GJ and Corgi go separate ways

[plumstix]

Just found this notice on the GJ website

Attention UK customers,

As many of you may have already been informed, ADI will be ending their association with Corgi at the close of this month (November). The October releases will be distributed by Corgi as normal. Models for November will temporarily be distributed from ADI in the U.S. All dealers requiring service during the November period are asked to please contact ADI directly at the contact numbers listed (by clicking on this link). A new distributor will be appointed in the UK for the December releases that are planned for early January delivery. We wish Corgi well, and have appreciated the relationship we have had with them over the past several years. This change is necessary in order to better serve our customers and we feel that the benefits will result in a closer relationship between GeminiJets/ADI and our UK customers. Please do not contact Corgi for any of your GeminiJet needs after 01 December 2004. Thank you for your understanding and continued support!

[maple 01]

Good, now perhaps Corgi can get on with 1/144 scale VC10s,Tridents, BAC 1-11s, Vanguards etc - oh and I suppose they could make some of those American things too......

[plumstix]

We live in hope, Maple.

[NeilD]

just hope they (Corgi) didnt get their fingers burnt and spent (wasted?) all the money which they shoulve been investing in their own range (1/144 VC10 etc etc etc etc )
Neil.

[charley]

lets have back the 'real' aviation archive.... ;)

[spock1]

:) Mr. Plumstix,

Would you be kind enough please to post a link for the GJ site??

Many thanks.......... :)

[Typhoon-MKV]

Hello my Vulcan Friend - if you go here (http://www.diecast-aviation.co.uk/html/links.html) and click on the Gemini Jets link under the Diecast/Model Web Sites of Interest.

However having kust checked the website cannot actually see any announcements on there. Rather strange.......

[spock1]

:) Mr. Stealth,

Many thanks for your prompt response. You should find that which you seek under the section for 'Distributors.'

Having only been told by a Corgi 'representative' barely a week ago that rumours of this change were totally unfounded, then yo and behold!!! Sorry folks but Corgi credibility at the moment is next to none existent!!! :mad:

[BSteinIPMS]

Here's the link, Spock:

http://www.geminijets.com

This opens the home page. Click on this:

Attention UK Customers!

Please see important information regarding distribution of GeminiJets in the UK by clicking on this link!

[spock1]

:) Thanks, Bob, it will be interesting to see how my suppliers try and fob this one off!!!............ :rolleyes:

[goonybird]

Thought this was coming, I've posted about this in another thread. Looks like 50k wasted on 1/250th vc10. If it is released will we be able to buy it??
Why oh Why did they not just do a 1/144th that everyone wants. Must be something to do with Fuzzy logic????
......or the water in Leicester :rolleyes:

I'd better go take a tablet - I feel a funny turn coming on again, now where was that Banff Mossie :D

[charley]

i think its what we call a FUBAR :rolleyes:

[goonybird]

or SNAFU :D

[ascot]

or TFU :D

[Agent X20]

I thought this sort of stuff was the perogative of large insurance companies.. obviously not...

[Av8tor]

Thought that Corgi were only acting as distributors i.e. distributing
Gemini Jet models.

Would be surprised if they were involved with any investment
in their models. Only visible link-up apart from the advertising
were those Concordes which had Corgi on the box. Were these
models initiated by Corgi?

Hopefully, Corgi may resume their own civil models as a result.

[ForkTailedDevil]

I didn't understand why those Corgi Concordes weren't done in 144. It makes little sense to have all the previous civil in 144 and then make one of the most famous and important civil aircraft ever in a toy sized scale. I don't collect civils but I would have shelled out for a 144 Concorde.

[goonybird]

Thought that Corgi were only acting as distributors i.e. distributing
Gemini Jet models.

Would be surprised if they were involved with any investment
in their models. Only visible link-up apart from the advertising
were those Concordes which had Corgi on the box. Were these
models initiated by Corgi?

Hopefully, Corgi may resume their own civil models as a result.

If there are American employees in Corgi's Management structure I would go a far as saying collusion? Conspiracy theory?
I may be paranoid but......................... :p

[BSteinIPMS]

If there are American employees in Corgi's Management structure I would go a far as saying collusion? Conspiracy theory?
I may be paranoid but......................... :p

Old Chinese proverb: Just because you're paranoid, it does not mean someone isn't out to get you! :D

[BSteinIPMS]

I thought this sort of stuff was the perogative of large insurance companies.. obviously not...

It's the prerogative of any any company to exactly what they please without so much as a 'by your leave'. Especially credit card companies..... ;)

[Agent X20]

Insurance Companies / Credit Card companies... all ****** parasites....

Agent X20
IFA.

1/144 Concorde.. well that was just crass timing ... If I was running the place, I would have fired me Sales and Marketing Manager on the spot.. no golden goodbye shakes.. theres the door...

(However it would seem that both a late mark Spitfire and a Concorde elude us in any scale... (apart from toy scale..))

[goonybird]

The only other likely thing is that Corgi initially produce a showcase plane to assess likely demand to produce as a larger specialist item. I wonder if that's why they're making showcase VC10's, Sabres in RAF, Soviet Hurricane, et al.
This could be a very smart way to test the market.????
So better buy VC10's and Sabres in bulk :D :D

[Agent X20]

I reckon no ones got the balls, the ideas, the vision or dreams to carry anything through.... and by the way I didnt say Corgi in my post..!! :D :D :D

protective of their positions.. safety first, the exits are here, there and every bleedin where...

[spock1]

:) Seems like GJ may have pulled the plug on Corgi as they think a little better of their product than to see it consigned en masse to the dump bins before anyone has had chance to sell it!!.......... :rolleyes:

[Agent X20]

So what does this mean, as I am one of limited intelligence.. is there now a 1/250th range... Is there a 1/250 VC10..?... to me Gemini are 1/400..?????

[spock1]

:) Agent,

They may well be dabbling with 1/250th though forthcoming release information a little patchy. It will be interesting to see what develops!!... ;)

[Agent X20]

If there is no commitment to the scale, you are NOT going to get the backing of the collector community (apart from looneys like myself and Goonybird :D ) You have to be 'kin powerful to 'create your own scale...' amnd neither Corgi or gemini are that powerful in the die cast market....

(Tamiya tried this ages ago with 1/100 stuff........ (plastic))

[Albert Ross]

Good, now perhaps Corgi can get on with 1/144 scale VC10s,Tridents, BAC 1-11s, Vanguards etc - oh and I suppose they could make some of those American things too......
...err, err, umm :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Agent X20]

Be nice if we could get an answer on this..

'suppose they did a 1/144 VC10 and nobody bought one...!!'

[BSteinIPMS]

Good, now perhaps Corgi can get on with 1/144 scale VC10s,Tridents, BAC 1-11s, Vanguards etc - oh and I suppose they could make some of those American things too......

That's okay, Nick, I'll take all these British ones in 1/144 first....... :D

[goonybird]

Be nice if we could get an answer on this..

'suppose they did a 1/144 VC10 and nobody bought one...!!'

If Airfix can listen and act on suggestions by enthusiasts, then I'm damn sure a company the size of Corgi are capable of doing the same. Mad I am :mad:
in fact extremely mad :mad:

[spock1]

;) Mr. GB,

Do Starship sensors detect another roasting coming on ?????..... :rolleyes:

[Agent X20]

GB.. sorry..

What really pisses me off big time is that there really is ferk all detail in a VC-10 compared with the likes of yer Wellington / Canberra (similarily priced models..) Fuselage.... two wings.. two sets of two engines.. tailplane and undercart...

p.s Tridents the same...

Still havent gotten over Tri posting that BAC111....

Now if I won the lottery... better do it first...

Why should we have to drool over Dragon FW190's when we could go straight to orga*m with a VC10.... Nay fair... :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[goonybird]

;) Mr. GB,

Do Starship sensors detect another roasting coming on ?????..... :rolleyes:

whooaa! Agent got somfink stirrin' at last. Civils bin a bit quiet lately. As U R aware I feel same way. There would be outrage if Tri had shown pix of a cancelled pre pro of something like a meteor. Oh sorry but this was cancelled at the last minute!

Spock.... NEC is Coming ;)

[Agent X20]

Naw.. tis Agent havin a moan.. wont do any good at all.. no sense out there.. lets all do military stuff til it comes out our ears eyes and other orrifices.. Bout time we had another Liberator chaps.. ashtrays are full on the last one...!!

(By now of course some chappie from Corgi would have come on with some reassuring banter about the fiscal probability of a DC4... and that we will see a civil or two of interest...)

No, Civils are no more.. well give it 25 years when they decide to do die cast planes again......

Naw Gooney .. it was the Me 110 and the Tiffie they cancelled.. no call for it yer know.. who can see fighters in the dark...??

[goonybird]

Yeah agent, some people at a certain company, not a million miles from L*****ster, that allegedly produces and distributes die cast aviation models of aeroplanes obviously need their eyes examined. Then a visit to their local E.N.T. clinic at the Royal Infirmary, to have the ears syringed, and then a follow up visit to the relevent department to have a big n**se perform an enema. Coz some c**p needs clearing out of said company! :D :D :D

Where's our VC10

[Agent X20]

Must be a no brainer..... IMHO..... well suppose it would be after your enemas.... :D :D :D

[NeilD]

its strange the way they seem happy to knock-out some interesting stuff in the Showcase range - RAF and BA VC10, RAF Sabre, 'Black' Hawk etc - but dont transfer the ideas over to the proper scales.. cheaper to make the smaller ones so less of a risk i suppose..?
Neil.

[Agent X20]

I think too that they have many many more retail outlets for the small stuff...

[spock1]

:confused: Gemini and Corgi part company, but who's who these days ?? Seems there may still be a VERY strong connection !!............ ;)

[CFBC]

To be honest Spock having just seen this thread... I would think that ALL these producers are connected in someway..... Most of them I think and from what I know use the same company to produce, I would say perhaps some use the same peeps for reference and then the same importers and retailers.... And the chain goes on.......

[Agent X20]

Just like them dodgy leyboarads.. everywhere....

Be nice though if some one would give an indication as to what the **** was going on in larger than 400th scale civi land..!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[spock1]

:D Agent,

Seems 250th scale next on the runway so to speak!!!.............. :rolleyes:

[Agent X20]

Yep.. but there seems to be sod all there... Further investigation, it looks like 1/200 seems to be favourite..? :rolleyes:

[goonybird]

But most 1/200th specialist at about £100+ way too expensive (excellent range). Other 1/200th plastic, nice but...starjets/wooster/pacmin etc. Quality a bit iffy.
Herpa doing 1/200th diecast now. Lufthansa B727 early colors. Looks nice and costs about £25. Next model rumoured to be SuperConnie. Serious contenders. Gemini 1/250th interesting as about £50 and look good. Bit erratic on release dates though. Still only have Delta and United DC8 stretch. Corgi have stuffed up on 144th so thats as good as dead. And 1/400 (500) just way too small. Never wanted them, never buy them.

[Agent X20]

Thats just it.. we seem to be a little stuffed.. I want the likes of me DH121 and VC10 preferably before I die... I really cannot see what is stopping them..

[goonybird]

Me too. Well stuffed up like a turkey.
Either placky airfix Trident, VC10, which I'm not good at. And a certain Hotel supplier Diecasts 1/200th at a price I will need to remortgage on. C'est la vie.
I had heard a rumour that it was this supplier that Corgi approached when they started, and were advised to do 1/144th! ;)

[plumstix]

I see the GJ website has had a bit of a facelift.

[Speedbird001]

Ever so slightly and I got some info through from the new distributors. Seems that ex-Corgi personnel are now fronting this new GJ distribution company for the UK market!

[charley]

lets hope they took the lousy Marketing Dept with them!!! :mad: Sorry :o

[Speedbird001]

lets hope they took the lousy Marketing Dept with them!!! :mad: Sorry :o
I somehow doubt it by the way that releases are coming so sporadically from Corgi!!

However, we live in hope!!

[diecaster]

Ever so slightly and I got some info through from the new distributors. Seems that ex-Corgi personnel are now fronting this new GJ distribution company for the UK market!

Definately one guy went and it is he who is the front man for this "new" venture. I think it was also him who reviewed the prices in line with a better US$ vs £ exchange rate. He MAY also bring us some more 1/200 StarJets but not for a year or so.

Just means I'm buying even more of the things .. :eek: :eek:

Diecaster

[Speedbird001]

Providing we're singing from the same hymn sheet, one of the other "directors" of this "new" venture is a former Manager within Sales at Corgi!

Thought Star Jets were finished??

[goonybird]

This was in an article in model collecter mag this week. Just hope I can buy my Gemini 250's! :(

Thought Starjets stopped as well?