What.. for a SeaKing..!!

[Agent X20]

mmm

seems Helicopters are becoming rare....

Today on the Bay.. (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=56313&item=6928795333&rd=1)

[ascot]

mmm

seems Helicopters are becoming rare....

Today on the Bay.. (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=56313&item=6928795333&rd=1)

I dodn't know money to burn these people :eek:

[The Defiant Man]

Saw this & thought it was a bit OTT, but then again, the Rescue one doesn't seem to come along that often.....

[goonybird]

mmm, there were never many of these around, yet a ltd edition of 4100!. me thinks a bit of dealer speculation again, i.e. Price held artificially high (£30 +) and then hold 'em back and drip feed the market. :rolleyes:

[spock1]

:confused: Mr. GB and all,

I do not think, or to be more precise, I know there are that many about these days but then who really knows ?? Whilst 4,100 may seem a lot consider if you will how many people owe their lives to the real thing ??

The sad fact is too few of this model were made imho............ :mad:

[CFBC]

Thats Ebay for yer..... Just like the D.D Spit......

Wait six months and it will be down again or double the price..... Simple.... Yer take yer chances..... :)

[ascot]

It all comes down to patience although there is a trend that when a model reaches a high level it stays there for a while then goes back down again. Supply and Demand. Look at the Tuck Spits Up, down and looks like they could be on the up again.....very strange.

[Agent X20]

Still going strong.. see three figures..?

[ascot]

I am sure they will get there then drop again after the 5 or so people that pay the silly money all get hold of one. Why don't they buy em when they come out, save a fortune. Like the Tuck Spit...6 months of advertising before release then 2 weeks after release the idiots are paying double/triple for it. Mental or what!!!!

[Agent X20]

.. will happen again with the CHC Mossie...

[ascot]

Yup and I bet they are sitting there thinking wow that looks good I will wait till it hits £100 then get one. :D

[Agent X20]

Wot like Blue Hurricanes.... they should try joining the club...

[ascot]

Blue Hurricanes....mmm I still like mine and it is different but I would not pay the cash that some are parting for it.

[Agent X20]

£32 smackers was enough....

[ascot]

cheaper with corgi collectors card at a certain shop near EGLL. :)

[Agent X20]

Thats cos you is smarter than me.....

[G-force]

I was looking forward to getting one of those but that is just mental, look at the postage as well, £6.50!!!! As for demand, there will always be people that aren't in the know about particular subjects and think that because they see them at that price, that is what you pay. Ebay seems to attract people with no particular interest, and just like the look of certain items. Fishing items are worse I think in comparison as I have seen items go for three and four times the shop price, and they aren't limited editions, items any tackle shop will sell.

[ascot]

A simple equation

buy 2 then flog one one Ebay= the other one free

[Agent X20]

I was looking forward to getting one of those but that is just mental, look at the postage as well, £6.50!!!!

Wheres that from..? Thought the £32 was including postage...

[ascot]

seems like someone was taking the pip

[Agent X20]

seems its the one on the Bay at the moment.. sitting at £65 reserve not met... and no bids.... and 6.50 postage...

[G-force]

Ends up at £81. That is really extracting the human liquid waste

[Agent X20]

Next time I see one of those in dealers I need to have a little punt..!!!

[spock1]

and 6.50 postage...
:cool: Agent and all,

Corgi Sea King, PROPERLY packed = £5.82 for 1st Class Recorded Delivery. In the case of this yellow beauty suggest Special Delivery more appropriate at £6.55 then allow a few pence for packing!!!!!..........imho............ ;)

[Agent X20]

Spock et al.. :D :D

I was talking blue Hurricanes... (at the time..) like I was looking at him but talking to you... Spoons.....

Naw it was 6.50 on the Hurricane.. :(

[ascot]

£6.50 shipping on the Hurricane ......it was that high to protect the Blue paint :p

[spock1]

:confused: Apologies folks but thought this was the Heli thread. Max. p. and p. for a Hurricance of mega :confused: value circa £5.50 including Special Delivery otherwise £3.50!!.

Perhaps a suitable ditty in the Blue Hurricance thread should an opportune intermission arise??.......... :D

[Agent X20]

So did I but theres a bit of Hurricane in every thread....

Hence :- I was talking blue Hurricanes... (at the time..) like I was looking at him but talking to you... Spoons.....

[ascot]

or is there a thread in every Hurricane

[Agent X20]

Still silly money for a chopper, havent these guys heard of dealers...?? Even sillier money for Blue Hurricanes which up until last week were available at £32 from Corgi if you joined their club... gather they are now closed... still got some Viscounts available.....

Wonder what 2005 will be..? new thread time....??

[Kiwi Dave]

I bought my yellow RAF Sea King about 2 months ago off eBay for GBP16.00 BIN, I thought at the time it was a good buy! :)

[ascot]

Thats e-bay for you, it will be some months till it drops back to bin levels but I expect there will be loads of them up for auction soon as the bandwagon is taken up.

Ascot :)

[Agent X20]

Nice to see Dambuster Lancs coming down...

[ascot]

Non ltd, loadsa them around.

[Agent X20]

Hopefully about £30 Agent will then pounce.... and consequently watch them drop to a score.. (£20 for the Yankee readers..) :D :(

[ascot]

£30 and Ascot will pounce too, still waitin :rolleyes:

[Agent X20]

Fight yer for it.... other halves at dawn...

(In fact thinkin again.. might have to go to £35 on that one, but I supppose it's all about how many they have made.... The RCAF Lanc is on its last legs at £35..... must hurry up and secure one of those... any dealer wishing to trade at £20 please send a PM....!!! I wont squeal... Watch out watch out theres a Jaffa about...) :D

[ascot]

£30-£35 what the heck

[Agent X20]

Couple of pints in there Ascot... Couple and a chip butty if you come from CFBC land... £5 after tax.. £10 before...!!!

[ascot]

I thought it was meat pie land ekkithump

[Agent X20]

Not fer a fiver Ascot.... yould get change from a fiver.....

[Albert Ross]

Nice to see Dambuster Lancs coming down...

yeah, in your bath!!! :p

[Agent X20]

Only place for them, you should try it some time old sport... just dont let Mrs Ross see you navigating between the bathtaps otherwise she will have you sectioned...

... too late for me..

[mozzer]

I must have been very lucky then, as I managed to get one recently from ebay, in the USA for BIN of about £20.00.

:)

[ForkTailedDevil]

Ker Ching!!!!!!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Corgi-RAF-SAR-SEA-KING-AA33404_W0QQitemZ6974644248QQcategoryZ56313QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem

[maple 01]

Got one of those too......rich.....rich I say!

[G-force]

Ker Ching!!!!!!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Corgi-RAF-SAR-SEA-KING-AA33404_W0QQitemZ6974644248QQcategoryZ56313QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem


Makes this seem almost reasonable -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6974696094&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Wonder what they'll go for?

[Red Leader]

Insanity!!

[rmorley]

Insanity!!

At least we haven't (yet) seen a Presidential SeaKing go for that...

:) :D :)


Ah love America! Ah am Jee-orge Dubya Buush! God tells me whatta do!

[G-force]

See what they ended at?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6974696094&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

[CFBC]

Based on the past SARS price of over a hundred quid for that alone, then that is a bargain G/F.... :D

[G-force]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AA33404-YELLOW-SEA-KING-HAR3-XZ597-AIR-SEA-RESCUE-33404_W0QQitemZ6977160621QQcategoryZ56313QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem

[Agent X20]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AA33404-YELLOW-SEA-KING-HAR3-XZ597-AIR-SEA-RESCUE-33404_W0QQitemZ6977160621QQcategoryZ56313QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem
Dealer... or another one bites the dust..??

[G-force]

Well, he's gonna be listing alot of it over the next while. Be interesting to see the buy it now price for the Bucc., £60 anyone?

[Agent X20]

Collector.. IMHO... trying to get round an Ebay listing fee or two.. they are making so much money they dont care if they lose one or two sales...

.. Best thing put em on as 99p lots... get hold of some bubble wrap and get shot of em... :D

[The Defiant Man]

Collector.. IMHO... trying to get round an Ebay listing fee or two.. they are making so much money they dont care if they lose one or two sales...

.. Best thing put em on as 99p lots... get hold of some bubble wrap and get shot of em... :D

Maybe a collector thinning out or part-time dealer......he paid £190 for the BOAC Mossie only a little while back....

Fair do's though....won't close early and free P&P if over £100.....

[Agent X20]

Anyway Yellow was last years colour...

.. this is the real money that Corgi Sea Kings are worth..

RARE CORGI SEA KING (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-CORGI-AVIATION-PRE-PRODUCTION-MODEL-SEA-KING_W0QQitemZ6977884992QQcategoryZ56313QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem)

Good luck to him... me I am off home to wrap me prepro Tuck Hurricane and Air Sea Rescue Spit in cotton wool.... ( At present they sit on top of the compooter monitor - that is when they havent crashed to the floor...)

[G-force]

Doesn't even have a box or stand.

[The Defiant Man]

Anyway Yellow was last years colour...

.. this is the real money that Corgi Sea Kings are worth..

RARE CORGI SEA KING (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-CORGI-AVIATION-PRE-PRODUCTION-MODEL-SEA-KING_W0QQitemZ6977884992QQcategoryZ56313QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem)

Good luck to him... me I am off home to wrap me prepro Tuck Hurricane and Air Sea Rescue Spit in cotton wool.... ( At present they sit on top of the compooter monitor - that is when they havent crashed to the floor...)
'Scuse my ignorance, but how does it differ from the normal model (had a very quick check and couldn't see anything). :confused:
Even so, about £450 too expensive.... :rolleyes:

[Agent X20]

Prepros are usually hand painted and come with transfers, rather than tampo printing .. they do the rounds at the roadshows before Mr Wong pushes the t1t and out pop a couple of thousand.. pre pro as in preproduction..

In reality the have gone for diddely squat money and in the main a dealer in Harlow had many of them for sale.. I picked up me Tuck Hurricane for a couple of quid.. no box no stand and only the up undercart bits...

HOWEVER.. what would be valuable IMHO would be the Chrome Lightning pre pro (which was silver) .. the Cathay Pacfic 707 and even the Mountbatten York model.. surprised someone aint 'tried it on' with the last one..

Add to that the two Phantoms that aint appeared...

If thats prepro out the way... anyone want to explain what all the codes are .. as in this is a Code 3 model...??

[normand]

The seaking hoard investors,with lightning anti-flash,like sticker a' round arrestors on zero's strapped for crash.......poet NORMAND

[TankBuster]

Glad I bought my Yellow Sea King when it was first released....Phew!

It takes pride of place in my collection. A very nice model indeed:)

TankBuster

[ForkTailedDevil]

Has anyone ever though about commisioning a couple thousand SAR Sea Kings or would they just get lynched by all those people that bought theirs for £100+ and those that thought they were going to make a few quid ontheirs.

[TankBuster]

Another SAR Sea King has appeared on evilbay.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CORGI-AVIATION-ARCHIVE-WESTLAND-SEA-KING-AA33404_W0QQitemZ7023135359QQcategoryZ56313QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem

TankBuster.

[rmorley]

Anyway Yellow was last years colour...

.. this is the real money that Corgi Sea Kings are worth..

RARE CORGI SEA KING (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-CORGI-AVIATION-PRE-PRODUCTION-MODEL-SEA-KING_W0QQitemZ6977884992QQcategoryZ56313QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem)

Good luck to him... me I am off home to wrap me prepro Tuck Hurricane and Air Sea Rescue Spit in cotton wool.... ( At present they sit on top of the compooter monitor - that is when they havent crashed to the floor...)

Well, if this year's is red an' grey, ye can pick up the RN Sea King pre-pro on the bay now...

How about French Navy Lanc pre-pro? Aussie mossie pre-pro? NGNG pre-pro (According to CHC the greatest per-pro ever) went for £10!

I think Code 1 is new, Code 2 is detailed, original finish, Code 3 is repaint. Dunno, though, only guessing.

[ETOPS]

Glad I got myself a nice Sea King on eBay: Chink 69, the Marine one, with the great story behind it of the Silver Medal winner. Got the model last month for a grand total of 23 quid including 9 pounds (gasp) shipping costs to Holland.
You are all quite right, the prices for Sea Kings , being either Limited Eds or not, are indeed out of this world. And its an ugly machine at that:D

[Red 2]

Glad I got myself a nice Sea King on eBay: Chink 69, the Marine one, with the great story behind it of the Silver Medal winner. Got the model last month for a grand total of 23 quid including 9 pounds (gasp) shipping costs to Holland.
You are all quite right, the prices for Sea Kings , being either Limited Eds or not, are indeed out of this world. And its an ugly machine at that:D

Ugly?? No. surely not .....functional perhaps! Beauty is of course in the eye of the beholder and if you want ugly, I would suggest the Apache or any Russian chopper wins hands down. I am a little biased in that I was brought up in a part of Scotland where RAF SAR Sea Kings, S-61N choppers (and for a short but happy time the BA Chinooks) were as common as, well, forum complaints about Corgi prices but I think the Sea King has, ahem, character.:rolleyes:

Got to say that as Mrs Red 2 does question the number of Sea Kings sitting on the shelves but the Pooch does make a good SK! Now, all we need is the Merlin....:D

Welcome to the Forum's happy land of diverse opinions - would be boring if we all liked the same stuff!

[rmorley]

I am afraid that I quite like the Sea Kings. I think that the RN and Commonwealth Realm AF/N schemes suit the type very well. Perhaps we shall see a bog standard 1995-2000 RN Sea King, along with RCN and RAN models.

You never know, we may even see a Falklands SAR Sea King...

[ETOPS]

Guys (and gals too...)
Let's put one thing straight: there is no such thing as a beautiful helicopter!
Functional? Definitely! Cut out for the job? Perfectly so! A Must for the die-cast collector and modeller? Yes, absolutely!! Ugly? But of course!

But then again, beauty is indeed in the eyes of the beholder, and for those who have been in close contact with these wonderful machines a religious experience at best, especially if it was an SAR action or after a quick life-saving ride to a hospital. I myself am particularly fond of the ugliest of them all, the Mil-24 Hind E gunship of Mujahedeen fame. Sure hope a brave modelling company would issue one to be put on display with beastie no.2 ,the ubiquitous Sea King.

And yes: Apaches are pretty darn ugly as well. Just like the Whirlwind, the Piasecki "Banana", the Bell 47 (MASH-chopper) and the Kamov (all of them...)
:LOL: I'd be the first to collect those all!!!

[Agent X20]

Let's put one thing straight: there is no such thing as a beautiful helicopter!

WTGOR.... Rubbish :LOL: .. Bell JetRanger or Hughes 500.... beautiful...

Thing is pooch aint got the testicles to do one..

You youngsters are all fired up on this modern carp..!!

[G-force]

Bell 222 is another beautiful 'craft.

[Agent X20]

and that Italian Job that Bob flies....:LOL:

[sniperUK]

This ,now flown by the RAF (and the hooligans from Hereford)

[sniperUK]

And the hooligans one.

[Agent X20]

Scuse.. I was here first and mine are iconic.....:LOL:

[sniperUK]

Its OK Agent the blue one doen't exist:rolleyes:and its the same as Bobs.

[G-force]

So, does Bob exist? Does he fly imaginary helicopters?:confused:

[Agent X20]

Blue Thunder exists cos I saw it on the tele...:LOL:

Naw.. Hughes 500 the film 'Birds of Prey....' David Janssen.... excellent chopper scenes.. shame he died so young...

[Red 2]

Hmmm, I grant you the ltalians (and sometimes the French:eek: , see Gazelle) seem able to combine function with flowing lines (still talking about helicopters!) but for sheer character and crowd stopping appeal, a Chinook, SK or even Merlin powering low is hard to beat. A Herc has the sme strange effect....still however think the Apache is pig ugly but give me a good 1/72 in AAC colours and it will be on the shelf!!:D

[G-force]

I think the Merlin the RAF have is gorgeous. Sniper took a good shot over here last year of one.

[Agent X20]

Naw.. you youngsters.. a Merlin is whats in the front end of a Spitfire etc etc... if it was that good they would have given it its own name..:p :p :p

A Bell Jet Ranger is a helicopter.... so is a Hughes 500...:LOL: :LOL:

[sniperUK]

One of these ones G

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/sniperUK/IMG_0330.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/sniperUK/IMG_0296.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/sniperUK/IMG_1407.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/sniperUK/IMG_1404.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/sniperUK/IMG_1426.jpg

By the way Agent the naval version of the Merlin was originally to be called the Griffin paying tribute to the engines now we have the Bell 412 called the Griffin.

[G-force]

As always Sniper, great shots. The day before you took those, she came in behind my house at extremely low level and I got a great look at her. It's one of the most impressive machines in the air.
Was in the backgarden last week taking shots for work and a Gazelle came in really close, flew on, and came back round, to see what I was at. He then proceeded to hover and came in very close, close enough even for me to see the pilots face. Would have loved a shot but the camera was fixed in the tripod at the time and I was pressed for time. Nearly blew the light box away.
Thank god it wasn't something bigger than a Gazelle, with the amount of downdraft.

[sniperUK]

It operated out of Bellarena for the show and the guys there got a good look around it.Have you tried the gliding up there ,I went up a couple of times and the views over Magilligan are fantastic.

[G-force]

Surprised it operated out of Bellarena. Would like to go gliding sometime, just one of those things on the "when I get round to it" list. Been very close to them on many occasions, on Benevenagh, when I was up hiking. I was in the paper years ago because one "crashed" beside me while I was having lunch, dangling my feet over the cliffs. Beautiful view, I'm up there quite often.

[Red 2]

Great pics Sniper :D and I rest my case re the Merlin being a crowd stopper. Not beautiful as in a Spit (or as soul stirring as a RR Merlin!!;) )but I think EHI could have made her a heck of a lot worse! Now, if someone could just produce one.......:) :)

[Red 2]

Naw.. you youngsters.. a Merlin is whats in the front end of a Spitfire etc etc... if it was that good they would have given it its own name..:p :p :p


It is a while since somebody implied I was a youngster!!!:

Almost feeling happy for a Monday morning!:D :D :D

Can see a new thread on best sounding engines, sorry pistons only;)

[sledge]

Last year I joined the RFA, my first ship being the Fort george, a huge lump of a vessel, just as well really as it gave me my first contact with the Merlin when we deployed 3 of them on board.

The hanger on board the George is huge, normally we could do 5 Lynx with room to spare but 3 Merlins just filled up the place. I also got my first flight in one when we carried out a medical evacuation and I will say it is definately the cab of choice, fast and roomy, hell of a down draft though.

cheers

Sledge

[G-force]

So, this canary Sea-King, is it actually a good model? Does it have (m)any faults?

[sniperUK]

Great model G matches the real thing well.I will post a few pics over the next few days along with a few of the real thing .Its not the latest standard as it hasn't got the new filters or the FLIR but it is a nice model.

[sniperUK]

The real thing

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/sniperUK/kin1202.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/sniperUK/kin1199.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/sniperUK/kin1209.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/sniperUK/kin1197.jpg

[G-force]

So, could someone viably commission a new model, if modifications were manufactured, such as the filters?

[sniperUK]

The filters are already available on the Australian one and they could make it a 22sqn one instead of a 202.As seen here at your local airshow a few years ago G

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/sniperUK/sk15.jpg

[G-force]

When they produced two Blue Angel Phantoms, makes you wonder why another one of these fantastic beasts isn't produced. Probably one of the only models that would be a complete pre-order sell-out. Nice shots as always.

[sniperUK]

Yes I think a 22sqn one would sell ,I would also like a Falklands Islands grey one ,same markings only on a grey fuselage.

[G-force]

Still alot of life left in the mould then?

[sniperUK]

I could think of a few more such as the Royal Navy AEW ,low viz US Navy,plus Junglies etc.The Tiger Meet is a good start.

[Agent X20]

Sorry chaps Yellow Seaking did its time in the bins...:wacko:

[G-force]

How low did it go?

[Agent X20]

You could get em for around £20, okay it wasnt carp tenner stuff such as the Presidential Stobart one.. but £15-20.... Theres not a lot which hasnt 'served time'

[kevjb64]

You could get em for around £20, okay it wasnt carp tenner stuff such as the Presidential Stobart one.. but £15-20.... Theres not a lot which hasnt 'served time'

CHC Tuck Spit , Aussie Mossie , F/M FW190 , Easter Egg Lanc . These are the only 4 out for longer than say 6-12 months which I personally do not remember seeing cheap . Anyone else got any others ?

[Red 2]

I missed out on the SAR SK when it was going a little cheaper (didn't see it locally in the bins and was in a dilemma over the silly looking pilot etc.) and they seemed to be everywhere but by the time I overcame this concern, had to fork out full whack at a retailer for the last one I could track down :( .....joke is, it is my joint favourite model so more the fool me:o :o

I would pre-order :eek: an updated 22 Sqn SAR SK (nice pics, Sniper) and an AEW. Not sure the Falklands scheme would sell as well although I would take one in the bins...may not be financially logical but I do have a medical and untreatable addiction to Sea Kings!!!

[condor]

The RAF rescue Seaking was the 1st helicoptor I bought/ordered. I live not too far from RAF Boulmer, were I believe 202 Sqdn flies from, and so when Corgi produced a yellow Seaking it was a must for me. http://www.neaa.co.uk/seaking.html




Condor

[Agent X20]

CHC Tuck Spit , Aussie Mossie , F/M FW190 , Easter Egg Lanc . These are the only 4 out for longer than say 6-12 months which I personally do not remember seeing cheap . Anyone else got any others ?

The commissions you wont find in the bins as they are all preowned assets...

Easter Egg Lanc - there were one or two offered cheaper, however it was only 300..

You could also say the same about the modelzone and recent club numbers.....

Whats not hit the bins.. Black Spit/2nd Fw/very few D-Day Spits..

As for the new stuff... no great interest anymore.. wouldnt know one Meteor from another.. too many... :( hobby devalued..

[Seafire47]

Sorry chaps Yellow Seaking did its time in the bins...:wacko:

Well not in any of the bins that I saw! This was one I always intended to get when the price dropped, but everytime I saw one at an airshow / toyfair it was always at "new release" prices i.e. RRP - discount. I kept on waiting and then one day they were gone and before I knew it they were asking more than RRP:eek: .

I'd love to see them release another SAR Sea King - if only to hear the outcry from those that paid crazy money:p

[kevjb64]

The commissions you wont find in the bins as they are all preowned assets...


Whats not hit the bins.. Black Spit/2nd Fw/very few D-Day Spits..



Fair comment but was thinking also of stuff that has been cheaper than retail . On ebay all the commissions except CHC Tuck / F/M FW 190 and the current Langleys jet have traded more than once below retail price .

D-Day Spits were regularly available between £12-£15 for a short while , must still be an unfound stash of the 7100 run somewhere . :rolleyes:

[shuttle]

As for the new stuff... no great interest anymore.. wouldn't know one Meteor from another.. too many... hobby devalued

Agent X20,

It depends if you collect diecast for profit (to make more money)or enjoyment (because you like aircraft). I collect for enjoyment so like the fact that there are different versions of the same aircraft. It doesn't mean you have to collect them all and you can keep your collection based on themes etc. Corgi's policy of producing lots of models is great from the point of view of variation but I worry about the long term effect on the companies finances and quality of the models.

:) Shuttle

[kevjb64]

Agent X20,

Corgi's policy of producing lots of models is great from the point of view of variation but I worry about the long term effect on the companies finances and quality of the models.

:) Shuttle

And the sanity of several collectors/ forum members ( including mine ) .:)

[Agent X20]

For some people it is a collection rather than a liking for a particular aircraft.. irrespective of profit/investment etc.. this is where Corgi have missed out big time.. the countless haphazard releases onto the market place will do no good at all and if it continues in this vein will surely bring a cessation to either AA, their business or both.. that will be devaluation..

[DCRanger]

... if it continues in this vein will surely bring a cessation to either AA, their business or both.. that will be devaluation..
From an investor's point of view at least the cessation of production would be a good thing. (Not something I'm advocating). This would mean that there is a finite range and number of models, no new ones to dilute the market and so prices rise?

[kevjb64]

From an investor's point of view at least the cessation of production would be a good thing. (Not something I'm advocating). This would mean that there is a finite range and number of models, no new ones to dilute the market and so prices rise?

Maybe but not necessarily , the same outcome ( if it was to happen ) could be achieved by scrapping the P51 , Spitfire Mk.1-V , Hurricane , Mosquito , Liberator , B17 , Lancaster , Corsair , Harrier , Hunter , Tornado , Phantom , Lightning and Sea King moulds ( or doing any planned modifications now ) . I know the usual chorus will be , you cannot scrap that mould yet there are loads of schemes yet to do or I want such and such a scheme but we have to be adult about this and accept that the one predominate factor in Corgi's problems is the continual churning out of the same aircraft ( all other issues stem from this one ) . Sure there are plenty of different schemes I would like to see in several aircraft ranges but I would rather see general production continue than lose it all so that the whatever Uncle Herbert flew 1000th Corgi schemed P51D can be made .

Look at the last 2-3 catalogue's without the continual production of the likes of P51 ' s Liberators etc and see how much more compact / affordable ( though Corgi would also have to return to the 3-5 schemes in 30 months policy rather than the 5-7 in 18 average current policy for this to be totally true ) and exciting they would be . :)

[DCRanger]

Fair point but as long as Corgi reguritate not only the same casting but also the same schemes (Hedrick Corsair, Malan Spitfire etc) then this doesn't look likely to happen.

[Agent X20]

Theres so much metal out there it would take ages...:blink: :LOL: .. and it would go well down before it went back up again..

[Red 2]

I think the truth is that nobody is going to retire on the proceeds of any appreciation in value of models. Most of us collect because we like the subject matter, are happy if we get what seems to be a bargain and even happier if the value does go up!

I don't want to see any manufacturers disappear, certainly not Corgi,but we individually are willing to pay what we perceive the value of a model to be and therafter the market sorts out the winners and losers. A SAR Sea King is worth a lot more to me than a VC-10 but I know that to many the contrary would be true (nothing like stirring it up;) - can almost hear keyboards being thumped!!!) In the meantime, bring on a revised SAR SK, AEW, Merlin etc....my non-profit making collection needs you!:D :D

[sniperUK]

Well said Red,but one or more 1/144th RAF VC10s are definitely needed in my collection;)

[The Defiant Man]

Maybe but not necessarily , the same outcome ( if it was to happen ) could be achieved by scrapping the P51 , Spitfire Mk.1-V , Hurricane , Mosquito , Liberator , B17 , Lancaster , Corsair , Harrier , Hunter , Tornado , Phantom , Lightning and Sea King moulds ( or doing any planned modifications now ) . I know the usual chorus will be , you cannot scrap that mould yet there are loads of schemes yet to do or I want such and such a scheme but we have to be adult about this and accept that the one predominate factor in Corgi's problems is the continual churning out of the same aircraft ( all other issues stem from this one ) . Sure there are plenty of different schemes I would like to see in several aircraft ranges but I would rather see general production continue than lose it all so that the whatever Uncle Herbert flew 1000th Corgi schemed P51D can be made .

Look at the last 2-3 catalogue's without the continual production of the likes of P51 ' s Liberators etc and see how much more compact / affordable ( though Corgi would also have to return to the 3-5 schemes in 30 months policy rather than the 5-7 in 18 average current policy for this to be totally true ) and exciting they would be . :)

Excellent post Kev....totally agree.

[sniperUK]

The real deal last night the model tonight.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/sniperUK/ps1071.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/sniperUK/ps1077.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/sniperUK/ps1074.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/sniperUK/ps1072.jpg

[Red 2]

Great stuff Sniper, As I've said elsewhere, the SAR SK is drop dead gorgeous .....:D

[G-force]

Are there decals available for the SAR Sea King? Might try doing one myself, as it's probably the only way I'm gonna get one.

[sledge]

Theres a couple on ebay now, 40 quid plus!

Sledge

[sniperUK]

G decals are available in the Airfix kit (carp model though) Fujimi used to do a good one but I dont know if its still made.

[Albert Ross]

Naw.. you youngsters.. a Merlin is whats in the front end of a Spitfire etc etc...

Wasn't he in 'Sword in the Stone'?:wacko:

[rmorley]

Wasn't he in 'Sword in the Stone'?:wacko:

You're all wrong- it's a bird of prey! :sigh:

Isn't anyone a twitcher these days...

(Now, could we have a Dauphin? I'd buy an RN one! I would! I swearsies I would!)

RM

[Agent X20]

Talking of helicopters and birds.. and not wanting to create a new thread.. was in MZ today.. had a good look ovet the Pooch Blackhawk... well I cant say whether its the right shade of green or whether the angle of the dangle of the pitot tube is correct, but it did look a very neat little diecast... Albert will be on next claiming that one is his... <small though>

[Craig]

Yeah, I was expecting it being bigger than it is, but I agree it's very nice. Trouble is though not the most inspiring of prototypes. Will no doubt pick one up eventually because I do like it, but I'm not in any great rush at present. Worth having an example though I think, and "Double Vision" to me is exactly what a Blackhawk should look like. top marks :cool:

[Agent X20]

It didnt appear to have any nasty joint lines.. seemed to be well thought out.. but no doubt the connorsewers will rip it to shreds.. :)

[Red 2]

Not a Blackhawk expert but it does seem to look right.....Corgi are good at the choppers!:)
Not a favourite of mine but will probably go for an Aussie version when prices are more akin to what I want to pay for it...;)

[sniperUK]

Blackhawk is a very nice model let down by the painting ,and WHY have they painted the disco light RED .Still I am looking forwards to future releases like the Jayhawk and hopefully an MH 60.

[shuttle]

SniperUK,

I have just ordered the US release as the paint job seems better.

:) Shuttle

[sniperUK]

Take a couple of pics when it arrives Shuttle,my one may have to go on ebay or get a repaint.

[The Defiant Man]

Talking of helicopters and birds.. and not wanting to create a new thread.. was in MZ today.. had a good look ovet the Pooch Blackhawk... well I cant say whether its the right shade of green or whether the angle of the dangle of the pitot tube is correct, but it did look a very neat little diecast... Albert will be on next claiming that one is his... <small though>

Bum....was going to say exactly the same.....was in the Leeds Modelzone ("The Model Centre") this morning and thought it was a very nice model, though smaller than I expected......

Saw the Empire School Sea King up fclose for the first time also....very nice....but not £40 nice....

[Agent X20]

Bum....was going to say exactly the same.....was in the Leeds Modelzone ("The Model Centre") this morning and thought it was a very nice model, though smaller than I expected......

Saw the Empire School Sea King up fclose for the first time also....very nice....but not £40 nice.... Yep the Blackhawk doesnt seem to have incurred any of the hideous joint lines that the pooch can create on his masterpieces.. I really thought that the machine would be far far bigger... sorta somewhere between SeaKing and Chinook..

[sniperUK]

Think Wessex/Puma size for the Blackhawk agent its quite small,here are a couple of pics of my son in one it gives a good idea of the size.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/sniperUK/RIAT2004172.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/sniperUK/RIAT2004173.jpg

[tsr2]

SniperUK,

I have just ordered the US release as the paint job seems better.

:) Shuttle

Sniper, it is. The colour is spot on.

http://i3.tinypic.com/wrkj9x.jpg

[sniperUK]

That looks right,just the stupid red "disco light" to fix.

[Agent X20]

Think Wessex/Puma size for the Blackhawk agent its quite small,here are a couple of pics of my son in one it gives a good idea of the size.
Thats not fair.. lad might be a midget.. or conversely a jolly green giant... he does have that mini-agent look of really wanting to be somewhere else...:LOL: :LOL: Tis a nice bit of die cast.. wonder if its one of theirs or 'bought in'..

[sniperUK]

By the time the pics were taken we had been on the ferry to Scotland arriving at 2AM to find the coaches to take 70 plus to RIAT were in Fairford to bring us home:wacko: Ferry back to Belfast arriving at 8AM home for 8hrs then onto another trip. Overnight travel to Faiford arriving at 7AM the photo was taken mid afternoon and by that stage both of us needed a sleep which we didn't get until the coach home.Oh by the way he is 5'10".

[Agent X20]

Ah.. yep.. the tired teenager look.. know it well..!! That was a long day...

[Red 2]

By the time the pics were taken we had been on the ferry to Scotland arriving at 2AM to find the coaches to take 70 plus to RIAT were in Fairford to bring us home:wacko: Ferry back to Belfast arriving at 8AM home for 8hrs then onto another trip. Overnight travel to Faiford arriving at 7AM the photo was taken mid afternoon and by that stage both of us needed a sleep which we didn't get until the coach home.Oh by the way he is 5'10".

Now that is true dedication!! Mind you, ..still have a personal hatred for the crack:rolleyes: Italian test pilot who pranged the G222 on the runway one year and stopped the show after we had spent 12 hrs getting there....

[sniperUK]

This should be the next Sea King,goes with the chopper collection and the Arctic jets.I wish I had this guys skill.

http://www.modelingmadness.com/reviews/mod/marshallsking.htm

[G-force]

You'd be hard pushed to tell that was a model, excellent.

[Red 2]

This should be the next Sea King,goes with the chopper collection and the Arctic jets.I wish I had this guys skill.

http://www.modelingmadness.com/reviews/mod/marshallsking.htm

You really would be hard pushed to tell it was not the real thing...magnificent...wonder if Corgi are watching;)

[ETOPS]

Just got hold of a Sea King for 1 penny under 15 quid. Is that a lot or what? :D

(Corgi AA33408 HSS-2 Sea King, HS-3 SQN U.S. Navy, 1962 Limited edition of only 2.700 produced)

Initially designated HSS-2, this Sikorsky Sea King with BuAer nr.149699 /Buzz number 56, was one of the first to enter U.S. Navy service and joined HS-3 (Helicopter Squadron Three) in 1962 in an anti-submarine warfare training role.

Sometimes one can pick up a nice deal on eBay! Hope the yellow ones will hover down to real world prices soon too!!:D

[Red 2]

Hope the yellow ones will hover down to real world prices soon too!!:D

Etops, are you catching the Sea King bug? Glad to see it.

RAF SAR is a rare chopper hit for Corgi and seems destined to hold its value...unless Corgi churn out another 1500!:rolleyes:

[Craig]

Well to be honest I really can't understand Corgi not doing another SAR Sea King. There's plenty of Squadrons out there, I'm sure another yellow one from a different Squadron would still be an excellent seller! I missed the fist one, I certainly wouldn't miss a second!

[eismeer]

Well to be honest I really can't understand Corgi not doing another SAR Sea King. There's plenty of Squadrons out there, I'm sure another yellow one from a different Squadron would still be an excellent seller! I missed the fist one, I certainly wouldn't miss a second!

I would second that as i also never picked this one up but i bet it would sure pi$$ a few punters off who have paid the 80-100 squid for the current one :D

[Albert Ross]

I would second that as i also never picked this one up but i bet it would sure pi$$ a few punters off who have paid the 80-100 squid for the current one :D

...oh dear!:rolleyes:

[The Defiant Man]

...oh dear!:rolleyes:
Oh gawd...I hope not.....as if Corgi aren't bad enough at devaluing their recent models by de-certing, please don't say they are going to de-value (one of) the few that has actually become collectable. If they've run out of original schemes worth doing then chuck away the mould......

...and no, I haven't got the SAR.

[Agent X20]

More rape... although the latter models .. Desert 8 and White Focke appear to be poor copies of the original..

[The Defiant Man]

More rape... although the latter models .. Desert 8 and White Focke appear to be poor copies of the original..
Desert 8 yes.....looking at CBFC's pics of the FW on the other thread they actually seem to have have made a bit of effort to re-create the look of temporary white. Whether it is actually pleasing on the eye is another matter (want to see one before deciding at what price to buy).

[Agent X20]

Its impotent though.. they seem to have forgotten the inboard guns..:D But credit where credit due.. it is different....:wacko: :blink: :wacko:

[Red 2]

AEW SK would be a must in my collection:cool: but, even as a confirmed SK fan, we must be at Sea King saturation point now....

[The Defiant Man]

The Culdrose SK is currently in a trough....were going for up to £60......yesterday a £50 start on ebay didn't attract a bid and another went for £38.....

[eismeer]

I really like the Culdrose one and second only to the SAR one. At 38 squid i could be tempted :cool:

[father ted]

Just picked up a Culdrose SK for 37 quid on the bay......quite reasonable for such a nice model.......shall not be paying over the odds for the canary bird though .....however nice they are.......the wife has got a mean right hook ;)