have the Hurri IID and the Neville Duke Spit Vb trop, it'll be good to carry on the desert theme. ;)

Now that you mention it, I have the Neville Duke Spit as well. I've actually lost tally of what I have. But right on, the desert theme works well.

Phil Minnion

The Defiant Man
26th October 2004, 17:57
Really surprised we haven't had them already, especially the Hurri.

no4mkit
26th October 2004, 18:01
A Russian boxed set would be cool.

P-40 + Hurricane (a la IL2FB with quad 20mm)

Dogtwenty
27th October 2004, 18:23
I think I'll take Uncle Alberts advice and wait for further issues of this one, I really would like to get one with sharks teeth, it was my favourite from when I was a nipper! Rain check on this model I think! :cool:

charley
27th October 2004, 20:39
I think I'll take Uncle Alberts advice and wait for further issues of this one, I really would like to get one with sharks teeth, it was my favourite from when I was a nipper! Rain check on this model I think! :cool:


im with you on this one dogtwenty!!!!

i think corgi deliberatly go for the less 'common/popular' markings on the first releases, knowing that 'we' will go for the new casting. they hold back the tasty ones i.e. p47 NGNG.....knowing we won't be able to resist!!!!! :rolleyes:

Dogtwenty
27th October 2004, 22:28
I would be very interested to hear what our new friend Richard, Corgi's modelmaker, has to say about your theory Charley, but I have a suspicion that you may be right, but Hah! didn't fool us did it - am still holding out for Sharks teeth - so there :p

Albert Ross
27th October 2004, 22:39
As soon as Corgi told me they were doing a Kittyhawk, I expected a sharkmouth RAF one also and was not consulted on this. I was also disappointed like you are, but I am told there is a marketing strategy ploy by doing these two first. It's a brand new tooling, so Corgi are confident of sales without doing the scheme we all want. They apply the same strategy to their 1/76th buses. When a new London Transport bus is released - do you ever get the RED one first? No, it's always a less-popular GREEN London Country or Greenline version. Same with the P-40 - you wait, the RAF sharkmouth one will follow! :cool:

Aeronut
27th October 2004, 22:40
Very nice.

The hard part will be pacing myself as I can't have 'em all and certainly there will be more great liveries to follow. This is a very tempting pair though. :)

Very true ,to buy or not to buy ? :confused:

shuttle
27th October 2004, 22:42
Albert,

Cunning, very cunning!

:rolleyes: Shuttle

Dogtwenty
27th October 2004, 22:43
I love you Albert - steady there! Excellent, we'll just sit back, collect all the Spitfires and Hurricane you care to throw at us, and me especially, till old Sharkey come along! :D

Aeronut
27th October 2004, 22:54
As soon as Corgi told me they were doing a Kittyhawk, I expected a sharkmouth RAF one also and was not consulted on this. I was also disappointed like you are, but I am told there is a marketing strategy ploy by doing these two first. It's a brand new tooling, so Corgi are confident of sales without doing the scheme we all want. They apply the same strategy to their 1/76th buses. When a new London Transport bus is released - do you ever get the RED one first? No, it's always a less-popular GREEN London Country or Greenline version. Same with the P-40 - you wait, the RAF sharkmouth one will follow! :cool:

Do you think it could be second half of 2005 Albert ? if so can I put my order in now ? :D

Dogtwenty
27th October 2004, 22:59
Oy Gerroff! I was there first - and me, and me! :D

minter
28th October 2004, 16:26
yes sharkemouth will definatley be in my cabinet WHEN they do it..... er do people really collect model buses?? :confused:

Dogtwenty
28th October 2004, 21:31
There are some more really sadder people than us - honestly, I'm shocked too and I can drive them!! :o

Lofty
29th October 2004, 09:24
The thought of havin' Lev's dentures over the front of me P-40 is slightly off puttin' :D
No Offense Lev.....please don't bite me head off <groan>

barretpa
29th October 2004, 11:12
Stop moaning you lot, great to see the new models of the P40 comming out,especially models from the Pacific Theater,and who knows they might become very valuable in time. Just take a look at the RAAF mosquito,maybe time for another staged "Fire" :eek: :eek:
The world dos,nt just revolve around the Mother!!! country :( :(

Dogtwenty
31st October 2004, 01:07
I say! Doesn't it old chap? But what you say is true - and they can whine as much as they like, Corgi will do what THEY want and not what YOU want! We are all pawns in their game to make money, so get used to it and practice at being suitably impressed when they give you a tit bit and stop being ungrateful kiddies! ;) I'm still going to wait for the Shark mouth though!

Craig
2nd November 2004, 13:57
I'm quite taken with the RAF one, but I too would like a Sharksmouth one. We'll see.....

minter
2nd November 2004, 15:40
it'll be there, with the eight other liveries :rolleyes:

no4mkit
2nd November 2004, 18:01
As nice as these first samples are I think the best is yet to come, which is why I'll probably hold out (if I can) for the Sharkmouth RAF Warhawk which, having inspired the AVG noseart, will go nicely alongside my Matchbox Chennault.

Really like that RNZAF one though... can I resist?... second half 2005 and the (rumored) Sharkmouth is soo far away.... :D

no4mkit
2nd November 2004, 18:05
it'll be there, with the eight other liveries :rolleyes:


sure bet Minter, and it will be very interesting to see what all of those liveries will be. (no pink or blue we hope ;) )

A Russkie P-40 would be such a cool move by Corgi. Come on Dog, open the door to the east and give us some red star birds! (Hurricane IIC!!! :D :D )

Lofty
2nd November 2004, 22:14
Nuffin wrong with pink or blue......especially if yer colour blind :D

Typhoon-MKV
7th November 2004, 14:42
Dear Corgi, next release one of these.....


PLEASE

charley
7th November 2004, 15:03
Dear Corgi, next release one of these.....


PLEASE

Oh god yes!!!!!! Can i pre-order now!!! :rolleyes:

OFMC (Old Flying Machine Company) P40 is also superb (Can't find a pic!)

Horrido!
7th November 2004, 16:02
Dear Corgi, next release one of these.....


PLEASE
Err.. do you mean one of these?




Horrido!

PierreMarch
7th November 2004, 19:10
Err.. do you mean one of these?



Horrido!

Cool...except the color is not right.

Typhoon-MKV
7th November 2004, 23:17
Ok how about this one then.....

Horrido!
8th November 2004, 05:31
Cool...except the color is not right.

It is an image.

Horrido!

Agent Carr
8th November 2004, 09:19
Give Corgi a break they can not do every popular scheme at the same time.

Typhoon-MKV
8th November 2004, 17:48
The question is though were the first two they did popular ;) ;) ;)

charley
8th November 2004, 18:22
Ok how about this one then.....

Oh yes ! Bring it on!! :cool:

I can not wait...please Corgi put me out of my misery!!! :D

The Defiant Man
9th November 2004, 00:16
Oh yes ! Bring it on!! :cool:

I can not wait...please Corgi put me out of my misery!!! :D

Totally agree, what a stonker! :)

Agent X20
9th November 2004, 09:15
Seems strange that they have not gone for the ionic.. <yick sorry Bob> P40 schemes... Alberts view is that we have to buy the less popular ones first.... If thats the case then they must be spiking the tea at Corgiville...just means that the first three end up very quickly in the bins and by the time you get the Sharkmouth/Flying Tigers.. then peeps are fed up of the subject... do a Dragon lead with yer trumps... :D

Anyway.. I want a John Wayne one..!!

minter
9th November 2004, 09:43
2 p-40s one aussie and one a NZ is this trying to tell us something?

Agent X20
9th November 2004, 09:46
Like Alberts having a down under moment...!

CFBC
9th November 2004, 10:45
Wonder if Alberts going on holiday to Aussie? Or is it where he went this year and as such got the idea.....? :confused:

minter
9th November 2004, 10:53
Wonder if Alberts going on holiday to Aussie? Or is it where he went this year and as such got the idea.....? :confused:

there is some post on here which states rather criptically that there is a reason why the obvious ones wernt done first.I dont know about civies but cant remember much ww2 stuff on Aussies or NZs

Agent X20
9th November 2004, 12:01
What as in AA32802... a certain RAAF Mossie....

Ooooopps.... :eek:

minter
9th November 2004, 13:06
What as in AA32802... a certain RAAF Mossie....

Ooooopps.... :eek:

which ones that then?

no4mkit
9th November 2004, 17:42
...or a certain Lancaster named George, AA32607. ;) :D

no4mkit
10th November 2004, 04:20
Free idea Corgi.... (getting back on subject...)

How about dogfight double set comprising a 112 Sqn. Kittyhawk, complete with sharkmouth art, vs a Bf109E?

A couple a nice desert schemes there - could be a winner....

Horrido!
10th November 2004, 08:10
Free idea Corgi.... (getting back on subject...)

How about dogfight double set comprising a 112 Sqn. Kittyhawk, complete with sharkmouth art, vs a Bf109E?

A couple a nice desert schemes there - could be a winner....

With the P40 burning on the sand of a diorama base?

Horrido!

minter
10th November 2004, 08:22
Free idea Corgi.... (getting back on subject...)

How about dogfight double set comprising a 112 Sqn. Kittyhawk, complete with sharkmouth art, vs a Bf109E?

A couple a nice desert schemes there - could be a winner....

very nice, but just wish they would do another 109 full stop.

barretpa
11th November 2004, 08:05
2 p-40s one aussie and one a NZ is this trying to tell us something?


And what one may ask is wrong with that :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

minter
11th November 2004, 08:42
And what one may ask is wrong with that :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

nothing at all ,nice choices, just wonder why. Albert said these markings were chosen for obvious reasons

barretpa
11th November 2004, 09:20
Tongue in cheek there minter :D :D
My thoughts are that corgi are trying to appeal to a wider audience and expand their customer base ,as there is a lot of untaped collectors who might jump in with models they can relate to.

goonybird
11th November 2004, 23:13
With the P40 burning on the sand of a diorama base?

Horrido!

It can be arranged for a suitable fee! :D

admin
17th April 2005, 23:23
We are still waiting for the pictures from our Corgi contacts- in the meantime these give some idea of whats coming.

Once we get the shots through we will post up on the Web Site and advise accordingly.

AA35205 AA35204

DCRanger
17th April 2005, 23:25
Neville Duke's is a winner. Have to get his Spit to go with it.

shuttle
17th April 2005, 23:46
This 'sharkmouth' P-40 looks fantastic and I am sure will be the biggest seller as it is the one we have all been waiting for.

:) Shuttle

kevjb64
17th April 2005, 23:48
Agreed . Mmmm £900 plus me thinks !!

plumstix
17th April 2005, 23:52
Get in!!

The Defiant Man
18th April 2005, 00:21
What can you say?.....apart from it should have been the first one.......absolutely superb shark........US one is OK, but nothing special, imho.

Typhoon-MKV
18th April 2005, 00:23
Both a must for me - been waiting for these - well done Corgi....

Pre-order number 2.....

:)

charley
18th April 2005, 00:26
The US P40 very close to Duxford Based Fighter Collections example! What with the RN Corsair NGNG and TT slowly building my own Fighter Collection!! :D

Line it up with BBD, Black 6 and you got a Flying Legends Flight Line walk!!!!! :D

The Defiant Man
18th April 2005, 00:44
The US P40 very close to Duxford Based Fighter Collections example! What with the RN Corsair NGNG and TT slowly building my own Fighter Collection!! :D

Line it up with BBD, Black 6 and you got a Flying Legends Flight Line walk!!!!! :D
Perhaps there is some thinking behind the (sometimes apparent) madness???

WJP?
18th April 2005, 01:22
I've been waiting for the P40 so I be getting both of these. Now I just have to wait for a Flying Tigers one.

condor
18th April 2005, 07:09
Will get the Neville Duke P40, as it will sit nicely along side his Spitfire.


Condor

minter
18th April 2005, 08:26
still trying to get hold of his spit,so will prob get this as well, like you say make a nice pair

FROGGY
18th April 2005, 08:56
The two's are fantastic !

scrounger
18th April 2005, 11:03
yup, p40 for me in RAF colours.

oh god this is going to be expensive

gregorh63
18th April 2005, 11:40
Can't understand why they do the P40 Western Desert version as a Legend. It's a cracker of a colour scheme...unless they've a couple of other North African numbers up their sleeve. :rolleyes:

The Defiant Man
18th April 2005, 11:45
Cos it's such a popular scheme they should be able to sell bucket loads......in which case why restrict it to a lower production run as a "limited" edition (my theory behind the thinking - not that I necessarily agree with it).

Personally I have no problems with the Legends models themselves (couple of Corgi's best over the last 18 months have been Legends).

gregorh63
18th April 2005, 12:07
Fair point. Think they'd sell a bucket load as an AA on this at a tenner a unit more? Must be a known sales drop off point which comes into the calculation when making a choice. The Duke Spit hung around for a while at a low price. This addition might see all the ND Spits off into the mists of time. Box set special job in the future anyone ;)

minter
18th April 2005, 12:13
i think the legends runs are coming on in leaps and bounds, only have one the Bader,but theres some crackers coming up, the 262 to name but one as well as this p-40, so can see me getting some more,but one question does anyone know if they will be more easier to get out of the box in future?

Seafire47
18th April 2005, 13:03
The RAF Kittyhawk is a must have, but I'm not so keen on the other one.

Agent X20
18th April 2005, 13:38
The other one should do well in the States..

shuttle
18th April 2005, 13:41
Only the 'Civils' are limited for the 'Legend' range? I will not pre-order any of the 'Legend' models as they do appear all over the place. The Neville Duke P-40 does look great though and will really look nice next to the Spitfire. A Neville Duke Hunter should be next!!

:D Shuttle

Agent X20
18th April 2005, 13:43
Smacks of a Neville Duke set here with a cert signed by the man himself.... :o

FROGGY
18th April 2005, 14:19
The neville duke is a legend, but i buy it, the aleoutian is great, but i have the same plane with Matchbox (tant pis).

kevjb64
18th April 2005, 14:38
The other one should do well in the States..

What we talking here Agent 10-20 , not MORE surely :D . Keep taking em pal !!!

Agent X20
18th April 2005, 14:49
Ten twenty as in numbers sold or money... :D :D :D

Dogtwenty
18th April 2005, 20:33
Brilliant choice for the RAF P-40, they could have chosen Billy Drakes kite, as they have a real one in RAF Museum Hendon (by the way, did I mention that we caught CBFC sneeeking around on Sunday!!!) But, the Duke kite is excellent and will complement my RAF fighters collection - cannot wait for it!! :D

no4mkit
18th April 2005, 22:26
The other one should do well in the States..


Nah, got it in Matchbox form. Take the RAF one though! :D

Grizzly Adams
19th April 2005, 13:00
Quick enquiry. Looking at the Tricatus site they have this P40 as being out in April - AA35202 P-40E Kittyhawk 1A Scale 1:72. Is that one still gonna be made or are the two P40's released for the 2nd half the only ones at present?

Grizz

DCRanger
19th April 2005, 13:25
now that we have a 112 sqdn P40 and Mustang are we likely to see a 112 sqdn shark mouth Sabre or were they Canadaire Sabres with the Different wing?

jetfan
19th April 2005, 17:59
According to Larry Milburry's book "The Canadair Sabre", 112 Sqdn initially operated with the early slatted wing and then these were replaced with the "6-3 fixed leading edge" wing versions after a few months. Serial numbers after XB900 had the hard wing. Their old birds were passed on to other squadrons.

So how about it Corgi..its possible to do RAF Sabres.

Dogtwenty
19th April 2005, 22:54
Well, back to Kittyhawks then - Do we think the Neville Duke box set will sell, or is it another pie in the sky? :p

Typhoon-MKV
19th April 2005, 23:02
Well, back to Kittyhawks then - Do we think the Neville Duke box set will sell, or is it another pie in the sky? :p

Well I'd buy one...

Dogtwenty
19th April 2005, 23:05
Hello sir, and so will I! But I wish I had not ordered the earlier one, out this month, its not as good as Flt Lt Dukes, I think anyway. Love those teeth! :) :)

smithers
26th April 2005, 21:22
Love the Neville Duke colour scheme, but why oh why did it have to be a Legend? I do wish Corgi would ditch the Legends and get the collection back on track.

WJP?
5th May 2005, 02:07
FM got some pics of an additional US release CG-US35206 P-40 Warhawk Flying Tigers, "White 104" Maj. Edward Rector. Its a legend. I'm not sure why they have 2 most popular released as Legends. There is also an additional Sabre. Also a legend.

CFBC
5th May 2005, 07:46
WJP,

Corgi UK have done that with a couple of Legends here in the UK... :(

I have added some pictures to the US Release thread.. :)

DCRanger
5th May 2005, 08:17
A quick look at the FM site and including the US releases I think there are 7 published P40 releases already and we haven't seen the first one on the shelves yet. Seems that Corgi's new strategy is to flood the market with the new releases.

I wonder if they will get round to producing the Tomahawk. Flying Tiger and 112 Squadron models would be very nice to go with the current Kittyhawk/Warhawk models.

The Defiant Man
5th May 2005, 22:26
A quick look at the FM site and including the US releases I think there are 7 published P40 releases already and we haven't seen the first one on the shelves yet. Seems that Corgi's new strategy is to flood the market with the new releases.

Crazy......folks who might have bought the first (or second) might now wait until their fave comes along......sure-fire way for some of them to go into the bins....

Agent X20
5th May 2005, 23:34
The only way forward is to get as much out on to the market as possible... seems to be the flavour of the month..... t'will end in tears... collections have to be collectable.. othwise peeps cant be ar$ed... :D

minter
6th May 2005, 08:57
Crazy......folks who might have bought the first (or second) might now wait until their fave comes along......sure-fire way for some of them to go into the bins....

agree, hardly ever buy the first new tooling now

Andreas
13th May 2005, 20:39
Anyone had a closer look at the shark mouth of Neville Duke's P-40? The lower part inside the mouth should actually be red and the upper part black, similar to the 112 Sqn P-51K! I did double check with my Osprey book about Tomahawk/Kittyhawk Aces. Most probably a pre-production error, at least I hope so!

gregorh63
15th May 2005, 15:00
I think they'll adjust the shark mouth. They've got all of us breathing down their neck. That'll make a nice double with the P40 US issue with artwork panel, due in December.

Dogtwenty
7th June 2005, 22:48
I'll be adding the Duke P40 to my collection because its a US fighter in British markings, and I agree, its a shame that this a/c was not selected for the limited edition treatment, which would have made it even better in the Dog's eyes. Still beggars cannot be choosers!

Angels one-five
10th June 2005, 10:58
the 1st half P40s...? Anyone got any ideas when they may be hitting our shores? CHC still has the 1st half releases listed as Apr, FM is now estimating July.... Any advance on July...? :confused:

Dogtwenty
10th June 2005, 22:05
Dog knows Old Boy, but I'm chopping that first RNZAF kite in favour of waiting for the Neville Duke 112 Sqn kite instead, its much more exciting, dont you agree? :)

Angels one-five
11th June 2005, 09:23
I'm sticking with the RNZAF one - I've got the other two Commonwealth Aces. Isn't the Duke P40 a legend? I just can't get to grips with the stands and wheels down thing!

minter
11th June 2005, 09:34
i want the duke p-40 i know its a legend but just gonna have to grit me teeth

DCRanger
11th June 2005, 11:05
A couple of people managed to convert the Finucane Spit to flying mode by means of surgery to the undercarriage. Anyone fancy doing the same to the twisty go round backwards undercarriage on the Legends P40. :rolleyes:

Dogtwenty
4th July 2005, 18:36
I'm not at all keen on chopping these models about, mainly as I'm not that good at it, thats why I collect the AA's :rolleyes: The Neville Duke P40 is my all time favourite for this type but they could have just have easily done Billy Drakes, which is in Hendon museum, shame really but I dont mind the Legends at all. :)

Craig
24th July 2005, 14:44
I've got the RNZAF P-40 and think it's cracking. Wasn't bothered about one at all until I saw this one at Waddington and think it looks excellent.Would have preferred the Duke, but it's a Legend, so as per policy will have to pass. Don't understand why they had to Legend that one. Not bothered though, the RNZAF one looks excellent, so not all bad!

Dogtwenty
25th July 2005, 08:07
I say old boy, didn't know you were at the airshow! SHould have said. Still, yes the RNZAF P40 is really sweet and I have added it to my collection of RAF fighters (WWII you understand?), but I think Corgi have chosen to use the colourful Duke P40 in the Legends series because lots of little dripping snatchers (kids old chap, kids) will clamour for them. Anyway, wait another week and the limited will be on sale with the Pirate fleet for £15! Goos is it not :mad:

Agent X20
25th July 2005, 08:23
Wait two and get it for a tenner.. nice to see some universal praise for a model... :o

minter
25th July 2005, 09:38
Wait two and get it for a tenner.. nice to see some universal praise for a model... :o

oooh cant wait that long :rolleyes:

P51D
25th July 2005, 10:12
I've got the RNZAF P-40 and think it's cracking. Wasn't bothered about one at all until I saw this one at Waddington and think it looks excellent.Would have preferred the Duke, but it's a Legend, so as per policy will have to pass. Don't understand why they had to Legend that one. Not bothered though, the RNZAF one looks excellent, so not all bad!

Exactly what I thought, have all 3 P-40's now and waiting for the others. The joint lines on these new mouldings seem much crisper (look at the corgi spit you can see daylight through them!) The detailing is better too especially in areas like the cockpit. Can't see these things going for a tenner and if they do I will get a couple more!

Only downer as everyone else has said is when they take a cracking model, drill a hole in the base, glue landing gear on slap it in an awful box and call it a Legend :(

Dogtwenty
25th July 2005, 22:31
Sad deluded chappy. Of course they will get down to a tenner! £15 already! Just get yerself down to the Toy Fairs and snap up all the bargains! You'll be able to afford more you know! :cool:

P51D
25th July 2005, 23:22
Sad deluded chappy. Of course they will get down to a tenner! £15 already! Just get yerself down to the Toy Fairs and snap up all the bargains! You'll be able to afford more you know! :cool:

So I take it you got your Duck, nightfigher hurri and losigkeit FW190 for a tenner each at the fairs then Dogtwenty?

OK so the P40 isn't quite in this league but yes I've snapped up plenty of stuff at toy fairs and saved a few quid on stuff I'm less bothered about having.

Which toyfairs do you recommend these days anyway where cheap AA's are plentiful, last one I went to was the NEC and AA's were a bit thin on the ground?

Dogtwenty
27th July 2005, 19:31
For a start Yank, I don't collect Nazi crap. I bought my Duck for £120 after a damn stiff fight, from a chappie in Tasmania from Ebay, and the delightful Hurricane Nightfighter for £20 when it was first issued, from a pal who trades.

Try asking for AA's and just keep your eyes peeled, you know, just like you should if you dont want 20mm cannon shells up your air intakes! At Lincoln there was a Carbury, Robinson and even the much hunted Aussie Mossie! Just have a look, and there's usually something to deflect your other half with too! Happy hunting Yank :)

The Defiant Man
27th July 2005, 22:49
They will be stay at £18 - £20ish until Corgi release the next shed load all at once and the dealers have to dump them, then they will o down to £15-ish.....tenner perhaps a litle low for the new lower production runs....and the first of the type to be issued may hold a litle steadier (as usual).

Dogtwenty
28th July 2005, 09:09
Defiant is correct. So stay away from the main dealers, dont pre-order and lurk around toy fairs or be careful on EvilBay! :)

Grizzly Adams
28th July 2005, 11:41
Thing is its all a question of how much you are willing to pay isn't it? I Pre-ordered both the Sterr 190 and Gibson P40 from FM and got them both for £18 each inc p&p. Now with both of these models i can't see them getting much lower except maybe at a toyfair and then only to about £15. I'm really not that fussed about truffling around trying to save £3 a model on the Warbirds. The larger models especially the bombers i agree waiting and patience is definitely the order of the day. I've never paid RRP for a large scale 1:72 and don't intend to, but each to their own. Some people have just got to have the model when it comes out and good luck to them, if they have the money to splash then go for it.

Grizz

Agent X20
28th July 2005, 11:44
So stay away from the main dealers, :) Not always the case... some of them have some very good discounts, but ONLY when you have yer hands ful and have to catch the train home.. :D

shuttle
28th July 2005, 11:53
Grizzly,

When I first started collecting the AA's (before the first 1/72 scale BoB Spitfire was released) I paid full RRP. There was no alternative. Then I discovered eBay and have not paid full RRP since. With a combination of the 10% discount using the AA club card (now defunct), Toy fairs, airshows and various sellers offering discount I can usually save money. I like to buy new releases fairly quickly if it is a plane I am really interested in though sometimes I might wait until it starts lowering in price. I often will buy a 'double' when it reaches a bargain price.

I don't collect every model released, only ones that interest me.

:) Shuttle

Dogtwenty
28th July 2005, 21:50
I dont collect all the models either, I simply dont have the room. I started out to collect the Malan and Townsend a/c, as my main interest is BoB, and I paid full whack for many new a/c as they came along as well as silly money on EvilBay for the ones I had missed. Now, I have chosen to avoid the pre-orders, despite being one of those who wanted the new models on the day they came out. I shall be patient and wait......... :rolleyes:

The Defiant Man
29th July 2005, 00:36
Thing is its all a question of how much you are willing to pay isn't it? I Pre-ordered both the Sterr 190 and Gibson P40 from FM and got them both for £18 each inc p&p. Now with both of these models i can't see them getting much lower except maybe at a toyfair and then only to about £15. I'm really not that fussed about truffling around trying to save £3 a model on the Warbirds. The larger models especially the bombers i agree waiting and patience is definitely the order of the day. I've never paid RRP for a large scale 1:72 and don't intend to, but each to their own. Some people have just got to have the model when it comes out and good luck to them, if they have the money to splash then go for it.

Grizz

I also use FM for new issues (limited edition fighters) I want asap/at release as I think £18 each (if you get 2 to combine p&P) is ok. Everything else I get from ebay, on-line retailers giving discounts or fairs.

Albert Ross
30th July 2005, 21:30
I think I'll take Uncle Alberts advice and wait for further issues of this one, I really would like to get one with sharks teeth, it was my favourite from when I was a nipper! Rain check on this model I think! :cool:

Don't worry, it's coming...

Dogtwenty
1st August 2005, 21:20
Thank you very much for that Uncle Albert. I knew I could trust you! :rolleyes:

P51D
12th August 2005, 22:53
I'm getting the Duke, due out soon, because as with most other people I think it is the best P40 scheme so far....BUT....
I have found the P40's seem even less suited to the Legends box than most because the rubber band is designed to pull over the cowling. The model is quite wide here so appart from being more difficult to take out (put back in) the box, it puts undue pressure on the model which does actually mark the paint. The rubber band also has to pass over/through the exhaust stubs :eek:
Trying to think of a better way to house my legends while not actually on display :confused:

plumstix
12th August 2005, 23:35
I'm getting the Duke, due out soon, because as with most other people I think it is the best P40 scheme so far....BUT....
I have found the P40's seem even less suited to the Legends box than most because the rubber band is designed to pull over the cowling. The model is quite wide here so appart from being more difficult to take out (put back in) the box, it puts undue pressure on the model which does actually mark the paint. The rubber band also has to pass over/through the exhaust stubs :eek:
Trying to think of a better way to house my legends while not actually on display :confused:

I don't actually see the point of the rubber band, the stand is screwed together through the base of the packaging and the stand is then screwed to the plane. Purpose of the band is???!!

P51D
13th August 2005, 06:32
I don't actually see the point of the rubber band, the stand is screwed together through the base of the packaging and the stand is then screwed to the plane. Purpose of the band is???!!

Come to think of it your right plumstix. As long as the plane isn't being thrown around in transit the band really isn't doing anything useful!
From now on I will leave them off for storage :)

neighbob
13th August 2005, 14:06
Purpose of the band is???!!




To make taking it out to display it as difficult as possible :D

Celtic
13th August 2005, 16:44
I'm getting the Duke, due out soon, because as with most other people I think it is the best P40 scheme so far....BUT....
I have found the P40's seem even less suited to the Legends box than most because the rubber band is designed to pull over the cowling. The model is quite wide here so appart from being more difficult to take out (put back in) the box, it puts undue pressure on the model which does actually mark the paint. The rubber band also has to pass over/through the exhaust stubs :eek:
Trying to think of a better way to house my legends while not actually on display :confused:
Please see http://www.pacifier.com/~nan1717/1-72_Corgi_US_4.htm

And, knowing Corgi, they'll continue packaging them this way until every Legends P-40 has the same scars. Someday on Ebay the Legends P-40's will be listed as either with or without stand damage, with the models without damage selling at a 100% premium.

plumstix
13th August 2005, 17:16
To make taking it out to display it as difficult as possible :D

Too right Neighbob, can't see any other purpose for it.

P51D
14th August 2005, 09:04
Please see http://www.pacifier.com/~nan1717/1-72_Corgi_US_4.htm

And, knowing Corgi, they'll continue packaging them this way until every Legends P-40 has the same scars. Someday on Ebay the Legends P-40's will be listed as either with or without stand damage, with the models without damage selling at a 100% premium.

Yes, very well put Celtic and definitely agree with the last line
"Too bad this model isn't available in a proper Aviation Archive box. It really deserves better treatment"

Dogtwenty
15th August 2005, 21:40
Ah, but, as I have stated before, Corgi know perfectly well that this a/c, in a clear box, will sell and sell, because of the Sharkmouth "Dad, dad, I WANT one" - rings a bell? :rolleyes:

The Defiant Man
15th August 2005, 23:41
Ah, but, as I have stated before, Corgi know perfectly well that this a/c, in a clear box, will sell and sell, because of the Sharkmouth "Dad, dad, I WANT one" - rings a bell? :rolleyes:
You mean there was.....shock horror.....logical thinking and a strategy behind the decision to do this as a Legend? :eek: I need a lie down....

DCRanger
16th August 2005, 00:12
Ah, but, as I have stated before, Corgi know perfectly well that this a/c, in a clear box, will sell and sell, because of the Sharkmouth "Dad, dad, I WANT one" - rings a bell? :rolleyes:
I have to agree. From a business point of view as opposed to the collector's view, it makes perfect sense.

minter
16th August 2005, 15:51
Ah, but, as I have stated before, Corgi know perfectly well that this a/c, in a clear box, will sell and sell, because of the Sharkmouth "Dad, dad, I WANT one" - rings a bell? :rolleyes:

well if thats the case ,i sure hope corgi dont do a sharskmouth 110 as a legend :rolleyes:

Dogtwenty
16th August 2005, 21:39
Well, you never know your luck Minter, Old Chap!! It would sell well though! :rolleyes:

rmorley
18th August 2005, 16:24
I know that we all (me included) feel that doing the Duke as a legend was stupid, but I have to agree with the comments that the model will probably sell more. This is probably also why they did the Bader Hurri (much mourned as a wasted opportunity by diecast collectors) as a legend; people who don't normally buy legends will see it, see who's flown it (or, with the Duke, the colour scheme and the chap who's flown it) and buy it. We hate them, but it makes sense.

CHC are despatching the Dukes today, apparently (I know 'cause I pre-ordered one!)

Grizzly Adams
18th August 2005, 17:11
I don't think people hate the legends, to be honest it seems a decent way of getting youngsters into the hobby, but if they sorted the god awful stands and put it in some decent packaging then maybe more collectors would buy them. I bought the Sharksmouth P51 and its a damn decent model, might even get the Duke, but apart from that i'm very wary of Legends as i like to display my models flying and don't get that choice.

rmorley
18th August 2005, 17:22
I don't think people hate the legends, to be honest it seems a decent way of getting youngsters into the hobby ... I bought the Sharksmouth P51 and its a damn decent model, might even get the Duke, but apart from that i'm very wary of Legends as i like to display my models flying and don't get that choice.


As a "youngster" meself, I personally don't think they're a good way to get youngsters into the hobby and retain 'em. My first Leg-ends were the 109E, Bader Hurri and Lane Spit, which me mum bought 'cos of an ad in the Daily Telegraph saying that they were 3 for £45, which we thought, at the time was quite good. There was nothing in the promo literature about these "Leg-ends" special features, and I thought that they would be like my existing Hurris, Spits and 109Es. How wrong I was! I was quite disappointed that the features such as opening cowlings and retractable undercarriage, which were good if you wanted some variety in your a/c displays. The packaging was awful! I managed to get the 109 out, but never got around to the Bader and Lane, which are now in the loft. The only legend I've bought since is the Duke, and even then I hope the marks which others such as Celtic have found elsewhere on their Leg-ends P-40s won't occur.

Regards

Celtic
18th August 2005, 22:37
I received the Duke a few days ago, but haven't opened it yet. However, I can already see the damage around the cowl caused by the stand. It is really upsetting to see such a beautiful model with The Mark. And, while staring through that ugly plastic cover, it occured that Corgi could produce two versions of these planes--one for the collector, one for the little mons... er tikes who probably don't care what they get anyway. The collector version could be boxed and have switchable landing gear and a regular AA stand. The tike version we could ignore. I'd be more than willing to pay AA prices for one of these models, especially since it wouldn't be ruined before its even taken out of the box!

Please, please, please (from both knees) Corgi, listen up--your Legends P-40's are being ruined by the stands and because of the ridiculous packaging serious collectors either don't buy them or have to hold their noses when they do.

Dogtwenty
18th August 2005, 22:49
Here, Here. I'll take it off you hands - See Swap Forum!!!! :rolleyes:

Agent Carr
18th August 2005, 23:00
Whats going to kill the P40 is the huge number being produced in a sort space of time. I counted three in my local toady. The model has grown on me and the casting is good. I almost bought one at full price!

Dogtwenty
18th August 2005, 23:06
My God, you'll be pre ordering next, get some sherry out at once you deranged chappy! :eek:

rmorley
19th August 2005, 11:39
[QUOTE=Celtic] while staring through that ugly plastic cover, it occured that Corgi could produce two versions of these planes--one for the collector, one for the little mons... er tikes who probably don't care what they get anyway. QUOTE]

Celtic, see my post somewhere else about why kiddies won't buy Leg-ends.

Dogtwenty
19th August 2005, 13:57
Oh, but I beg to differ. Kiddies do not indeed buy Legends but their dear old harrassed dads DO! :rolleyes: Dad, dad, dad, can I have - ring any bells boys?? :D

Agent X20
19th August 2005, 14:01
Not for a diecast toy....

... clothes... phone card top up.... food... pictures... popcorn... train fares... phone card top up... friends birthday presents.... more clothes.... food... phone card top up...

.... funnily enough .. diecasts.. no....

.... If its some kid in shorts pestering you for this K9-20, ..........thats CFBC.... :D

minter
19th August 2005, 14:08
Not for a diecast toy....

... clothes... phone card top up.... food... pictures... popcorn... train fares... phone card top up... friends birthday presents.... more clothes.... food... phone card top up...

.... funnily enough .. diecasts.. no....

.... If its some kid in shorts pestering you for this K9-20, ..........thats CFBC.... :D

i couldnt have put it better....although down here its simpsons dvds simpsons comics, starwars this star wars that....oh and lifts round his mates houses...no booking no ride :rolleyes:

Dogtwenty
19th August 2005, 14:08
Now Agent, that is really not at all nice. I stand by what I say and you have a perfect right to differ, but slagging CFBC off when the tight fisted git aint here is a tad orf - consider yourself dead legged and chinese burned :mad:

rmorley
19th August 2005, 15:01
Oh, but I beg to differ. Kiddies do not indeed buy Legends but their dear old harrassed dads DO! :rolleyes: Dad, dad, dad, can I have - ring any bells boys?? :D

Woofers, old chap, my Dad would never buy Leg-ends! He also thinks that the stand is abominable! (Not to mention the box, rubbers bands, oh to ----, I'll just put etc.)

Besides, I buy my planes meself ('cept the odd chrimbo)

Regards,

A "kiddie"

rmorley
19th August 2005, 15:04
[QUOTE=Agent X20]Not for a diecast toy....

... clothes... phone card top up.... food... pictures... popcorn... train fares... phone card top up... friends birthday presents.... more clothes.... food... phone card top up...

.... funnily enough .. diecasts.. no....

.... /QUOTE]

Don't have a mobile phone.

Clothes! What, do you think boys have fashion sense?

Popcorn! That abominable "food"!

Train fares- I'm the only kid I know of who uses the train, and I have a season ticket.

Diecasts, well, I agree there.

rmorley
19th August 2005, 15:05
i couldnt have put it better....although down here its simpsons dvds simpsons comics, starwars this star wars that....oh and lifts round his mates houses...no booking no ride :rolleyes:

Really? I thought only my brother still liked star wars!

Agent X20
19th August 2005, 15:11
RMorley - he did say kiddies... am refering to a daughter.. just in case you are worried...

K9-20 .. I have NOT slagged off CFBC.. :eek: . I have met him once and seen a couple or three photos.. in all cases he is wearing shorts.. Now I know life is tuff up north etc and by that my comments might have been a little unkind, but I was certainly not slagging anyone off... :D

Anyways hes back.. most probably trundling through the threads trying to catch up... wonder if he bought any duty free shorts..?? Better PM .. him.. see if he wants a Jugs over Jermany T shirt... :D :D :D

Minter - sorry forgot... DVD's... and Missy this and that Magazines...

minter
19th August 2005, 15:14
Really? I thought only my brother still liked star wars!

ah ...theres a new generation coming up, hes also into james bond...but not the kissy kissy snoggy bits :rolleyes:

rmorley
19th August 2005, 15:19
ah ...theres a new generation coming up, hes also into james bond...but not the kissy kissy snoggy bits :rolleyes:

My brother doesn't really like 007, I'm afraid!

rmorley
19th August 2005, 15:20
RMorley - he did say kiddies... am refering to a daughter.. just in case you are worried...

I am a kiddie!

Agent X20
19th August 2005, 15:27
ah ...theres a new generation coming up, hes also into james bond...but not the kissy kissy snoggy bits :rolleyes:Nobody likes the kissy kissy snoggy bits... specially John Wayne in Flying Tigers... P40 thread.. back on.... phew....

Mr Morely.. so have you received straight A's then..?

minter
19th August 2005, 15:30
[QUOTE=Agent X20]Nobody likes the kissy kissy snoggy bits... specially John Wayne in Flying Tigers... P40 thread.. back on.... phew....

QUOTE]

good grief :rolleyes: ....give me areal film like.....dunkirk...... no tonsil licking in that one :D

Agent X20
19th August 2005, 15:59
[QUOTE=Agent X20]Nobody likes the kissy kissy snoggy bits... specially John Wayne in Flying Tigers... P40 thread.. back on.... phew....

QUOTE]

good grief :rolleyes: ....give me areal film like.....dunkirk...... no tonsil licking in that one :D No P40's in that one Mints.... ( think of the thread Luke....)

rmorley
19th August 2005, 16:08
[QUOTE=minter] No P40's in that one Mints.... ( think of the thread Luke....)


Yeah, but just 'cos there aren't any P-40s doesn't make it a bad film...

I'm with Minter on this one :cool:

minter
19th August 2005, 16:12
ah yes makes you proud to be british.......hang on! we lost that one didnt wehttp://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/otn/confused/bluThinking.gif

rmorley
19th August 2005, 16:19
ah yes makes you proud to be british.......hang on! we lost that one didnt wehttp://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/otn/confused/bluThinking.gif


'Nother great British quality (tears swelling with pride!)

We... we... pretend we've won when we haven't (Ishandlwana)

I can't stop myself...

God save our gracious Queen,
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen!

(That applies to Ozzies, Kiwis, Canucks, Jamaicans, Tuvaluans and a couple of other countries!)

But not for long...

Hail President Blair!

Noo! I won't! Never! God Save the Queen and the RAF from Blair!

Well...
(Gunshot)

minter
19th August 2005, 16:20
you need a lie down :rolleyes:

rmorley
19th August 2005, 16:22
you need a lie down :rolleyes:


I already am! I'm dead! Did you finish the posting- Minter, have they got you too?

NOOO!

Seriously, I'm fine!

Agent X20
19th August 2005, 16:34
[QUOTE=Agent X20]Yeah, but just 'cos there aren't any P-40s doesn't make it a bad film...Didnt say it was a bad film.. poor old Bernard getting shot up... just getting the thread back on stream... P40's... wander too much off thread and Mr Orange will come and moderate you... :eek:

Anyway a course of dried frogs pills should sort you out... medication or incarceration... :D

rmorley
19th August 2005, 16:47
[QUOTE=rmorley]Didnt say it was a bad film.. poor old Bernard getting shot up... just getting the thread back on stream... P40's... wander too much off thread and Mr Orange will come and moderate you... :eek:

Anyway a course of dried frogs pills should sort you out... medication or incarceration... :D

Sorry old chap.

Agent X20
19th August 2005, 16:51
Dont wanna see you tango-ed... its not pleasant... :D

rmorley
19th August 2005, 16:57
Dont wanna see you tango-ed... its not pleasant... :D

Well, to avoid a repeat of the 1957 South London Spitfire disaster, has anyone received a Duke from CHC? I'm wonderin' cause I pre-ordered this beauty (lapse of concentration) at a 20pc discount (as you do).

Agent X20
19th August 2005, 17:29
(as you do). No... :D

rmorley
19th August 2005, 17:30
No... :D

It was a joke... :rolleyes:

Agent X20
19th August 2005, 17:35
Taken as one old sport..... sure they will be hard to get..!!

rmorley
19th August 2005, 17:41
Taken as one old sport..... sure they will be hard to get..!!

Little Johnny smashup's going to have fun, then!

DCRanger
21st August 2005, 14:17
I got the the Duke P40 from the CHC stand at Elvington yesterday. As some one else mentioned about the earlier P40 releases, this one also suffers rub marks from the rubber band. Why the rubber band when it is held in place with a screw as well. The way the screws are tightened up there is no chance of the model coming loose from the stand anyway :confused:

Very nice model although the colours are not quite what I expected. I thought it would be the same shades as the old Airfix model. Looks good though and has the appearance of desert sun fading. Some of the tampo printing doesn't quite get into the panel lines. Looking at some of the others on display the amount seems to vary a bit between individual models but to me this is not detrimental, it adds to the desert sun fading appearance. (Probably wouldn't be acceptable on some other models).

The joint lines are very good and it took a close inspection to see that modified castings should appear in the future. (112 Squadron Tomahawk? :cool: ) One niggle for me is that the separate casting for the engine cowling has resulted in one of those casting marks/rings under the radiatior. A small point I suppose considering that no one complains about the Corgi name and aircraft type being embossed on the bottom of every model.

The modified tooling possibilities together with endless colour scheme variations means that we could be flooded with P40s. Just hope that Corgi show a little restraint and not get every body tee'd off with too many releases too soon.

Verdict: Very good model, well done Corgi. Can't wait for the AVG P40 to go with it.

G-force
21st August 2005, 14:25
I expect the rubber band is there to stop anyone unscrewing the screws to try to get to the model, which is a major problem in shops. At least this way, if it is unscrewed, it won't be rattled around the box and broken. It's all about the box not being opened nowadays, some EU directive or other, which says something about the condition of the item for sale.
As for the problem of the band scratching the model, well that's an easy one. The models are being packaged so quickly that the paint is not being allowed to cure. Leaving it until it cures is not an option in production, as it's all down to cost, time is money.

G-force
21st August 2005, 14:29
Also got to say that I really don't like the Corgi name being so prevalent on the models. I think it reminds me of toys too much.


What's that I hear you say.........oh, they are toys, right! ;)

Celtic
21st August 2005, 16:51
I expect the rubber band is there to stop anyone unscrewing the screws to try to get to the model, which is a major problem in shops. At least this way, if it is unscrewed, it won't be rattled around the box and broken. It's all about the box not being opened nowadays, some EU directive or other, which says something about the condition of the item for sale.
As for the problem of the band scratching the model, well that's an easy one. The models are being packaged so quickly that the paint is not being allowed to cure. Leaving it until it cures is not an option in production, as it's all down to cost, time is money.
However, to get to the screw requires an Xacto knife, or similar surgical tool, and the only way I can get that bottom screw out is with a special flat-bladed screwdriver that I keep in my model chest-of-drawers just for the occasion. How the kiddies get that screw out is beyond me. I can just hear Grandpa's precious words after inheriting the task... :) By the way, I'm sure you are right about the curing problem. See my Paddy tail, below.

I've given over a whole page on my Web page to Paddy's problems. My theory is that the Legends are put together in a factory other than the AA factory, and that the Legends factory turns out models faster, with fewer inspections, and less attention to detail. The Paddy, Freddie Mosquito, and Duke P-40 all share a common problem--loose prop spinners that sag and fit poorly on the prop back plate. Other problems include smeared paint (Freddie), lumps UNDER the paint (Paddy), poor printing of insignia, and glue smears and drops.

G-force
21st August 2005, 17:17
Can't imagine they are made in a different factory. That would involve more cost!
Quality control probably is a little less prudent in the Leg ends, due to the market they are being aimed at. Again, the mind boggles though, not great quality control in some of the AA range.

Celtic
22nd August 2005, 03:52
Can't imagine they are made in a different factory. That would involve more cost!
Quality control probably is a little less prudent in the Leg ends, due to the market they are being aimed at. Again, the mind boggles though, not great quality control in some of the AA range.
It would be nice to hear from Corgi. One of the online vendors I talked too said they were the best diecast maker for listening to complaints. However, I think you would have to be a mass-seller to get that kind of one-to-one contact.

Your factory point is well taken, and you are probably correct. However, on another forum way back when I heard someone describe the difficulties encountered by companies that market 1/400 commercial models. Some of the problems included sharing factory space, corruption, and unauthorized changes being made at the factory. While our complaints seem to fall on deaf ears, it may be that the diecast makers are just constantly fighting manufacturing inertia, or worse. Corgi may do better than most just because they have better contacts, or a better organization, and thus better control over the manufacturing process.

Dogtwenty
22nd August 2005, 21:34
I must admit that I did give the Finucane Spitfire a jolly good look over but found nothing untoward. I did prise the engine cover off, which was easy! I'll be at Heathrow on Wednesday so I'll have a look at the USAAF Spitfire and Duke P40. I would be very peeved if the a/c were so poor, but I did notice on the 112 Sqn Mustang that the canopy did not fit tightly, but everything else was perfect - oh well :confused:

P51D
22nd August 2005, 21:57
Finally picked up the Duke and the P-51K today, couple of v. angry looking planes snapping away at me!...very nice :)

Dogtwenty
22nd August 2005, 21:58
Splendid P51, thats what I like to hear, and I'll be in at Heathrow to have a look :)

shuttle
24th August 2005, 21:13
I got the Neville Duke P-40 last night and what a corker!!! Here are some pictures of it with some chums!!

:) Shuttle

Typhoon-MKV
24th August 2005, 21:16
Now Shuttle you need a nice Tropical Diorama to show them off ;) ;) :D

Agent X20
24th August 2005, 21:17
Nice to see a happy punter .. nice photos there Mr Shuttle..

shuttle
24th August 2005, 21:25
Typhoon-MKV,

A tray of sand might be more relevant!!!! (But good try!). Agent, Neville Duke is a local Tonbridge boy so I have to show him some respect. I think the Corgi DAF collection is very nice and sums up the reason why I collect these models, to build nice little groups like this.

:) Shuttle

Agent X20
24th August 2005, 21:31
As I said nice to see a happy punter..., it is a nice collection. Missing the Robertson Hurri..?

shuttle
24th August 2005, 21:45
Agent,

Nope, 2 of them in the loft! However, the cannon Hurricane is on display.

If I remember correctly I got the Robertson Hurricane direct from Corgi in the good old days (i.e, before eBay). The other one came in a Corgi 'mystery parcel' along with a blue Hunter and a couple of civies!!

:D Shuttle

Agent X20
24th August 2005, 23:09
Knew we was one missing.. cannon Hurri..!

rmorley
25th August 2005, 10:36
I got the Neville Duke P-40 last night and what a corker!!! Here are some pictures of it with some chums!!

:) Shuttle

Lovely, old froot... great to see someone else who has QJ-R, the P-40 and another piece of Neville Duke memorabilia- mine is on display with his autograph!

Have to agree, would look super in a tropical dio setting...

shuttle
25th August 2005, 10:47
Now, if Corgi could model the prototype Hunter, that would be very nice!!

:D Shuttle

simonclarke1034
25th August 2005, 15:42
Got my "Neville Duke" P40 today, Superb model! :D

Dogtwenty
25th August 2005, 18:06
Agent,

Nope, 2 of them in the loft! However, the cannon Hurricane is on display.

If I remember correctly I got the Robertson Hurricane direct from Corgi in the good old days (i.e, before eBay). The other one came in a Corgi 'mystery parcel' along with a blue Hunter and a couple of civies!!

:D Shuttle

Really good! Love to see them all together like that, are you acquiring sand then?

rmorley
25th August 2005, 19:02
Now, if Corgi could model the prototype Hunter, that would be very nice!!

:D Shuttle

Why not go the whole hog and have a Tangmere Aviation Museum boxed set?

WB188 (as record breaker), Meteor F.4 (modified tooling with new tail), Meteor F.8, 1 Sqn. (France) Hurri, Spit proto...

Maybe even Neville Duke's autograph (He is president of the museum after all...)!

DCRanger
25th August 2005, 19:10
You do like your big box sets don't you! :)

rmorley
25th August 2005, 19:19
You do like your big box sets don't you! :)

Years of looking at mail order catalogues have tuned me to the frequency of the mail order company- boxes of lots of things, sold as exclusives or not available in stores make lots of money...

Anyway, Gibbes P-40 will go well alongside the Dragon RAAF Mustang- on another note, has anyone got a camo Dragon RAAF Mustang? It's advertised alongside the silver one on some sites, but there seems to be a total lack of proof of its existence! Any ideas?

Dogtwenty
25th August 2005, 22:36
Not keen on these box sets lads, I think the 1 Sqn set was a shot in the dark and a Tangmere set, well, how many of those would be going for fifty squid, signed by Duke or not? Better off with singles or pairs methinks, or you'll end up with boxes in the attic with stuff you dont want or like - count me out

jetfan
26th August 2005, 17:20
Morley, you can't modify a Meteor 8 into a Meteor 4 just by changing the tail feathers. The Mark 8 had an extra 30 inches or so added to the fuselage just behind the cockpit for an additional fuel tank.

rmorley
27th August 2005, 10:24
Morley, you can't modify a Meteor 8 into a Meteor 4 just by changing the tail feathers. The Mark 8 had an extra 30 inches or so added to the fuselage just behind the cockpit for an additional fuel tank.

I stand corrected...

Dogtwenty
27th August 2005, 13:21
Can we get back onto the wonderful Neville Duke P40 thread please _ Thank you :cool:

no4mkit
27th August 2005, 19:21
on another note, has anyone got a camo Dragon RAAF Mustang? It's advertised alongside the silver one on some sites, but there seems to be a total lack of proof of its existence! Any ideas?

rmorley, I'm afraid it's just one of a long list that Dragon tempted us with and never delivered. :(

Still want my JG26 Me109E, 'Lord Is My Shepherd" P51D, et al...

Love that Duke P-40 though!!! :)

Dogtwenty
30th August 2005, 20:58
Glad you do No4, I've still to get mine, rubber band burn or no rubber band burn, its still a good un! :cool:

rmorley
31st August 2005, 09:17
Whilst I was preparing the useless box for storage/recycling/third world home, I noticed that it said LG139, Libya, 1943. This seemed odd, because AK578 was an early Curtiss, sporting type A/A1 roundels. So, I had a look in my books, and on the internet (by searching for AK578), and it came up with 112 Sqn. Curtiss codes- stating that it was in the first months of 1942 that Duke made his final claims in a Curtiss. In fact, by November, Duke had moved on to 92 Sqn., and GA-V was later taken by a Kittyhawk III.

Does anyone else have this problem on their box? Is it universal?

minter
31st August 2005, 10:40
wouldnt worry about it,....get yellow 2 190, it defended the 4th reich and the pilot joined the staffel in 1952 :rolleyes:

rmorley
31st August 2005, 12:56
wouldnt worry about it,....get yellow 2 190, it defended the 4th reich and the pilot joined the staffel in 1952 :rolleyes:

And the Hawker Fury was developed in 1935 in response to Fw 190s of the 4th Reich. :D :D

(Courtesy of a book belonging to yours truly)

Geoff K
31st August 2005, 22:24
I noticed that on one side the serial number is on a dark green background, presumably the desert camo scheme was painted over dark green & this was done to avoid having to repaint the serial.

On the other side, the serial is painted over the desert camo.

Was it like this on the actual aircraft???

Geoff.

DCRanger
1st September 2005, 00:15
Occasionally some one makes a post that encourages me to take some exercise. That was one, I had to get up out of the seat and check my model in the cabinet. I hadn't noticed before that the two sides were different. Must have been too busy looking at the rub marks caused by that rubber band. :D

Celtic
1st September 2005, 06:01
I noticed that on one side the serial number is on a dark green background, presumably the desert camo scheme was painted over dark green & this was done to avoid having to repaint the serial.

On the other side, the serial is painted over the desert camo.

Was it like this on the actual aircraft???

Geoff.
Yes. It is pictured this way on page 12, Vol 10 of "Wings of Fame". Also, the red in the sharks mouth is pictured behind the top teeth, as in the model. Hurricane JV-Z, AA32003, is pictured on page 14 of the same volume.

Dogtwenty
1st September 2005, 09:21
At least the serials are accurately depicted then! Perhaps the Ladybird book of aircraft colour schemes ought to be removed from Corgi's shelves and replaced by more up to date and reliably researched books......... methinks :confused:

Martin Bull
11th May 2007, 16:53
Up comes another prehistoric thread from the depths of the Forum.....:unsure:

Despite having no interest in the P-40, I recently purchased the 'Neville Duke' 112 Squadron Leg End one very cheaply on evilbay from another Forum member.

Rather glad I did, actually....I seemed to remember the model getting high praise from those who know a lot more about P-40s than me ; and this was the thread I rhad in mind. A very pretty model indeed, and the prop on my example certainly doesn't droop. I shan't be getting other P-40s but this one will do very nicely.....:cool

DCRanger
11th May 2007, 20:28
Overall a nice model but one of the early QC probs. At the time I bought mine I had to sort through quite a lot to find the best one. A lot of of them had national markings that didn't fill the panall lines.

Martin Bull
11th May 2007, 20:58
Thanks, DCR - I must have been lucky ; no droopy prop and all panel lines filled ! :)

minter
11th May 2007, 21:41
Up comes another prehistoric thread from the depths of the Forum.....:unsure:

Despite having no interest in the P-40, I recently purchased the 'Neville Duke' 112 Squadron Leg End one very cheaply on evilbay from another Forum member.

Rather glad I did, actually....I seemed to remember the model getting high praise from those who know a lot more about P-40s than me ; and this was the thread I rhad in mind. A very pretty model indeed, and the prop on my example certainly doesn't droop. I shan't be getting other P-40s but this one will do very nicely.....:cool

not too interested in p-40s like you say but i think corgi hit the nail on the head with it, i have gibsons one and its a nice little number, might get an american livery as well