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Red 2
18th April 2006, 20:56
Classic or destined for the creaking shelves on the airshow circuit?:unsure:

Will get one (please can Corgi also get those nice people with a strange liking for sharks to check it over before production release) but when???

G-force
18th April 2006, 21:13
Classic I reckon, lots of appeal. What're the run numbers. Too big and it's doomed though.

Greycap Leader
18th April 2006, 23:16
Classic I reckon, lots of appeal. What're the run numbers. Too big and it's doomed though.

I'll 2nd that GF, absolute stunner!

SSRST
19th April 2006, 15:26
This is possibly the highlight of the catalogue for me as I am a big fan of the prototype Spitfire and it is great to see that Corgi are now using their brains a little and producing models of relevance. Although I am not aware of the run numbers it would have been nice if this were a real collector’s piece and only seventy of them were produced, but then again that would be suicide for Corgi.

The model itself, although a kind of representation, does not encapsulate the look of K5054 at all. I am of course only going off images in the catalogue which are presumably pre-production samples.

The canopy is the biggest issue. The prototype had a very straight edged canopy which was even carried over to the Spitfire itself, and flowed directly from the ‘razorback’ section. The images show clear curves and most off putting is the incline from the ‘razorback’ to the main canopy.

The fuselage is a good shape, and it is nice to see the modified engine nacelles which are quite accurate. However, there was an extra pitot on the left side of the engine cowl which is absent.

The lack of a tailwheel is a reassuring touch. An issue with the undercarriage is the lack of doors which when open would be clearly visible protruding between the wheels. These are not present.

The colour seems very light in the catalogue. I have seen it pictured far too dark previously, but never this light. I hope this will be corrected. It would have been nice to see a bare metal version, as this was how it was when it first flew in March.

The inclusion of ‘Sigh For a Merlin’ is a great idea and will make this into a real collectors package. A nice grassy base with a stool for the tail strut would finish it off superbly. This has the potential to be a very successful piece, and if th problems are addressed and the aircraft is nicely packaged, I don’t doubt it will be.

Mark

G-force
19th April 2006, 15:47
Seems strange they would "heavily modify" the mould for this piece, Makes you wonder what the future of the mould is. As for the bare metal version, First Shot perhaps?

SSRST
19th April 2006, 15:56
Yes it does seem very strange...maybe they have finally come to their senses...although it would probably have been easier to re-tool for a spitfire MkI and get the prototype from that, rather than trying to use a MkV.

It would look good as a first shots but I feel the plastic would ruin the effect of the beautiful bare metal version.

Mark

lovethoseplanes
19th April 2006, 16:02
It would look good as a first shots but I feel the plastic would ruin the effect of the beautiful bare metal version.

Mark

Have to agree Mark that the plastic would ruin the effects if it is done as a metal version. Just look at the first shot Hurricane. :) It will be interesting to find out the run size, but I fear it will not be as low as we would like as the RRP via the CHC is £99.00 (£79.99 discounted), so would suggest a normal volume run for Corgi.

Here is the Spitfire Prototype.

G-force
19th April 2006, 16:29
As long as they don't think about a first shots Mustang.

Red 2
19th April 2006, 17:25
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The canopy is the biggest issue. The prototype had a very straight edged canopy which was even carried over to the Spitfire itself, and flowed directly from the ‘razorback’ section. The images show clear curves and most off putting is the incline from the ‘razorback’ to the main canopy.

An issue with the undercarriage is the lack of doors which when open would be clearly visible protruding between the wheels. These are not present.



Agree that the image's canopy seems dodgy and the folding undercarriage doors are missing - a must to be accurate of the protype's early days.Also, the fuselage roundel looks too small. The image is clearly not production ready and I would hope/expect Corgi to sort these issues out- if they do, I'll have one.

Agent X20
19th April 2006, 17:35
Also thought the roundel was too small but looking at the photties it seems to be right...

Of course could just take the doors off altogether..

Really could do with an exhaust stain..

Which bit of the canopy are we talking about.. the front bit or the slidey bit...?

What I dont want to see is the gap between top and bottom halves of wing which the pre pro has.. otherwise tis the one I want from the 06 II cat..

prune
19th April 2006, 17:42
The canopy is the biggest issue. The prototype had a very straight edged canopy which was even carried over to the Spitfire itself, and flowed directly from the ‘razorback’ section. The images show clear curves and most off putting is the incline from the ‘razorback’ to the main canopy.

Mark
See what you mean, the line from the front windscreen to where the ariel should be, should be an almost perfectly straight line.

prune
19th April 2006, 17:47
Really could do with an exhaust stain..

If ever a model needed weathering its this one. The size of the model,and being all light blue will make it look too toy like. A wash of dirty thinners would give it some depth.

Red 2
19th April 2006, 17:50
Also thought the roundel was too small but looking at the photties it seems to be right...

Of course could just take the doors off altogether..

Really could do with an exhaust stain..

Which bit of the canopy are we talking about.. the front bit or the slidey bit...?

What I dont want to see is the gap between top and bottom halves of wing which the pre pro has.. otherwise tis the one I want from the 06 II cat..

Still not sure about the roundel....dragged out some books and it extended down to near the root fairing and started level with the canopy base. However, it seems to have changed with repainting:eek:

Slidey & rear bit bothers me - photo shows rear flat in line with fuselage and slider carrying on that line, no curves. Could not have been easy for an average sized pilot!

And please can they get the wing dihedral right!:rolleyes:

Like the exhaust stain thought, often think it would enhance certain warbirds but I know I am in the minority!

SSRST
19th April 2006, 20:13
Red 2, how can you be a minority...it would greatly enhance the appearence and realism of any model!

The canopy is just wrong full stop. The slidey bit should carry on the perfectly straight line of the rear secion and this should follow on from fuselage. It is worrying as the canopy has already been modified by the looks of the pictures as it has a single piece front panel which has not been featured before.

The dihedral will be the same as the one for the mkV I would guess, as this is one of the few bits they will not have to modify. I dont think that is all too bad.

The roundel looks far too small to me, starting too low and ending too high. However, this aircraft did benefit from numerous repaints and I would guess that discrepancies have occured due to this. I think we will have to put up with this as there are numerous combinations of markings which have all been recorded to be correct. For exmple, I have seen a number of photos where this aircraft has no markings on its tail.

Mark

DCRanger
19th April 2006, 20:34
Noticed a couple of references to MKVs, why? So far in 1/32, we have had only has MkIs, MkII's and MKIIa's. Presume also that the mention of retooling the casting to a MKI referred to a two blade MKI with the early type canopy as opposed to the three blade MKI?

SSRST
19th April 2006, 20:44
Sorry that would be my fault, I am all confused.

I should have said that it would be better to tool for an early MKI and take the prototype from that.

Thanks


Mark

Agent X20
19th April 2006, 21:03
The canopy is just wrong full stop. The slidey bit should carry on the perfectly straight line of the rear secion and this should follow on from fuselage. It is worrying as the canopy has already been modified by the looks of the pictures as it has a single piece front panel which has not been featured before.
See what you mean, hopefully they will replace what looks like a bulged hood...

Red 2
19th April 2006, 21:17
The dihedral will be the same as the one for the mkV I would guess, as this is one of the few bits they will not have to modify. I dont think that is all too bad.


Mark

I think the dihedral is a QA issue in terms of assembly - I have 2 nr 1/32 Spits, one is fine :D and the other has no dihedral at all! :(

SSRST
19th April 2006, 22:22
That seems extremely odd. All of mine have been fine. I think that to try and judge what should be a 6 degrees dihedral is very hard, and the error thresholds are very small anyway, as a concequence of the minimal deflection.

If the one with no dihedral is the battle scarred one then I will be very impressed, Corgi are taking fatigue into account too :D

Red 2
23rd April 2006, 14:23
Ah, Corgi ahead of the game with the drooping war weary wings...:LOL:

Attached is what I expect a Spit to look like and, sadly, my PR-F is flat as a pancake.:( Bader Spit perfect so PR-F is displayed from rear 3/4 which is not so bad...lesson re checking a model before handing over the cash!!

Anyone out there with, ahem, intimate relations with the pooch able to confirm whether the issues re the prototype's canopy, undercarriage fairings and colour scheme will be resolved before issue? Hope so, a must for my shelf if so.....:)

prune
23rd April 2006, 14:38
This has been discussed a few times Red 2, I bent some dihedral on my Lane Spit no problem.

Red 2
23rd April 2006, 18:53
This has been discussed a few times Red 2, I bent some dihedral on my Lane Spit no problem.

Thanks,will try some old fashioned brute force...:eek: ..but if it all goes wrong, I could claim it was a little known version of the gull winged Type 224!!!:D

Gambit
23rd April 2006, 23:30
Classic I reckon, lots of appeal. What're the run numbers. Too big and it's doomed though.
Maybe a classic over there but I can't see this as a big seller over here.

G-force
23rd April 2006, 23:33
But how well does any of the stuff sell over there? We get alot of it back.

Av8tor
24th April 2006, 10:14
Would guess at 1936 for run size but that may not be enough for the hound's appetite. The other LE 1/32 Spits range from 2500-4800 with only the working models below 2000.

Without the camouflage, almost looks civilian.

Av8tor :LOL:

Craig
25th April 2006, 13:06
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but where is the link to this new catalogue? I've not been able to find it. I've got the newsletter with the written details of the new releases, but really want to see the pics! Any help much appreciated guys! As for the prototype Spitfire, not really my scene I'm afraid, but nonetheless a commendable release in the Spitfire's 70th year. They appear to be getting there!

Agent Carr
25th April 2006, 13:11
As for the prototype Spitfire, not really my scene I'm afraid, but nonetheless a commendable release in the Spitfire's 90th year. They appear to be getting there!

Would loved to have seen a Spitfire in the First World War!

Agent X20
25th April 2006, 13:11
in the Spitfire's 90th year.

sheeet...........Where the last twenty years go...??

I think they have pulled it..

If you go to Norfolks finest, its on there....

Craig
25th April 2006, 13:58
B****r. That's embarrassing :o . Just been reading thread on 90th Anniversary Tornado, brain hasn't caught up, and the rest of course is history. Sorry, should have read 70th! Thanks for the directions Agent!

Agent X20
25th April 2006, 14:59
Ah.. back in time we go.... phew..

Dutchie
22nd May 2006, 21:56
spit in light blue :rolleyes: will give collection some spit-art.

charley
22nd May 2006, 22:10
spit in light blue :rolleyes: will give collection some spit-art.

Pre-Pro looked awful in the Corgi Roadshow on Sunday... I know its a pre-pro however I might just hold off on this one:(

Martin Bull
22nd May 2006, 22:20
Overheard other people saying how great it looked....

Not my personal cup of tea, but I think this will be one of those you-either-love-it-or-hate-it models.

Dutchie
22nd May 2006, 22:50
Pre-Pro looked awful in the Corgi Roadshow on Sunday... I know its a pre-pro however I might just hold off on this one:(
It is a pity, no Corgi Roadshow in Holland, have to wait until release date:cool:

DCRanger
22nd May 2006, 22:56
I find the prototype an odd choice even by Corgi standards. It's a one off aircraft with so many differences from the production models I wouldn't have thought it worthwhile modifying the casting and they wouldn't do a one off casting would they???? No of course not :LOL:

Agent X20
22nd May 2006, 23:26
Will just have to see what the finished article looks like..:D