NEC Toyfairs

[CFBC]

Weeyhheyyyy.... 29th August - NEC.........

BIG one........

Lots of bargains? Lets hope so.......:)

[Typhoon-MKV]

Thought you were'nt going?????

[spock1]

Lots of bargains? Lets hope so.......:)

:D If theres anything left worth dumping you will more than likely find it there!! :confused:

If its less than Agents operatic magical figure it ain't worth the table/floor space!! Any dealer with a grain of common sense would take it to their local Corporation Tip first !!! ....... imho ....... but then I am probably in a minority of one ......... :eek:

[spock1]

:D Well its nearly upon us though seemingly forgotten in the excitement of the airshows and other breaking news!! Just a reminder that Sunday the 29th is the day and likely bargains a plenty to be had!! :cool:

[Lofty]

You gettin' your "bargains" from NEC then Mr Spock?
If you are, get me a Coastal Command Libby for 45 quid or there abouts....(preferably cheaper) :D
PULEEZE

[Typhoon-MKV]

You gettin' your "bargains" from NEC then Mr Spock?
If you are, get me a Coastal Command Libby for 45 quid or there abouts....(preferably cheaper) :D
PULEEZE


:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[CFBC]

I hear from our reporter on the ground that there are lots of bargains!!! Cannot wait for the report..... :)

[goonybird]

Whoa! Just back from NEC. Better than last one-didn't break my arm this time!!! :D . Had to hide some boxes from the mrs!. Old Crow (not the mrs) 1/32 mustang for 25 smackers. and finally got my drone herc and dday dakota 3-set at a decent price. Best bargain I saw but out of cash (rats)was the B17 3-set with p47 and p51. 1/72nd for a decent £39.50! :eek: that was £147.99 retail. cheap as chips! Other buys were Dragon f16 (£11) and a slightly marked plastic travel agent type plane, TNT colors Airbus A300F in approx 1/100th (21"long).gotta be worth the 15 squids.
other notables were probably the US mossie @12; dayglo chinook @12.50.
It appears market forces have changed Corgis policy re : dumping??

'remember it's just a game'

[CFBC]

Wow... This is more serious than I had thought.... Looks like and sounds like Corgi are having a MAJOR clearout of slightly older productions.... Manamagement at Corgi are clearing the shelves and bringing in some dosh however and trying to free-up some cash for something.......

Very interesting... Be curious to hear what Mr Spock has to say on the matter as I knowhe was visiting too....

Thanks Mr Goonybird, hope the arms ok!! :)

[Lofty]

Did any of you b*ggers get me my coastal Libby as per instructions? :mad:

[goonybird]

Wow... This is more serious than I had thought.... Looks like and sounds like Corgi are having a MAJOR clearout of slightly older productions.... Manamagement at Corgi are clearing the shelves and bringing in some dosh however and trying to free-up some cash for something..

yeah, probably some more Yorks-maybe even a pink one! :p

[charley]

Went to NEC today! Although i didn't buy there was some very cheap AA's floating around...

The award for best VALUE FOR MONEY corgi ever has to be the 1:32 Spitfire at £25.00! Closely followed by the 'Pathfinders Set' at £40.00

A lot of the 'First Half 2004' single seat fighters were going for £10.00 and Buccaneers galore at £7.50 (What a shame... Bucc's a lovely model, what a way to go :( ) i have one Bucc that i paid £26.00 when it come out! :mad:

The 1:18 Spitfires are intresting... not for the serious collecor however probably great fun if you have kids!!! :D Not sure it would wash with my missus... don't think it would fit in my Daughters 'My little pony' stable! :D

Although i didn't buy it was a good fair and i enjoyed! :)

[goonybird]

Hi Charley where u from? I was @ NEC and ignored the 1/18 spits as looked a bit plasticky. on a separate string see back page Aviation News. A fairly well known supplier advertising an Elite force range including an F/A 18 Hornet in 1/18th (thats nearly 3foot long for you non-metric types.) :cool:

[ascot]

I saw that add; is it a toy or a serious collectors model....a toy me thinks

[goonybird]

Obviously plastic, but piccie looks good. But how the hell do you get this one past the mrs. :confused:

[charley]

I have a 1:18 Corsair and although its very well detailed it just feels 'toy' like! No bad thing, it hangs from my 'study' ceiling and looks fab! :cool:

The Spitfires look big and bold...more for the kids me thinks but good fun!!!

[spock1]

I saw that add; is it a toy or a serious collectors model....a toy me thinks
:D Ascot - The title says it all, these items are really toys and more akin to made up plastic kits. I believe we will find that this is where Corgi sees their future!! :confused:

PS - I hope I am wrong. ;)

[spock1]

Did any of you b*ggers get me my coastal Libby as per instructions? :mad:
:) Mr. Lofty, - I suspect you may have to wait awhile for that one, mega cheap examples are going to be few and far between!! :)

[spock1]

:confused: For those that saw some of the prices at the NEC I think you will find that on many items they will not last for long, certainly some of the dealers will be seeing little if indeed any profit margin which anyone with even the slightest appreciation of business will know cannot be sustained!! :)

Another way of looking at it is simply the longer it goes on the less dealers their will be. :mad:

As regards the £40 ?? Pathfinder Set (thought it was £50!! ... probably was first thing) then think you would have found the box to be totally cream crackered/French Connected . All that glistens ain't necessarily gold!! :cool:

[charley]

Pathfinder box was damaged and 'French Connected' as you put it :D !

I agree with you though, i think prices will firm up as less dealers get involved. Talking to one dealer Corgi are saying that they will be producing less of each example for the '05' releases, they have too if the brand is to grow...

[Agent X20]

Trouble is the extra's, the difference between say 2000 and 4000 models costs Corgi very little...

I think, only an opinion, that they will dispense with the limited edition numbers.. as this gives us an indication as to the likely dumpster value..!!

[raff]

Charley, Gooney .... I was there and am sorry to have missed the opportunity to say hello. Was walking around with a Forum badge on, but obviously we need to get T shirts or invasion striped Anoraks or something issued for recognition purposes! My own fault, I should have arranged something on here last week. Never mind .. there will be other times.

Other bargains [dumps?] I noticed were the "Booby Trap" and You Can't Miss it" Liberators, at £30 and the B52 with X-15 at £17.50 [dammit!]. :mad:
I'm not sure what prompted this glut but I certainly can have some sympathy with dealers who had these models on their stalls at something more approaching rrp,... but hope they can understand how collectors feel when only a few weeks ago they payed almost double for 'em! Strangely though, [sorry Lofty] the Coastal Command Liberator was still at £55 ... so perhaps it has a lot to do with the popularity of the model version too.

Finally gave in and bought me Canberra ... couldn't resist any longer even though I'm sure it'll be around for a lot less than I paid for it in a few weeks time :( ... still, ... it's a cracking model, and I'm worth it .. whatever the present Mrs raff may think!

raff

[goonybird]

Charley, Gooney .... I was there and am sorry to have missed the opportunity to say hello. Was walking around with a Forum badge on, but obviously we need to get T shirts or invasion striped Anoraks or something issued for recognition purposes! My own fault, I should have arranged something on here last week. Never mind .. there will be other times.raff

I had my Air Spain Britannia shirt on! But oughta arrange in advance, next Nec?? Like the idea of D-day striped shirts but I don't support Newcastle!!
You would think we would be obvious to spot as 'Corgiitus Collectoritus' Usually spotted rummaging head down amongst boxes of model planes, whilst exhibiting the characteristic twitch, and muttering about overspray and pink yorks. :D

[charley]

Good shout guys...my desicion to attend was a bit last minute! Didn't realise there was a forum badge! :confused:

[NeilD]

Hmmm not a badge as such, just a dodgy pair of shorts, a camera in one hand and a can of Fosters in the other!! :D and of course a VIP pass hanging round your neck!

[CFBC]

Mr NeilD,

Be nice to a fellow member!!! Please.... Nothing wrong with a can of Fosters? For these comments, you must owe me!!

What day, early Am? :)

[raff]

Yup, we will do it better next time. The badge was made up using an old exhibition entry with the forum logo on it. I regret to inform you that I will not, repeat not be seen in shorts ... unless of course they are taylored. :cool:

raff

[CFBC]

I regret to inform you that I will not, repeat not be seen in shorts ... unless of course they are taylored. :cool: raff
Be careful - It can be arranged..... ;)

[goonybird]

Next NEC Sunday 17th October according to my diary - Must make sure I remember to take some Fosters.

[eismeer]

Hi guys. Was just wondering if any of you will be making your way to the NEC this weekend. I will. But then i only live about four miles away. :D

[spock1]

:) Mr. Eismeer,

I will be there as usual, initial indications look promising for a good fair with improved dealer support!!!.......... ;)

[eismeer]

Hi Mr Spock. Thats a fair old jaunt from your neck of the woods. Will you be trading or looking for the odd bargain :). I will have to keep my eyes peeled for a man with pointed ears and performing mind melds on unsuspecting punters :D .

[Typhoon-MKV]

There are usually some folks go to the NEC from this Forum - Mr Raff and Mr CFBC being two...

Gents....

[CFBC]

I will not be attending the Toyfair.... :(. I am committed elsewhere...... :mad:

Even that is under debate at present.......

[CFBC]

Hi Mr Spock. Thats a fair old jaunt from your neck of the woods. Will you be trading or looking for the odd bargain :). I will have to keep my eyes peeled for a man with pointed ears and performing mind melds on unsuspecting punters :D .

Eismeer... Once seen, never missed again!!! :p

[Red Leader]

I will try and make it to NEC. I've never ben to a toyfair there, but have been to NEC to see a concert a few years back . Is the toyfair in the same complex or is it a seperate building? Is it easy to find?

[eismeer]

Red Leader. Went to the last two toyfairs there and was in the same hall both times. Pretty easy to find but just make sure you park in the right car park or it can be a long walk :) .

[Agent X20]

Have to see if we can visit Mrs Agents outlaws..

[Horrido!]

Red Leader
It's always in Hall 17. Go to http://www.necgroup.co.uk and download a map of the site. Try for car parks "N" (North).
Don't forget - don't pay carparking but make sure you get a ticket on the way out of the fair.

Horrido!

[Agent X20]

H... Thanks for that..

[Red Leader]

Yeah Thanks Horrido!

[spock1]

:D Agent,

I am somewhat eyebow raisingly suprprised that info. was not stored in the Sub's Computer Memory Banks or has it sprung a leak ??.... :cool:

Seriously though the Toy Fair at the NEC is one of the VERY few events at that venue where car parking is included BUT please make sure you get your tickets at the fair. Many do not and ultimately end up paying more than the going cost of the fabled York!!..... :( :)

[Agent X20]

so its a case of park up and collect a ticket in the hall.... dont remember that last time, but there again I dont remember much these days... mmm now where was I..?

[spock1]

:cool: You me both old fruit!!! Do the DF pills have memory restoring properties perhaps ??????? .......... even the Sanatogen is virtulally useless....hmmmmmm ........... :confused:

[goonybird]

Heard Viagra can be good- depends on where your brains are! :p
See you Sunday Spock1.

[raff]

I'm well and truly stuffed this time, it will be the first I've missed for ages... and the Mossie is out! :eek:
If you can keep the gloating down to a dull roar at your de briefing on Monday it would be appreciated!

Enjoy guys, and do let us know how you get on, including the number of hernias sustained carrying everything back to the cars!
[Bitter? moi?] :(
raff

[Agent X20]

raff...

Even with the glut of metal, they aint gonna be £40 by this Saturday...... I aint paying nearly hundred sovs for one... so you will still have one before me.. (I have to sort out a hole to put it in..!!)

[raff]

raff...

Even with the glut of metal, they aint gonna be £40 by this Saturday...... I aint paying nearly hundred sovs for one... so you will still have one before me.. (I have to sort out a hole to put it in..!!)

I know what you mean .. I don't intend paying a hundred sovs either! ... but I reckon it will be difficult sitting on me hands for long... Christmas maybe?
raff

[Agent X20]

Well summats got to give.. either the Mossies will be popular which means I get me Dambuster Lanc for £35... and perhaps a C/C Lib/17 for the same... or they stay as they are and the Mossies plummet.......

Think they will level out about £45/50... with the unpopular one/s at £35.... theres just too much metal in the market at present... 1000 collectors with 20,000 models.. hardly pocket money.. IMHO.. :D :D :D

[snafu]

.

Is your monicker anything to do with a FW 190 I once saw under restoration at Tom Reilly's place in Florida?

That carried the Eismeer badge on it's cowling, had been shot down in Norway.

[eismeer]

Hi snafu.

Yeah spot on. Eismeer jg5. saw service in northern Norway during WW11. Eismeer was an honourary title which roughly translated means frozen water.

The aviation artist Mark Postlethwaite did a good painting of 2 jg5 FW-190's flying over Herdla. Hope the link works :).

The painting looks much better than the link.

http://www.skyscapes.net/eismeer.html

[Typhoon-MKV]

Nice Artwork.

Oh dear another Aviation artist to checkout....

[snafu]

Nice one Eismeer. I think the FW190 has moved on from Tom Reilly's since I visited. Not sure where it went. I know the original pilot had visited his old plane and was longing to see it airborne once again.

[eismeer]

snafu.

Must be a real touching moment for these old vets to see aircraft restored and returned to the sky knowing that 60 odd years ago that they were flying that actual aircraft. Certainly bring a tear or two to the eyes i would think.

[spock1]

:confused: Sorry chaps and chappesses but what the eck's this got to do with the NEC?? Decorum in the Forum please and start a new thread. Its good but has its place!! ;)

[CFBC]

Spock1... How many stalls we get there then selling AA's.. Never been and hoping to get there in December!!

[eismeer]

spock1.

Apologies.Kinda got sidetracked. ;)

[spock1]

;) CFBC,

Impossible to predict but with max. of approx. 800 stalls the chances are pretty good oif finding something though time consuming!!!!!!!........ ;)

[spock1]

spock1.

Apologies.Kinda got sidetracked. ;)

:) Mr. Eismeer,

No apologies necessary but please feel free to start a new thread, it won't bite!!....... ;)

[Typhoon-MKV]

Spock1... How many stalls we get there then selling AA's.. Never been and hoping to get there in December!!

Yeah by which time there will be three 1/32 Mossies out, so the stalls ain't gonna have much room for anything else..... :eek: :eek: :D :D

[Agent X20]

Aaargh.. Outlaws coming down.. bum bum bum.... more slaving over a hot oven.... Agent Chef..

[goonybird]

Just got back from NEC.... Good smattering of AA's. One 'dumpster' had Liberators @ £29.50 Sky witch, Booby Trap, You Cawnt Miss It, Strawberry Bitch. 1 coastal @ £49.50. Dan Dare and Mats 707 @£15. Loadsa bargains as usual - if you needed them. And by god is the mossie box big! Do not buy if prone to hernias. :p

[eismeer]

Yeah me too....... :D

[eismeer]

Mr Spock.

I doubt if you will be reading this before late Monday morning :) .

Was nice meeting you.

[goonybird]

Yeah me too....... :D

Where were you man! I was wearing the obligitory forum badge! :eek:

[eismeer]

Goonybird.

I want wanna them too...... ;)

[spock1]

Mr Spock.

I doubt if you will be reading this before late Monday morning :) .

Was nice meeting you.

;) Mr. Eismeer,

Not far wrong and likewise!!............. :)

[goonybird]

Nice to meet you again Spock1 - and thank you so much for your impartial advice! ;)

[spock1]

:) Mr. GB..........Live long and prosper my friend, hopefully see you on Dec. 12th !!! .......... ;)

[Agent X20]

Nice to meet you again Spock1 - and thank you so much for your impartial advice! ;)

You aint bought all those Zeros he has out the back.. guaranteed investment... nudge nudge...

[spock1]

:D Agent,

Will send Saburo Sakai's relatives round for tiffin on the sub., any preferred day?? ............. :D :D

[Agent X20]

Kamikaze Day is best avoided... no pointy objects please... might spring a leak.....

[spock1]

:D :D Not to mention the mess on the floor!!!!......... :( :D

[Agent X20]

Naw sliced aquaphibian..... naw.....

[spock1]

:eek: Don't breath a word to Captain Bird's Eye!!! .......... :D

[CFBC]

Right, NEC (the BIG one) on the 12th December....... Who's going? Ive got my pass stamped already for this one...... :)

[eismeer]

Right, NEC (the BIG one) on the 12th December....... Who's going? Ive got my pass stamped already for this one...... :)

Yeah will definitely be there. Hopefully with a bit more dosh than i had at Donnington :( .

'The BIG one'. As this is just before Christmas is it usually better than others held in the year ?. As in even better bargains :D

[Agent X20]

.. depends who is there and who is rattling whose cage.... IMHO..

Will try to get there as Mrs Agents, my outtlaws are in W'hampton...

[The Defiant Man]

Hoping to make it. What time does it start?

[spock1]

:) Mr. DM,

10.30am to 4pm. Early bird admission from about 6.30am.......... :cool:

[The Defiant Man]

:) Mr. DM,

10.30am to 4pm. Early bird admission from about 6.30am.......... :cool:

Many thanks, Spock. Do you have to be a dealer for the early bird?? (doubt whether I could make it for that time anyway after a Saturday night... :rolleyes: )

[spock1]

:) Mr. DM,

Early bird entry for anyone with 15 quid to part with (£5 back on return of badge!!)....... :)

[The Defiant Man]

:) Mr. DM,

Early bird entry for anyone with 15 quid to part with (£5 back on return of badge!!)....... :)
Thanks again! :)

Question 3....

How much is the entrance during the respectable :rolleyes: hours?

[spock1]

:) Mr. DM,

£5 and that includes car parking though make sure you collect a ticket before leaving otherwise those awfully nice NEC peeps will try and charge you another £6 !! :)

[The Defiant Man]

Many thanks, Spock

[charley]

:) Mr. DM,

10.30am to 4pm. Early bird admission from about 6.30am.......... :cool:

Really? :confused:

[CFBC]

Tis true Charley, yeah..... 3.30am-4am start me thinks!! Right Stealth.... :)

[spock1]

Really? :confused:
:cool: Mr. Charley,

Yes really, says Early Birds from 7.15am on the blurb but have seen them in a lot earlier. Buses often advertise baked beans but they don't sell them... :confused: :rolleyes:

[charley]

:cool: Mr. Charley,

Yes really, says Early Birds from 7.15am on the blurb but have seen them in a lot earlier. Buses often advertise baked beans but they don't sell them... :confused: :rolleyes:

:D

How do you get an early bird ticket?

Sorry for the '20 questions!' :o

[CFBC]

Just turns-up at the time, like 6.30-7am and pays yer money..... As you would normally, but u pay more as stated previously Charley......

No worries for the questions... Its a Forum..

[charley]

Tis true Charley, yeah..... 3.30am-4am start me thinks!! Right Stealth.... :)


Well im doing a night out in Brum on the Saturday so i could get a cab straight to the NEC!!! :D :D

[spock1]

Tis true Charley, yeah..... 3.30am-4am start me thinks!! Right Stealth.... :)

:) CFBC,

Stallholders from 6am, so should that not be 3am to 3.30am??? ;)

[NeilD]

are you organising a coach trip CFBC ?? :D

I wasn't planning on buying anything this side of Christmas, however seeing the bargains others have picked up at fairs recently it may finally be the time for me to go to the Dark Side and buy my first 1/32 Mustang... or even a 1/72 CC Lib. :eek: hopefully by then should be able to pick up the pair for £50 ??

[Typhoon-MKV]

Tis true Charley, yeah..... 3.30am-4am start me thinks!! Right Stealth.... :)

I could think of a response but the censorship engine would ****** it out......

[spock1]

:p Mr. Stealth,

Early bird catches the worm usually, trouble these days is too many worms and not enough early birds...........hmmmmmmmmm............ :rolleyes:

[CFBC]

Oh Stealth.... Wheres your commitment?

[spock1]

Oh Stealth.... Wheres your commitment?

:D Seemingly, 'Gone with the Wind,' and deep in the 'Land of Nod!!'...... :rolleyes:

[CFBC]

:D Seemingly, 'Gone with the Wind,' and deep in the 'Land of Nod!!'...... :rolleyes:
Yeah - Typical.... Probably fell asleep at the keyboard again.... Cana get the staff nowadays...:rolleyes:

[spock1]

:D CFBC,

Tell me about it!!!................ :D :confused: :mad: :( :rolleyes:

[CFBC]

Sympathise with yer with your staff..... Ear chewed off all the time!!! Shh.... Don't tell Mrs Spock1.... Or nanna Spock1??

:confused:

[Typhoon-MKV]

:p Mr. Stealth,

Early bird catches the worm usually, trouble these days is too many worms and not enough early birds...........hmmmmmmmmm............ :rolleyes:

Yeah I hear the early bird usually has a trolley nowadays!!!!!!!

[spock1]

:D Mr. Stealth,

Not to mention the dirty great big box van outside........... :D :D

NEC = eBay fodder + the smaller fairs!!!!!!!!.......... ;)

[spock1]

Sympathise with yer with your staff..... Ear chewed off all the time!!! Shh.... Don't tell Mrs Spock1.... Or nanna Spock1??

:confused:

:D CFBC,

Funnily enough they are a bit more switched on at the moment, so to speak!!!!!!....... ;)

[goonybird]

NEC = eBay fodder + the smaller fairs!!!!!!!!.......... ;)

Bang on spock1. go straight to warp drive , do not pass go etc. etc..
Trouble with these delboy types is they often don't leave anything for the rest of us! The times you go to a stand and find 20 of what you went for 1 of, has disappeared before the doors opened. :mad:

[spock1]

:) And hence the Early Bird facility who have opprtunity to beat the dealers for a relatively modest price!!!............. :cool:

[charley]

i think Charley might have to give this early bird thing a go!!! :rolleyes:

[CFBC]

:) And hence the Early Bird facility who have opprtunity to beat the dealers for a relatively modest price!!!............. :cool:
What? They do..... Hmmm. I would question that...... ;)

[Typhoon-MKV]

What? They do..... Hmmm. I would question that...... ;)


Yeah especially one's with big trollies..... ;) ;) ;)

[raff]

What? They do..... Hmmm. I would question that...... ;)

Me too! :rolleyes:

Raff

[CFBC]

I hear Mr Raffs bringing mince pies and sherry to the NEC? Make a "punch" will it not....... Festive frolics at the NEC....... :)

[The Defiant Man]

I hear Raff ure briing mince pies and sherry to the NEC? Make a "punch" will it not....... Festive frolics at the NEC....... :)

Oh dear, you've let a moderator's id out of the bag there...

[CFBC]

Oh dear, you've let a moderator's id out of the bag there...
Sorry Mr D/F Man, you have lost me know..... Mr Raffs visiting so I hear and promissed to bring the mince pies as I know another member has...... Moderator..... Is he..... LOLOLOLOL. :D

[The Defiant Man]

In that case there should be two lots to go round, as somebody was saying elsewhere that Mr White was bringing some??

[spock1]

What? They do..... Hmmm. I would question that...... ;)

:confused: Mr. CFBC,

Please elaborate!!!

To quote a shining example I have seen certain delaers and early birds flock to particular stalls at Lincolnshire Toy Fair whilst other 'Early Birds' have scooped the real bargains from right under their noses!!! One dealer in particular had said bargains right next to him but missed them completely!!! :D

[CFBC]

:confused: Mr. CFBC,

Please elaborate!!!

To quote a shining example I have seen certain delaers and early birds flock to particular stalls at Lincolnshire Toy Fair whilst other 'Early Birds' have scooped the real bargains from right under their noses!!! One dealer in particular had said bargains right next to him but missed them completely!!! :D
Yes Mr Spock1 and this is true. I even know the two traders they were too and quite funny it was also, but you also get trader deal with trader even before said earlybirds have arrived, but alas both ways, that is the natures of the fair's and as you quite rightly say "early bird catches the worm"....

Wish I were an owl.... :)

[spock1]

Wish I were an owl.... :)

:D CFBC.........Would that be a Night Owl per chance??????....... ;)

[CFBC]

Thats certainly what I was inferring...... All night and early morning too..... :D

[raff]

Sorry Mr D/F Man, you have lost me know..... Mr Raffs visiting so I hear and promissed to bring the mince pies as I know another member has...... Moderator..... Is he..... LOLOLOLOL. :D

Well ..if this 'ere Mr White's bringing mince pies and stuff I most certainly will not be. I might run to a couple of doughnuts to compliment your Jaffa cakes but that's it.
I wouldn't want to be a moderator anyway. Not if it meant having photographs of me manly torso spread about all over a certain forum.


Raff

[Agent X20]

Yep you too busy buying all them cheap AA's in York the other day.... along with that Lev guy....

[raff]

Yep you too busy buying all them cheap AA's in York the other day.... along with that Lev guy....

By the way ... how's it looking for you on the 12th? Any chance you can make it? There will be a few moderators there who might want to shake you by the neck! :D
Raff

[Agent X20]

This NEC......??? We are in the middle of funerals again and things to sort out so at the moment have no idea.... Would be nice to.. The one I am hoping to get to will be the Huntingdon one where I shall pick up me PRU Mossie for £40.. (will give £40 to a dealer and tell em to deliver it when it gets to that price... bit like shares.. buy and sell options..)

[spock1]

who might want to shake you by the neck! :D
Raff

:D Mr. RAFF,

Is this the Forum equivalent of the Masonic funny handshake ...???????? :D :confused: ;)

[raff]

This NEC......??? We are in the middle of funerals again and things to sort out so at the moment have no idea.... Would be nice to.. The one I am hoping to get to will be the Huntingdon one where I shall pick up me PRU Mossie for £40.. (will give £40 to a dealer and tell em to deliver it when it gets to that price... bit like shares.. buy and sell options..)


Ah Mossie futures ... that's the thing to get into! :eek:
Raff

[Agent X20]

Nice isnt it..
.... mmm... <wonders>.. this a set up by Mrs Agent..? :D

[spock1]

:D Mr. Raff, Agent and all,

As per those car adverts........ SIZE MATTERS!!!!!!!!!! :D :cool: :rolleyes:

[Agent X20]

What......? being shaken by the neck.....?? :D

[spock1]

What......? being shaken by the neck.....?? :D

:D Oh Dear, Agent .......... me thinks its been a long day and past our bedtimes old chum!!!...........Was referring to 1/72 v 1/32 not your collar size!!!......... :D

[Agent X20]

Twas Mr Raff's threat...... :o

[CFBC]

Do we need to set-up a wrestling ring at the NEC than Mr Raff/Mr Agent.... That could be interesting.... :p

[Agent X20]

Mud wrestling... wicked.. be popular....!!!

[CFBC]

Well, ermm, not what I was thinking, but..... :confused:

[Agent X20]

Rather than a ring.. how about a Bar...

[CFBC]

Now yer talking.... Sod it.. Stealth - YOUR driving..... :)

[snafu]

Have you got an idea of who's attending CFBC?

[CFBC]

I know theres about six of us roughly, but hoping that a few peeps will drop-in and see us.....

Thats right guys isn't it......? :D

[snafu]

So who's going to be there? Guys identify yourselves.....

[CFBC]

I am .... :)

[raff]

I am .... :)
and me. :cool:
Raff

[Typhoon-MKV]

I been told I'm going.....

[ascot]

I am waiting for some one to cover my leave, if so I will be there.

[goonybird]

Unfortunately for you guys I'll be there!!
Don't know who as yet :confused:

[CFBC]

I been told I'm going.....
And i am picking yer up at 5am too..... :)

[Typhoon-MKV]

And i am picking yer up at 5am too..... :)

Oh dear don't wake Mrs Stealth :eek: :eek: :eek:

Not a morning person......

[CFBC]

BY the looks of this posting, shes already used to you being-up at the crack o dawn!! :p

[ascot]

What's Dawn's crack got to do with this :p

[spock1]

:D Ascot,

Where else is the worm supposed to take refuge from the Early Bird???...... ;)

[ascot]

True the early bird catches the worm but the late bird catches the one eyed trouser snake :p

[NeilD]

I noticed theres one on the 27th Feb... was the Decemeber one typical regarding turnout, prices etc, or is there such a thing as a typical toyfair?

[CFBC]

Typical toyfair....? Hmm... I don't think there is a typical toyfair Neild.... There is one creeping-up on us, but what I do know is if yer going Early Entry.... Theyve stuffed-up the price..... So I believe talking to a few guys at Harrogate..... I have to sit this one out.... So mrs CFBC say's.... She's seen all me Armour....!! Pity I canna wear the stuff..... :o :rolleyes:

Best I hide the other stuff due next week...... :eek:

[charley]

Whats the score with opening times/early bird at NEC next weekend?

[eismeer]

So who's gonna be there on Sunday ?. Anybody from the forum turning up?.

First time i went to a toy fair i was on my own. Next time a mate got interested and came along. This time there will be 6 of us. Just hope we aint all fighting for the same bargain or somebody could end up walking home :D

[japadvan]

I will be getting the coach from London early on Sun.

Fancied a look round the NEC, though will not be buying anything very large.

See some of you guys there maybe......

Regards,

[goonybird]

you will when you've seen the prices :D

[CFBC]

That could be quite true G/B the way Evilbay is looking at present and Corgi clearout of 2004 stuff..... :rolleyes:

[goonybird]

S'pose it's down to me then. NEC today. C**P?
Obviously missing a certain cheapo dealer. the two other main dumpsters had nothing special. RCAF lancs were around £20-22 not so many libs and other bin ends. Bargain was probably the Victor/Vulcan twinset at £40. New seac welly £50. Wish I'd the cash for NGNG at a tenner (still!!) Not much new in evidence. Opposite to what I was expecting, but supports whats has been posted. I went today with the mission to pick up the two new Gemini 250 B737s. but spent my money elsewhere on the 400ths as posted. £95 for a collection. Still not sure, and that was after advice from a (in)famous enthusiast/specialist trader. Overall a bit of a let down. And didn't have time to go to the Digital Imaging show next door. :(

[spock1]

:D Mr.GB,

You blags a bargain and still unsure ?? Have faith my friend !!........ :confused:

:confused: As to the Fair I can only say the bargains were there to be had as indeed some were, though one in particular was a dealer error due to reasons best not publicly mentioned !!!!!!......... :(

[Agent X20]

:D Just how many more RCAF Lancs are there out there....?????

From a start of 2000.....

Does make yer wonder if they could sell 300..!! :D

[CFBC]

Looks like I didn't miss much then.. Thought it may be like that......

[Martin Bull]

...hmmmm.....glad I didn't drive up from London, then ! :eek:

Think I'll wait for the Duxford Airshow season to commence.

[japadvan]

Picked up a certain Phantom (Cheers Mate!!) and was contemplating an
Armour Tornado for £35, but did not think it would last journey home.

Going off topic....had to laugh at the crazy prices asked for some "Action Man" figures, a stonking £145 !!!!

Never been to the NEC before, hell of a walk from the entrance to the Hall, was just tucking my prized entry ticket away, when some kind lady promptly took it off me!!!!!!!! (??????)

Fiancee rounded off the day by somersaulting a cup of scalding coffee into a plant holder, and I paid 20p at Birmingham Coach Station for the honour of using their loo.......'orrible !

[Agent X20]

Fiancee rounded off the day by somersaulting a cup of scalding coffee into a plant holder, and I paid 20p at Birmingham Coach Station for the honour of using their loo.......'orrible !

Should have used the plant holder.... :D :D :D

[Red Leader]

Is it NEC toyfair this comming bank holiday weekend anyone know?

[The Defiant Man]

Is it NEC toyfair this comming bank holiday weekend anyone know?
Yes it is - Sunday 29th.

[Red Leader]

Thanks Defiant! Are you and any others planning on going? Maybe a meet up!

[The Defiant Man]

Thanks Defiant! Are you and any others planning on going? Maybe a meet up!
Bit far old chum....see my location! :cool:

[CFBC]

Sorry R/L, spent enough this week with a couple more purchases planned tomorrow :D

Nice and sunny location hey D/M... When yer flying? Or are you bored of sun sand and shandy that you have found a cyber-cafe..... :cool:

[goonybird]

NEC today. Dumpsters had very little to offer (sounds like supplies truncated).
In fact a bit boring all round, with the exception of Spock and Bluesky? Only came away with a legends dc3 and a Capital Viscount (sitting all alone on a dumpsters stall) if this can hang around at a bargain price, then doesn't bode well for new civvies. doom gloom :D :D
It appears the playing field is changing for dealers and punters alike.

Didn't know 'Shuttle' was in prison! But fear not....there is a campaign in Birmingham to get him released :) ......All the buses at the NEC have the statement...
"FREE SHUTTLE" across their back windows! :D :D :D

[P51D]

As mentioned by Goonybird not as much to choose from as at the last NEC. For this reason ended up buying a few things I planned to and a few I hadn't.
Was actually after a couple of blue corsairs :eek: which, not suprisingly, I found in the bins (even cheaper than I expected) so that was good.

Particularly pleased with a little 1:72 scale metal jeep (Cararama) that I picked up for £1.50. It's very detailed and looks great in the cabinet next to my Dragon P51's

Good day out all round and good to see Aces again (who first told me about this site)

[Red Leader]

Yes I'd agree there wasn't that much about. I got one of the nose art P51's and a D day DC3.I noticed that the new 4 piece RAF sets were on sale for £75!! I thought it was still too much to spend on it though.

[The Defiant Man]

Sorry R/L, spent enough this week with a couple more purchases planned tomorrow :D

Nice and sunny location hey D/M... When yer flying? Or are you bored of sun sand and shandy that you have found a cyber-cafe..... :cool:

Posh hotel.....internet in reception area....trouble is the keyboards a German one with the Z and Y the wrong way round and no pound sign :confused:

Nearly all Germans here.....good job I didn´t bring my Spitfire t-shirt :rolleyes:

Back in just over a week.....

Shame about NEC....not looking too promising for Harrogate in a couple of weeks :(

:cool:

[Agent X20]

Bet your menu is a darn sight easier to understand than the one I am working on...!!

Have fun...

DONT MENTION THE WAR...!!

[spock1]

Nearly all Germans here.....good job I didn´t bring my Spitfire t-shirt :rolleyes:
:cool:

:D Best not go whistling the Dambusters theme either ........ ;) :D

[P51D]

Good day out all round and good to see Aces again (who first told me about this site)

In case Aces is thinking 'I wasn't there, who are you?' I'm still learning peoples forum names and was actually refering to Blue Sky.

Well laid out stands as usual by Blue Sky and Spock and easy to find among the others with some larger AA's displayed high up

[spock1]

:) For those of you not pre-occupied with Elvington and the likes a reminder that the NEC Toy Fair is this Sunday 21st August. Hall 17, 10.30am to 4pm. Likely there will be bargains a plenty .......... ;) :)

[CFBC]

Be interesting to get some reports back from "collectors" as to how much metal and what sort of prices were about at the NEC as at present (as stated by many) the amount of metal flying around is doing all the damage.....

Be interesting to hear..... :)

[neighbob]

:) For those of you not pre-occupied with Elvington and the likes a reminder that the NEC Toy Fair is this Sunday 21st August. Hall 17, 10.30am to 4pm. Likely there will be bargains a plenty .......... ;) :)


Is this the major event that the boards were flashing about whilst heading down the M6 yesterday and warning there could be conjestion?



When is the M6 not conjested?

[spock1]

When is the M6 not conjested?

:D When are the boards not flashing ?? ......... :confused: ;) :D

[neighbob]

:D When are the boards not flashing ?? ......... :confused: ;) :D


When there broken :rolleyes:

[CFBC]

When is the M6 not conjested? :D

[neighbob]

When is the M6 not conjested? :D


I think someone else said that. :D (176)

[CFBC]

Opps. :o

[neighbob]

Opps. :o


Don't you mean oops


Jet lagged still or just a bad day? :D

[CFBC]

Both... :D

[Rusty]

What's the deal with this NEC thing then? Have car, can travel (from SE London though :( ), but should I?

Give me a quick tutorial!

[P51D]

What's the deal with this NEC thing then? Have car, can travel (from SE London though :( ), but should I?

Give me a quick tutorial!

I think it's because it's one of the biggest UK toy fairs and is a fair representation of what is happening with Corgi/Dumping.

I will be going tomorrow so will report back with some prices etc.

I always enjoy going to the NEC as it's not too far for me (Cheltenham) but I personally wouldn't travel all the way from the other side of London Rusty (I imagine you get some pretty decent fairs near you anyway don't you?)

[Rusty]

I think it's because it's one of the biggest UK toy fairs and is a fair representation of what is happening with Corgi/Dumping.

I will be going tomorrow so will report back with some prices etc.

I always enjoy going to the NEC as it's not too far for me (Cheltenham) but I personally wouldn't travel all the way from the other side of London Rusty (I imagine you get some pretty decent fairs near you anyway don't you?)

Hmmm, well that is the problem you see. There is in fact nothing in London. No toyfairs, no swopmeets, nothing except a couple of M/Zs. ...and no DeAg mags either.

The route planner thing from michelin says 2hr15min from my postcode, realistic?

[Martin Bull]

Actually, that's a good point - London is a bit of an AA wasteland. :(

Still, look on the bright side - we've got the IWM, RAF Museum, Mossie Museum, Duxford's not too far away - oh, and we nicked the Me262 from Cosford....

( :p :p :p )

[CFBC]

Rusty,

You would be better travelling to Brentwood Toyfairs when that is on than the NEC..... Thats just my opinion though.... ;)

[P51D]

Hmmm, well that is the problem you see. There is in fact nothing in London. No toyfairs, no swopmeets, nothing except a couple of M/Zs. ...and no DeAg mags either.

The route planner thing from michelin says 2hr15min from my postcode, realistic?

If you view it as a day out it might be worth it......BUT nowhere near as many stalls selling just AA's last time I went as there were a year or so ago (just 4 I think)

If your after any of the latest releases you probably wont save much money on them.

Older stuff can be very cheap if they happen to have anything you want (usally plenty of Corsairs, Zero's big stuff etc.....rare to find valuable stuff marked up cheap which you used to hear about)

Seems to be a smaller selection each time I go possibly due to changes within Corgi will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow

[Rusty]

Actually, that's a good point - London is a bit of an AA wasteland. :(

Still, look on the bright side - we've got the IWM, RAF Museum, Mossie Museum, Duxford's not too far away - oh, and we nicked the Me262 from Cosford....

( :p :p :p )

Too right! Free entry to IWM too... one of the only reasons to go near elephant&castle!

Thanks for the advice guys. I guess I'll do what I originally planned (and am supposed to be doing :) ) tomorrow and await P51Ds report!

[P51D]

Just back, OK I will try to sum things up and give an idea of the kind of prices models were going for.

Seems the dumping goes on (including the newer lower production runs) although maybe not such huge quantities as before.

I don't collect big stuff (1:32 fighters, 1:72 bombers or civils) and don't know what the MRRP on them is but they seemed to represent a lot of metal per £ (not surprisingly)
1:32 Mossies from £42
1:32 ME109's from £27
1:32 P51D's from £19.99
1:72 Libs from £17
1:72 B17 from £19.99
1:72 B17, P51, P-47 £29.99
1:144 civils (don't ask me what) from £7

I bought about half a dozen 1:72 warbirds for around £10 each including the P-47 'daring dottie' which I very nearly bought a couple of weeks ago for close to MRRP.

Anyway despite the above I will continue to buy the models that I really like for near MRRP when they come out and get the ones I quite like if they turn up cheap. This seems to work for me as very few these (the ones I really like) ever seem to crop up that cheaply at a later date. :)

One guy was selling a whole range of plastic 1:72 warbirds for about £6 or £7 quid each (I will find the relevant thread and go into this a bit more when I have some time)

Bargain of the day?
As usual something I didn't go for or expect to find there!
2 books "the enclopedia of air warfair" and "the encyclopedia of the worlds combat aircraft" both full of colour pics and profiles, excellent! Both £2 each :D

[goonybird]

Not much to add to P51's comments. Much less in evidence. It does appear that what is cheap is older stuff, and when thats gone, thats it.
However I did buy my first Corgi for a while. Got the new, just released, Western DC3 for £**.** :) . Cheap enough for me, and while not dump price, puts a bit of a mockery on Corgi's so called new pricing policy. :confused:
Also bought the new Aeroclassics 1/400th Air Atlantic/que set of DC3,Electra, DC6. Still cant help feeling that these are too small. :)

And why was the SEAC Wellington at £30 still there at 2pm, after I'd seen the same stall with it at Westpoint 2 weeks ago. If that doesn't go 'tis a poor lookout. :(

[Agent X20]

And why was the SEAC Wellington at £30 still there at 2pm, (

Because there are XX,XXX Wellingtons out there... XX collectors, well okay XXX collectors... and the promise of a Coastal Command one later...

[Rusty]

Not much to add to P51's comments. Much less in evidence. It does appear that what is cheap is older stuff, and when thats gone, thats it.
However I did buy my first Corgi for a while. Got the new, just released, Western DC3 for £**.** :) . Cheap enough for me, and while not dump price, puts a bit of a mockery on Corgi's so called new pricing policy. :confused:
Also bought the new Aeroclassics 1/400th Air Atlantic/que set of DC3,Electra, DC6. Still cant help feeling that these are too small. :)

And why was the SEAC Wellington at £30 still there at 2pm, after I'd seen the same stall with it at Westpoint 2 weeks ago. If that doesn't go 'tis a poor lookout. :(

Arrrrggghhh! Knew I should have gone! I've been waiting a long time for the SEAC Wellie... :mad:

But of course add the petrol, entry fee... :(

[Agent X20]

... and the fact its still haeding southwards.. :D

[P51D]

Arrrrggghhh! Knew I should have gone! I've been waiting a long time for the SEAC Wellie... :mad:

But of course add the petrol, entry fee... :(

Expect one will turn up at Brentwood won't it?

Must admit I bought things I wouldn't have bothered with if I hadn't gone to the effort of getting there! :o

Saw loads of guys on their mobiles to mates (they have X here for £x do you want it?) Seems quite a good system if you can get some kind of network like that set up

[Agent X20]

Saw loads of guys on their mobiles to mates (they have X here for £x do you want it?) Seems quite a good system if you can get some kind of network like that set up seen that as well.. are their mates in the hall or at home though....??. the impression that you tend to get is that they are are there.. and they are looking to get the cheapest XYZ....have only ever bought for me.... until some so and so hornswaggled me into buying 28 Skyjets..!! :D

[neighbob]

Or dealers buying stuff knowing they can sell it on for more elsewhere.

[spock1]

:D Mr. P51D,

Nice price rundown and in the main obvious as to where they came from !! You obviously missed the cheaper 1/32 Mossies which were still available up to about 1pm.

Same seller as the £42 big Mossies had the first and second Wellies at £39.50, a price hike of £10 in the space of two weeks!! :eek:

;) Mr. GB,

The £30 Wellie probably failed to sell due to its isolation amongst other non AA diecast........... ;) :)

[P51D]

:D Mr. P51D,

Nice price rundown and in the main obvious as to where they came from !! You obviously missed the cheaper 1/32 Mossies which were still available up to about 1pm.

Same seller as the £42 big Mossies had the first and second Wellies at £39.50, a price hike of £10 in the space of two weeks!! :eek:

;) Mr. GB,

The £30 Wellie probably failed to sell due to its isolation amongst other non AA diecast........... ;) :)

Thanks Spock.

Saw one model this seller had marked up at £29.99 with a big 'special price' tag of £39.99 next to it :confused:

Your right I didn't spot those cheaper mossies, mind you they might as well have been £10 there is no way my wife would let me park one of those in the house however much i liked it!

Oh I forgot to mention, I bought my first jets today :o and they were from the fighting machines range :o :o (no scale :mad: )
They had just been knocked down to £1 each so bought them for the novelty factor.....I have them on my desk now, I actually quite like them!

[spock1]

Thanks Spock.Saw one model this seller had marked up at £29.99 with a big 'special price' tag of £39.99 next to it :confused:

:) Mr. P51D,

It did not go unnoticed by other traders and customers alike and not good for the image of any toy fair trader !!........ :(

As to the Showcase stuff they are excellent models and you really cannot go wrong at a quid each. Somewhere within this Forum there is or wassome truly excellent posts of modifications that have been made to them that really improve the appearance. Shame about the varying scales but they have been made to fit the box as far as I am aware.

Certain ones have proved very popular with both wargamers and railway modellers as they are at or very close to the required scales......... :)

Happy hunting !!.......... :)

[goonybird]

It's that time again!
Anyone going?

[CFBC]

Not me I am afraid... If I spend anymore at present then teh Mrs will skin me alive... Just spent 400 quid on stuff she don;t know about yet!!!! Shhhh.

G/B, be interesting to hear whats about to buy...... Presume your going that is. :)

[goonybird]

yeah, I'll be going. But funds low. Last week heavy week. Half a grand on a radar simulator. ;)
And then AgentX20 making me spend all my remaining cash at Luton Enthusiasts Fair!
And he blames me for his woes :D

[Agent X20]

Get the blame for everything... was going., however plans changed and outlaws came here...

C'est la vie..

[Red Leader]

Well outlaws probably saved you some dosh Agent!!

[goonybird]

Didn't miss much. Usual suspects Some bargains. 1/32nd mozzies and Me109s at about the normal dump price. Welly's still dropping like a stone, obviously a more specialist subject, and overdone already at 4 issues.
I thought best bargain of the day was the RAF camo liberator at £29.99 sitting on its own on a 'various toys' stand.
What was noticeable is the increased number of sellers, with the new range (jul-dec 05)of Corgi AA's. This is opposite to what has been expected, and also prices holding up on most despite the increased competition.
Good for Corgi, bad for the buyer, as everyone is charging the same! :(

[Red Leader]

Thanks for feedback goony! I was thinking of going but had to pull out at last minute.Did you buy anything yourself?

[kevjb64]

. Welly's still dropping like a stone, obviously a more specialist subject, and overdone already at 4 issues.
(

Just cannot get away with ( especially with anything over the size/price of a WWII single seater ) using the molds so regularly ( even when new ) . Hope it is a lesson the hound have learnt quickly !! :mad:

[Arno 01]

Just back, from NEC, got a few bargins, mainly gap fillers, the ones you like but will only pay bin prices :) Corgi USMC AV8 £7, Corgi RN Bucc £9, Corgi DC-130A £8, Corgi RAF Chinook with landrover £20 and Corgi 1/32 Spit £20. as stated the 1/32 Mossie started at £34 for the PR one (other half paid full wack for it for last xmas :( ) Two things I should have got, but didn`t CDC 1/48 RAF desert DC-3 £40 and Corgi MATS C-135 £7-50, but I ran out of space along time ago and the other half was with me and she thought the DC-3 was abit big :confused: but she did buy me the 1/32 spit :confused: :)
About 3 cheap bin stalls, and around 10 half price stalls, One stall had a demo new FOV spit and it did look quite nice, out on wednesday so the guy said £24.

[CFBC]

One stall had a demo new FOV spit and it did look quite nice, out on wednesday so the guy said £24.

Nice report Arno... Which ones the above then? 1/32nd??? 1/72nd?? :)

I presume it is the larger ones... :D

[Arno 01]

Sorry CFBC, yes it was the 1/32 one, had some nice weathering on it

[P51D]

Using a laptop with a wierd keyboard, Russian or something...can't find any symbols brackets so struggling here.

Would have liked more time at the NEC to browse and chat to the traders but other commitments meant I had to rush.

Got a few more gap fillers and even surprised myself by getting a 1.32 scale 109. I always said I had NO room for this scale but what a cracker for 24.99.

1.32 scale FOV stuff looked good for the money compared to MRRP Corgi stuff but on closer inspection much more toy like.

Met an interesting guy next to Garys models stall who was around in WW2 and collects 1.72 scale Battle of Britain stuff. Talked me into getting the Lane Legend Spit. Wish I had more time to talk to him. If your on the Forum could you drop me a PM...thanks.

[P51D]

Just back, from NEC, got a few bargins, mainly gap fillers, the ones you like but will only pay bin prices :) Corgi USMC AV8 £7, Corgi RN Bucc £9, Corgi DC-130A £8, Corgi RAF Chinook with landrover £20 and Corgi 1/32 Spit £20. as stated the 1/32 Mossie started at £34 for the PR one (other half paid full wack for it for last xmas :( ) Two things I should have got, but didn`t CDC 1/48 RAF desert DC-3 £40 and Corgi MATS C-135 £7-50, but I ran out of space along time ago and the other half was with me and she thought the DC-3 was abit big :confused: but she did buy me the 1/32 spit :confused: :)
About 3 cheap bin stalls, and around 10 half price stalls, One stall had a demo new FOV spit and it did look quite nice, out on wednesday so the guy said £24.

Which Spit was it Arno and which dealer. Didn't see any 1.32 Spits but have to admit i wasn't really looking. Nice price!!!

[Arno 01]

It was the first one,AA33901 Supermarine Spitfire Mk1A X4590/PR-F, 609 Sqn. RAF. I got it from the stall which had the FOV 1/32 spit on it, he also had 2 ME109`s AA34901 Messerschmitt Bf109G ‘Red 6’, Oberfeldwebel Arnold Doring,II./JG300 and AA34902 Messerschmitt Bf109G 'Black Double Chevron', Maj. Franz Gotz, both at £24.99. The spit and the 2nd ME109 where under the front of the table.Was tempted by the 109, but a few stalls had quite a few of these, so hopefully catch one next time, but that was the only spit I could find.

[Typhoon-MKV]

Did I read that right - Chinook with Land Rover £20.00 :eek: :eek:

[P51D]

It was the first one,AA33901 Supermarine Spitfire Mk1A X4590/PR-F, 609 Sqn. RAF. I got it from the stall which had the FOV 1/32 spit on it, he also had 2 ME109`s AA34901 Messerschmitt Bf109G ‘Red 6’, Oberfeldwebel Arnold Doring,II./JG300 and AA34902 Messerschmitt Bf109G 'Black Double Chevron', Maj. Franz Gotz, both at £24.99. The spit and the 2nd ME109 where under the front of the table.Was tempted by the 109, but a few stalls had quite a few of these, so hopefully catch one next time, but that was the only spit I could find.

Yes I know who you mean Arno picked up the AA34902 you mentioned from him. Usually has some decent stuff on his stall.

[Agent X20]

Using a laptop with a wierd keyboard, Russian or something.... Has he got to you as well....??

[eismeer]

Was also at NEC and managed to pick up a few well priced hole fillers.

AA99126 1/72 Pacific 8th Army Airforce three piece set (B17, P-47 & P-51) for £30. Wanted this set mainly for the T-Bolt and the Mustang. Both excellent models and would have paid 30 notes just for these two alone, so got a B-17 for free :D . T-bolt is pure excellence and imho better than NGNG.

AA34003 B-24 Liberator "Strawberry Bitch" £20. One i've wanted for a while and is even better out of the box.

AA34802 SEAC Wellington £22.50. Wasn't really looking to purchase this "Welly" as i want the 9 Squadron one but at this price it would have been criminal not to.

US32213 P-F1 Mustang "Mrs Bonnie" nosefart £12.00.

AA32706 Hunter "Red Devils" £5. A steal even though its been knocking around toyfairs now for ages.

Still couldn't be tempted by the cheap 1/32 Mozzies ( £34-£37 ). Shame really as they look great models but their size is just to much for me.

Was also nice to meet and chat again with Mr Spock and Mr Blue Sky :cool: .

[Agent X20]

Ooops seems another 20% shaved off the prices then...

[minter]

22.50 for a welly :eek: ....jeepers and still they fall :rolleyes:

[The Defiant Man]

Ooops seems another 20% shaved off the prices then...
Yeah....everything lower....paid £8 for my Belgian Hunter :mad: Extravagent, I know..... :rolleyes:
£30 for a 3-piece set as well......jeeze.....

[Agent X20]

I thought me three piece (8th AF) at £42 was good.. thing is if they let em fall that far, then so can the new ones.. yer cant stop it..

What happened to £40.. last time I looked the Mossies were £50..

So the Lofty Agent prediction of three for a ton (£100) aint that far off...!! :rolleyes:

[goonybird]

I thought me three piece (8th AF) at £42 was good.. thing is if they let em fall that far, then so can the new ones.. yer cant stop it..

What happened to £40.. last time I looked the Mossies were £50..

So the Lofty Agent prediction of three for a ton (£100) aint that far off...!! :rolleyes:

£112.50 on sunday. Scary. Thought of carrying three 1/32nd mozzers out to the car :eek:

[Red Leader]

£112.50 on sunday. Scary. Thought of carrying three 1/32nd mozzers out to the car :eek:

Tripple Haernia time!!!!!

[neighbob]

£112.50 on sunday. Scary. Thought of carrying three 1/32nd mozzers out to the car :eek:


So if you see a chap wandering around with a pallet trolley you know what he's after. :)

[CFBC]

So, following-on from Prunes comments in another thread.... Who is going... Perhaps the last toyfair for some of us before Xmas.... :D

[P51D]

So if you see a chap wandering around with a pallet trolley you know what he's after. :)

I'll be going, pallet trolley not a bad idea even if I only get one mozzer (just picturing the reaction if i haul just one of those into the house on my return :eek: )

[Typhoon-MKV]

There's just too many bargains at the moment - it would be rude not too........

[CFBC]

May have to attend, but I will have to remove the seats from the car to make space and change the car into a space wagon!!! :D

[CFBC]

As Spock has mentioned the NEC... Anybody going this Sunday? :D

[uksubs]

me ;)

[Eagle1]

I plan too, depends on the cash situation at the end of the week.

E1

[prune]

As Spock has mentioned the NEC... Anybody going this Sunday? :D
Me, barring death or a monumental hangover.Think I'll take the van this time though

[Geoff K]

I'm thinking about going. What are the chances of getting a 'G-George' or BBMF set, & what sort of prices might they be.

I'm looking at a 7 hour round trip by train & £22 train fare, unless some kind soul is passing my way (Bexleyheath), in which case petrol money will be on offer, so it would need to be worth my while going, plus I wouldn't be able to get there until 10.30 & would have to leave by 3pm.

Geoff.

[zed550]

fancied going myself but mate has had to cry off,would have to go by train so might be too expensive,if anyone is passing cheshire petrol money would be on offer

[minter]

i feel a caption competition coming on :D something like...there goes the last of the no 1 squadron sets

[plumstix]

i feel a caption competition coming on :D something like...there goes the last of the no 1 squadron sets

"All three 1/32 Mossies for £50?!! What possible harm could it do...."

[P51D]

Definitely going :D

Looking forward to this one, no need to rush round and leave early like last time!

Seems like quite a few are going from the forum, would be good finally meet some of you (no doubt I will, probably near blueskys or spocks displays?)

[The Defiant Man]

Not this year......spent up at Harrogate.... :( :rolleyes:

If you haven't been before, would certainly recommend it.

[uksubs]

Early Entries are available at £15 each with £5 refundable on return of badge on you leaving, apart from the N.E.C which is £20 and £5 refundable on return of badge on you leaving the show.
£15.00 :eek:

[P51D]

Early Entries are available at £15 each with £5 refundable on return of badge on you leaving, apart from the N.E.C which is £20 and £5 refundable on return of badge on you leaving the show.
£15.00 :eek:

Worth the extra 10 quid and getting up really early for or not then?

[uksubs]

Worth the extra 10 quid and getting up really early for or not then?
Well add your cost of getting there to ;)

[CFBC]

Personally for me, no... I used to go to the toyfairs very early at 7-7.30am and picked-up a few bargains here and there - rare ones, but not anymore as they are now far and few between and most toyfair traders inter-trade and some even walk around buying stuff and hiding it away for later too and with the earlybird prices going up, well it just ain't worth it.... As Subs has said you have to weigh the cost of getting there also in the factor.... :)

[The Defiant Man]

Worth the extra 10 quid and getting up really early for or not then?
No......there will be loads for you to choose from if you go at "normal" entry time.

[Roger]

As Spock has mentioned the NEC... Anybody going this Sunday? :D
I'll be going. I visit this one every year and I'm looking forward to it. Didn't buy much last year but I'm looking for a couple of Corgi models this year.

[Geoff K]

I might knock this one on the head & save my money for toy fairs in the new year. The only thing I'd really be after would be 'G-George' or 'Admiral Prune' which I've seen for £100 on a few websites or 'S-Sugar' which I've seen at £125. So I'd have to pay £80/£105 at the NEC to save any money on any of the three (given the train fare), & what are the chances of that?

Geoff

[prune]

In case I bump into a fellow forumite tomorrow, here's a pic of yours truly :D

[goonybird]

Was looking forward to going to this one. One of the few still worth attending.
'Man' flu appears to have scuppered that idea :mad:
Although probably infected loads of people this morning as went to work :D :D

[Eagle1]

You're not the only one Gooneybird, been suffering all week as well :mad: . Plus the thought of having to scrape ice of the car at 7 this morning. Anyone know when the next one is?

E1

[Graham]

Was going but what with the M1 shut and all traffic directed onto M40 after the Hemel incident I thought I would give it a miss this time round, got woken up by the bang this morning at 6am and uttered the immortal words of the Mayor of Hiroshima "What the feck was that". :eek: :eek:

[neighbob]

In case I bump into a fellow forumite tomorrow, here's a pic of yours truly :D


Prune do you hang around with a large woman and a miserable sod? :D

[goonybird]

Was going but what with the M1 shut and all traffic directed onto M40 after the Hemel incident I thought I would give it a miss this time round, got woken up by the bang this morning at 6am and uttered the immortal words of the Mayor of Hiroshima "What the feck was that". :eek: :eek:

Been watching on my radar screen. all planes going around Hemel today, and stacking at Ockham instead of Bovingdon. :)

[P51D]

Personally for me, no... I used to go to the toyfairs very early at 7-7.30am and picked-up a few bargains here and there - rare ones, but not anymore as they are now far and few between and most toyfair traders inter-trade and some even walk around buying stuff and hiding it away for later too and with the earlybird prices going up, well it just ain't worth it.... As Subs has said you have to weigh the cost of getting there also in the factor.... :)

Thanks for info CFBC. Thought I would go early anyway just to see for myself...quite interesting :)

Won't be doing that again though....got a roasting when I got back for apparently waking my wife and son up at about 5.30am. If she had then turned round and looked in the boot of the car :eek: :eek: ....thankfully she then went out and most of them are now safely stashed. :)

Good day out!

[prune]

Sounds like not many made it then. Nearly didn't myself,too much red last night. There were only 6 or 7 stalls with more than a handful of aircraft stuff, and not really a wide range at that. Only 1 seller with Mount and Ride and Bit O lace. too expensive, no Lanc Grandslams and same seller had Dambusters for £55. Missed out on a used but mint S-suger for £60, while I was dithering someone whipped it from under me nose. One stall had a solitary Mossie with no price amongst his cars. It was the USAAF one, which I've been after, so after passing his stall for the 3rd time I asked the price. Three fifty he said :confused: I nearly walked on thinking he meant £35, then realised he did mean £3.50. He had 3, all mint in mint boxes, I had all 3 for a tenner :eek: There weren't many legends about, or P-40s, only 1 1/32 Mossie and no IXOs which I wanted to have a good look at :( . Only 1 seller had any Witty stuff. There were a few bargains though, night ops Heinkel £20,FW yellow 2 £8 and the usual 1/32 stuff.
Anyhow, got me Canadian Welly for £27,RAF Mitchell for £50,Dragon Desert Spit £10, Witty Clostermann £10,some other Dragons.Hartman got another kill though, Couldn't resist at £35 :D The Grumpy Spit from same was also £35, nearly succumbed, but not happy with fuselage roundel on that. Barkhorns were £38.50.Got all the kids FOV stuff for Xmas to, so not a bad day.

[Agent X20]

, got woken up by the bang this morning at 6am and uttered the immortal words of the Mayor of Hiroshima "What the feck was that". :eek: :eek: .......you too.....yep thought Mrs Agent had let one go.. had to pop into work (Harpenden) this am.. thought it was crowded for a Sunday... all the *ankers queueing for fuel... selfish stards... long as I am all right Jack.. :mad: :mad: :mad: I'll just hold up all the traffic and the blue light services.. utter utter *ickheads... summary executiion and insant car disposal woould be too good for them...ferk this I'm going home... about turn...

Might work from home this week.. sod Santa and the Xmas parties etc.. bah humbug..!! :D

.. long as I have enough gas for Huntingdon!!

[Arno 01]

Got there at 1030, £5 to get in now?? Thought it was £3.50 before?
Anyway, couple got away when I was walking round thinking about them, RCAF C130 £6 and Blue angels F4 (No1) £5, all 3 C-97`s going for £5 each. RAE Brit £10, B52`s various except Gulf one going for £10. RAE Tornado £8 :) Pathfinder set was £55, S for Sugar £60 and the grand slam one in a tatty boxes £62 and the Easter egg £122. RAF SAR sea king £75 :eek: and both the navy seakings, SAR and Falklands £29 each. Sabres £25, RAE Bucc £30.
F4`s Bunny and Drone £9. As stated B17`s where still £55-75, B24`s where from £18 to most at £30. No 1/32 mossies to be seen?? And Chink 69 and the orange and white Chinook also lacking this time.1/32 stuff with crew figures where £36-38, jumpin Jacques £25. Lots of star jet airliners at £5 ( was told these used to be dist by corgi, but they had a falling out with star jets and this was the last of them at this price.) CDC 1/48 F16 £16 and F15`s £25.
So all in all not a bad show, not the best, nice to see some of the older stuff appearing again C-97`s , phantoms and sea kings etc and my favourite buy for today.... 1Sqn set for £40 :D
Hope this is of interest

[Johnny Red]

New rock bottom for Odiham Chinook at £15
1/32 109s for £22
Mc Knight Hurricanes £8
RCAF Wellingtons £27
Loads of £5 fighters

[Red Leader]

Also saw RAF E3 SEntry's at £25 and Canberras at 20-£25

[Red Leader]

Yes I noticed it had gone up to £5 too!!! Ouch!! Also noticed a lack of 1:72 Lancs about generally.

[prune]

[QUOTE=RCAF Wellingtons £27
Loads of £5 fighters[/QUOTE]
Damn, must have been too late or missed that Welly,sure it wasn't £37?

[david cotton]

Hello all
Did any one pick up a Jerks Neutral they would like to swap ?? If so , please PM me.

Regards
David

[prune]

Damn, must have been too late or missed that Welly,sure it wasn't £37?
Just checked, I did pay £27 for mine (sigh of relief). I'm just planning 'Operation Stealth diecast' to get them into the house past Mrs. Prune

[david cotton]

Just checked, I did pay £27 for mine (sigh of relief). I'm just planning 'Operation Stealth diecast' to get them into the house past Mrs. Prune

Wrap them up as Christmas presents and then take em in :D

[Rusty]

Wrap them up as Christmas presents and then take em in :D

Great Idea!!

All I can say after looking at the last couple of posts is thank goodness I don't live near NEC. I would be in a serious amount of trouble (more even than now) if I did!! :)

Anyone want to pass along their RAE purchases... No wait, I didn't say that. I'm not interested really...

[david cotton]

Hello all
Was the big explosition today caused by Die Cast Collectors wives self conbusting, when their husbands said they were going to the NEC today....... not sure if the explosion was big enogth to of been that tho. ;)

[P51D]

1/32 109s for £22


To be fair to those who wern't there and are thinking barkhorn :eek:
22.50 was for the unlimited one. The others could be had for ebay prices (35 to 40)

[The Defiant Man]

New rock bottom for Odiham Chinook at £15

Naw, not new...see Harrogate thread last week. :p

Any P-40 Duke or Lightning Legends around? None last week.....

[plumstix]

There were a couple of Lightning Legends at Brentwood, not at dump prices though.

[Agent X20]

They (Lightnings) seem to have disappeared... bit like Lane Spits did for a couple of months, they, (the Spits) seem to have returned... obviously the pooch has opened another container... :D

[Red Leader]

Saw Duke P40's there at NEC.

[Graham]

Saw Duke P40's there at NEC.
And? more info please.

[prune]

And? more info please.
I saw 1 seller with them for a Tenner. are they getting hard to find or something?

[The Defiant Man]

Yes......although one or two on ebay at the moment, not been many for a while. None at Harrogate t/f a couple of weeks back. One dealer told me that they were a "sell out", but as a stock item more are expected to be released soon....so don't go paying silly money.....

[Red Leader]

The stand I saw them on were were about £12, and generally speaking in last few months I've seen quite a few about.

[CFBC]

There are a few on Evilbay at present. :)

[P51D]

Rushed round NEC today as I promised to be back early :( .

Was in one of the slightly smaller halls this time. One or two less Aviation sellers this time I think.

Usual suspects had less stuff but what they had was cheaper than ever. Clearing out the last of what they have maybe?

e.g

1:32 Mossies seem to be re-appearing again (from £31 I think)
1:32 Hartman £22.99 :eek: (got a 'spare' as i couldn't stand seeing it at this price :o )
1:32 Barkhorn £25
1:32 Grumps £29
1:72 bombers...:confused: not my thing....CHEAP
Pathfinder set £50 (again not really my thing so don't know if this is good or not)
Leg-end fighters for £3.99
Suez set £17.99

Intended to get 1:32 109G red 6 and picked it up for £17.50 :) Appart from this ended up getting a few dragon warbirds etc to justify the trip.

[Martin Bull]

Barkhorn at that price is a true bargain. Fantastic model for £25.....:eek:

[CFBC]

Wow.. I am pleased I didn't go as Mrs CFBC would have killed me upon my return with a car full of AA's at those prices.... :rolleyes:

Really though, what does it tell us? :(

[Martin Bull]

It tells us that 1/32 is a dead-duck commercially. Buy 'em now while you've got the chance.....:(

[prune]

Just got back meself.Only went for Forum research purposes:o
Only 4 or 5 dealers with any amount of aviation stuff.
Lancs very scarce,0nly 1 dambusters for £70 and one Grand Slam in a tatty box for £68.
B-24 Jerks was £23.95, 1/32 PR Mossie £32, The MkIV Mossie £35(shame no Monktons), 1/32 Me109 red6 £17.50, Hartmann £22.95:eek:
P-47 nose art £12, B-17 CC £45, Black Spit £25, Corgi FW double Chev. £25,
1/32 Hurris £67, Blue Angels Phantom £8, Tiger Tornado £8
Bargain legends included Rozzie Geth P-47 £3.99, Phantom £6.50
Only 1 Duke P-40 for £13, nearly bought it but put off by white lines on all the decals.
Had a look at the 1/32 Hurri, and IMPO the nose is ok. Didn't like the shiny roundals contrasting against the matt paint though, or the washing line aerial.
Will get one when it comes down to £30;)
Dragon Mustangs, only saw 3,and 2 of them had the wrong props for my purposes. FWs were £15-17 as were P-47s.Clipped wing desert spit was as I thought, carp,upperwing roundal still in wrong place.
Came away with Dragon Me262 Bar,Hoffer P-47 and a Mustang.

[prune]

Sh!t, just realised I bought a Dragon Hofer (Missouri Kid) at the Ricoh fair.:o
Any one want to swap for a Dragon Mustang.

[kevjb64]

Just got back meself.Only went for Forum research purposes:o


Yeah , of COURSE .;) :rolleyes: :D :D

[kevjb64]

It tells us that 1/32 is a dead-duck commercially. Buy 'em now while you've got the chance.....:(

Totally agree ( see my post on the Valiant thread ) , 1:32 scale reminds me of when a manager buys an expensive player who just cannot seem to turn it on for the new team . Striker knows it , other players know it , supporters know it and even the manager knows it but HAS to keep playing him hoping against hope it goes right . Same with this , Corgi have wasted so much dosh on developing a range I really cannot remember anyone asking for they have to keep going even though 1:32 scale is a proven disaster .

[shuttle]

I don't agree that the 1/32 scale range is not viable. Most plastic kit manufacturers mange to have a 'core' range (normally 1/72 or 1/48 scale) and then a premium range. Think of Airfix and their 1/24 scale range or Revell and their 1/32 scale aircraft. As usual with Corgi, it is their execution of the strategy which as let them down. Even though I love the Mosquito I would have thought that a Fw-190 or a Hawk might have been a better choice i.e, keep them small and maybe do jets. Small, popular fighters was the way to go not large beasts that take up a lot of space!!

:) Shuttle

[P51D]

Barkhorn at that price is a true bargain. Fantastic model for £25.....:eek:

But as far as i know you are the only person who has one with a good cowling (no overspray) :) ALL the ones I have seen (including mine) have overspray as well as the £25 one today. For this reason Hartman is my pick of a superb bunch of 109's.

[P51D]

Just got back meself.Only went for Forum research purposes:o
Corgi FW double Chev. £25,


Had a good look and nearly got that one but to be fair it was probably priced about right as the box was pretty shabby

[CFBC]

Have to agree also Shuttle. The 1/32nd range is excellent. A couple of nice FW's and a couple of Hurricanes would have been good, but as usual and in usual Corgi stlye they have over released, over produced, over valued and flogged it to death and that is why is have faultered. :mad: No othe reason really. :)

[Martin Bull]

Shuttle, I'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I think it boils down ultimately to a question of available space. Even a nutcase like me has had to hesitate over many of the 1/32s because space in my house is finite, whereas I can always find a feeble excuse to squeeze another 1/72 in....:rolleyes:

I just think that if Corgi really can't shift something like the Barkhorn 109 unless it gets down to £25/£30 ( and believe me, even with arguments over has it/hasn't it got overspray on the engine cowling it is an exemplary diecast ) then I just don't see a future for 1/32.

Hey - I hope I'm wrong...no-one would be more delighted than me to have a Maximowitx Fw190 in 1/32 scale !

[Martin Bull]

Just got back meself.Only went for Forum research purposes:o



You have to admit, prune's a real hero. It's real men like him who make the Forum what it is today ( cue stirring background music ) Out there in all weathers, braving motorway madness and road rage, to bring us all the latest news from the front line......makes you want to....( baarrrrffffff ! :p )

[P51D]

[QUOTE=Martin Bull]I just think that if Corgi really can't shift something like the Barkhorn 109 unless it gets down to £25/£30 ( and believe me, even with arguments over has it/hasn't it got overspray on the engine cowling it is an exemplary diecast ) then I just don't see a future for 1/32.

QUOTE]

Very true!

No arguments over the cowling, just think you got lucky with yours. It's a superb model regardless......£25 is just silly money for this one!

[Martin Bull]

But as far as i know you are the only person who has one with a good cowling (no overspray) :) ALL the ones I have seen (including mine) have overspray as well as the £25 one today. For this reason Hartman is my pick of a superb bunch of 109's.

...and apparently THAT one's down to £23 ! :eek: What does that tell us about the future of 1/32 ??:confused:

[P51D]

...and apparently THAT one's down to £23 ! :eek: What does that tell us about the future of 1/32 ??:confused:

Exactly...no future.....buy while you can!

Thats why got a 'spare' Hartman today :o (best Corgi 1:32 Corgi have made IMHO) and for the price of a 1:72 :eek:

[The Defiant Man]

Just as interesting....Legends at £3.99......even if yer don't like the boxes or the mistakes (which not all of the earlier Legends suffer from), this is still incredible value.....would love to know haow much Corgi flogged them for....

[kevjb64]

Shuttle, I'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

I would also have to agree to disagree ( though in slight agreement with CFBC in that they started the range with same old same old strategy , even the schemes ) but not only is the range not necessarily even well made , in the context of it being a premium product but it is the affect it has has on ( a ) Corgi's image in general , these things cause a real storage headache and HAVE to be dumped as soon as , so we end up with yet another product that is given all the hype only to be 60-80 % cheaper often within weeks and even if Corgi do not wish to see it , IT HAS A KNOCK ON ISSUE across the ranges ( as Mercedes found out when they lost more money on S-Series sales than they made on A-Class ones when they brought that out )
( b ) taking into account time issues , it is possible to look back and see that when time , effort and money was obviously being spent on new 1:32 moulds this coincided with a downturn in new 1:72 ( and to a degree civil 1:144 ) moulds . THis allowed Corgi's competitors to regain ground that the hound had won with the conception of the military side of AA to begin with . I do not remember having many conversations with people about 2- 3 years ago about " Lets hope Corgi bring out a 1:32 range , wouldn't it be great " but do remember " Lets hope they soon bring out a Typhoon , Me110 , JU88 , Beaufighter etc . " All which could / would have been with us now , and for some time , if the money spent on 1:32 moulds had been directed to 1:72 . Lastly Corgi relied at these times to squeeze more out of the moulds already in use , leading to BOREDOM on the part of most and a general downturn in interest , that the introduction of the 1:32 failed to reverse .

I buy the range when prices are right but still feel Corgi lack proper managerial direction and must try and concentrate on what is best for the AA brand as a whole for the future .

[prune]

You have to admit, prune's a real hero. It's real men like him who make the Forum what it is today
Honest, I wasn't after a bar to my DFC, (diecasts from corgi),but a mention in dispatches from MB will do nicely:D

[Roger]

Got back from Brum about an hour ago. Almost got a 1/32 Mosquito at £32 but I had to ask myself if I really had space for one, the answere was no (and my partner would have killed me dead on the spot if she'd seen me come home with something that big and would never have believed how cheap it was), but a good price me thinks. I was hoping to find a Grand Slam Lanc and would have paid real money for one, but no one had one that I saw. There are two in TMC in Nottingham at list price and it's looking ever more likely I'll end up getting one here unless the "bay" comes up trumps. Got a Costal Command B-17 and B-24 at £45 each but I have seen both for £35 in the past, oh well. Donington I think next week:)

[kevjb64]

The trend for Lancs. to be flavour of the month continues then , a genuine shortage ( at least at bargain prices ) for once .:)

[Red Leader]

Well I manged to get there, and I'd say generally that there was not a lot about compared to previous NEC fairs! I wonder if that had much to do with Huntingdon beong on today too? Got a Hartman for £23. Couldn't turn it down for that!

[rodney]

EVERYTHING gets dumped at silly prices not just 1/32
Same old story.end of the day to many models to soon no matter what range.
I'm a big big fan of 1/32:eek: :eek: :D

[P51D]

Anyone on the Forum actually buy a Barkhorn or Grumpy today. Just to get things in perspective I have a feeling these may have been de-certs (but i may be wrong)

Along with most others i bought all the 1:32 I wanted when I thought the price was reasonable so wasn't over the moon to see them at silly prices today. Swings and roundabouts though as other stuff I bought at reasonable prices went up soon after :)

Pleased to see Spock is still getting a consistent supply of Dragon Warbirds....in fact possibly the best I have seen from a UK supplier? (OK you get them quicker from the USA but I have found they are not always in A1 condition :( )

[goonybird]

I thought the two main purveyors of dumped goods had very little Corgi AA's to sell, Was tempted by Mozzie 1/32 and Me109 (bargain). But restrained myself, as they would only have gone in the loft. Not much point.
So went with a wadge of cash, and came home having spent nothing.:eek:

[Agent X20]

Anyone on the Forum actually buy a Barkhorn or Grumpy today. Just to get things in perspective I have a feeling these may have been de-certs (but i may be wrong)

:( )

Yep see Huntingdon thread..it came A1 package all sealed up with Cert, but I was fleeced at £30.:D :D :D . none of this £25 stuff..:D :D :D

[Arno 01]

As already reported was very low key on the "Dumped” AA, maybe this the new plan, to get us to spend more wonga on full price releases, problem being I think a lot of us, only buy the dumped stuff because it is cheap, so like others I came home with cash in my pocket today (Got to be a first!) But on a plus side I got 1/32 Night attack Mossie for £34 ;) will go nicely with my PR one , which the better half paid full RRP for xmas 2004, she was horrified to see them going for £31 today, and insisted that I got the night attack one today :D The only other purchase today was 2 x AC-130H at £6 each :eek: which would have been a crime not too. So the new policy from Corgi won’t work for me, as if it something that I want I will pay near RRp for it, but if it has no cert and isn’t that cheap then I won’t be buying much, so the stuff which isn’t selling is going to cost the hound a lot in storage ! And how do they stand a chance when the "Jerks Natural" B24 (ltd to 1700) was going for £23 today

[spock1]

:D Surprised no one has reported in on this one but there were actually one or two of the Malta Wellingtons about today for £25 !! This is supposed to be from the de-certicated dump but these together with certain other of the Hound's latest dumps were the full Monty, no stickers and with certificates ........:confused: :D

[Agent X20]

You obviously had the bargains up there Mr S.... did ya make any profit..?

Maltas were £39 at Huntingdon, fiver above the other gumboot models...

[spock1]

You obviously had the bargains up there Mr S.... did ya make any profit..?

Maltas were £39 at Huntingdon, fiver above the other gumboot models...

:) Agent x20,

With or without certs ? The 2.5 tenners worth were not mine I hasten to add..:rolleyes:

Profit seems to be a dirty word these days, surprised the Forum asterisker not got a grip on it yet...........;) :D It used to be a seven letter word, now about 4 if its lucky!! :D

[prune]

, she was horrified to see them going for £31 today, and insisted that I got the night attack one today :D
"Other half insists 1/32 Mossie is purchased"
My god, that should be a newspaper headline for tommorrow

[Agent X20]

Mr S..

Appeared to be the pukka full jobbies.., there wasnt really a lot of the big stuff about at H... it was all obviously at the NEC..

[spock1]

Mr S..

Appeared to be the pukka full jobbies.., there wasnt really a lot of the big stuff about at H... it was all obviously at the NEC..

:) Two of the main dumpers not really carrying that much AA, seemingly had a fair amount of Airfix though !! :rolleyes: :D

[Agent X20]

Wouldnt appear so from the prices quoted in this thread, the NEC was a fair bit cheaper.. have posted a spiel on Huntingdon today on the appropriate thread, it was heaving and there were many people with armfuls of produce...

[spock1]

Wouldnt appear so from the prices quoted in this thread, the NEC was a fair bit cheaper.. have posted a spiel on Huntingdon today on the appropriate thread, it was heaving and there were many people with armfuls of produce...

:) Pleased to hear it was well attended. On an economic note just think how much more that 109 would have cost you if you had gone to the additional expense of getting to and from the NEC etc....:rolleyes:

[Agent X20]

More than happy with purchase, just trying to work out......... why..?:D :D

[CFBC]

Lack of frog pills perhaps Agent? :rolleyes:

[Agent X20]

Think I saw a BOAC speedbird on the side of it..!!

Nice bit of kit for the dosh... It got filed away upstairs in the loft before I looked for the overspray

[prune]

More than happy with purchase, just trying to work out......... why..?:D :D
Just another symptom of the sickness old chap, like me buying something today I'd already bought a month ago:(

[Agent X20]

Thought I had agreed with meself that I was only collecting the 1/32 Spits.. mind you if these Red 6 thingys are doing the rounds at £17...:D

[CFBC]

NEC today... Anyone going? :)

[Martin Bull]

Sorry, CFBC - spent it all at CAMC ! :LOL: :p

[Red Leader]

Popped in there briefly today.....and I'd say that aviation diecasts were thin on the ground! Not that much about. Did git a decaffinated Mount n ride for £35 though!! Well worth it.

[P51D]

Less dumped stock on offer than usual, some of it decaf.

1:32 Hartman for £20 an all time (rediculous) low. I think it was still certed
A few 1:72 bombers cheap (didn't pay much attention as I don't collect these)
1:72 legend fighters for £4
1:72 AA Spits (Caldwell & Beurling) £8.95

Came away with very little. Couple of D B Spits for the nephews at 75p each. (Still trying to wean my son onto aviation...still likes his trains :( ) Got myself a couple of things will go and get them out the car in a minute to remind myself what! :D

Guys in London have done better than us for bargains this weekend that's for sure.

[Agent X20]

You cant decert a Hartmann.. stand jobbie.. fell into that one meself..

[P51D]

You cant decert a Hartmann.. stand jobbie.. fell into that one meself..

Yes your right Agent :o , but since you mention it I saw a very cheap B25 on display at my local model shop with no sticker on the stand. I asked him if it was a de-cert and he said 'yes'

I think it's more likely it had just fallen off and he mis-heard me :confused:

Anyway, need to send one of these 75p Spities to MB for analysis, they don't look that bad!.....but then it wouldn't be fair to compare a 75p model to a £30 one, would it? :LOL:

.....on second thoughts they ARE rough but the colours look OK and so do those panel lines :)

[Agent X20]

Its got a smacking of dihedral..:LOL:

[neighbob]

And nicer wheels.

[Agent X20]

yep it does have the Spitty wolfrace wheels..

[P51D]

Think the one area which Corgi's will beat all their rivals hands down is the amount of beating they will take off two small boys (2 and 3 year old)

They may loose wheels, prop blades,paint etc but will still be basically intact after years of abuse! We shall see how long these two 'Ge Fabbri's' last at the weekend :D ..anyone care to chuck their JJ Limited Edition into the fray for a fair comparison?....

[CFBC]

..anyone care to chuck their JJ Limited Edition into the fray for a fair comparison?....


I am pretty sure that AC or DC would like to donate theirs for the research! :LOL:

[Agent Carr]

Already chucked mine out the window to see if it would fly.

[prune]

In the interests of forum research;) , spent a couple of hours at the NEC.Wished I hadn't bothered at first, aviation stuff very thin on the ground.
Then I found an oasis in the form of Gary's models, which saved the day.
From Gary I bought all 3 Geminis for £45, a Hobbymaster Midway Dauntless for £12 and a spare Mcknight Hurri for a tenner,which was marked as a de-cert but has the number on the stand.
He also threw in a free catalogue.Gary's a forum member (Gary Ford) so PM him, he's got some good deals.
Also had a Brothers warbird Hurri for £8.The finish of the model and box on this is excellent, and they're using the right colour,Sky again, instead of the 'orrible sky blue shade they used on the legends Bader and Lane.These warbirds are really showing the AA prices for what they are, total rip off:mad: .
Had a good look at the RAF Cat, priced £60 and I was very tempted,great model.You're gonna have to display it in flight though as this one isn't the amphibian with a nose wheel.
Some other prices....
Both Swordfish £30
Gladiators £25...no first issue to be had though
S/S Lanc £58
Bader 1/32 Hurri £48
De-cert 1/32 Hurris
Sea Hurri £35
Lewis £40
Nicolson £30
Silver Old Crow £30
Green Old Crow with cert £30
Spit MkVIII shark de cert £10
Didn't think de-certs would bother me, but would have got the Silver Old Crow and Spit VIII if they were not de-certs.
Dragons, only Geoff Noble had any and they were all full price,4 engine jobs almost non-existant, 1 Grand Slam Lanc £58, 1 Lib £28. Only 1 B-25 on sale.
The legends were also scarse,Duke P-40s £5, and a few jets, Canberra £18
What I should have bought, a superb 2nd hand display unit,5ft by 4ft, 9 inch deep,with 9 quarter inch toughened glass shelves,and sliding glass doors.None of yer chipboard carp here, solid wood and for £145.Bloke lived near me so could have picked it up, but didnt have me credit card with me, then saw someone else buying it:(

[Red Leader]

Toyfairs are definately far more thin on the ground with bargains than they were a few years back!

[The Defiant Man]

That really is a bad show for what is one of the biggest toyfairs.....

[Red 2]

Prices generally as per the Duxford show a couple of weeks ago. Are we as low as it can get unless a manufacturer suddenly dumps a huge amount of stock?

[david cotton]

Didn't think de-certs would bother me, but would have got the Silver Old Crow and Spit VIII if they were not de-certs.
:(

Same thing happening to me

[P51D]

In the interests of forum research;) , spent a couple of hours at the NEC.Wished I hadn't bothered at first, aviation stuff very thin on the ground.
Then I found an oasis in the form of Gary's models, which saved the day.
From Gary I bought all 3 Geminis for £45, a Hobbymaster Midway Dauntless for £12 and a spare Mcknight Hurri for a tenner,which was marked as a de-cert but has the number on the stand.
He also threw in a free catalogue.Gary's a forum member (Gary Ford) so PM him, he's got some good deals.
Also had a Brothers warbird Hurri for £8.The finish of the model and box on this is excellent, and they're using the right colour,Sky again, instead of the 'orrible sky blue shade they used on the legends Bader and Lane.These warbirds are really showing the AA prices for what they are, total rip off:mad: .
Had a good look at the RAF Cat, priced £60 and I was very tempted,great model.You're gonna have to display it in flight though as this one isn't the amphibian with a nose wheel.
Some other prices....
Both Swordfish £30
Gladiators £25...no first issue to be had though
S/S Lanc £58
Bader 1/32 Hurri £48
De-cert 1/32 Hurris
Sea Hurri £35
Lewis £40
Nicolson £30
Silver Old Crow £30
Green Old Crow with cert £30
Spit MkVIII shark de cert £10
Didn't think de-certs would bother me, but would have got the Silver Old Crow and Spit VIII if they were not de-certs.
Dragons, only Geoff Noble had any and they were all full price,4 engine jobs almost non-existant, 1 Grand Slam Lanc £58, 1 Lib £28. Only 1 B-25 on sale.
The legends were also scarse,Duke P-40s £5, and a few jets, Canberra £18
What I should have bought, a superb 2nd hand display unit,5ft by 4ft, 9 inch deep,with 9 quarter inch toughened glass shelves,and sliding glass doors.None of yer chipboard carp here, solid wood and for £145.Bloke lived near me so could have picked it up, but didnt have me credit card with me, then saw someone else buying it:(

Good post Prune, don't think there is much I can add to that.

As you say good job Gary's Models showed up and as usual he had good stuff at v. good prices. Kicking myself for buying all three GA's on friday for £18 each though! :unsure: In spite of this he had enough stuff that I wanted to get my free catalogue :D

Bought a few Dragons from Geoff Noble (bit knocked off but more or less MRRP)

Only purchase from the Browns brothers was a witty zero (£2....sorry AC :D ) Even he seemed surprised it was so cheap so may have been marked up wrong? Also has some witty jets for £5, looked good but don't collect modern jets and wasn't about to start just because they were cheap.

Found a stall with a solitary (mint, certed) Stuka (latest) for £15 which I was pleased to find.

Your right about the de-certed models. Ones you would probably have bought certed suddenly look less attractive. For example I think £35-£40 is too much for a de-cert 1:32 hurri (as Agent X20 has pointed out they get them for this much MRRP in the USA!) I will pay £35-£40 for a certed example and £25-£30 de-cert otherwise I won't bother (they are not even THAT good from what I have seen and what I have read on the forum)

[prune]

Bought a few Dragons from Geoff Noble (bit knocked off but more or less MRRP)
Was one of them Dragons a Stuka? If so, reckon I was standing next to you when you bought them.

[P51D]

Was one of them Dragons a Stuka? If so, reckon I was standing next to you when you bought them.

No, I bought 3 109's. I went back about a minute later to see if he had any stuka's but he had just sold his last one!

Also forgot to mention that any collectors of 1:48 franklin mint/armour warbirds would have got some real bargains! Saw three traders selling variouse aircraft for £10-£15 each. Tempted by the swiss 109 but decided I have my hands full already (and loft!) with 1:72.

..............also a AA35304 North American B-25J Mitchell II for £26 or £28 (can't remember) It was certed and seemed like a good price but I don't collect these so don't know?

Also a AA34902 Messerschmitt Bf109G Italy - The Battle for Monte Cassino and beyond (1:32) mint/mint box for £20. Very nice model and a bargain at this price! Iwould have bought it but have one already and my loft isn't as vast as DC's..........

[prune]

Yep, didn't mention the Armours ,nobody here seems interested in them including me, but I was tempted by a P-38 Lightning for a Tenner.

[The Defiant Man]

Yep, didn't mention the Armours ,nobody here seems interested in them including me, but I was tempted by a P-38 Lightning for a Tenner.
Wrong scale for the UK.....and they seem to have more errors than canine offerings...:eek:

[prune]

Wrong scale for the UK.....and they seem to have more errors than canine offerings...:eek:
Remember looking at them long before Corgis, and was always put off by the mistakes and horrible decals.

[david cotton]

Remember looking at them long before Corgis, and was always put off by the mistakes and horrible decals.

Don't worry...they soon fall off :D

[P51D]

Bought more stuff at the NEC today than I care to mention :blush: expect as I get round to displaying them I will post in the appropriate threads.

Hartman 1:32 109's now down to £16.50 :eek: (box mint, number on stand)
Sensible side of me thought 'leave it you have 2 already'! Then the 'David Cotton voice in my head' told me to 'buy the lot'! In the end I bought one (another spare! :laugh: )

Pleased to find a weathered CHC ME109 on blueskies table for £20. Bought the grey one when released but didn't fancy stumping up £60 for this one. No cert but box not punched or stickered and very happy to have aquired one at a reasonable price. :happy:

[david cotton]

Hartman 1:32 109's now down to £16.50 :eek: (box mint, number on stand)
Sensible side of me thought 'leave it you have 2 already'! Then the 'David Cotton voice in my head' told me to 'buy the lot'! In the end I bought one (another spare! :laugh: )

Should of bought the lot -nowink

[P51D]

Should of bought the lot -nowink

Haha, wish you had got there first and cleaned up, would have saved me the headache of all these decisions :laugh:

Also a few 1:32 P51 stingers for £16.50 and a JJ P51 for £22. Cheap enough but not schemes I am particularly after in this scale (have a 1:72 Witty JJ P51 and that's good enough for me)

[david cotton]

Haha, wish you had got there first and cleaned up, would have saved me the headache of all these decisions :laugh:

Also a few 1:32 P51 stingers for £16.50 and a JJ P51 for £22. Cheap enough but not schemes I am particularly after in this scale (have a 1:72 Witty JJ P51 and that's good enough for me)

I need to get one of those Stingers to use as spares on me BBD's -smile

[prune]

It's not on the calender, but there's a toyfair at the NEC tomorrow.Gary from Garys models has confirmed he will be there.

[P51D]

NEC was poor,if Gary hadn't been there wouldn't have been worth going.The 1/32s were scarse,a few Park and Nicolson Hurris,only the Black 8 109 and Stinger P-51s. Geoff Noble had a Lane and a PR-F Spitfire for £65 Each.All his Dragons were full price.No 4 engine bombers at all.
.

Agree, i spent quite a bit but nearly all pre-order stuff from Gary which i could have had sent far cheaper than going to the NEC :LOL:

Ended up nearly buying a radio controlled miniture helicopter from Gary due to the lack of diecast :eek: Looked quite good but realistically a 5 minute wonder which would no doubt have ended up in the hands of one of my kids............:(

A couple of those mossie/P51 sets for £15 each on a table not really dealing with aviation. Good buy for someone and they soon went but of no interest to me.

Bought one of those bare metal (polished) Hunters in a black presentation box for my Dad. Don't know what he will make of it but i know he loves the aircraft (used to fly them)..........and it was only £4.50 :D

Got that 1:32 109 you gave me the 'heads up on' prune, great model thanks for that. Also bought the latest Gemini Aces..........very nice!

[prune]

Ended up nearly buying a radio controlled miniture helicopter from Gary due to the lack of diecast :eek: Looked quite good but realistically a 5 minute wonder which would no doubt have ended up in the hands of one of my kids............:(


I bought the Gemini desert 109 and a Predator Avenger.
I also ended up buying something I may well regret,lest it takes me on the slippery slope to diecast oblivion so many of you have already gone down :o

[CFBC]

I also ended up buying something I may well regret,lest it takes me on the slippery slope to diecast oblivion so many of you have already gone down :o

C'mon then Prune. Own up! ;) :D

[Martin Bull]

Yes - come on, Prune ! :) You're among friends here....! :p

[prune]

Ok, if you insist.I bought a Century Tomcat, my first non WW2 model.
Corgi could do no better than to get one of these and take a good hard look, at the superb detail and quality, and the PRICE.
It may come in handy for a swop in a year or two:D

[P51D]

Ok, if you insist.I bought a Century Tomcat, my first non WW2 model.
Corgi could do no better than to get one of these and take a good hard look, at the superb detail and quality, and the PRICE.
It may come in handy for a swop in a year or two:D

Funnily enough I was seriously considering one of those (would have been my first non WW2 model too)

They were very, very good! Quite limited numbers too I seem to remember?

Bought a predator Avenger a while ago (Bush) and quite like it. Very 'clean' looking especially the underside but displays well next to the Corgi's. Got that desert 109 as well today and it is on display now....looks good :D

[STARMAN 352ND]

Century F-14's Are sweet. I have both the VF-84 Jolly Rogers and they are worth every penny.

[Red Leader]

Anyone going to this tomorrow?

[prune]

Maybe,haven't decided yet.

[lovethoseplanes]

I was going to go until I looked out the window at the weather! Not a chance.

Any bargains anyone? :D

[Red Leader]

I managed to get there but a bit late so I probably missed the bargains assuming there were any!
I got a WB Tiffie for 9 and a rasberry ripple Canberra for 28. Both are nice.
Anyone else get there?

[CFBC]

Sounds like not many attended.

:rolleyes: :)

[Arno 01]

Having not been to any fairs, this year yet ! I might go this sunday, anybody else going, any known traders??:confused:

[Agent X20]

Will save it for Huntingdon next weekend - if I am allowed to go..:D

[Greycap Leader]

Will save it for Huntingdon next weekend - if I am allowed to go..:D

I am sure you will sneak out somehow Agent!

[Aviaction]

Went NEC today. As usual a bit quiet for the "summer" one, some traders missing. But not a great deal of aviation stuff. Spotted one small stand with a couple of Corgi Aces: Tuck Hurri, P51, and a EELightning at circa £30.
Also elsewhere, a Tuck Hurricane Boxed, dusty, no cert at a tenner. The Black USAF Canberra at £8.00 sl. scruffy box. Nearly went for the later USCG Hercules at £18, but can't be bothered any more.
Still loads of the CHC ME109's at £6.50!

So bought a few Skymarks 1/200 airliners instead. I think it was 12 for under 50 quid. Same thing on sale in the BHX airport shop at £20-£30 each!
And an Inflight 200 Singapore Cargo B707....cheaper than it was at Huntingdon..;)

Oh and nice to bump into P51, laden with bags of corgi stuff!

[Agent X20]

Still loads of the CHC ME109's at £6.50!
.. and I thought I was doing well at a tenner... bet the receivers bill was massive... counting out what was left..

So bought a few Skymarks 1/200 airliners instead. I think it was 12 for under 50 quid. Same thing on sale in the BHX airport shop at £20-£30 each!
And an Inflight 200 Singapore Cargo B707....cheaper than it was at Huntingdon..;)This really isn't of interest mate... ...as Red2 only buys his stuff at RRP..:LOL:

[Aviaction]

Oh and one last point.
Nimrods at £16.50!
Now the amount produced for the first and second was about 2,300.
So how is it the first one almost disappeared without trace, and the second one is plentiful.
I do not believe trade saying they sold well and went quickly.
There is something about this that smells.:mad:

[Red 2]

.....as Red2 only buys his stuff at RRP..:LOL:


Oh gawd, first I have MB reminding me at every opportunity about his £50 B-17 bargains and now Lord X20 will never let me forget how much I've paid for my BA 747!:LOL:

All I want to know is whether there are Inflight Lufthansa 727s going cheap anywhere. Investigations so far have drawn a blank.

[Arno 01]

Back from a late start, not too much to note, picked up the Blue prototype spit for £39-50, the first Lysander for £16 and HM German Harvard, Beryl the peril Avenger, Egyptian Mig21 and the D-Day A10. Other stuff noted, Century Cats on MR B`s dump stall, PRF spit for £35 and £50, Vamp for £35:p and strangley Park hurri`s had gone back up to the £35-£40 mark:confused:
So all in all not a bad day, must say HM are leaving the Hound high and dry, the lot I picked up today are very nice, ie the Avenger for £18, lots of metal and weapon options for your money, or do I get a £35 Vamp?? No brainer really:LOL:

[P51D]

Still loads of the CHC ME109's at £6.50!



And quite a few TT's as well at £7.99. Obviously decerts but goes to show just how many CHC still had unsold :rolleyes:

[Agent X20]

But they sold all the Blue Hurris and Grey Spits...:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :cool:

[kevjb64]

And quite a few TT's as well at £7.99. Obviously decerts but goes to show just how many CHC still had unsold :rolleyes:

Actually someone was commenting the other day about how in the future , mint
certified examples of these will be very rare as it appears very few sold ( as with the BA Chinny ) with their certs. !;)

[kevjb64]

But they sold all the Blue Hurris and Grey Spits...:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :cool:

No apparently when the stock was checked there were just two left of each :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :LOL: ;) !!

[P51D]

But they sold all the Blue Hurris and Grey Spits...:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :cool:

:LOL:

You would have liked it today Agent, lots of civi stuff seemed to be going cheap. Saw a large stack of them (civi's) heading towards one of the traders and realised it was one of our lot was under it (good to see you again too aviaction) :D

Finally bought a couple of lysanders at what I consider to be a fair price (£16, certed) plus all 4 new HM tanks which are really :cool

Most other stuff was cheap, and fairly pointless, purchases (as you do at toyfairs).....extra one for display....may want to do a repaint etc, etc.

Also got a great deal on a trainset for my son. Got to say that trains don't appeal to me but some of them seem very good value.

[Agent X20]

:LOL:

You would have liked it today Agent, lots of civi stuff seemed to be going cheap. Saw a large stack of them (civi's) heading towards one of the traders and realised it was one of our lot was under it (good to see you again too aviaction) :D .If A is involved, I woulda been anywhere close to the bargains... he's part hound dawg..

No apparently when the stock was checked there were just two left of each :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :LOL: ;) !!... ah silly bergers... they should have been there 24 hrs earlier..:D :D :D

[P51D]

Actually someone was commenting the other day about how in the future , mint
certified examples of these will be very rare as it appears very few sold ( as with the BA Chinny ) with their certs. !;)

True up to a point but on the other hand as long as the certs don't get lost there are plenty of models (mint with mint box) to replace any damaged/non mint ones.

I bought two of the £6.50 109's when they were released at £24.99 each plus P&P :rolleyes: Can't complain about that (swings and roundabouts) but annoying when my original 2 were 'less minty' than these cheap ones :( . Almost like the best ones were being saved till last :confused:

At those prices I bought some spare 109's (to put my certs in)

[The Defiant Man]

But they sold all the Blue Hurris and Grey Spits...:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :cool:

.....and captured 190's.....:rolleyes: :D

[Arno 01]

Anybody go today???

[Red Leader]

D idn't know it was on. Not listed on the calender on here!

[Grim Reaper]

D idn't know it was on. Not listed on the calender on here!

Oh yes it is Red2 want to borrow my glasses:LOL: :p :LOL:

[Red 2]

Oh yes it is Red2 want to borrow my glasses:LOL: :p :LOL:

WTGR my deadly friend, I've got my own glasses...Red Leader might take up your offer.:D Or do you want to borrow mine?:LOL: :LOL:

[Red Leader]

That is SCARY! I only just has a check up at the Opticians a few weeks back and they told me my eyes had improved!!

[Grim Reaper]

WTGR my deadly friend, I've got my own glasses...Red Leader might take up your offer.:D Or do you want to borrow mine?:LOL: :LOL:
Can I borrow yours Red2:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

[P51D]

Anybody go today???

Yes, not a great deal there to be honest.

Picked up a few recent releases with a couple of £ off MRRP and managed to get a Leohnert P38 (£30 but at least it saved shipping it from the USA)

One of the usual supects had a huge pile of civi's for £2 each (sorry Agent can't remeber what they were but think they were !:200. Some chap obviously thought they were a good buy and struggled off with most of them :)

Had a Losigkeit 190 in my hands for a while. Box pretty much mint and was only marked at £18. Thought it would make a good replacement for mine which has a 'tired' looking box but left it in the end. Was picked up 2 seconds later and sold for £16 :eek: (good buy....maybe a forum member?)

Bought a few other items I didn't need just cause they were cheap :wacko: .....and then left..........

[Aviaction]

Good day at the NEC. Obviously none of the others that went could see :LOL:

A lot of older secondhand Corgi AA's appearing Yellow and Culdrose Seakings at 65 and 55 in tatty boxes. another had the second (losi) FW190 at £18 and various aces at about 30. Dumpsters had zilch.

Bought a Skymarks Boeing 777, at last a gemini BA 737, and the new Oxford diecast KLM ford anglia.

Then to the Airport and then to Coventry Airport to catch the DC6 in KLM colors.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/aviaction/AirportVehicles/peo-eye_doctor.gif :LOL: :LOL:

[P51D]

another had the second (losi) FW190 at £18 and various aces at about 30.


Yes and a year or so ago I bet this would have generated a bit of interest :) couldn't see anything i wanted though.

Pile of canbera's on one table for a tenner each (don't know if that's good or not) and yet more TT's for £8.

[prune]

Couldn't be bothered today,each NEC seems to get worse.With Corgi stopping the dumping it probably wont be worth going in the future,unless you've got a big list and want to save on postage.

[P51D]

Couldn't be bothered today,each NEC seems to get worse.With Corgi stopping the dumping it probably wont be worth going in the future,unless you've got a big list and want to save on postage.

Think your right prune, most of the new stuff can be picked up just as easily mail order (from the same retailers) and the older stuff is rarely any cheaper than on the bay.

[spock1]

D idn't know it was on. Not listed on the calender on here!

:unsure: Mr. RL,

Strange though I did add it on last night...........................:)

[spock1]

Couldn't be bothered today,each NEC seems to get worse.With Corgi stopping the dumping it probably wont be worth going in the future,unless you've got a big list and want to save on postage.

:LOL: Mr. P,

Who told you that load of old bollix?............................:unsure: :rolleyes: :D

[Blackbox]

Went to the NEC today and thought there was a good amount of aviation items dotted about (esp compared to the last meeting IMHO).

As a new member it was also nice for me to meet and chat to both Spock and Gary Ford.

I was able to fill a gap in my heli collection with a Falklands Chinook from Mr Spock - it looks really good - one of Corgis better efforts in this field in my view. And from Mr Ford the new HM A-10 'Bentwaters' - a great looking model and I haven't got it out the box yet!

Around the hall there were some bargains to be had with, as Aviaction says, some older Corgi and reduced recent stuff. The 1:200 airliners referred to previously were Star Jets - £2 each and the same seller having Gemini P51a and Spits at £7.

Blackbox

[Agent X20]

The 1/200ths will be the Starjets planes... excellent value at £20 a piece let alone £2..

If I had seen em at £2, I would have bought the lot....

These will no doubt be repriced and appear at a fiver on another stall or on the Bay where they will bet about £7-10 for them..

Surprised it wasnt Aviaction that had them...:LOL:

[Aviaction]

The 1/200ths will be the Starjets planes... excellent value at £20 a piece let alone £2..

If I had seen em at £2, I would have bought the lot....

These will no doubt be repriced and appear at a fiver on another stall or on the Bay where they will bet about £7-10 for them..

Surprised it wasnt Aviaction that had them...:LOL:

Unfortunately cash strapped. :( otherwise would have had the lot.
Saw a certain dealer buy a couple of bags full. So we'll see those at Kempton Park.:D

[Agent X20]

... recycling..... he'll have em up at £4 then..?? till he gets fed up of humpin them around.. then £3... then £2......

Have you bought any of these Mr Red 2....???... There are some smart little numbers...

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/StarJets/A319A321Swiss00107082007.jpg

[Red 2]

... recycling..... he'll have em up at £4 then..?? till he gets fed up of humpin them around.. then £3... then £2......

Have you bought any of these Mr Red 2....???... There are some smart little numbers...

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/StarJets/A319A321Swiss00107082007.jpg

No..telll me more...:)
A319 looks particularly good.

[Aviaction]

Well, from memory they had Lufthansa A320/321, BA "Botswana" B757, Star Alliance Austrian A320, Austrian Millenium A321, Swiss as above, and still one of the nicest, the TWA B757. two squid a piece.
Bargain. Nuff said.

[Grim Reaper]

Red2 if this carries on you will be cerimonialy be stripped of your camo diecast and cast into the great beyond:LOL: ;) :LOL: come back to the light and away from the evil civil diecast:p :LOL: on second thoughts do carry on and I`ll relieve you of all camo diecast:LOL:

[P51D]

The 1/200ths will be the Starjets planes... excellent value at £20 a piece let alone £2..

If I had seen em at £2, I would have bought the lot....

These will no doubt be repriced and appear at a fiver on another stall or on the Bay where they will bet about £7-10 for them..

Surprised it wasnt Aviaction that had them...:LOL:

Thought for £2 they had to be a bargain, almost picked one up for a look inside :eek: :LOL:

On reflection the other guys that went gave a far more accurate 'take' on the day than I did, depending on what you were after there was a fair bit there. I still managed to spend £150 so obviously found a few 'bits and bobs' that I wanted :D (used to be nearer £300 so it's all relative I suppose)

[Agent X20]

Well, from memory they had Lufthansa A320/321, BA "Botswana" B757, Star Alliance Austrian A320, Austrian Millenium A321, Swiss as above, and still one of the nicest, the TWA B757. two squid a piece.
Bargain. Nuff said.

And for the unedificated.. some picktures...

Lufthansa A320/321

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/StarJets/TasterLufty002.jpg

BA "Botswana" B757

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/StarJets/BAtail.jpg

Star Alliance Austrian A320

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/StarJets/A320Alliance00107082007.jpg

Austrian Millenium A321

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/StarJets/A321AustrianAirlinesStarJets0010708.jpg

and still one of the nicest, the TWA B757.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/StarJets/757TWA00207082007.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/StarJets/757twa00107082007.jpg

Nuff said... Exactamundo... for the price of half a pint..!!!!

[Craig]

Good job I wasn't there, think I'd be the new owner of a BA 757 had I been! :o I don't DO civvies!!!!! :eek: :unsure:

[P51D]

Good job I wasn't there, think I'd be the new owner of a BA 757 had I been! :o I don't DO civvies!!!!! :eek: :unsure:

Know what you mean Craig thank goodness i didn't take a peek inside any of those boxes.....they look good!! :wacko: :D. Great pics Agent, are they metal or plastic?

[spock1]

Know what you mean Craig thank goodness i didn't take a peek inside any of those boxes.....they look good!! :wacko: :D. Great pics Agent, are they metal or plastic?

:) Mr. P51D,

Plastic unfortunately, then again what do you want or expect for £2? Excellent models for the price but as is now commonplace too many seeking a home with too few (and fewer) collectors.......................:( :unsure: :)

[Agent X20]

Hard plastic.... very polished.... and at £2.. absolutely ridiculous(ly) good vfm.....

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/StarJets/A320NWSilver00107082007.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/StarJets/A320Alitalia00207082007.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/StarJets/757USA00107082007.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/StarJets/757Continental00107082007.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/StarJets/321SAS00107082007.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/StarJets/A320ANK002020607.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/AgentX20/StarJets/A320Northwest001310507.jpg

[P51D]

:)
then again what do you want or expect for £2?

To answer your question Mr S, the other table (usual suspects ;) ) had diecast camo jobbies for 75p each :)

OK as I can see from Agents most recent batch of excellent pics nowhere near as good as the starjets......but bought one for mr 'mini' P51D and one for miss 'mini' P51D anyway.

mr 'mini' chose the P51D (good lad) and miss 'mini' (one and a half :o ) had the FW190A but broke it it 2 minutes. Pics to be posted for 'post mortem' by MB to determine whether it was a genuine FW190A-8 or not :LOL:

[Aviaction]

Seemed quieter for the last NEC before Xmas. Nice to see Eismeer, Spock et al.
A smattering of the usual suspect purveyors of aviation models. Not much dumpster wise, so no real bargains to be had.
Corgi RAF VC10 much in evidence and apparently selling well. Why!!??? Maybe I need to redirect the purchasers towards my emporium, coz I think they must be in need of vision correction of some sort -laugh-
Bargain of the day would have been the massive King-Tiger in the ammo-box crate at £125. but combination of low funds, lack of room and the prospect of carrying a flamin' heavy box back to the car didn't appeal.
So came away happy to get teh Aeroclassic BAC111 set, and one of the older Corgi Huey Hogs I'd been on the look out for.
Interesting at Coventry Airport on the way back was a landing Beech 18? in Camo top/blue undersides and SEAC markings.

[eismeer]

Yep, was nice to see you again also Aviaction along with Blue Sky, Spock and Gary-cool-

[Agent X20]

No to Huntingdon... and yes to a 'not publiscised NEC show'......

Saw Gary Ford and Geoff Noble today.. a different event... as there was a photo exibition on at the NEC as well...

Lack of Corgi stuff just means that there is more shee-ite diecast than ever before being dumped although some of the Altaya (as against IXO) models Geoff has were lovely.. desert 110 and Mossie ( not SB-V.. but NE-.?) let alone the He162.... were very nice for the £15 he wanted. In fact there was very little present stuff about at all... so sorry Kev, theres a ferkin great pile thats going to rain down on us soon when the g'tees run out.

Gary with his Panther and other Hobby Master stuff, but not as many pre-pros as before.. nice to see them maturing....

Bargains ... not a lot.. Post War AA Typhoons at a tenner. SNS He 111.. £24.50 if you could find a good box.. £45 SNS Dambuster Lancs but boxes tatty and guns all 'pushed in' so beware.. the odd £15 Jag and training Hawk (£10) were about..... the toyfair punters have found other stuff to sell...

So all in all a 'nice' fair.. large and some nice guys to talk to...(if you were into trains) a Dalek and Catwoman......

Agent being Agent accosted some poor sod... (with rather scrumptious young lady) who was haggling for a 23 Sqn Lightning... (was just about to advise... have you had a look - you do know its chrome..) when said gentleman :LOL: replied.. my card.... !!.... (a very small bit of card. but a card.. for a moment I thought it would be pistols at dawn.....) Plane Crazy.... it was really nice to meet the forummeister after all these years and in a very very packed hall the chances of that.. :D

Chris... she is positively mad and if she comes to her senses she will no doubt be on the next boat to Timbuctoo or Baldock International...(ding dong) ., but many congratulations on your engagement and if you could just refrain from all that lovey dovey stuff and get down to the next commission were were discussing that would be a bonus...:LOL: (Olympic Games Lightning.. I like it.. everlasting afterburner..:LOL: )

The photoshow afterwards... well that was just 100% drool..... the money you can spend on Photography...... In my dreams I came out about £25K lighter.... in reality a couple of pints at the bar....:LOL:

A nice day... and thanks to my chauffeur for the Northampton - B'Ham bit.........:cool: and the best til last..... Mrs Agent wasnt home when I drove in... so instant diecast insertion into loft..:LOL: :LOL: .. result..!!

[Aviaction]

Note to CFBC
he does have a ring to pay for..... :)


Well good day. Took in Toyfair and after Focus on Imaging exhibition,
accompanied by that Agent chappie.
Fell in love with the new Sigma 200-500 F2.8 but at re-mortgage money (£15,995) I had to pass.....

Have to admit the best models were at the Photographic Show ;)

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/aviaction/Model2.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/aviaction/Model1.jpg

First piccie slightly off due to camera shake.....go figure....:LOL:

[spock1]

No to Huntingdon... and yes to a 'not publiscised NEC show'......

result..!!

:mad: TRAITOR...............................:LOL: :( :unsure: :cool: :)

[Agent X20]

First piccie slightly off due to camera shake.....go figure....:LOL:

Needless to say Agent's pictures were a total blurrrrr.....:LOL:

[Agent X20]

:mad: TRAITOR...............................:LOL: :( :unsure: :cool: :) I thought you would have been closer to home.....:D

[Craig]

I thought you would have been closer to home.....:D

The excuses may be too late to save your loyalty card points though... :unsure: ;) :D

[P51D]

although some of the Altaya (as against IXO) models Geoff has were lovely.. desert 110 and Mossie ( not SB-V.. but NE-.?) let alone the He162.... were very nice for the £15 he wanted.

From that comment i assume they have they started leaving the lines off this second round of Altaya's then Agent? (hope so:) )

[P51D]

Looked at the weather and thought a trip to the NEC with my son might be in order.

Spent most of the time being told 'no more airplanes daddy!! we need to buy me some trains now!!' and having my arm pulled, getting me away from all the good stuff! :(

Got my first (and probably only) 1:72 bomber (JU88) seemed rude not to at £17.50.

Warbirds dumping at 3 for £10 (nothing new there) and preds down to £5 a bit later in the day.

Got a few of each although don't really know why. Don't think my brain was working after looking at/buying all those toy trains!

Picked up a 'kent spit' from mr S which to be honest was the only model i bought which was actually on my 'wish list' rather than cause it was cheap! Pleased to get that one! :)

[Aviaction]

Would normally go to the NEC, but 80 mile round trip and over a fiver to get in now means over £15, just to go before anything bought. So decided no more toyfairs.
It's just getting too expensive, with less spare spondoolicks to pay for it.:(

[Martin Bull]

Apparently G. Brown 'feels your pain'.....:unsure:

[prune]

Got my first (and probably only) 1:72 bomber (JU88) seemed rude not to at £17.50.



That'll be the yellow one then? I managed to pick up a Lister Ju 88 for £20,
Maridor Spitfire for £25, HM RAF P-39 and Legends Typhoon.
Other bargains seen, Sinner 262s for £8,S&S He111 £35,Johnny Johnson set £20 but not a lot else.
Couldn't help thinking we wont be seeing prices like this again,nearing the end of a cheap diecast era.

[strix1998]

Apparently G. Brown 'feels your pain'.....:unsure:

is going to feel a lot more pain when the public at large susses out what is in store with the planned substantial VED increases-will make the 10p Income Tax Band row pale into insignificance by comparison...................

[P51D]

That'll be the yellow one then? I managed to pick up a Lister Ju 88 for £20,


Yes (yellow)

Nice find (lister)

You can take my son round next time and then see who gets all the bargains! :LOL:

Which spit was it you picked up (corgi one?)

[prune]

Which spit was it you picked up (corgi one?)

Was the 1/48 HM Spit with the D-Day stripes.If the MkXIVs sell well,I'm hoping they will do a few more Marks,especially I,V and IX.

[Martin Bull]

Johnny Johnson set £20 .

Still quite expensive, then.....;)

[prune]

Still quite expensive, then.....;)

I still wouldn't have been tempted at a tenner:LOL:

[P51D]

I still wouldn't have been tempted at a tenner:LOL:


Same here :)

Liked the look of those GMP warhawks (a lot!)

Don't supose you know how much they were do you? Meant to go back there for another look but totally forgot. Maybe just as well as could easily have been tempted by a couple of those. Almost certainly would have had one if I had been on my own!

[P51D]

Was the 1/48 HM Spit with the D-Day stripes.

What do you think now you have it home?

First 1:48 or do you have a few others already?

[prune]

What do you think now you have it home?

First 1:48 or do you have a few others already?

Very good,canopy bugs me but if you want a 1/48 Griffon Spit what can you do.
I've also got 2 Eagles Int.P-51s,and Carousel Galland Me109 and Flying Tiger P-40.Still haven't got around to getting a Carousel Fw190D,was hoping they'd be in last Xmas's FM sale,but it wasn't to be:(

[prune]

Same here :)

Liked the look of those GMP warhawks (a lot!)

Don't supose you know how much they were do you? Meant to go back there for another look but totally forgot. Maybe just as well as could easily have been tempted by a couple of those. Almost certainly would have had one if I had been on my own!

I didn't see them at all.It was after 1.00pm when I got there,maybe they'd sold.

[prune]

Just back from the NEC.Fair amount of diecast about,Predators £5 or 2 for £9,Silver Vampires £12.50,Lister Ju88s £20,Hobbymasters £15.
Saw the new HM Helldiver, it looks superb.Jet fans are in for a treat with the Super Sabre.

[CFBC]

Saw the new HM Helldiver,it looks superb.Jet fans are in for a treat with the Super Sabre.

;) :)

Certainly are... :cool

[P51D]

Predators £5 or 2 for £9,

Didn't fancy picking up a couple at that price for re-paints then?

I want to know is why the manu's moaning about the price of zinc....they only need to visit the nearest toy fair! :LOL:

They really do need to consider the 'melt down' option IMHO, would help models retain some level of collectability too!

[prune]

Anyone going tommorrow?
I've got a bit of a dilemma,a long list of diecast and a long list of presents the kids want.Somethings gotta give........sorry lads-laugh-

[prune]

Just a reminder for forumites in the Brum area,toyfair tomorrow.

[Red Leader]

Anyone go to this? Anything worthwhile there?

[prune]

Anyone go to this? Anything worthwhile there?

I went,worth my while but the bargains are getting fewer and fewer.
It'll take a while to get used to,but the models should get more collectable and keep more of their value.

[Red Leader]

What did ya pickup?

[prune]

What did ya pickup?

See What yer bought thread:)

[Red Leader]

Got it! Cheers. The JU 52's a good en!

[prune]

Got it! Cheers. The JU 52's a good en!

And I dont think we'll see any future Ju52s at the price I paid for it.
We are moving into a new time of collecting now,with low runs if you leave it too late, some will be harder to get.

[Red Leader]

You may be right! I don't see many of the "Eagles Dare" version around at discounted prices anymore. They really were bargains a short while back!

[prune]

You may be right! I don't see many of the "Eagles Dare" version around at discounted prices anymore. They really were bargains a short while back!

There probably wont be any big discounts again,the Corgi 'offer of the week' is finished.

[Arno 01]

There probably wont be any big discounts again,the Corgi 'offer of the week' is finished.

With over 5000 A10's to shift, you might just be wrong:cool:

[Red Leader]

Ah yes! I'd forgotten about those. Ridiculously way over priced to begin with though!
I hope I'm wrong BUT I'd be stunned if we ever see the Crete JU 52 discounted!!

[Agent X20]

With over 5000 A10's to shift, you might just be wrong:cool:.. yep lots of people looking.. lots of people wanting... but not as many buying.. there will be dumping.. wont perhaps be the 'get all you can in a bin liner' tenner specials but whilst the pooch dont hold stock, and now that stuff is coming back on stream, it will build up again.

[prune]

With future production based on pre-orders we wont be seeing too much discounted Corgi stuff will we ?

[Red Leader]

Were there many traders selling AA suff there?

[Craig]

I doubt we'll see much. I think the emphasis will be more on if it's not going to sell it won't get produced, combined with more sensible run numbers and more desirable subject. I wouldn't personally rule out the A-10 dumping, too much old management input into it, but I certainly wouldn't forsee any of the current stock dumping unless there's been howlers made, which shouldn't be happening. Things are changing at Corgi I think, but don't think the change will be overnight. The main difference at present however is discounting used to be a dead cert, if you waited with very few exceptions you WOULD get it half price in a few months. Now I think if you're waiting for a dumped Sea King or even Lightning you may end up being in for a long wait. Once people start to be less confident of supply whenever, I'm sure pre-orders will improve :)

[prune]

Were there many traders selling AA suff there?

not counting the ones with just half a dozen models, there were about 6 I'd say.

[Agent X20]

I doubt we'll see much..... Things are changing at Corgi I think,

Things may be changing at Corgi Hornby etc.. but at the end of the day these chappies are the UK masters of mass produced diecast... therefore small runs and esoteric types will not be on their radar... their overheads with catalogues... headcount etc etc.. will be far higher than the likes of Capt Tiger and his merry men... so the fact is you gotta at least produce a few... we shall see... I give AA a year..perhaps two tops.. and that's without looking at any books etc... gut feeling is its gonna be shorter than that..:(

[Leviathan]

Agent,

Thanks for that, Mr positive!:D


Regards



Leviathan

[kevjb64]

Things may be changing at Corgi Hornby etc.. but at the end of the day these chappies are the UK masters of mass produced diecast... therefore small runs and esoteric types will not be on their radar... their overheads with catalogues... headcount etc etc.. will be far higher than the likes of Capt Tiger and his merry men... so the fact is you gotta at least produce a few... we shall see... I give AA a year..perhaps two tops.. and that's without looking at any books etc... gut feeling is its gonna be shorter than that..:(

I will consider my long term position on AA , once my long Hornby 16th May contract has expired . :rolleyes: :D ;)

[Agent X20]

Thanks for that, Mr positive!:D
S'alright.. IMPO..yer just need to diversify a little... just have that feeling that the pooch UK prices combined with the required end person sales can't be sustained (unless you have Mr Kev's sorta wonga..) so bring on 250 Stirlings as a finale..:D

[zed550]

were any gold spits for sale?:)

[The_Lord_is_My_Shepherd]

Things may be changing at Corgi Hornby etc.. but at the end of the day these chappies are the UK masters of mass produced diecast... therefore small runs and esoteric types will not be on their radar... their overheads with catalogues... headcount etc etc.. will be far higher than the likes of Capt Tiger and his merry men... so the fact is you gotta at least produce a few... we shall see... I give AA a year..perhaps two tops.. and that's without looking at any books etc... gut feeling is its gonna be shorter than that..:(

Well knowing that Aviation Archive is the most successful of the Corgi ranges, I feel it's a little early to be writing them off within 2 years. The industry standard for a run of an Aviation model is now somewhere between 1000 and 2000 pieces worldwide. Why do you think that Corgi can't live with that? oh wait, they have been producing those amounts, and in a return to a market decimated by clearance, they have done pretty well to achieve quite a few sell outs in the Aviation range.

Comparing them to Tiger Hobbies is daft, Gary is an importer and distributor of a generally niche market product, he publishes his imported pieces figure to illustrate that point. Corgi also have a worldwide market to get back into, after losing more than a few export customers in the last three years.

Perhaps the best indicator to the state and future of the market is to look back over the previous three years before Hornby purchased Corgi. Who stepped up to be a serious contender to Corgi when anyone with an ounce of sense knew they were failing financially?

The best chance since Matchbox imploded into a mail order company to grab the UK diecast market, which Corgi did so successfully in the mid nineties, and grew from there. Who was prepared to stick in just a few million quid to grab that title while Corgi were on the floor?

The answer of course is, no-one stepped up, a few companies had a little prod at certain parts of the Corgi ranges, but all stayed small, and specialised, and no one was prepared to invest, or find the investment for such an assault for the crown. This included the likes of Minichamps, Mattel, Unimax, AutoArt, and even Revell who have always had diecast aspirations (the bloke who mentions diverse images - just don't:D )

That shows the strength of the brand, and now in the more cautious hands of Hornby, I don't see any reason why it won't grow.

[Agent X20]

The comparison was for the purpose of overheads... both are in there own way suppliers of a brand in the UK..

[zed550]

more captured lufty stuff is the way forward:unsure: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

[shuttle]

TLIMS,

Nice reply - and with a more considered development of the range with improved quality control and research then Corgi can begin to gain some real lost ground. The recent gesture by Hornby/Corgi over the token models seems to point to some real progress being made as well.

:) Shuttle

[Aviaction]

TLIMS,

Nice reply - and with a more considered development of the range with improved quality control and research then Corgi can begin to gain some real lost ground. The recent gesture by Hornby/Corgi over the token models seems to point to some real progress being made as well.

:) Shuttle


And thats with all of three pre-orders per model?

How to destroy a business in one simple step.
Unlike that optimistic Sub-mariner chappie, I'd give it 3 months before Cornby hit the wall.
Things are getting tougher in the land that is retail, and buying toys ain't gonna be a priority in may peeps budgets.

Surprised TLIMS still has a job........
Wake up and smell the coffee. (and that's not Starbucks coz they is gonna be ferked as well)

[The_Lord_is_My_Shepherd]

And thats with all of three pre-orders per model?

How to destroy a business in one simple step.
Unlike that optimistic Sub-mariner chappie, I'd give it 3 months before Cornby hit the wall.
Things are getting tougher in the land that is retail, and buying toys ain't gonna be a priority in may peeps budgets.

Surprised TLIMS still has a job........
Wake up and smell the coffee. (and that's not Starbucks coz they is gonna be ferked as well)

I just need some more information before I strain my intellect and answer your post fully and frankly.

1) What’s the one simple step? - You didn't mention it.

2) Why 3 months instead of 2 years? - Is this a wild poke in the dark? I'm also not sure that agent is a "Sub-mariner", I think he's a Titan, he talks like when you blow air through a straw into a glass of water. (Stingray - you'd be a bit young for that )

3) In "the land that is retail" most are finding that there is a great resilience in collectable and hobby products, it was much the same during the last recession. Have you contrary evidence (apart from reading the Sun)

4) I will also be surprised if you are gainfully employed.

And "Starbucks coz they is gonna be ferked as well"

A statement that I’m sure will rock the FTSE when it opens tomorrow.

P.S. Are you in the ATC? - Because with respect, your post looks a little juvenile.

[The_Lord_is_My_Shepherd]

Sorry - I bit!

couldn't help it

[Craig]

Can we keep this on topic and not degenerate any further please-otherwise posts will be removed.

Thanks

[The_Lord_is_My_Shepherd]

The comparison was for the purpose of overheads... both are in there own way suppliers of a brand in the UK..

Well ok, Gary does input, import, logistics and delivery.

Hornby/Corgi do the lot and supply the worldwide market, have final say over the whole range, prices, dropping lines, extra lines.

Chalk - Cheese.

Compare Corgi to - no-one - There is now one major UK company that owns the top brands in Railways, Kits and Diecast, there is no one to compare them to. The old Palitoy of the eighties would be the nearest in memory, who incidentally took on the American way of selling hobby products before they failed, just like the last Corgi regime.

[Aviaction]

wots stingray ??:confused:

[dilligafocau]

wots stingray ??:confused:

A Gerry Anderson futuristic marionette (puppet) show from the early 1960's.

[Aviaction]

Jeez!
Thanks Dill.
Y'know I never even heard of it. :rolleyes:

Said this place would turn into a "Corgi" forum, they just haven't gotten round to changing the name yet!

SUNSTAR Rocks!!!!

[Agent X20]

Hornby/Corgi do the lot and supply the worldwide market, have final say over the whole range, prices, dropping lines, extra lines.

Chalk - Cheese.

Compare Corgi to - no-one - That was really the point - being UK based,.... is that not going to be a bit expensive for them..... especially for the AA market, the numbers that need to be produced without having to dump...? ...a market that must be reaching a terminus.

.. and bringing it back to the thread... which is why there is that little that is new, at the toyfairs now..:LOL:

[Garethster]

IAnd "Starbucks coz they is gonna be ferked as well"

A statement that I’m sure will rock the FTSE when it opens tomorrow.



TLIMS - I wouldn't say they are exactly awash in black ink these days:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/01/business/main4226336.shtml?source=related_story

;)

[CFBC]

Said this place would turn into a "Corgi" forum, they just haven't gotten round to changing the name yet!


:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

You have been on those magic mushrooms again Avi, go check out the other Manufacturer threads too my friend if you have not slit your wrist's... :confused:

You know, FOV, Dragon, HM, Skymax, and the rest... If others would supply models for me to photograph I would quite happily do it and post them, I have asked Dragon, Witty (Sky Guardians), Oxford when they become available, Gemini (who do thank you also) and asked many others for information to post for all of you, so where you get the "Corgi" forum from is a big fat :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

I try to help as many manufacturrers as possible and also ask them to send information too...

Oh wait, your talking Corgi too in other threads..... ;) :) So, your making this a "Corgi" forum! :confused: :rolleyes: :D

If you don't like it, well.... Sorry. It's down to what you guys shape it. :)

The forum is based on the input and direction that it's members give it. I can only influence it to a degree, but the direction you guys give it, inject into it, is down to you guys.....

:) :)

I take it there were not many bargains at the NEC by all this.... :LOL: :LOL:

[Agent X20]

"Starbucks ... Overcharged froth...:mad: bah humbug...:mad: :LOL:

[CFBC]

.. and bringing it back to the thread... which is why there is that little that is new, at the toyfairs now..:LOL:

Totally agree.. For now... ;) :)

I guess there was plenty of new stuff at the normal prices? :)

[Agent X20]

Totally agree.. For now... ;) :)

I guess there was plenty of new stuff at the normal prices? :) No thats it.. there is very little new stuff.. well there wasnt at Huntingdon, apart from the odd one here and there.. Oddie had a VC10, a Jag a red Halton (but that was reduced).... and Aces had a couple.... nothing like the boxes (or Cogi domination of there tables) that there were before... and at the end of the fair Mr O still had his VC10, his jag, his Halton etc... there's little product about out there which is why the fairs are reverting back to toys... another dealer I spoke to earlier that week was doing no more pooch stuff as folk were cancelling pre-orders - his 'new' modus operandi was to buy and split collections as there was far more money in that.... hey ho..

[Aviaction]

:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

You have been on those magic mushrooms again Avi, go check out the other Manufacturer threads too my friend if you have not slit your wrist's... :confused:

Oh wait, your talking Corgi too in other threads..... ;) :) So, your making this a "Corgi" forum! :confused: :rolleyes: :D

If you don't like it, well.... Sorry. It's down to what you guys shape it. :)

The forum is based on the input and direction that it's members give it. I can only influence it to a degree, but the direction you guys give it, inject into it, is down to you guys.....

:) :)

I take it there were not many bargains at the NEC by all this.... :LOL: :LOL:

No mushrooms. :wacko:
The comment was meant to be "tongue in cheek". The bigger issue is that the forum has been almost hijacked by some people that appear to be on a mission of self gratification. There is none of the fun or humour on here anymore. It's all got too serious.
You cant even comment (good or bad) on a manufacturer's product without a person(s) who appear to be affiliated to the industry, coming back with comments that really are ruining this place. One of said people has such experience, to be under some misguided impression that I am just out of diapers (LOL) I should be so flattered.

[Agent X20]

No mushrooms. :wacko: .
.... and Mrs Aviaction was only saying that you were such a fun guy to be with.....:D :LOL: ..

fun guy... mushrooms... never mind.. time for a dive..:D

[The Defiant Man]

You cant even comment (good or bad) on a manufacturer's product without a person(s) who appear to be affiliated to the industry, coming back with comments that really are ruining this place.

True...but ironic....as it's not the Corgi affiliated people......

Back on thread......you lot should be happy you've still got some fairs to go to.....Harrogate has stopped.....:(

[kevjb64]

True...but ironic....as it's not the Corgi affiliated people......

Back on thread......you lot should be happy you've still got some fairs to go to.....Harrogate has stopped.....:(

I agree and most of it is just ( perhaps too much ) a reaction to the fact that over the last 18 months ( despite every bit of evidence ) you have not been able to comment on ( certain ) product . It was actually as if Corgi were the only manufacturer allowed to be knocked at one stage . I personally decided to end posting on these threads , what purchased etc. a little while back ( as someone with far more knowledge was answering the issues very well , except the manner of the posts ) and let market forces and after market prices speak for themselves ( obviously I have acquired all the necessary data ) , because the reaction was always the same and always from the same quarters . So today is not really the problem ( in a way ) it is what was not stopped 12 months ago by a very vocal yet very small minority . :) Hindsight it still a great thing . :rolleyes:

Back on thread , stopped going ( except to one or two for charity etc . ) about 18 months ago . You think people talk their own book on here and spread rumour , it all starts at yer toy fair . :LOL:

[Martin Bull]

Speaking personally, I freely admit to a pro-Corgi bias because that is reflected in my collection. Having said that, it's still the model that is important to me, eg ; -

Corgi Ju52 - fantastic model :)
Corgi Schall 262 - too similar to other releases + no Swastika = no purchase.:(
FOV B-26 Marauder - despite a personal loathing of other FOV aircraft, this has been the biggest surprise of 2009 for me and I have highlighted that on another thread.....:cool:

...and so on.....

I've enjoyed my collecting so far this year - and 12/18 months ago I wondered if any manufacturer would have survived until now.

And I really do sympathize with the retailers.....:(

[kevjb64]

Speaking personally, I freely admit to a pro-Corgi bias because that is reflected in my collection. Having said that, it's still the model that is important to me, eg ; -

Corgi Ju52 - fantastic model :)
Corgi Schall 262 - too similar to other releases + no Swastika = no purchase.:(
FOV B-26 Marauder - despite a personal loathing of other FOV aircraft, this has been the biggest surprise of 2009 for me and I have highlighted that on another thread.....:cool:

...and so on.....

I've enjoyed my collecting so far this year - and 12/18 months ago I wondered if any manufacturer would have survived until now.

And I really do sympathize with the retailers.....:(

Once again I totally agree with this post and would suggest very few of us would have to admit to any bias , it is very obvious from posts etc . :)

[Agent X20]

I'll admit to a pro-corgi bias... now..... where's me pre-war Swordfish..:D

[Angels one-five]

.. Overcharged froth...:mad: bah humbug...:mad: :LOL:

I hope you're not referring to my grande extra hot, skinny soy, double shot decaff, hazelnut moccachino....

[Blackbox]

re the NEC Toy Fair........

Its local (ish) but I didn't go. Last time it was £5.50 to get in - propbably gone up again - but its getting just a tad expensive I think.

Donny was ony £3 - but I believe its the last one coming up.

[themostdangerousenemy]

Unfortunately it is the last Donni fair coming up,as the building is getting demolished and fairs will still be held in the new one.

[Scottuk]

Unfortunately it is the last Donni fair coming up,as the building is getting demolished and fairs will still be held in the new one.

The venue was refurbished less than 18 months ago?

[gary ford]

To us Northen folk Donny will always be Doncaster and as stated the Donny venue was re-built 18 months ago. I think the poster is talking about Donnington, which he is correct the next one in Apr is the last one for a while until they develope the track for F1.

To all Southen folk Donny is Doncaster not Donnington

themostdangerousenemy if you are Southen I will forgive you, if you are from the North you should be hanging your head in shame and moving to the south.

[Scottuk]

Thanks for clearing up that confusion Gary.:D

[Aviaction]

To us Northen folk Donny will always be Doncaster and as stated the Donny venue was re-built 18 months ago. I think the poster is talking about Donnington, which he is correct the next one in Apr is the last one for a while until they develope the track for F1.

To all Southen folk Donny is Doncaster not Donnington

themostdangerousenemy if you are Southen I will forgive you, if you are from the North you should be hanging your head in shame and moving to the south.

Cor Blimey! and theres me under the impression that anything north of Castle Donington was uninhabited wilderness, of mountains, forest and the occasional neanderthal....:eek:
You mean there is civilisation in the North?:LOL:

[Blackbox]

To all Southen folk Donny is Doncaster not Donnington


In the Midlands, which is where Castle Donnington is, it is known as Donny around here. :)

As in 'Are you going to Donny to watch the bike racing?' Unless over night the tracks been moved :(

Regards

Blackbox

[CFBC]

:LOL:

As I live somewhere in the Midalnds, North or maybe South, then in the middle... I thought "Donny" was Doncaster and "Donni" was Donington as in the race track, Airport, etc...

Oh well... :rolleyes: :D

:LOL: :LOL:

[Blackbox]

:LOL:

As I live somewhere in the Midalnds, North or maybe South, then in the middle... I thought "Donny" was Doncaster and "Donni" was Donington as in the race track, Airport, etc...

Oh well... :rolleyes: :D

:LOL: :LOL:

Vive la difference!

Or as Del Boy would have it

'Mange Tout, Rodders, Mange Tout'

[Aviaction]

Castle Donington.

Where on earth do you get the two D's from????

[Blackbox]

Castle Donington.

Where on earth do you get the two D's from????

Same as everyone else - I blame me keyboard!:LOL:

[Aviaction]

Same as everyone else - I blame me keyboard!:LOL:

Obviously must have got your keyboard from that guy in the dodgy shorts :LOL:

[themostdangerousenemy]

Donningtons always been known as Donni as its been famous for rock concerts,motorbike racing and toyfairs.Whats Doncaster been famous for.

[spock1]

Donningtons always been known as Donni as its been famous for rock concerts,motorbike racing and toyfairs.Whats Doncaster been famous for.

:mad: :LOL:
Someone else who cannot spell Donington. As to Doncaster try horse racing and a being a once major railway centre to name but two......;) :)

[Blackbox]

:mad: :LOL:
Someone else who cannot spell Donington. As to Doncaster try horse racing and a being a once major railway centre to name but two......;) :)

For me.......RAF Finningley

[Craig]

Doncaster still is a major railway cetre, not many works' in the UK still thriving, but the Wabtec plant is ;) See, Doncaster has contributed more than a corrupt council! :rolleyes: :unsure:

[spock1]

Doncaster still is a major railway cetre, not many works' in the UK still thriving, but the Wabtec plant is ;) See, Doncaster has contributed more than a corrupt council! :rolleyes: :unsure:

:D Even if it has shrunk a bit...............;) :)

[Scottuk]

:D Even if it has shrunk a bit...............;) :)

:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

Sorry Craig, but it was funny :LOL:

[Craig]

:D Even if it has shrunk a bit...............;) :)

Wait while I get hold of CFBC, damn kyboard! :D

[CFBC]

Anyone go yesterday? Very quiet about it if you did.. :D

Just been talking to a forum member (well couple) and hear there wer certainly some good bargains to be had on some "older" releases... SARS Sea King for £30, and a few XH558 1st issues for £15 a pop.....

Bargains.......

:D :D

[P51D]

Anyone go yesterday? Very quiet about it if you did.. :D

Just been talking to a forum member (well couple) and hear there wer certainly some good bargains to be had on some "older" releases... SARS Sea King for £30, and a few XH558 1st issues for £15 a pop.....

Bargains.......

:D :D

Any more info CFBC, just wondered who still goes (of interest to us lot)? Were Gary, Steve and Geoff there plus the two major 'dumpsters' (for lack of a better description :o )

[herpamad]

Those vulcans was a bargain, but not as cheap as the next guy who purchased them for £8 a go, along with C130's and some Connies.

I sent my sister and told her to sell at up to half marked prices, i didnt even know Corgi models had a value as 10 years ago they was next to impossible to get rid of unless you gave them stupid low prices.

So are there any Corgis from 10 years ago i should consider selling at a better value in the future? not looking for top wack, just fair price for all.

Got plenty more Vulcans and the likes, but selling them off to pay for my student fees and start up a business so getting a balance between giving good value and getting a fair price is needed.

Got loads and CDC and Gemini Jets too, but these seem to get zero interest too.

With regards to the dumpsters, are they getting rid of anything interesting these days, they was selling them at half the price you could get them from corgi as a trader 10 years ago, and see they still do it, if only one knew where they got the stock hey.

Also someone said is there anyone of interest there, whats of interest to the general forum.

Do people only buy from dumpsters, or do they pay closer to rrp for some releases?

Loads of questions so sorry, and look at completeing my Herpa collection now prices seem to be 10 times less on my missing models.

[P51D]

is there anyone of interest there, .

Hi herpamad, i think that's the question I asked.

I used to go to the NEC on a regular basis and got used to seeing certain retailers (forum members) who had plenty of diecast aviation stock. I was trying to establish if they still go and therefore if it's worth going to the next NEC? :)

[prune]

I was trying to establish if they still go and therefore if it's worth going to the next NEC? :)
I know Steve (S&S toys) and gary were there.

[P51D]

I know Steve (S&S toys) and gary were there.

Thanks prune, will try and get to the next one in that case.

[prune]

Just a reminder the NEC fairs on tommorrow.