Vc 10

[Agent X20]

Broken record here.. anyone see the BA VC 10 as featured in the penultimate Corgi Catalogue..?

Agent X20

[ascot]

Not released yet...in fact the 1/250 DC8's are due out this month...4 months late so the VC10 will probably be with us after Christmas depending on the sales of the DC8

Ascot :)

[Agent X20]

What money the DC-8's coming in at..?

Agent X20

[PH-LKK]

What money the DC-8's coming in at..?

Agent X20Well, Aviation-Center Berlin (www.aviation-center.de (http://www.aviation-center.de/aufab/1gemdc8250.htm)) is pricing them at €69.90. Aviation Retail Direct (www.aviationretaildirect.co.uk (http://aviationretaildirect.co.uk/skelapp/catalogue/ctlg_storeaisle.asp?ObjClsID=0&ObjGrpID=1&ObjPCatID=7&ObjSCatID=0&Keyword=&SortOrder=0&UseGroup=on&UsePCat=on&UseSCat=off&UseKeyword=off)) is pricing them between £48.99 and £49.95. And EZToyz (www.eztoyz.com (http://www.eztoyz.com/)) has them listed at $59.99.

[Agent X20]

Does make you smile then when you can pick up any of the 707's (BOAC excepted) for £15....

Evening Mr Yankee Dutch chappie... nice to see you found the forum...

[PH-LKK]

Thanks Agent! I'm quite glad I was able to get here too. Thanks are due the Unofficial Corgi Aviation Archive (http://www.tricatus.co.uk/), which kindly supplied a link to the new forum. ;)

[Agent X20]

Neat quote.. presume its from old Milhouse... but not as in The Simpsons...!!

[PH-LKK]

Got that right! My favorite Prez. ;)

[Agent X20]

Alright but not the greatest lover of magnetic recording tape..!!

[BSteinIPMS]

Hey, Agent, what's this? Rather an odd one, wouldn't you say? :D

1/200 scale

http://www.jetstreamsusa.com/images/InFlight/IFBOACVC10.jpg

[Agent X20]

Stop it..... 1/200 and more like $200 dollars.... or £200......

There was a listing of about 10 of them on EBay.. by the time I had finished the keyboard was coverd in Drool.... VC10 - Vanguard Argosy Herald Trident Super VC10...Viscount.... all BEA or BOAC, the guy wanted £105 EACH for them.. in fact hes relisted..

then look at his other auctions... theres all sorts there.. nice Pan Am set at £400!!!!!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=419&item=2262326442&rd=1

Do you know anything about these as to whether the box is necessary...?

Slobber

[BSteinIPMS]

No, sorry, but you can check out Jetstreams Inflight series at:

http://www.jetstreamsusa.com

These are VERY nice!

They seem a bit more spendy than Corgi's, but the detail is a bit higher. Many are still available from the manufacturer, which means you may not have to resort to eBay.

[Agent X20]

$250 plus... for a 1/200 VC 10... hells bells.. makes corgi seem quite inexpensive at a tenner..!!!

[BSteinIPMS]

Expensive, yes, but you have to remember that these models are hand-crafted in very limited runs: 50 pieces or less world-wide for the premium line, 200-400 pieces for the standard line.

Plus, and this is a big plus, they're made in the U.K. where workers make a far more decent wage than do the Chinese.....

Just a theory, mind. ;)

[Agent X20]

.mmm workers in the UK... most probably on a lower net income than yer average Chinese chappie... well his net most probably buys him less... :mad:

Naw .. thats really just silly money.. will bang away for a Corgi ten quid
VC-10....!!

[BSteinIPMS]

Just received my copy of "Silent Swift Superb: Story of the Vickers VC10" (Aircraft of Distinction series, of which there are three: Britannia, Comet, VC10)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1902236025/qid=1095175935/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_8_1/202-9747719-0414230

A beautiful book, worth every ha'penny. I found my copy at a used bookstore in the UK using http://www.addall.com, and paid about half price for a "used" but absolutely mint copy.

I'm looking forward to Corgi's imminent release of their 1/144 VC10 series...... :cool:

[Albert Ross]

Just received my copy of "Silent Swift Superb: Story of the Vickers VC10" (Aircraft of Distinction series, of which there are three: Britannia, Comet, VC10)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1902236025/qid=1095175935/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_8_1/202-9747719-0414230

A beautiful book, worth every ha'penny. I found my copy at a used bookstore in the UK using http://www.addall.com, and paid about half price for a "used" but absolutely mint copy.

I'm looking forward to Corgi's imminent release of their 1/144 VC10 series...... :cool:


That book is already being sold new/mint here at half-price. Also the Comet book in the same series. Patiently waiting for the Britannia one to be halved in price as £30 is far too much for these!

[goonybird]

That book is already being sold new/mint here at half-price. Also the Comet book in the same series. Patiently waiting for the Britannia one to be halved in price as £30 is far too much for these!

Me too!! although it appears the britannia book may be selling more and be a bit harder to get cheaper-bit like corgi aviation archive then!!!!!! (if it don't sell,bung 'em in a bin at 50% off.)

[Agent X20]

I'm looking forward to Corgi's imminent release of their 1/144 VC10 series...... :cool:

Me too..... think I have more chance with the lottery....

[goonybird]

Thought it was about time we had a post on here! As stated elsewhere, United Airlines DC8 'stretch' now available- and duly purchased!. Finish is different to Delta in that the polished metal has a brushed appearance. Looks like Gemini may have sorted the manufacturer problems and delays; and therefore hope the other three DC8's and forthcoming VC10 are not too far away. If this range goes where it's alleged e.g. more oldtimers, I may sell all my corgi 1/72 and burn my bridges with AA's!

[Agent X20]

.. or will they issue about half a dozen releases then give up... personally I have little faith 'em any more.. :(

[goonybird]

.. or will they issue about half a dozen releases then give up... personally I have little faith 'em any more.. :(

That was how I felt initially but they do look good, and when you can pick them up for 25-30 notes, I thought can always sell, and at least recoup the dosh. The word around the dealers is Gemini are committed to doing a lot more -the 737 is slated soon, and Gemini apparently chose 1/250th so they can model the 747.

[Agent X20]

Trident - BAC 111 - 707 - 737 727 promised then you could have a convert!!

If Corgi can do 1/32 Mossies, they can do 1/144 747's...

Its just that it is such a BUFF
;)

[Parc Era Igroc]

At last Corgi have listened. The VC10 has arrived, BA and RAF, except you need a goddam electron microscope to see it.

[Albert Ross]

At last Corgi have listened. The VC10 has arrived, BA and RAF, except you need a goddam electron microscope to see it.

No it hasn't, you're getting confused! The VC-10 models illustrated in the latest Diecast Collector magazine are small models in the Showcase range, BOAC and RAF. These are a surprise to me and look very nice.The reason the Gemini Jets VC-10 has been delayed is due to a Corgi management shake-up and the uncertainty about distribution of Gemini Jets in the future. I have heard that around £50,000 has been invested in the VC-10 tooling, so there is no going back now...it will come and first livery will be British Airways.

[Agent X20]

At last Corgi have listened. The VC10 has arrived, BA and RAF, except you need a goddam electron microscope to see it.

You really should pay attention PEI, you have incurred the displeasure of Obersturmgrupenfuhrer Ross...!!! :D :D :D

Nice thought though, Would have thought £50,000 would have given you a decent 1/144 one!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: Standard and Super... with tanker thrown in by 2006 for good luck..... :D

Sold down the river.. :mad:

[Parc Era Igroc]

No it hasn't, you're getting confused! The VC-10 models illustrated in the latest Diecast Collector magazine are small models in the Showcase range, BOAC and RAF. These are a surprise to me and look very nice.The reason the Gemini Jets VC-10 has been delayed is due to a Corgi management shake-up and the uncertainty about distribution of Gemini Jets in the future. I have heard that around £50,000 has been invested in the VC-10 tooling, so there is no going back now...it will come and first livery will be British Airways.

Albert, I was taking the yellow snow :D - I Know they are showcase, hence the microsope to see the bally things! Are you hinting at 50k for the gemini or 1/144th??

[goonybird]

Parc era igroc is dead - DRIBYNOOG is back :D

[shuttle]

£50,000 has to be for a 1/144 AA version? That's the figure Albert has mentioned before for a new tool. It can't be that much for the 'toy' versions? Maybe this is a clue to the second half 2005! I would go for a RAF VC10!

:) Shuttle

[Albert Ross]

£50,000 has to be for a 1/144 AA version? That's the figure Albert has mentioned before for a new tool. It can't be that much for the 'toy' versions? Maybe this is a clue to the second half 2005! I would go for a RAF VC10!

:) Shuttle

The scale has little bearing on the cost, between 1/250th and 1/144th. They still have to get skilled toolmakers to produce the mould and the smaller the scale, the more intricate it is to make it accurate. Look at the price 1/200th diecast models sell at?

[sniperUK]

Look at this and smile.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/sniperUK/232.jpg

[Agent X20]

.. cry more like... wheres me (1/144) die cast... :) ?

[ForkTailedDevil]

From a military point of view there are 3 or 4 schemes available for RAF VC10s. The older white top Transport Command colours, Nimrod style hemp, all over grey and I have a feeling there is another one somewhere.

[goonybird]

From a military point of view there are 3 or 4 schemes available for RAF VC10s. The older white top Transport Command colours, Nimrod style hemp, all over grey and I have a feeling there is another one somewhere.

Gray/green camo? Airfix did it on their model. Then in an obscure way a lot of the RAF are ex civil-does that count?? East African Airways etc. :)

[DCRanger]

From a military point of view there are 3 or 4 schemes available for RAF VC10s. The older white top Transport Command colours, Nimrod style hemp, all over grey and I have a feeling there is another one somewhere.

There was a colour that I don't know what to call, green? with a cheat line down the side. Have a look here for pictures of all the VC10s still in service: http://www.vc10.net/History/RAFVC10s.html

[Agent X20]

Mmmm nice site thanks.. well anything with VC10's is nice..!! so hopefully we are on for a 1/144 one now..????

[ForkTailedDevil]

You can have an 1:144 RAF VC10 built for you right now for £79.50. I have the website for the company that do them. All models are cast in polyurathane resin, with metal details. Undercarriage is optional though I don't particularily like the stand. I suppose you could ask them to substitue a Corgi stand......... I wonder if Nona could supply a few. You could also get a Nimrod MR2 or R1 (£49.50), or a Tristar (£89.50). They also often lots of other different scales for these and other aircraft with some rare types available eg bubble top Jugs in 1:72, radar equiped Me262s,TSR2s or how about a 144 space shuttle?
Quality looks pretty good, some Corgi level, some not quite though you will pay for it, especially in their 1:32s

[plumstix]

You can have an 1:144 RAF VC10 built for you right now for £79.50. I have the website for the company that do them. All models are cast in polyurathane resin, with metal details. Undercarriage is optional though I don't particularily like the stand. I suppose you could ask them to substitue a Corgi stand......... I wonder if Nona could supply a few. You could also get a Nimrod MR2 or R1 (£49.50), or a Tristar (£89.50). They also often lots of other different scales for these and other aircraft with some rare types available eg bubble top Jugs in 1:72, radar equiped Me262s,TSR2s or how about a 144 space shuttle?
Quality looks pretty good, some Corgi level, some not quite though you will pay for it, especially in their 1:32s

TSR2 eh? Couldn't drop me a PM with their web address could you please FTD?

[goonybird]

Just been to Gemini Jets website.
New 1/250th is going to be MD80!! :) Great as I'm hedging bets with DC8's as these are considerably less expensive than most 1/200th diecast.
Point is where's the 'effing VC10 that keeps being bandied about. DURR. :mad:

[Agent X20]

.. was it just the BA livery they were doing or un selection as per the DC-8.

[goonybird]

????? Piccy shows Alaskan MD80

[Agent X20]

What piccie..?

keep takin the pills..

[PH-LKK]

What piccie..?
This one?
http://www.geminijets.com/pics/AJASA006.jpg

[Agent X20]

That is nice.. 1/250..? mmmm...... MUSNT......

[goonybird]

Thanx PH. Nice 250th connie and strat and we're away. Leave corgi with their Black camo'd s*its.

[PH-LKK]

Hey, if Corgi issues a KLM Super Connie, I'll be the first in line! Until then, the pickin's are mighty slim...

[eismeer]

Really amazed to just find out that there were only 54 VC10s built.

A real classic civil and military aircraft, British built as well.

Was it just bad timing with the Boeing 707 being out at the same time or was it just not favoured by the airlines of the time?.

I know the 707 will go down in history as one of the all time greats and i love it just as much, civil and military guises, but was it a case of Boeing and the US Government having more money to throw at the airlines and promote it better than we could the VC10?.

54, jeez we could sell that many on this forum alone :D

[BSteinIPMS]

Really amazed to just find out that there were only 54 VC10s built.

A real classic civil and military aircraft, British built as well.

Was it just bad timing with the Boeing 707 being out at the same time or was it just not favoured by the airlines of the time?.

I know the 707 will go down in history as one of the all time greats and i love it just as much, civil and military guises, but was it a case of Boeing and the US Government having more money to throw at the airlines and promote it better than we could the VC10?.

54, jeez we could sell that many on this forum alone :D

It's a long, twisted, and convoluted story, but the largest nail in the VC10's coffin, according to the book "Silent, Swift Superb: The Vickers VC10" was the fact BOAC really wanted 707s instead. Yes, they took some VC10s, but opted for more 707s, which acquistion policy upset the British government of the day. Pity, from all accounts the VC10 was superior to the 707 in many areas, including noise. By that I mean the VC10 made more, according to the author. :D

Great book, highly recommended.

[eismeer]

Hi Bob.

I think i am gonna have to get me a copy of that VC10 book, it sounds pretty good :) .

As for the noise, i think the Brits sweep the boards for that award with not only the VC10 but also the Trident, BAC1-11....... :D

[Agent X20]

Like many British designs the VC10 was never big enough, they should have started with the Super.. Aagin the Trident and 1-11 should have initially been bigger..

As to noise.. sorry from memory VC-10's were quieter on the inside than 707's were, in fact from the 'Flight' adverts etc.. I thought that was one of the sales points.. On the tarmac they may have been noisier... If yer wanted internal noise then Comets were favourites.. (most probably cos Dan Air removed any insulation.. :D )

[eismeer]

Agent.

Were you lucky enough to have flown in a VC10 ?.

As for 1-11's. I live pretty close to BHX. When they took off every pane of glass in the house shook and the noise drowned out the sound of the telly for what seemed like ages :D .

Funny though, it never bothered me one little bit. Must be your love of something that makes you disregard all the bad points.

Just like Mrs e i suppose :eek:

[Agent X20]

Ha...!! Not lucky.. old....!! Kid at the time... but definitely a better looking bird than the 707 which with the DC8 were the commonplace planes in those days.. and certainly gave BOAC that edge, which I suppose Concorde then gave it when she entered service a decade or so later...

One Elevens.. Courtline... straight over the house every hour, usually during the evening.. all colours.., whilst at ground level... well a couple of hundred feet up we had Tridents constanly circling the house from DeHavs at Hatfield... Should have known better as we moved from Radlett in 1962.. (Victors Victors and other things Handley Page.....) As a kid... great fun.... shame there were not digital cameras then...!

[shuttle]

Some people are still flying the VC10!! Check out VC10s in RAF service (http://www.vc10.net/History/RAFVC10s.html) for details.

:) Shuttle

[Agent X20]

Too old to sign up :mad:

Are all the seats on the RAF VC10 rearward facing..?

[shuttle]

Hopefully not the pilot and co-pilot!!

:D Shuttle

[Agent X20]

Silly post.... everyone knows that their seats swivel..!!

[shuttle]

Agent, are you sure these suckers (http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=712115&WxsIERv=Vmlja2VycyBWQy0xMCAxMTAz&WdsYXMg=T21hbiBSb3lhbCBGbGlnaHQ%3D&QtODMg=QnJvb2tsYW5kcyAoRUdMQik%3D&ERDLTkt=VUsgLSBFbmdsYW5k&ktODMp=Tm92ZW1iZXIgMTUsIDIwMDM%3D&BP=0&WNEb25u=VFogQXZpYXRpb24%3D&xsIERvdWdsY=QTRPLUFC&MgTUQtODMgKE=RmxpZ2h0IGRlY2sgb2YgdGhpcyB3b25kZXJmd WwgYWxsLUJyaXRpc2ggVkMtMTAgYWlybGluZXIsIG5vdyBwcmV zZXJ2ZWQgYmFjayBhdCB0aGUgcGxhY2Ugc2hlIHdhcyBidWlsd C4gSXQncyBxdWl0ZSBhc3RvdW5kaW5nIGhvdyBiaWcgdGhlIGN vY2twaXQgaXMgLSB5b3UgY2FuIGxpdGVyYWxseSB3YWxrIGFyb 3VuZCB0aGUgcGlsb3RzJyBzZWF0cyBhbmQgc3RhbmQgdXAgc3R yYWlnaHQuIFdvbmRlcmZ1bCE%3D&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=MzU2Nw%3D%3D&NEb25uZWxs=MjAwNC0xMS0xNQ%3D%3D&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=ODIw&static=yes&sok=V0hFUkUgIChhaXJjcmFmdF9nZW5lcmljID0gJ1ZpY2tlcn MgVkMtMTAnKSBBTkQgKEZJTkRfSU5fU0VUKCdjb2NrcGl0Jywg c3BlY2lhbCk%2BMCkgIE9SREVSIEJZIHBob3RvX2lkIERFU0M% 3D&photo_nr=1&size=L) swivel????

:) Shuttle

[Agent X20]

They must do if you say they are all rearward facing!!! :D :D :D

[shuttle]

Eh????

:confused: Shuttle

[Agent X20]

Joking...! :D

Okay.. start again.. are the 'passenger' seats in the VC-10 rearward facing..?

[sniperUK]

At autumn camp at Leuchars two of my cadets got a flight in one it was refueling 617 tonkas and one of them got some first class air to air shot of them.Every one was given a tour and it certainly didnt look out of date.
His pic
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/sniperUK/leuchcmp04p014.jpg
My pic
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/sniperUK/227.jpg

[Agent X20]

The reference to old was me.. not the plane.. that's classic....

[BSteinIPMS]

As to noise.. sorry from memory VC-10's were quieter on the inside than 707's were, in fact from the 'Flight' adverts etc.. I thought that was one of the sales points.. On the tarmac they may have been noisier... If yer wanted internal noise then Comets were favourites.. (most probably cos Dan Air removed any insulation.. :D )

Yer memory is pretty good, Agent. All of my VC10 books state the cabin was one of the quietest in the industry, much quieter for passengers than the 707. But it's the noise outside we're referring to, and according to the author (whose love and fascination for this grand old bird comes through on each page) the VC10 had no civil equal for shattering eardrums. :D

And yes, all the RAF birds had rearward facing passenger seats, at least according to the aforementioned book. But not the pilots'. :D

(Eismeer, you'll get used to Agent's sense of humor eventually. ;) )

[goonybird]

Like many British designs the VC10 was never big enough, they should have started with the Super.. Aagin the Trident and 1-11 should have initially been bigger..

As to noise.. sorry from memory VC-10's were quieter on the inside than 707's were, in fact from the 'Flight' adverts etc.. I thought that was one of the sales points.. On the tarmac they may have been noisier... If yer wanted internal noise then Comets were favourites.. (most probably cos Dan Air removed any insulation.. :D )

From memory? I reckon the VC10 was slightly quieter than early 707's on take off. There wasn't much in it. The american designs were all short to start with as well. look at DC9-1x, B727-1xx, B707-1xx. Problem as always is balance of size/weight to engine thrust available at the time. As an engine design improved, the fuselage could be stretched to accomodate more pax.

BTW At the time (1960s) we lived in Hanworth about 3 miles from LHR. Taking off of 10R (9R) would be low over our house and school. Early Pan Am 707s with water injection Noisiest and Smokiest by far.

[diecaster]

[QUOTE=goonybird]From memory? I reckon the VC10 was slightly quieter than early 707's on take off. There wasn't much in it.

The VC10s certainly shook the windows more than any B707 I remember but that was in the late 60s and early 70s :eek: , I was 5 miles south of LHR at that time, occassionally see them now routing into Brize at about 12-14,000 ft and realised that I should have taken many more pictures in my youth of older airliners that are long since gone and sorely missed ! ... :confused:

Diecaster

[eismeer]

Agent.

I think there are many of us who wish we had taken more pics from those years. Digital cameras of today certainly make it a lot easier though and most have some sort of zoom as well.

Saw a funny thing at an airshow earlier this year. Some guy taking a photo of the Reds while in diamond formation with his camera phone :eek:. Certainly had the pro's around him with their 400mm telephoto lenses cracking up :D .

[eismeer]

Bob.

Another good reason (well four actually) for the noise of the VC10. Each engine producing 22,000lb of thrust. Good job they put em at the rear of the fuselage. If they had been wing mounted they would have tore the wings off :D .

As for Agents sense of humour, am getting to grips with it :)

[goonybird]

[QUOTE=goonybird]From memory? I reckon the VC10 was slightly quieter than early 707's on take off. There wasn't much in it.

The VC10s certainly shook the windows more than any B707 I remember but that was in the late 60s and early 70s :eek: , I was 5 miles south of LHR at that time, occassionally see them now routing into Brize at about 12-14,000 ft and realised that I should have taken many more pictures in my youth of older airliners that are long since gone and sorely missed ! ... :confused:

Diecaster

Must admit by the 70s they were one of the noiser planes. Who the hell thought of noise regulations!
We get them over us about 8-10,000 into Brize westbound through Daventry corridor.

So anyway back to the point...Where the hell is our VC10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[eismeer]

AND QUICK.

Before goonybird does something like........... :D

[BSteinIPMS]

So anyway back to the point...Where the hell is our VC10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, right here, G/B! :D

[BSteinIPMS]

....and here, too! :D

[Agent X20]

80% lovely 20% .. who modelled those engines!!!!!!

The rearward facing seets.. didnt that stop with the Tristar..?

[BSteinIPMS]

80% lovely 20% .. who modelled those engines!!!!

Corgi did, actually. These are two new ones in their Showcase line. It's a start..... :rolleyes:

[Agent X20]

But those engines!!!!!!!!

[NeilD]

But those engines!!!!!!!!

so how much more difficult/expensive would it to have been to have moulded them correctly or even near to the right shape.. Aaaaargh! :eek:
Neil.

[Agent X20]

Exactamundo....!!!

[goonybird]

Thanks for piccies Bob.
...Not one of Albert's then?

[BSteinIPMS]

Thanks for piccies Bob.
...Not one of Albert's then?

I'm not certain of the extent of AlbertRoss' input to the Showcase line, Goony. One of the US Web sites of a major Corgi dealer has a number of photos of the new Showcase releases from which I plundered these Corgi photos. It may help to remember that these diminutive models are a bit smaller than the photos I posted.

Other new releases in the Showcase line are a camouflaged RAF F-86 Sabre, several marks of Mossies, a couple of Lancs, the Red Arrows Hawk (FINALLY, HERE IN THE USA...!!), several B-52s, B-1s, B-17s, AH-64 Apache, the 'round engine' H-34 Choctaw in USMC markings, an RAF E-3A AWACS, the two VC10s, several B-24s, and, get this, a yellow rescue Wessex. Pics follow of some of these, and Admin, leave me alone: these are official Corgi photos in the publick domain which I ain't stole from someone else. :D

We still can't get the Dark Green/Earth/Yellow trainer, CS90269 RAF Tiger Moth T6818, over here yet. :(

[BSteinIPMS]

Four more of possible interest to you characters are:

[Agent X20]

That Dan Air Dak looks a little tasty..!

1/144 please Albert.. cos yuo do copy the schemes throughout the ranges..!!

[BSteinIPMS]

I wish they'd copy the Boeing 314 Clipper in 1/144.... :D

[Agent X20]

mmmm.... whilst the requirement for the more fanciful would be nice, be better and surely very profitable for Corgi if they put the likes of a 737/727 out....

But hell they cant market...!! .. and the really silly thing is there is no die cast 1/144 competition...!!!!!!!!!!

[BSteinIPMS]

Oh, I know, I was just having a Flight of Fancy......dreaming of the possibilities, y'know.

And yes, you're correct on both issues. :D

[goonybird]

I am buying some showcase and Lledo when cheap. Mainly civils, But detail isn't brill. Bob that corgi tiger moth is also available slightly different as a Lledo Pioneers of Aviation. One problem is the reg is done as 2-5130. Think this was meant to be T5130? color is Brown green camo over yellow. I think these are the same moulds. Worth a look. ATB :)

Reminds me to get back to my Airfix B314. Cant decide on BOAC Camo or PanAm silver?

[Albert Ross]

I wish they'd copy the Boeing 314 Clipper in 1/144.... :D

Surprised to hear that from an experienced modeller...what's wrong with the Airfix/Minicraft kit? :confused:

[Albert Ross]

Thanks for piccies Bob.
...Not one of Albert's then?

It won't get past the front door if it has those engines on it!! As always, wait for the production run before commenting on the prototype?

[BSteinIPMS]

Surprised to hear that from an experienced modeller...what's wrong with the Airfix/Minicraft kit? :confused:

It's a dichotomy, I supppose, that a modeler could also collect and be pleased with Corgi diecasts, as Agent and I have gone round and round about. The Airfix/Minicraft kit is very good, but there's a part of me that would like four heavy, substantial Corgi B-314s to place alongside my four heavy, substantial Corgi Sunderlands. :D

[goonybird]

Albert, memo to Corgi. Can we have an enlarging device to make showcase airliner models into 1/144th :D :D :D

Ok so were onto a 144th Boeing 314 Clipper Campaign then are we??? :rolleyes:

[charley]

Aren't some of the Showcase models 1:144... :confused:


I don't touch em as they are generally a mish mash of different scales. :(

[goonybird]

sorry charley, edited now!

[charley]

Ah GB!

I was curious as to which Showcase models were 1:144, i wasn't questioning your post :o sorry... :o

[Agent X20]

It won't get past the front door if it has those engines on it!! As always, wait for the production run before commenting on the prototype?

Ah ha... hope...... We have to say that /... still dont stop em putting four bladed shadows on a Spit V....!!!!

Right so that the engines sorted.. just the cockpit and the scale now..!!

[NeilD]

1/200 scale BOAC one went for about £80 on e-bay today.. missed out on the DC-7, forgot it was finishing!! :eek: another £1 it coul've been mine.. or not..
Neil.

[Agent X20]

Think the word is merde....
Used to troll e Bay.. not so much now....

DC7 mmm....

[eismeer]

Try this one

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=419&item=6508911970&rd=1

When will Corgi give us one of these beauties :cool:

[goonybird]

Been watching that, but tail doesn't look correct??

[NeilD]

Been watching that, but tail doesn't look correct??

nah looks like its about to slip off the back of the fuselage!! :D think it may be a photo thing... although the the engine nacelle, or just the stripe?, looks a bit cock-eyed too, thourght it would be parallel with the fuse stripe.. and for my liking theres too much white at the top of the fin... but its still better than Corgis offering! :D

[goonybird]

Price starting to go a bit ballistic though. As with the Dak/ vanguard/ bac111/ argosy. Would have to be under 50 sovs for me. only one that was close was the viking at 26sovs.
Still looks wrong on that tail , should be blue to under the tail fin , not white.
looks like it either tilts? or has come loose? :)

[Agent X20]

The tail did tilt .. it was an all flying tail... bet they took it from a dodgy photo...

[diecaster]

The long awaited VC-10 from Gemini in 1/250 apperas to be available as I have today recievd a mail from Mach I*I listing it as such.

Also, the 737-800s are now available (DAL/COA) and look tail high and bad from an undercarriage point of view, these are running at about £30 per model. On the plus side they appear to come with a stand, something the early DC-8s could have done with, would have stopped them falling down on their u/c, the reason I sold my DAL version on..

Diecaster

[NeilD]

any mention of what scheme, or price?? :eek:

[goonybird]

Nope. But would have thought price circa as per DC8. That was originally £49, but with recent exchange rates £39 RRP would be close. I'm happy paying that, as are unlikely to be discounted. The new B737's are coming in at £29. the best US price on these is about £18.50! But just had quote to get both and that worked out at about £49 inc p&p to the UK for the pair. For the sake of a tenner that ain't worth it, especially if you take HM moneybags into the equation. Rather see what I'm buying thanks. :)
Also finish on these is 'Top notch' with retractable undercarriage. Just hope they do more.
Re: diecasters post, carts on 737 did look a bit frail? tail looked ok to me?
I must be lucky with my 1st issue delta dc8. Havn't had any problems.
Apparently next model after md80 and vc10 is a B737-700? odd choice I thought. After initial 737. ATB

[diecaster]

G/B glad to hear that yer greasy plate manages to stand up - although as you are probably aware there were some problems in this area. Have done some more digging in me mail and found the following price wise for new 1/250s:

Trans Caribbean DC-8-61 £39.99
Air Jamaica DC-8-61 £39.99
Eastern white top DC-8-61 £39.99
British Airways Super VC-10 £39.99
Alaska MD-80 £29.99

These are all Mach I*I prices so as a member you can knock off 10% so VC-10 comes in at £ 36 ish. May get a chance to see one at Luton or Sandown Park at the weekend. Bit acadmic really cos of the amount that are sitting in boxes waiting to go into cabinets. :eek: :eek:

Diecaster

[Agent X20]

VC10 - £36 that will do..!!!!!

Can you PM me with a link... pretty please..

[NeilD]

VC10 - £36 that will do..!!!!!

Can you PM me with a link... pretty please..

me too Diecaster please !!
Neil.

[Agent X20]

Think hes gone off line.. :(

[NeilD]

probably gone to get an order in for a job lot of VC10's.. I think originally the first release was gonna be a British Airways one.. wonder if thats still so..?
Neil.

[diecaster]

Have e-mailed you both direct guys..

Diecatser

[diecaster]

Anyone else after GJs 1/250 or 1/400 it's worh noting this top link from which you will find details of all major distributors worldwide :

http://www.geminijets.com/retailers/

It's just possible that Mach I*I are a little premature with the VC-10 but I guess it really is imminent :confused: or maybe indeed available , it's just not yet up on the available items on the GJ page, still that'll give yer all a bit more time to add more dosh to the fund won't it ;) :confused:

Diecaster