Me 109 Flying

[NeilD]

info over on Flypast ref a Buchon rebuilt with a DB engine, had its first flight this week.. looks excellent..

Neil.

http://forum.airforces.info/showthread.php?t=33002

[Martin Bull]

Ummmm...notice something odd about the tailplane ? ;) :rolleyes:

[plumstix]

Made by Dragon?

[CFBC]

WOW - Nice.... Swastika tooo!! :p Must be a Dragon!!

Come on Corgi!! :cool: Just waiting for Alberts reply....

[Typhoon-MKV]

Ah it's the PC rebuilt version of the ME-109.....

:mad: :mad:

[Red Leader]

Yes I noticed that too!! Come on guys put the Swastika on!!
1o9's minus swastikas is like Spits without roundals. How sad!!!!!!

[NeilD]

at least this beastie is properly dressed.. look forward to seeing it next season

http://www.realaero.com/index.htm

[Martin Bull]

Yes - the UK scene is desperately in need of some Axis aircraft....

[Typhoon-MKV]

at least this beastie is properly dressed.. look forward to seeing it next season

http://www.realaero.com/index.htm

So are they actually flying it? Or is it another Taxi job???

[CFBC]

As far as I know Stealth, it's actually a flyer mate, but not seen any reports about it flying, but ive read somewhere and desperately looking where I saw the info!!!! :(

[Typhoon-MKV]

WOO-HOO....


Oh yes I can see it now 109 and Spit tail-chase at Duxford - Marvellous.....

Now all we need is a FW-190 (que Mr Bull)......

[NeilD]

yep it's a flyer, or will be. they didnt quite get all the paperwork and odds n ends finished for this season..

[Typhoon-MKV]

Excellent must keep a very close eye on the Real Aeroplane web site during the off-season then.

[Red Leader]

Don't settle for seconf best chaps!! Don't forget that FW190 that recently had a test flight in Germany!! That'll be a terrfific partner in crime for the 109 next flying season. We could have some half decent doggy fights in our skies again! Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

[CFBC]

Oheeerrr. I feel a ticket for the Legends show already coming on.... How to warm ones heart-up.....:)

[minter]

Don't settle for seconf best chaps!! Don't forget that FW190 that recently had a test flight in Germany!! That'll be a terrfific partner in crime for the 109 next flying season. We could have some half decent doggy fights in our skies again! Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

p-51 vs Me 262

[Agent X20]

Soon have good line up.... save those poor 51's chasing the 108's of old..!!

The 262 and 190 are a must to go and see.....

[minter]

i have only heard of a two seater 262 flying at the moment, im sure there was some others in the pipeline, just hope they dont all stay over in America

[Agent X20]

Something like 4 singles and two two seats they were building...

sounds like fun... but a slight setback when the first two seater went off the end of the runway.. but I gather its back in the air now...

[CFBC]

whhohooo.. A 262 flying hey.... Now that would look good in the skies of the Uk.... :)

[Agent X20]

You are aware of this....??

Me 262 (http://www.stormbirds.com/project/index.html)

Go intyo 'Updates'

Sorta thing you would do if you won the lottery... :D

[minter]

what!! and completely bypass having it done as a diecast.....mind you real thing probably quicker to do :D

[Agent X20]

Its taken them quite a while to get to where they are today on the 'rebuilds'

[Typhoon-MKV]

Oh my it gets better and better.....

Trouble is our Friends across the pond flash a little cash and it's bye-bye to the UK airshow scene....

[Agent X20]

Would have thought if there were six or so, we would see one over here... :D

[Martin Bull]

FlugWerk 190 - Please !: :mad:

[Agent X20]

As in die cast, real thing or just some sexual position/perversion... :D :D :D

[Martin Bull]

1) Already got
2 ) Hoping for
3)............... :eek:

[Agent X20]

Would be nice to see on the Warbird circuit.... and I would have thought a darn site safer to fly than the Me.... (109)

[minter]

Would be nice to see on the Warbird circuit.... and I would have thought a darn site safer to fly than the Me.... (109)

i never saw black 6 fly to my regret,i was off the airshow scene whilst bringing up the kids etc.. but i'll be there if the 190 or 262 come along no question!

[NeilD]

Martin, I presume you saw the article in Flypast ref Glen Lacey and what he is restoring.... on his list is an Me109E and a 190 'dora'... but interestingly he's also doing work on a UK owned 190 'A'... roll on Legends 2008 ! :D

[Martin Bull]

I know, I know.....trouble is, one reads those little snippets in FlyPast about 190s, 109s, Sabre-engined Tempests or whatever...next thing you know, they're crated up and shipped to the Good Ole US of A and a lucky new owner who inherited 10,000 oilwells..... :mad:

Sorry - just me being twitter and bisted ! :rolleyes:

[NeilD]

recently most stuff seems to have disappeared to New Zealand!! I never did see the La 9 fly... :(

[snafu]

I'm pleased I managed to see it flying. It was superb, a real surprise to me. Probably expected it be very utilitarian with it being Russian WWII.

[raff]

Well, I know it's galling to see these aircraft being shipped off to other parts [both the US or NZ] but the consolation is that at least they are still flying somewhere.The airworthy Hurricane population for one is about four times what it was 30 years ago. If it wasn't for the likes of Kermit Weeks I wonder what the preservation scene would consist of.
We simply don't have that kind of dosh over here, which makes the efforts of people like Carolyne Grace and the Sally B people [and everyone else in the UK scene] even more remarkable and IMHO deserving of every penny of public support they can get. Another factor would appear to be the more flexible approach of the FAA to certification .... which is why Air Atlantic's Shackleton can fly in the States but not over here.
As for our state sector, I wouldn't be at all suprised if that nice Mr. Gordon Brown hasn't already looked at the BBMF and wondered if it wouldn't make for a nice cost cutting excercise!
raff

[Typhoon-MKV]

Well, I know it's galling to see these aircraft being shipped off to other parts [both the US or NZ] but the consolation is that at least they are still flying somewhere.The airworthy Hurricane population for one is about four times what it was 30 years ago. If it wasn't for the likes of Kermit Weeks I wonder what the preservation scene would consist of.
We simply don't have that kind of dosh over here, which makes the efforts of people like Carolyne Grace and the Sally B people [and everyone else in the UK scene] even more remarkable and IMHO deserving of every penny of public support they can get. Another factor would appear to be the more flexible approach of the FAA to certification .... which is why Air Atlantic's Shackleton can fly in the States but not over here.
As for our state sector, I wouldn't be at all suprised if that nice Mr. Gordon Brown hasn't already looked at the BBMF and wondered if it wouldn't make for a nice cost cutting excercise!
raff

Actually it has already been mentioned, and the day that happens is the day I become an Anarchist.......

[minter]

Actually it has already been mentioned, and the day that happens is the day I become an Anarchist.......

begers belief!lets find out where he lives and when parliament breaks up surround his house so he cant get to work ,like the fox hunter protesters did to some other MP

[NeilD]

Actually it has already been mentioned, and the day that happens is the day I become an Anarchist.......


better all get your subscriptions in to the Lincs Lanc Assoc. as their contribution to the BBMF is surely one factor that'll keep the central bean-counters off their back...

[Typhoon-MKV]

better all get your subscriptions in to the Lincs Lanc Assoc. as their contribution to the BBMF is surely one factor that'll keep the central bean-counters off their back...

And at eight squids it's a bargin.....

Especially when you get the show as we had for the members day. I shall be renewing my sub....

[Dogtwenty]

I'd rather die than see BBMF scrapped :mad: We've been at them to get rid of the Arrows - what a waste of money, they could have kept '558' going if it was not for those wasters :mad: :mad:

[The Defiant Man]

I'd rather die than see BBMF scrapped :mad: We've been at them to get rid of the Arrows - what a waste of money, they could have kept '558' going if it was not for those wasters :mad: :mad:
Agree with you Dogtwenty, seen the arrows a few times and it becomes tedious (I go round they stalls at airshows when they start).

I think that we're in the minority however, so put yer tin hat on!

[plumstix]

I'm with you too. There's only so much you can do with a formation of aircraft. What they do is amazing don't get me wrong, just seen it too many times.

[Martin Bull]

As we all know, 'Me109G' Red 7 was badly damaged in a landing accident earlier this year.

Take a look at the same aircraft displaying at La Ferte Alais last May......between 45/57 secs in, by Gosh does he nearly get it all wrong :eek: :eek:

http://p51d20na.club.fr/bf109g_lfa.wmv

[CFBC]

Oh my yes.... That was a little "close". No modern technology there to save his backside..... Scary..... :eek:

His taxi run at the end seems a little fast compared to the likes of the Spits and P51's, etc at Duxford and what I have seen over here at airshows.

[minter]

these 109s are tricky to land as everyone knows, black 6, mark hannah killed in a buchon, and the 109E in america had a very close escape this year i believe...seems only a matter of time before they become a cropper

[Agent X20]

Good clip that Mr Bull.. reckon if he had been 50 feet lower.. oops...

Mark Hanna wasnt landing.. he just seemed to slideslip in to the ground. :(

[no4mkit]

Thanks for that clip MB. Man, was I holding my breath watching that recovery!! :eek: Looked like the beginnings of an inverted flat spin.... (insert 'huge sigh of relief' smilie) What a beautiful Gustav - hopes she's repaired to fly again.

[SSRST]

It would be excellent to see some german warbirds in our skies and I will definately be there with my camera skyward!

The red arrows are the ambassadors of the RAF. Granted, once seen a few times they become a little tedious and lacking in new 'showstopping' maneuvers, but they are what instill the dream of flying in the young people. This is wat airshows are all about.

[Leviathan]

Thanks for that clip MB. Man, was I holding my breath watching that recovery!! :eek: Looked like the beginnings of an inverted flat spin.... (insert 'huge sigh of relief' smilie) What a beautiful Gustav - hopes she's repaired to fly again.

You are spot on!

That was VERY close indeed. I'll bet the crowd were expecting the worst as it disappeared below the tree line. The 109 is regarded as a "Bitch" to fly, but Charley Brown didn't appear to struggle with Black6. I think the pilot just got it wrong. It would have looked just as bad in a Spitfire or a Mustang!

Great clip MB


Regards



Leviathan

[neighbob]

Hope the pilot had some spare underwear with him.Suprised he wasn't told to land after that close shave.

[no4mkit]

Charley Brown didn't appear to struggle with Black6. I think the pilot just got it wrong...

..It would have looked just as bad in a Spitfire or a Mustang!



Good points Lev. He looked like he was struggling coming over the top of that loop and was a little low on energy, making it a risky manouver in any machine. Just very glad he saved it.