Carrier Based Models

[Red Leader]

I've been thinking that a carrier based model in 1:32 that had working folding wings would be really cool.
There are so many possibilities;
Hellcat
Corsair
Sea Fury
SeaFire!! etc etc

I'm sure you guys can think of some others from WW11. Did the Fairey Firefly have folding wings too??
It's a great scale for putting in all the details such as gun magazines engines etc, so how about those folding wings??
What do you guys out there think?

[Hoverbug]

If the Mosquitos aren't a bust, then how about an Avenger/Tarpon? BTW, I think if Corgi really wants to make the 1/32 scale a go then they'd sell some accessory vehicles and figures to really round out a nice diorama - fuel bowsers, tugs, lots of fitters, etc

[Red Leader]

An avenger would certainly be cool. I know they were carrier based . Did they have folding wings too?
Maybe they'd be too expensive to produce though. In actual fact I can't ever remember seeing any manufacture that does models with folding wings. Anyone seen any?

[Agent X20]

Yep to Firefly and Avenger.. in fact pretty much all the USN planes had folding wings...

Even Zeros had folding wing (tips)

Die cast I havet seen any.. one or two plastic manufacturers have tried them but realistically, although they may look the puppy parts when folded, they can when the wings are extended droop (again like the puppys parts) and not look that brill so you end up cementing them in place...

[BSteinIPMS]

Yep to Firefly and Avenger.. in fact pretty much all the USN planes had folding wings...
Right you are, Agent. All WWII USN carrier aircraft had folding wings, with these exceptions: the Douglas SBD Dauntless series (all of 'em), and all F4F Wildcats up through the F4F-3. The F4F-4 was the first Wildcat with folding wings.

[Red Leader]

Thanks for the input of your knowledge Agent and Bob the Yank. Hey is that right that the dauntless didn't have folding wings?? I never realised that.
Did Sea Hurricanes?

[BSteinIPMS]

Thanks for the input of your knowledge Agent and Bob the Yank. Hey is that right that the dauntless didn't have folding wings?? I never realised that.
Did Sea Hurricanes?

Yes, no Dauntless had folding wings. It was a relatively small aircraft and the USN felt that with its short wing span - not taking up much room on the flight deck - the complexity and weight of a wing fold mechanism wasn't warranted.

http://www.kotfsc.com/thunderbolt/sbd.htm

http://www.kitparade.com/features01/dauntlessrl_1.htm

I don't believe any Sea Hurricane had folding wings:

http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Aircraft/seahurricane.htm

http://www.military.cz/british/air/war/fighter/hurricane/history_en.htm

[davidwford]

Definately a Corsair for me. Can't ever see Corgi producing it though!

[Albert Ross]

An avenger would certainly be cool. I know they were carrier based . Did they have folding wings too?
Maybe they'd be too expensive to produce though. In actual fact I can't ever remember seeing any manufacture that does models with folding wings. Anyone seen any?

Both the Firefly and Avenger had wings that twisted and folded back alongside the fuselage. Very difficult to do in a diecast model and difficult to avoid wing droop when the wings are unfolded!

[raff]

That's a shame about the Avenger. It's high on my wish list in 1/72 let alone 1/32. I do distinctly remember building a larger scale plastic model with folding wings though ..possibly a Matchbox late mark Spitfire?
raff

[Red Leader]

Thamks for your insight Albert. I do of course appreciate that it would be tricky to do as a diecast mobel. What about some of the more conventionally folding wings that went straight up like the wildcat and helcat?

[BSteinIPMS]

I think Albert's point is well-founded. I've built several of the Monogram 1/48 TBF Avengers over the years, and this kit has wing-fold hinges which operate. The pieces for the hinge mechanism are delicate, hard to align, and the resultant model will look fine for a short while until fatigue sets in and the plastic hinges allow the outboard wing panels to droop.

I believe it could be done by a diecast manufacturer, but wonder if it would be cost-effective.

[Red Leader]

Sounds like ya speakin from good experience there! Maybe then if we have an Avenger it should be fixed wing. I guess we need to be practical!

[Agent X20]

Droop does tend to feature more as yer models get older.. believe me..!! :D :D :D

[Red Leader]

Disgraceful!!
Never allowed that sort of thing in RAF during Battle of Britain. Pilots were ordered to keep stiff upper turrets at all times!!!

[CFBC]

I've been thinking that a carrier based model in 1:32 that had working folding wings would be really cool.
There are so many possibilities;
Hellcat
Corsair
Sea Fury
SeaFire!! etc etc

I'm sure you guys can think of some others from WW11. Did the Fairey Firefly have folding wings too??
It's a great scale for putting in all the details such as gun magazines engines etc, so how about those folding wings??
What do you guys out there think?So, does anybody think were going to see any carrier based 1/32nd types then or is it dead and in it's grave!!! :(

[Agent X20]

Only one that gets close on the allied side.... Corsair... its the choice of all the 32'ers... they wont go off the beaten track..

Hellcat not enough schemes..
Wildcat not sexy enough..
Dauntless as per Wildcat
Helldiver.. what's one of those..??????

Might see a Seafire...
Firefly/SeaFury be lovely.. but flying pink swine come to mind

Course at the end of the day.. the one you will see .. Zero...... :D

[CFBC]

Yep - Gotta agree there!!

[Agent X20]

mmm 1/32 Zero.... floatplane..... :D :D :D

[ForkTailedDevil]

There was a single floatplane Wildcat made nicknamed the "Wildcatfish"

[CFBC]

mmm 1/32 Zero.... floatplane..... :D :D :D
I do believe there was also prototype Sub-based floating Zero's too? Erm. Cannot remember the name though, but saw a doc a month or so ago on them...... There were 10-15 of them made to attack P.Canal, but the attack never happened and they were recalled due to the US invading....

:)

[Agent X20]

There was a single floatplane Wildcat made nicknamed the "Wildcatfish"

Limited on the schemes then..!!

[CFBC]

Hmm - Perhaps a "one off" commission then? ;)

[Agent X20]

Go with the Spitfire floatplane.. or the 1/72 C47 :D

[scramble]

A Seafire F47 would be nice :D

[raff]

Go with the Spitfire floatplane.. or the 1/72 C47 :D

1/72 DAK!!! .... WHO SAID THAT? :eek: Go to the top of the class my boy!

Raff

With an Avenger to follow!

[CFBC]

1/72 DAK!!! .... WHO SAID THAT? :eek: Go to the top of the class my boy!

Raff

With an Avenger to follow!
Oh no.... Don't start him off.... :rolleyes:

[ForkTailedDevil]

Great. Exactly the same planes in 1:72 as was in 1:144. I don't see a market really ;)
You can only do so much with them and I think we have enough in 144.

How about some Turbo-Dakotas like the re-engined Colombian ones :D

[DCRanger]

Gearbox do a diecast Wildcat with folding wings. I think it is around 1/32 scale. It's not a great model and something of a novelty as the canopy lifts up and it can be used as a money box.

The wing folding mechanism is however quite ingenius and there is little if any wing droop. I'm sure Corgi could provide us a much better model and judging by there latest all singing all dancing 1/32 Spitfire, the folding wings shouldn't be a problem.

[DCRanger]

Only one that gets close on the allied side.... Corsair... its the choice of all the 32'ers... they wont go off the beaten track..

Hellcat not enough schemes..
Wildcat not sexy enough..
Dauntless as per Wildcat
Helldiver.. what's one of those..??????

Might see a Seafire...
Firefly/SeaFury be lovely.. but flying pink swine come to mind

Course at the end of the day.. the one you will see .. Zero...... :D
Hellcat has quite a few schemes including FAA, French Navy and Argentina. I like the Wildcat and would love a Dauntless.

[DCRanger]

I do believe there was also prototype Sub-based floating Zero's too? Erm. Cannot remember the name though, but saw a doc a month or so ago on them...... There were 10-15 of them made to attack P.Canal, but the attack never happened and they were recalled due to the US invading....

:)
Are you perhaps thinking of the Yokosuka E14Y1 (Glen)? This was a submarine based aircraft and had the distinction of dropping 2 light bombs on the USA mainland. They landed harmlessly in an Oregon forrest.

[CFBC]

Are you perhaps thinking of the Yokosuka E14Y1 (Glen)? This was a submarine based aircraft and had the distinction of dropping 2 light bombs on the USA mainland. They landed harmlessly in an Oregon forrest.
Aha... I think I may be... I only caught half of the tv doc on them and as such that could be the ones.... Very interesting it was too... Thanks... :)

[Hoverbug]

The one designed to attack the Panama Canal was the Aichi M6A1 Seiran.

http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero/aircraft/aichi_serian.htm

[CFBC]

Hoverbug... Nice find... Was killing me brain trying to remember the name!!!

Very interesting reading, although not a carrier based model, would be nice.... Hmmmmm?

[Craig]

If you're talking naval aircraft it would have to be the Sea Vixen. Lovely aircraft, but I imagine it would be one hell of a piece in 1:32!