Russian Hurricane

[Dogtwenty]

Come on then who's rushed out and bought one then?

Lets see, is it covered in runny paint, wrong colour brown or is it worth the money? Answers here please and I'll see if the floorboards in the kennel can take another kite. One thing I DO know - the water boiler wont, its sprung a leak - I can feel the pounds running away.........:(

[Shamrock]

Could'nt be a**ded. It is basically the same as the other schemes with some new numerials added. In a very good article a few months ago in Flypast or Aeroplane (can't remember which) they did an article on this squadron in Russia.

They could have given us the bird with Russian stars, and changed the armament to two 12.7 MMs and two 20MM cannon. Then one would be tempted to purchase. I'm not normally a 'bin rooter' but I'd only buy this one at 'bin price'.

[Dutchie]

Dogtwenty & Shamrock.....here we go.................:rolleyes: :LOL:
I think it's a nice one, seen in the light of history. Corgi did IMO a good one. Special is the color of the spinner in same color as the underside blue.:)


http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff88/dutchie_393/P1010002-3.jpg

[Dutchie]

The Hurricane from an other point of view:)

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff88/dutchie_393/P1010030-2.jpg

[DCRanger]

I think most of us were expecting to see stars but that's too b**** obvious.:mad:

[charley]

I think most of us were expecting to see stars but that's too b**** obvious.:mad:

:LOL: Funny!

[ACES]

Thats one hell of a joint line on the air intake :eek:

[CFBC]

Could'nt be a**ded. It is basically the same as the other schemes with some new numerials added. In a very good article a few months ago in Flypast or Aeroplane (can't remember which) they did an article on this squadron in Russia.

They could have given us the bird with Russian stars, and changed the armament to two 12.7 MMs and two 20MM cannon. Then one would be tempted to purchase. I'm not normally a 'bin rooter' but I'd only buy this one at 'bin price'.

Tis a shame as like you say it is basically a UK Hurricane! Red Stars are what we want! A nice white Hurricane with Red Stars would be better!!

[Agent X20]

Fall - y - offy air intake .... postitive prop droop and on the first photo looks like privacy glass for the pilot.. snowglare......... this should have been a warbird....:( and to think Pete Brothers could have been an AA issue....:(

[charley]

mmmm good points there Agent.

D-Day, Peplow, Russian for me 'missed' Hurricane opportunities. Pete Brothers most certainly should have got the full AA treatment!

[Dutchie]

Come on boys, it is really a nice model.:)
(I bought it:wacko: :D :) )

"Huricanes over Russia" the story of RAF 151 Wing
-DVD endorsed by RAF Historical Society-
Atoll Productions, 64 Gore Road , Londodn.........info from Corgi's "Flight Recorder".

[biffo]

I think most of us were expecting to see stars but that's too b**** obvious.:mad:I must admit RUSSKI STARS would be nice, even better the hurrie mark 1V &11D's they used, now that would go nice with H/M P39's on the market!:D

[p-51d]

Fall - y - offy air intake .... postitive prop droop and on the first photo looks like privacy glass for the pilot.. snowglare......... this should have been a warbird....:( and to think Pete Brothers could have been an AA issue....:(

What a let down,completely agree with Agent,bin fodder guaranteed .:(

[dilligafocau]

I think most of us were expecting to see stars but that's too b**** obvious.:mad:

Gawd there's no pleasing some people :LOL:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff93/dilligafocau/russianhurrie1.jpg

[CFBC]

I do in Dutchie's defence have to say that the Corgi Huricane tooling still holds it's own in terms of being a top tooling and model, but it is about time these moulds were rested and put only as discussed at the Corgi/DAF meet into the Warbird range! This was agreed upon also by the Corgi representative at the time, but he is the R&D man only, not the bean counter.

Saying that also, we have to remember that this was annonced and decided last year.....

It does look good, but it is too similar to the other Hurricanes. :)

[DCRanger]

Gawd there's no pleasing some people :LOL:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff93/dilligafocau/russianhurrie1.jpg

I'm easily pleased. Thanks Dilli.:D

[The Defiant Man]

OK scheme.....crap QC......should have had red stars like the Spit......I might get one when they are the dumped "model of the week".

[Craig]

I'm going to have to swim against the grain here and say that even though it's not really "my thing" being a Russian model I like it more than I thought I would, the scheme looks OK to me. Having said that though the QC demons are still clearly alive and well and the state of the prop and that intake are unacceptable given what is being charged. QC remains the priority it seems, how can anyone pre-order with confidence then have this sort of thing happen. I've had to return far too many Corgi models, this sort of thing does not impress and hardly raises the status of the range. The Hurricane is a lovely tooling and still looks the business, but errors like this are inexcusable. :(

[Dutchie]

Gawd there's no pleasing some people :LOL:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff93/dilligafocau/russianhurrie1.jpg

You forgot to photo-shop the reflection:LOL:

[ZS-VAN]

:LOL: Very funny Dutchie. :D

[DCRanger]

You forgot to photo-shop the reflection:LOL:
Yup - no pleasing some people.:D

[no4mkit]

You forgot to photo-shop the reflection:LOL:

:LOL: Good catch Dutchie! :LOL: I'll agree it is a good model though the QC issues are unacceptable, so I'll get one once the price drops a bit (I'm a Hurricane completist afterall! :wacko: ) A red star livery would have been preferred though.

Prop droop seems to be the norm with the Hurri's now, but I've found it can be easily addressed by correcting the fit of the engine within the engine bay. Take note Corgi!

[Tiffie K N-L]

Nice model but I am passing on this one just kinda the same scheme as the others I'll save my money and will be putting it towards something else. To bad this release wasnt done in winter camo and with russian insignia it would have been a cracker of a model. :rolleyes: :cool:

[CFBC]

Well, I am not taking credit for this, in fact far from, but I acquired this from a very nice chap accross the pond!

It's a FOV converted Hurricane, but detailing is very nice.....

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/dljames/Forces%20Of%20valor/04e537bf.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/dljames/Forces%20Of%20valor/6d752eac.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/dljames/Forces%20Of%20valor/059cd81b.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/dljames/Forces%20Of%20valor/cc3915b6.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/dljames/Forces%20Of%20valor/5c78f976.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/dljames/Forces%20Of%20valor/947a08ca.jpg

Now, the only problem is that there is no formal records or colour photographs showing any of the detailing from what I can find out and have been advised and this could be why we have not seen one from Corgi...

[von hitchofen]

yes, yes and thrice yes!

thats what we've been wanting!

[no4mkit]

Now, the only problem is that there is no formal records or colour photographs showing any of the detailing from what I can find out and have been advised and this could be why we have not seen one from Corgi...

Well there are photo's of white IIb's with the Soviet gun mods. Perhaps I will do one of those using Corgi's casting. Would that be enough to get their stick out?? :LOL:

[CFBC]

Could be No.4. ;) :)

(could you send it over so I could take it into Corgi - Oh, you won't get it back) :D

I like Russian Hurricanes! ;) :cool

[Wolster]

That is nice CFBC!!

:cool:

[no4mkit]

Could be No.4. ;) :)

(could you send it over so I could take it into Corgi - Oh, you won't get it back) :D

I like Russian Hurricanes! ;) :cool

What - one's not enough, huh??! :D

[CFBC]

What - one's not enough, huh??! :D

shad-up and get to work! :D :D

[Cruver Collecter]

Hurricane in Soviet markings, that would make it on my shopping list.

[Dutchie]

Very ice model and pictures CFBC. This is a real Rusian one!:cool:

[no4mkit]

shad-up and get to work! :D :D

There's only one Mrs. No4, but thanks anyway CFBC. ;)

[klepto4]

Probably better off getting the Modelzone Special that came with the POTR Lanc, that's a nicer scheme. I could live with a little bit of prop droop as long as the scheme was top Banana but this release is just pointless :(

[Tiffie K N-L]

Well, I am not taking credit for this, in fact far from, but I acquired this from a very nice chap accross the pond!

It's a FOV converted Hurricane, but detailing is very nice.....

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/dljames/Forces%20Of%20valor/04e537bf.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/dljames/Forces%20Of%20valor/6d752eac.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/dljames/Forces%20Of%20valor/059cd81b.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/dljames/Forces%20Of%20valor/cc3915b6.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/dljames/Forces%20Of%20valor/5c78f976.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/dljames/Forces%20Of%20valor/947a08ca.jpg

Now, the only problem is that there is no formal records or colour photographs showing any of the detailing from what I can find out and have been advised and this could be why we have not seen one from Corgi...


Nice pictures there CFBC an now I am drueling all over my keypad thanks to you.:)

I know where you got it CFBC ;) I should off blackmailed you guys before I posted each of your models off.:p I am sure out off the two of you I could of ended up with a nice WHITE RUSKIE HURRICANE that would have been a fair enough ransom me thinks............:LOL: :D

[Tiffie K N-L]

Well there are photo's of white IIb's with the Soviet gun mods. Perhaps I will do one of those using Corgi's casting. Would that be enough to get their stick out?? :LOL:


Dont quote me because I am not familier with the Russian Hurricanes but would the legends tank buster hurricane work for a conversion? :unsure:

Like I said before what a talent an such great work there no4 awesome job!:)

[CFBC]

I am sure out off the two of you I could of ended up with a nice WHITE RUSKIE HURRICANE that would have been a fair enough ransom me thinks............:LOL: :D

Oh you could have Tiffie, quite easily indeed, but would a white Ruki Hurricane be worth all the pain and suffering that I and this "other" member could have inflicted on you further if you had not have sent it? :D

[minter]

still reckon they should do a battle of France one :(

[Agent X20]

There's two or three they could do.... be it white Russian, BOF.. personally I would just like to see a good weathered BoB one.. and some of the Aces given AA status.... proper Nicholson jobbie.... some ground equipment.... If you must insist on trying to get £29 for a model then throw in a bowser and a couple of figures with it... somehow I just feel they have lost their way and appetite....Flying Anglias are much more profitable... :mad:

[Mark Brown]

if you want a decent Russian Hurricane try Diverse images MKIIB flown by
Major-General A A Kuznestov:cool: yeah yeah i know they are not cheap blah blah blah. at least you will get the stars you crave:D

[Wolster]

if you want a decent Russian Hurricane try Diverse images MKIIB flown by
Major-General A A Kuznestov:cool: yeah yeah i know they are not cheap blah blah blah. at least you will get the stars you crave:D

I was thinking of getting another Warbirds Mk.1 and (attempting) to convert it to this aircraft. It would be a good subject for Corgi as the original aircraft has been found and is hopefully being restored.

:cool

[minter]

There's two or three they could do.... be it white Russian, BOF.. personally I would just like to see a good weathered BoB one.. and some of the Aces given AA status.... proper Nicholson jobbie.... some ground equipment.... If you must insist on trying to get £29 for a model then throw in a bowser and a couple of figures with it... somehow I just feel they have lost their way and appetite....Flying Anglias are much more profitable... :mad:

yes wouldnt mind seeing a Lacey or Carey ,dalton-morgan

[dilligafocau]

There's two or three they could do.... be it white Russian, BOF.. personally I would just like to see a good weathered BoB one.. and some of the Aces given AA status.... proper Nicholson jobbie.... some ground equipment.... If you must insist on trying to get £29 for a model then throw in a bowser and a couple of figures with it... somehow I just feel they have lost their way and appetite....Flying Anglias are much more profitable... :mad:

The RAF version Anglia's are ok :LOL:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff93/dilligafocau/anglianightfighter.jpg

[johnnyboy]

Not so sure on that shade of green:LOL: :LOL:

[Dutchie]

The RAF version Anglia's are ok :LOL:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff93/dilligafocau/anglianightfighter.jpg

As good as the red star dilligafocau:LOL:

[kevjb64]

Not so sure on that shade of green:LOL: :LOL:

And if thats a Mk.II its got the wrong door handles !! :rolleyes: :D

["Full Metal Cockpit"]

Well there are photo's of white IIb's with the Soviet gun mods. Perhaps I will do one of those using Corgi's casting. Would that be enough to get their stick out?? :LOL:

This looks to be a very good model but - please tell me where the photos are because all our research and extensive contacts have lead to nothing! I have been told in no uncertain terms that photos exist in a Russian museum but when asked no one has come up with the actual proof, the day some one does we will produce a white Russian Hurricane but until then I contend it is all supposition. Please prove me wrong - but only with actual photos.
Finally I would ask why the Kuznetsov Hurricane recovered by Jim Pearce from a Russian lake was camouflaged, he was the top General in the Northern Fleet yet he did not have a white Hurricane.
Tim
www.diverse-images.com

[Wolster]

Finally I would ask why the Kuznetsov Hurricane recovered by Jim Pearce from a Russian lake was camouflaged, he was the top General in the Northern Fleet yet he did not have a white Hurricane.
Tim
www.diverse-images.com

Thinking about it I would have to agree with you Tim. As that particular Hurricane was lost after a forced landing on a frozen lake it would be fairly safe to assume it was winter time.

;)

[no4mkit]

Regarding Kuznetsov, I've seen one photo of him in his Hurricane which was apparently taken shortly after it was delivered, and another of him climbing out of 'a' hurricane (not certain if it's 'his') and it is not a white scheme. Did his Hurricane ever wear white? Who knows, but I'd doubt it. I've read that he usually flew it as his liason aircraft between bases under his command, so I wonder, being a General at the time, did he even fight the aircraft? I'm not familiar enough with him to know so maybe someone who is can answer. Point is if he didn't and if it wasn't deployed on the front lines, it's doubtful a white wash would have been applied for winter. But on the rare chance it was, I would expect the years underwater would long ago have washed any evidence away from the recovered aircraft.

Tim - apologies - going back to the photo I had in mind, it's apparent now it is actually a camoflaged aircraft. The poor quality and underexposure makes the scheme appear very light, but under closer scrutiny I can see some demarkation and variation in the tones. In Osprey's 'Soviet Lend Lease Fighter Aces' there are color plates and one profile is of a white Hurricane. While I absolutely agree that this is completely inadmissable as evidence, you have to wonder at the artist's source as the other profiles all seem to have some research behind them as evidenced in the captions. Same for the decal sets available for these white schemes. Could the artists possibly provide some photographic evidence?

So there's no hard proof of the white scheme, but with over 3300 Hurricanes supplied to the Soviets, and real photo evidence that some other fighter types (including lend-lease planes) did wear temporary white washes in winter, we can say there is at least the possibility there were white Hurricanes.
But is that enough to go on if your producing a model of the type? For Tim and Diverse Images certainly and understandably not. But would it be acceptable for Corgi to do a model based on supposition? Maybe a new thread with a poll? That should get the arguments going! ;)

[CFBC]

This is turning into a very good read, thanks No.4. :) Any chance of tracking down those pics do you think? Would be very interested to see them.

["Full Metal Cockpit"]

Regarding Kuznetsov, I've seen one photo of him in his Hurricane which was apparently taken shortly after it was delivered, and another of him climbing out of 'a' hurricane (not certain if it's 'his') and it is not a white scheme. Did his Hurricane ever wear white? Who knows, but I'd doubt it. I've read that he usually flew it as his liason aircraft between bases under his command, so I wonder, being a General at the time, did he even fight the aircraft? I'm not familiar enough with him to know so maybe someone who is can answer. Point is if he didn't and if it wasn't deployed on the front lines, it's doubtful a white wash would have been applied for winter. But on the rare chance it was, I would expect the years underwater would long ago have washed any evidence away from the recovered aircraft.

Tim - apologies - going back to the photo I had in mind, it's apparent now it is actually a camoflaged aircraft. The poor quality and underexposure makes the scheme appear very light, but under closer scrutiny I can see some demarkation and variation in the tones. In Osprey's 'Soviet Lend Lease Fighter Aces' there are color plates and one profile is of a white Hurricane. While I absolutely agree that this is completely inadmissable as evidence, you have to wonder at the artist's source as the other profiles all seem to have some research behind them as evidenced in the captions. Same for the decal sets available for these white schemes. Could the artists possibly provide some photographic evidence?

So there's no hard proof of the white scheme, but with over 3300 Hurricanes supplied to the Soviets, and real photo evidence that some other fighter types (including lend-lease planes) did wear temporary white washes in winter, we can say there is at least the possibility there were white Hurricanes.
But is that enough to go on if your producing a model of the type? For Tim and Diverse Images certainly and understandably not. But would it be acceptable for Corgi to do a model based on supposition? Maybe a new thread with a poll? That should get the arguments going! ;)

A very brief reply to a very good response.

1)The Osprey author when contacted gave me no hard evidence.
2) We are lucky to know Jim Pearce quite well. We have photos of and have personally examined the FW 189 taken from the frozen tundra after a considerable number of years, this had a white wash which is still very evident. Kuznetsovs Hurricane I would contend was far more protected under a still, fresh water frozen lake.
3) Yes there should be a white Hurricane - but there is no proof.:)
4) If any one else wants to produce one, fine, but sorry we cannot.
Kind regards
Rivet counter aka Tim
(The Forum is a pleasure compared with some of the emails I recieve.)

[no4mkit]

1)The Osprey author when contacted gave me no hard evidence.

Excellent - had a feeling you may have checked that already Tim! :)


2) We are lucky to know Jim Pearce quite well. We have photos of and have personally examined the FW 189 taken from the frozen tundra after a considerable number of years, this had a white wash which is still very evident. Kuznetsovs Hurricane I would contend was far more protected under a still, fresh water frozen lake.

So on this I'd offer that the opposite may be true, where a water based whitewash, as I believe these applications were, would come off easier and more thoroughly in constant contact with water, even stagnant fresh water, than it would in open air under exposure to natural elements, possibly even being protected by cold and snow. Regardless, I'm belaboring the point as we agree that Kuznetsov's Hurricane probably never wore white. :cool



4) If any one else wants to produce one, fine, but sorry we cannot.

Perfectly understandable Tim. It wouldn't fit with DI's product line to do so!


Will we ever find the evidence? I don't know, but this is starting to feel like an episode of Leonard Nemoy's "In Search Of..." :LOL:


P.S. - still loving my 1/144 Barton VC Halifax Tim! ;)

[fatalbert]

[QUOTE=no4mkit;206906]Regarding Kuznetsov, I've seen one photo of him in his Hurricane which was apparently taken shortly after it was delivered, and another of him climbing out of 'a' hurricane (not certain if it's 'his') and it is not a white scheme. Did his Hurricane ever wear white? Who knows, but I'd doubt it. I've read that he usually flew it as his liason aircraft between bases under his command, so I wonder, being a General at the time, did he even fight the aircraft? I'm not familiar enough with him to know so maybe someone who is can answer. Point is if he didn't and if it wasn't deployed on the front lines, it's doubtful a white wash would have been applied for winter.[QUOTE]



By the time of it's loss the Hurricane had reverted to Squadron use and was being flown by a Lt Markov on the day of it's loss.It definately flew in anger and was still fully armed including 4 RS-82 under-wing rockets,when recovered from the lake.

[Wolster]

This is turning into a very good read, thanks No.4. :) Any chance of tracking down those pics do you think? Would be very interested to see them.

I'm using one of them as my avatar!

:o

["Full Metal Cockpit"]

Attached are photos of Z5252 in service and the tail of the Fw 189 showing the original white overpainting.

[DCRanger]

How about this one then? OK, not completely white but white and "Tundra". It is displayed at Revda in the Kola Peninsula and painted as BM951 though that is not it's true identity. It is in the markings of Captain Yakovlenko who was shot down and killed in 1941. The scheme is based on photographs of similar Hurricanes.

(Info from Aeroplane 1997).

Several variations of the scheme appear on the Wings Pallette site.

http://i25.tinypic.com/30tlzyd.jpg

["Full Metal Cockpit"]

How about this one then? OK, not completely white but white and "Tundra". It is displayed at Revda in the Kola Peninsula and painted as BM951 though that is not it's true identity. It is in the markings of Captain Yakovlenko who was shot down and killed in 1941. The scheme is based on photographs of similar Hurricanes.

(Info from Aeroplane 1997).

Several variations of the scheme appear on the Wings Pallette site.

http://i25.tinypic.com/30tlzyd.jpg

That's interesting I will have to ask the boss why she has not suggested it:rolleyes:

[Red 2]

Absorbing and utterly fascinating thread. Someone could produce a magazine article eventually...'The Hunt for the White Russian':)

[CFBC]

That's interesting I will have to ask the boss why she has not suggested it:rolleyes:

Right, we best send Kev64 over to Russia again as he has connections....

Make sure he has his camera with him!

[kevjb64]

Right, we best send Kev64 over to Russia again as he has connections....

Make sure he has his camera with him!

All contributions for this very worthwhile venture should be sent to my Paypal account !! :rolleyes: :D

[Red 2]

Right, we best send Kev64 over to Russia again as he has connections....

Make sure he has his camera with him!

Hmmmm....camera...can see a long stay courtesy of Mr Putin for Kev!

Mind you, would be worth it...all for the greater glory of the forum etc.:D

[CFBC]

Hmmmm....camera...can see a long stay courtesy of Mr Putin for Kev!

Mind you, would be worth it...all for the greater glory of the forum etc.:D

Not wishing to dilute the thread, but I can just imagine Kev64 in Russia with a camera... Would be another:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/dljames/dljames2/Red_heat_VJD32088.jpg

[klepto4]

How about this one then? OK, not completely white but white and "Tundra". It is displayed at Revda in the Kola Peninsula and painted as BM951 though that is not it's true identity. It is in the markings of Captain Yakovlenko who was shot down and killed in 1941. The scheme is based on photographs of similar Hurricanes.

(Info from Aeroplane 1997).

Several variations of the scheme appear on the Wings Pallette site.

http://i25.tinypic.com/30tlzyd.jpg

Blimey that is just awesome, truely a scheme that you can say is awesome and too be honest is more than a great substitute for an all over white one. I'd be satisfied with that full stop

Full Cannons, Ruskki Star, winter Camo, what's not too like!

Corgi, this better be on the cards :mad:

[kevjb64]

Hmmmm....camera...can see a long stay courtesy of Mr Putin for Kev!

Mind you, would be worth it...all for the greater glory of the forum etc.:D

Actually got loads of photo's and in the museums , red square etc . they were fine but just wandering around the streets snapping nothing in particular did get told NYET on several occasions .:(

[dilligafocau]

Blimey that is just awesome, truely a scheme that you can say is awesome and too be honest is more than a great substitute for an all over white one. I'd be satisfied with that full stop

Full Cannons, Ruskki Star, winter Camo, what's not too like!

Corgi, this better be on the cards :mad:

The stand looks classic Corgi, they just need to do the Hurricane perched on it now :rolleyes:

[no4mkit]

Blimey that is just awesome, truely a scheme that you can say is awesome and too be honest is more than a great substitute for an all over white one. I'd be satisfied with that full stop

Full Cannons, Ruskki Star, winter Camo, what's not too like!

Corgi, this better be on the cards :mad:


I agree, and I'd take one in a heartbeat. Only problem is Corgi doesn't have the wing for a IIC Hurricane (panel lines for the gun bays are completely different) :(

[P51D]

I agree, and I'd take one in a heartbeat. Only problem is Corgi doesn't have the wing for a IIC Hurricane (panel lines for the gun bays are completely different) :(


I think FOV are just waiting for you to produce a pre-pro for them no4 :LOL:

Trouble is last time we got a copy of one of your re-paints I seem to remember they added black lines which put 99% of us off buying it :(

http://www.aircraftmodels.co.uk/1448_1_1952349.html

[DCRanger]

I agree, and I'd take one in a heartbeat. Only problem is Corgi doesn't have the wing for a IIC Hurricane (panel lines for the gun bays are completely different) :(

According to Aeroplane, the aircraft is a IIB, possibly one of the 151 wing machines, but the Russians removed the MGs and replaced them with four cannons. Regrettably details of the changes made to accommodate them are not provided.

The photograph was taken by Yulian Konstantinov of The Bulgarian Society of Regional Cultural Science Arctic project. He also photographed the engine including the serial number (64307) so presumably he was close enough to get other details.

Anybody got his contact details?:)

If any one is interested in reading the whole article then pm me with your email address.

[no4mkit]

I think FOV are just waiting for you to produce a pre-pro for them no4 :LOL:


:LOL: If that's what it takes! Haven't got the cheque from the last one yet though... :mad: ;) :D

But DCR asys the real plane is a IIB, so Corgi could afterall.... :cool


Trouble is last time we got a copy of one of your re-paints I seem to remember they added black lines which put 99% of us off buying it :(

http://www.aircraftmodels.co.uk/1448_1_1952349.html


Yes, they spoiled another one with the dip into black ink. I did see one in a shop that looks like it missed that step and was far better for it!

Whether mine inspired them or not, ultimately the references must have been different:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/no4mkit/SeaHurri-mine-vs-FOV-2.jpg

[klepto4]

:LOL: If that's what it takes! Haven't got the cheque from the last one yet though... :mad: ;) :D

But DCR asys the real plane is a IIB, so Corgi could afterall.... :cool




Yes, they spoiled another one with the dip into black ink. I did see one in a shop that looks like it missed that step and was far better for it!

Whether mine inspired them or not, ultimately the references must have been different:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/no4mkit/SeaHurri-mine-vs-FOV-2.jpg

Oh blimey No4 yours is a squillion times better than FOV's attempt, but must admit I do like the black and grey markings on top of the engine cover where yours is just grey, ha ha there's no pleasing me :LOL:

[Wolster]

I asked about white Hurricanes on another Russian forum and nobody has come up with a picture there either! Closest anybody could find was this:

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9185/whitehurrilu0.png

[Wolster]

:LOL: If that's what it takes! Haven't got the cheque from the last one yet though... :mad: ;) :D

But DCR asys the real plane is a IIB, so Corgi could afterall.... :cool




Yes, they spoiled another one with the dip into black ink. I did see one in a shop that looks like it missed that step and was far better for it!

Whether mine inspired them or not, ultimately the references must have been different:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/no4mkit/SeaHurri-mine-vs-FOV-2.jpg


Anybody notice that bottom one has 2 port wings! :LOL:

[Shamrock]

As far as I can remember the article in Aeroplane or Flypast mentioned the Russian armament retro fit. One 20MM cannon and .50cal mg in each wing.

[no4mkit]

Anybody notice that bottom one has 2 port wings! :LOL:

yes, common to the FOV Hurri's I've got Wolster.:) Of course, I didn't even bother on mine! :o

[no4mkit]

Wolster, that Hurricane in your profile art looks very close to this Corgi conversion I did some time ago (using the Peplow IIC). This may get another conversion to the Soviet 20mm/12.7mm gun mod. Corgi's wings aren't IIC wings anyway.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/no4mkit/RussianHurricane3.jpg

[Wolster]

yes, common to the FOV Hurri's I've got Wolster.:) Of course, I didn't even bother on mine! :o

Yours is more accurate I would guess, are the wing tip lights not just clear lenses with coloured bulbs or would they be coloured glass?

:confused:

[Wolster]

[QUOTE=no4mkit;207199]Wolster, that Hurricane in your profile art looks very close to this Corgi conversion I did some time ago (using the Peplow IIC). This may get another conversion to the Soviet 20mm/12.7mm gun mod. Corgi's wings aren't IIC wings anyway.
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Somebody on the other forum pointed out the gun arrangement is a little funny on the picture I posted. If it is a IIb there are a couple of guns missing??

[johnnyboy]

I came across this profile in which it states that this was fitted with an ASh-82 engine anybody know what it was like with this installed and was there any improvement on performance? This is the first time I have heard anything about this Hurricane
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[no4mkit]

saw that one too JB, but don't know anything about it. Does look similar (and just as ugly!) as the experimental fit of a Bristol Hercules to the Hurricane.

[kevjb64]

How about this one then? OK, not completely white but white and "Tundra". It is displayed at Revda in the Kola Peninsula and painted as BM951 though that is not it's true identity. It is in the markings of Captain Yakovlenko who was shot down and killed in 1941. The scheme is based on photographs of similar Hurricanes.

(Info from Aeroplane 1997).

Several variations of the scheme appear on the Wings Pallette site.

http://i25.tinypic.com/30tlzyd.jpg

Every time I look at this photo I think Corgi MUST have seen this before , when they were originally designing their stands !! :rolleyes: :)

[no4mkit]

are the wing tip lights not just clear lenses with coloured bulbs or would they be coloured glass?

:confused:

I can only judge by the current warbirds that I've seen in person and in color photo's Wolster. They are clear plexiglass coverings over colored lamps.

[no4mkit]

http://i25.tinypic.com/30tlzyd.jpg

Now that Hurricane needs to come down and be made a flyer again - and keep the scheme! :cool :cool With all the oil money in Russia you'd think one tycoon could step up...

As an interesting aside, there is a pic in the Osprey "Soviet Lend Lease Fighters..." book of a P-40 nose with a similar white camo scheme.

[Cruver Collecter]

Found this Hurricane photo in a 1940s Air News addition.

[Cruver Collecter]

Soviets 20mm cannon mounts definitely look a bit different compared to how the folks in the UK version.

[Shamrock]

Spot on the money Cruver!! That is exactly the armament fitting we should have got along with stars for a Russian Hurricane :D

[fatalbert]

Inspired by No4's great work i finally got around to sorting a project i've had in mind for ages.

It's a bit rough and ready,but in my defence i haven't painted a model for about 30 years (even then i was terrible),but overall it has the look i was aiming for.......unkempt describes it nicely i think.:)

I've included the Ixo I-16 to keep it company.

[CFBC]

Inspired by No4's great work i finally got around to sorting a project i've had in mind for ages.

It's a bit rough and ready,but in my defence i haven't painted a model for about 30 years (even then i was terrible),but overall it has the look i was aiming for.......unkempt describes it nicely i think.:)

I've included the Ixo I-16 to keep it company.

Oher. Another to add mto my collection.... :D

Good stuff FA. ;) :)

(don't ask him how many bottle of tipex he used though) - :D

[Grim Reaper]

I think it looks quite authentic fatalbert considering what they would have available at the time IMPO quite :cool

[Grim Reaper]

(don't ask him how many bottle of tipex he used though) - :D

Okay as CFBC has raised the subject how many bottles of tippex did you use FA :D ;) :LOL:

[fatalbert]

Okay as CFBC has raised the subject how many bottles of tippex did you use FA :D ;) :LOL:



He He He.............no tippex.......it was white and red acrylic which was an experience as i've never used them before.:D :D


Thinking big for my next project.;)............might paint a lifesize CFBC with tippex if he's at the Audley End Spit day on the Sunday.

[Grim Reaper]

He He He.............no tippex.......it was white and red acrylic which was an experience as i've never used them before.:D :D


Thinking big for my next project.;)............might paint a lifesize CFBC with tippex if he's at the Audley End Spit day on the Sunday.

Don`t think you can afford enough tippex for that FA :LOL:

[klepto4]

He He He.............no tippex.......it was white and red acrylic which was an experience as i've never used them before.:D :D


Thinking big for my next project.;)............might paint a lifesize CFBC with tippex if he's at the Audley End Spit day on the Sunday.

Nah, try B&Q's finest........... Dulux Brilliant white Matt Immulsion. Instructions: Obtain large container and use non-sparingly by pouring quickly he he

[fatalbert]

Don`t think you can afford enough tippex for that FA :LOL:


Think the 'Hairy Legs' might cause a bit of a problem as well............probably clog the tippex brush up.:LOL: :LOL:

[Grim Reaper]

I think klepto4 has the right idea :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

[fatalbert]

Nah, try B&Q's finest........... Dulux Brilliant white Matt Immulsion. Instructions: Obtain large container and use non-sparingly by pouring quickly he he



Right,sounds like a plan.

Cover CFBC in white emulsion then stick his jaffa cakes to the paint (chocolate side facing outwards) and see if we can pass him off as a Dalmation.:D :LOL: :D :LOL:

[klepto4]

Right,sounds like a plan.

Cover CFBC in white emulsion then stick his jaffa cakes to the paint (chocolate side facing outwards) and see if we can pass him off as a Dalmation.:D :LOL: :D :LOL:

He He a new type of winter camo :LOL:

[kevjb64]

Think the 'Hairy Legs' might cause a bit of a problem as well............probably clog the tippex brush up.:LOL: :LOL:

Ask everyone with the rare version of the pube B26 FOV to bring along the hairs and your laughing , ready made hairy legs . :rolleyes: :)

[The Defiant Man]

Right,sounds like a plan.

Cover CFBC in white emulsion then stick his jaffa cakes to the paint (chocolate side facing outwards) and see if we can pass him off as a Dalmation.:D :LOL: :D :LOL:

What a terrible thing to contemplate doing.

A terrible waste of Jaffas.....:LOL: