XP Service Pack 2, Virus Warnings & Scams!! [Archive] - The Diecast Aviation Web Site and Forum

Agent X20

14th October 2004, 19:13

NeilD

14th October 2004, 20:01

my 'automatic update' hasn't automatically updated me yet...

Martin Bull

14th October 2004, 20:09

Hmmm...well, my 'on/off' button seems to work just the same.... :o :p

diecaster

14th October 2004, 20:32

Anyone having fun with this.....?????

Installed.. okay.. ace Computer runs faster..... :D

but hey.. wheres me Camera software gone...? :(
IL2 Forgotten Battles... dont wanna fire up....? :(

...mmm....

me or is it everybody..... ??

Ignore it like you would the plague !!! downloaded it and got total grief, had to perform a full hard disk re-format with product support from some people in India. PC still only 6 weeks old so not much lost thank goodness

Happiliy running on 1.3 and dertmined to stay that way.

Perhaps I was Just unlucky ...

diecaster

14th October 2004, 20:34

Anyone having fun with this.....?????

Installed.. okay.. ace Computer runs faster..... :D

but hey.. wheres me Camera software gone...? :(
IL2 Forgotten Battles... dont wanna fire up....? :(

...mmm....

me or is it everybody..... ??

You won't catch me going anywhere near it again, after download I had an .exe problem that I nver had before hand.

Ended up doing a full hard disk format with support from India, 7 pages of instructions ,thought about applying for a job in our IT after that.

I'll be sticking version 1.3 for now.

CFBC

14th October 2004, 20:39

Laptop was running XP Home and downloaded it ok.... Acquired an XP Pro with SP2 on for one of my W98 PC's and it's fcucked it up.... Down to one PC (w98)and a laptop... My other pC has had a format, but still XP refuses to go on!!!!

ARGHHHHHHH

Bring back W98!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Martin Bull

14th October 2004, 20:43

Er, can you blokes speak more slowly, please.... :confused: :o :eek:

Agent X20

14th October 2004, 21:03

Being quite serious Mr Bull..

There is a Service Pack for Winders XP... its quite big so if yer have Broadband, it takes a good 20 mins or so to download it.. if yer aint got Broadband then if yer buy a PC mag this month its on (well might be)one of the freebie disks... dial up .. youll be online to Xmas..

Its quite a revamp what it does do is stop a lot of the pop ups and 'resets the security level on yer PC to something much higher than it was before...

Its seems to be okay on my machine, but there again I do update mine as soon as a new update comes along.. I THINK where peeps are having REAL problems is where they havent updated their compooters and are now trying to shove on this upgrade...

Anyway two hours later tonite and I have FINALLY uninstalled IL2 (flight sim and reinstalled... just got to download the upgrades I dont know why it wouldnt work but it SEEMS to now..

However my Fuji 602 Finepix camera software (XP) has just disappeared...

But my machine is running faster..... hey ho....

Lets try CFS 3........(another flight sim....!!)

PS all my software is genuine... which MAY be why others are being caught out..? (you might not be aware that your software aint genuine..)

Mr Orange

15th October 2004, 00:08

Guys,

You can get and order a CD from Microsoft F.O.C via the Microsoft website which they will send you with SP2 on.

:)

CFBC

15th October 2004, 00:11

Agent.... All my PC was kept uptoo date, but it was W98 and not XP before and fink that was my problem...... My BIOS and M/B drivers probably need updating, but ive just not had time.....

Luckily I have two otehr PC's to play with and now Mrs CFBC PC also to link on to my network and wreck too!!! Yeah..... :)

spock1

15th October 2004, 00:34

:D Many a good tune, played on an old fiddle!!! ;)

PS.- Let someone else suffer the hiccups with the new technology, ie. jump in when the bugs are eliminated and alls sorted........ :cool:

BSteinIPMS

15th October 2004, 01:14

I installed the XP SP2 yesterday with no problems, other than spending an inordinate amount of time switching back and forth from the MS Web site to Sony's (I have a Sony VAIO laptop) to figure out what I should install first.

I think the key is to update Windows and your computer manufacturer's software before you download SP2. (Took me 3.2 hours on a dial-up connection at 52000 bps)

The install was easy, and my machine is a bit faster. Lost no software, so I was just lucky, I guess.

Still don't know why I did it: SP2 is a security-oriented thing, and my McAfee VirusScan seems to do just fine.... :confused:

Typhoon-MKV

15th October 2004, 06:08

Yeah I have had no issues, loaded both at home on my PC and also on my PC at Work, although not tried it on Mrs Stealths Laptop yet.

Thing to remember is if you have third Party Security and Virus checking go to the Security centre in the Control Panel and disable the Microsoft security bits and pieces.

They have enhanced the security quite a bit with SP2 so things that ran before may not run now. I now get annoying blocking messages in IE as it's stopping activeX and javascript from running. It also stops PDF from opening as well.

There is also pop-up blocking enabled as well.

Not yet had time to tread through all the settings and check them out.

Martin Bull

15th October 2004, 07:30

Being serious.....you must be joking ! :p

Actually, I downloaded SP2 via Broadband a couple of weeks ago. As you say, it took 20 minutes but since then - no problems at all ( fingers crossed ).

But then, I have no games loaded.......

Agent X20

15th October 2004, 22:52

Wot no games..... Its all okay now but for a while I thought we were doomed.... me submarine tracking system was all askew and there were pictures of a 1/32 Mossie showing up at last .. so I knew all was not right.. :D

The Defiant Man

24th October 2004, 16:49

I also use my home computer for work. Our IT department stated that we should not, under any circumstances, download service pack 2 as it is known to have some problems and restricts certain programs.

davidwford

27th October 2004, 00:20

Yep, no problems with XP SP2 here either. IL2 Forgotten Battles works fine also.

planejunky

12th January 2005, 23:24

I feel sure this has been bought up before on the forum, but I keep getting the prompt from my updater to install XP SP2. I've heard mixed reports ranging from "don't do it, it'll screw your system, flight sims etc", to "go for it, I had no problems".

Anyone had any problems with the update?

CFBC

12th January 2005, 23:39

P/J.... I run it on both my laptop and also my 1st PC.... 2nd PC still running W98.... My XP c/w SP2 runs smoothly, but I use Norton Antivirus and Sygate Firewall.. Not Microsofts.....

As for games... F/S 2004 and IL2.... Ive had no problems.....

What I did thugh was to go on the M/S website and order it via CD for free and it was far easier than downloading it.... Just in case of any errors.....

Hope that helps. Good luck.... I have also heard of nightmares too, but not encountered any problems as yet....
:)

NeilD

12th January 2005, 23:58

only problem I've had is that my plug-in card-reader doesnt work since I updated to SP2.. and there aren't any drivers showing for it on the mfgs website.. other than that its been OK.. The 'pop-ups' killer is excellent!
Neil.

CFBC

13th January 2005, 00:01

Whats yer cardreader Neild?

:)

DCRanger

13th January 2005, 00:13

I installed SP2 without any problems using the free disk from MS. This disk is also available on quite a few PC mags.

If you do have any problems after installation try here for help.

www.pcadvisor.co.uk

It's one that has got me out of trouble a few times and part of their forum is dedicated to SP2 probs. You will need to register with them before being able to get help.

NeilD

13th January 2005, 00:18

Whats yer cardreader Neild?

:)

A little blue Jessops one.. their website gives drivers for ME/98 but not for XP as the gizmo does it itself..
Neil.

CFBC

13th January 2005, 01:21

Typhoon-MKV

13th January 2005, 08:11

Well I have it running on the PC and Laptop at home, and we have been slowly upgrading the PC's at Work.

No problems to report apart from the annoying blocker you have on IE now.

My suggestion is if you are running a third party Software Firewall and Virus Checker just go into Control Panel and then Security Centre and turn off Firewall and Virus Checker, so that you then use the version you have installed.....

Oh and on another note Microsft have bought out a Spyware company and are currently producing their own version (http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx), again been testing on my PC at work seems pretty stable and does detect any nasties on the box, only concern being I then ran Adaware SE and it found 10 cookie trackers that the MS product did not, so if you are using Adaware SE stick with that for the moment.

This community message brought to you by the Diecast Aviation Forum :D :D :D

Agent X20

13th January 2005, 09:10

P/J...........Real poo.... yep I put up the original thread..

Installed... Most games ( Flight Sims) disappeared, the shortcuts to Office needed 'reinstalling'... and the default locations needed reinputting.

BUT....

It now loads up faster...( even with all back to square one again)

The pop up preventer I feel is a better way of doing things......

(As in all PC's its now nearly 2 years old so its due for a change and am sure that it could be tidied up a little)

(2.66/512/64/HD80/HomeXP)

G-force

13th January 2005, 11:43

Have had no problems but I was reading on a computer forum that the updates do need to be installed along the way before you install SP2. The pop-up blocker is a bit annoying but brilliant. System seems to be tidied up. I am running Norton Antivirus and not Microsoft firewall, which I'm told is the better way to do it.
Try the anoraks on the computer forums first if you have any doubts.

planejunky

13th January 2005, 11:57

Thanks guys. Is the popup killer optional, in other words you do have control over wether or not it's turned on? The reason I ask is that some sites use legitimate popups for ordering etc.

Has anyone else had the same issues a Agent regarding flightsim programs? I have a huge FS2004 setup now and would be really pi$$ed off if I lost it all!

shuttle

13th January 2005, 12:28

I am an IT manager and we have rolled out SP2 on over 80 laptops running XP so far. No problems but we only run 'office' type applications. I have it on a couple of my own PC's and have found no problems either. I run CFS3 and various other games. The biggest problems I get with them is graphic drivers and Directx!

You can switch off the pop-up blocker in Internet Explorer. I use the Yahoo toolbar myself which has a nice blocker included. The SP2 firewall is a big step forward from the previous one but is still not as powerful as the Norton product.

I would recommend SP2 on the basis that it does increase the security of the PC (if you leave all the features switched on). However, I would make sure that you have as much of your data backed up as possible before you install (but we all do routine backups anyway!).

:) Shuttle

planejunky

13th January 2005, 16:30

Thanks shuttle, I've done the deed downloaded SP2 and installed it. There doesn't seem to be any problems so far, and it shouldn't effect programs like Dreamweaver anyway. FS2004 is untouched and everything is as it should be, I've yet to try Il-2, but again there should be no issues, (I hope!).

NeilD

13th January 2005, 18:47

Neild.. Try here..

http://www.integralmemory.com/download.aspx

or here....

http://www.datafabusa.com/usbdrivers.htm

Problem is... Jessops is the brand name of the high street... Any internal names yer can see? Simgle card reader or a multi????

looks like an SCM Microsystems chip onside so i've banged-off an e-mail to them as nothign much listed on their website/google..
Neil.

planejunky

14th January 2005, 22:30

OK I may have found one small problem. I tried to attach images to this site earlier and got a page error, I also tried to send a read receipt to a PM and got the same problem. The only thing that has changed in the last day or so is the installation of SP2 on this machine. The odd thing is that I also installed SP2 on Snapper's machine and it doesn't have the same problem uploading images etc, very strange! :confused: Any ideas?

shuttle

15th January 2005, 11:32

Try switching off the firewall (as a test) then perform the operations again. If it works then you need to look at allowing traffic to and from that site with the firewall active.

:) Shuttle

planejunky

15th January 2005, 12:29

Try switching off the firewall (as a test) then perform the operations again. If it works then you need to look at allowing traffic to and from that site with the firewall active.

:) Shuttle

Tried that, and still had no joy. :(

CFBC

15th January 2005, 12:30

Ok, Try switching off the 'addblocker' in-built in SP2....

Stealth, help himout boyo..... I forgot to PM u back last night, sorry PJ.... To ask yer.... ;)

Typhoon-MKV

15th January 2005, 12:38

Oh yeah - try turning off the popup-blocker in the security settings, just wondered whether it was that.

Tools -> Options -> Security -> Custom Level on Internet -> Then about 2/3 way down there is "Use Pop-Up Blocker" - Disable this.

See whther that works.....

:)

CFBC

15th January 2005, 13:05

Thanks Stealth... :) I know, you would know where!! ;)

planejunky

15th January 2005, 13:53

Bingo! Sorted! Hurrah! :D

I already have a popup blocker, and it looks like it was in conflict with the new blocker on SP2. I've disabled the windows version and kept my usual pop swatter. I had to disable and enable it again to get the buttons to work without errors.

Thanks for your help guys it's much appreciated! ;)

goonybird

4th March 2005, 21:40

Don't know if anyone can help.
since two night ago I can't view items on ebay. I get as far as the list of particular items showing, eg 'corgi aviation', but if I click on a particular item to view, the green bar goes across and stops with a data rate of zero.
I have tried the following. replaced adsl modem, leads, filters, reinstallation,
used upstairs phone socket with RJ45 extension.
Finally installing a adsl modem on the old comp upstairs enabled me to access without problems. So conclusion is computer/software related. Realise will probably need to reinstall xp again! :mad:
But why if I go onto US ebay can I view exactly the same items without a problem??? Have even cleared cookies/pages etc and reset web settings to default. Am convinced this is the problem, but can't find it! Any other web sites are accessing normally.
Damn well missed a very rare aviation book wednesday due to not being able to bid. So mad I was!! :mad: :mad:
So before I Fdisk/Reformat & install xp again, any help would be very much appreciated.

NB I promise hand on heart never to slag off s*itfires ever again ;)

CFBC

4th March 2005, 21:46

G/B.. Are you using Internet Explorer?

Have u downloaded any sercurity patches?

plumstix

4th March 2005, 21:46

I wouldn't go as far as wiping the whole PC if it is only one site you can't access, GB. It must be something in IE somewhere.

CFBC

4th March 2005, 21:49

Yeah - I had a similar problem when I downloaded a patch update a while ago - Just trying to remember what I did.....

goonybird

4th March 2005, 21:53

Thanks I think I've figured it's probably IE. Tried latest IE patch and made no difference. :)

plumstix

4th March 2005, 21:53

Goony, do you have a firewall running? If so turn it off and try the site again, there may be something in there blocking it.

goonybird

4th March 2005, 21:55

Tried that. Shut down anything and everything running to check if anythings interfering. I think windows has thrown a wobbly :confused:
even tried new virus/firewall software. was macafee now zonealarm and avg. But these were installed after problem in an attempt to resolve it.
And have adaware/ spyware removers/ popup blockers etc. nothing on hard drive virus/dialler wise, and still no difference enabled/disabled.
Believe me I've tried pretty damn everything in my 17+ years of PC's :confused:

CFBC

4th March 2005, 22:31

Have u tried lowering the security and privicy settings in I.E? I don't suggest leaving emlow, but to try....

:)

shuttle

4th March 2005, 23:02

Re-install SP2?

:confused: Shuttle

Agent X20

5th March 2005, 10:54

How about a system restore... ( back to before all the trouble..?)

CFBC

5th March 2005, 12:21

Gotta be an IE/security patch issue G/B... It's just finding excatly what... Don't reinstall SP2 or XP :)

shuttle

5th March 2005, 12:51

CFBC, reinstalling SP2 causes no harm but it could fix a corrupt or faulty driver etc.

:) Shuttle

Agent X20

5th March 2005, 13:51

Reinstalling XP does... thats a good days/weeks work.... :D

goonybird

5th March 2005, 21:41

Just repaired windows XP which usually leaves a functioning system till time for a full restoration. This usually replace most files. Made Bu**er all difference. OH well sunday tomorrow. Fdisk, Format etc. time.
Thanks for the suggestions guys, just thought something I hadn't already thought of might come out of it. Somes up what this is all about-apart from planes that is. :o

I actually have a gut feeling it's the hard drive 30GB maxtor. Apparently maxtor have been a bit unreliable these days. Reinstalled last time as some lost clusters.
Please Bill, bring back Ms-Dos!!!! and bulletin boards. this internets gonna be the death of me. :)

goonybird

5th March 2005, 23:39

Just finished fdisk/format and clean install of windows xp.
guess what? yep still does the same thing. Now I am Confooozed? This is veritably doing my head in. Only other option is a usb or other hardware fault, but my experience would indicate not, as problem only affects ebay Uk site.
Have ebay done anything in the last few days? :confused: :confused:

CFBC

6th March 2005, 07:59

Could have told yer - Oh wait I did, that it ain't an XP thing..... ;)

It's an IE thing...... Just finding what though... :D

CFBC

6th March 2005, 08:00

goonybird

6th March 2005, 08:03

Thank CF but if its IE how come was working fine till tuesday night. And thats form a clean install 3 weeks ago. I can't undertand why a clean install hasn't cleared this?

CFBC

6th March 2005, 08:08

Oh right.. Now you tell us... :D (joke).

It's very had trying to find the problem of a PC when 200 miles away.... :D

Have you gine into the individual securty settngs G/B and had a look? How about updating Directx or the Java although this should be updated anyway. Also or perhaps "script"?

Bit of a puzzle this one... :rolleyes:

plumstix

6th March 2005, 10:10

We did try and tell you, but would you listen?? No!!! :D

goonybird

6th March 2005, 19:33

Think I've done it! After swapping hard drives and fdisk/formatting and windows xp installing again...still wouldn't work! :mad: So, were down to computer hardware. Dismantle and rebuild system. No effing difference. Even with a barebones system. Thought ..IT's got to be Ebay uk?
Thought what did I change recently in preferences. Only thing possible was favorite sellers. Added two just over a week ago. mmmmm.
remove favorite sellers and voila! :) working system. PI$$ED off I am now. :mad: Fortunately back everything up son/father/grandfather. They taught us well at college ;)
Just to test redid favorite seller and it slowed some access down to a crawl.
Reason I figured it worked upstairs is thats on win98se so different IE explorer and interactions.
One to add to the book! Now for a stiff drink of newky.
Thank you to everyone who contributed :)

plumstix

6th March 2005, 19:35

BSteinIPMS

7th March 2005, 04:21

One to add to the book! Now for a stiff drink of newky.
Thank you to everyone who contributed :)

Here you go, G/B; I'll contribute the Newky. :D

Agent X20

14th May 2005, 19:59

Received a message today.. You have a message from a family member....

Presume this family postcard that professess to be from said 'family member' is a virus...

CFBC

14th May 2005, 20:02

Message "as in" a PM, Messenger message, Yahoo Messenger or e-mail Agent?

I would guess the last and I would think you know not to open it... :D

Ive had e-mails from Abbey National, Barclays and the Halifax about my a/c's, but I know they are bogus.... I don't bank at them!!!! Even if it was from my bank, I would ignore it anyway.... :)

Agent X20

14th May 2005, 20:43

Sorry just an ordinary email... but cos its worded that its a message from your family*, it kinda takes you in.. so you are invited to open it up and of course its an exe...!!! So nearly scuppered meself there.. and part as a warning to others.. :D

CFBC

14th May 2005, 20:44

Oh yeah, those ones... Watch em. The buggers...

Also the blank e-mails too. They have a nice heading, you open them and they are blank....!! :confused:

But are they?

Nope. Be warned. :D

Agent X20

14th May 2005, 20:47

Just that I hadnt seen that one before.....

CFBC

15th May 2005, 10:40

Also watch out for the bogus "Microsoft" update e-mail witha link.... Click on it and kiss yer m/c goodbye.....

Microsoft don't send out updates via e-mail guys...... XP can auto-download and update, uinstall if you wish....

Again, be careful.... Hijack ain't the word.....

snafu

16th May 2005, 14:27

Don't know if any of you guys can help. My home pc has an adware on it 'SearchAroundThe Corner.com'. It looks like a search engine and is blocking attempts to access anything else on the net. This is frustarting to say the least. It has a message 'remove adware' but when you click this it takes you into some porn site. Any ideas of how to remove? Tried the various suggestions from AOL but to no avail :mad: :mad:

Agent X20

16th May 2005, 14:36

Is it listed in yer Add/Remove programs section..?? I found a whole load of crap on there the other day especially after mini agent had loaded the i-tunes suite which brought my compooter to a stop.

DCRanger

16th May 2005, 14:46

You could try downloading the latest spyware removal tool from Microsoft. I used it to get rid of of spyware that I was aware of but couldn't, even when using AdAware on a regular basis. The Microsoft programme got rid of it along with some other stuff that I didn't know was there.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=321CD7A2-6A57-4C57-A8BD-DBF62EDA9671&displaylang=en

I think a lot of these problems are caused by mini's downloading stuff from music sites. Thank goodness my last mini is due to go to Uni soon.

CFBC

16th May 2005, 14:51

Ad-Aware is a good download and also not too big to download. Snafu, you have broadband right? Drop me a PM with your e-mail address and I will e-mail you the exe in a zip file. Won't take long....

Also check if it has a "removalble" like Agent has suggested, I doubt it though, but worth a try.... So, opened any naughty e-mails lately? :D

Also try here. Web User had a test on all the Spyware removals this fortnight and this also came out tops...

http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10122137.html?part=104443&subj=dlpage&tag=button

Agent X20

16th May 2005, 14:59

Fun these minis... you never know what state yer equipment going to be in after they have played with it... :rolleyes: Think its going to be have yer own compooter time soon.. they are cheap enough.. trouble is cant really monitor and she will be on it all night.. have to get one anyway as she has now discovered msn..!! decisions decisions...!! :D

DCRanger

16th May 2005, 15:12

If you get a second puter you need to get it networked. Otherwise she will insist that she needs to use the internet for some "really vital homework" (which means MSN)

CFBC

16th May 2005, 15:17

Yeah, I agree... Networking em is easy enough and that way Agent you can limit mini's internet use through the network also. Ive got two PC's networked. One I use for work and the other for games and Mrs CFBC to use..... (firewalled em both, network protected em and each has indervidual anti-virus too)...

Best way...

Snaffs,

You can always look here too.... Reviews -

http://www.webuser.co.uk/products/AntiSpyware_198_index.html (http://www.webuser.co.uk/products/AntiSpyware_198_index.html)

P.S - DC, Whats even better is I can network another three PC's for when my mates come over for a network game.... Awesome it is.... :D One in each room..... Long CAT5 cables....

Agent X20

16th May 2005, 15:27

See your point on the network, however why not run em as two standalones with the one wireless Internet link so that if armageddon does happen it dont travel across from one puter to other... thing is if they want to go and find whatever... they will......

CFBC

16th May 2005, 15:51

Yes, that also.. I took you at your point of not knowing when mini will be on an all night session, at least you will be able to restrict a 2am "surfing" by blocking it via a time method via the hub that is all or restrict certain sites via that (well mine I can if I want too)... I could stop Mrs CFBC checking out this site.... Hmmm. Thats a thought!! (If she had already, well it wouldn't be running now!!!).... :D

I have not got wireless, but surely if one PC catches a virus, then it can spead via wireless as easy as a network cable? Unless you unplug the wireless on the machine of course...

Agent X20

16th May 2005, 15:59

I dunno... more than the Internet would be wireless, the computers separate... there seems little point in networking the compooters if they were both gonna catch a cold... need to have speaks with bloke darn the pub who knows all.... Knowledge here limited..!!