Robert Taylor

[CFBC]

While browsing Evilbay this Am I stumbled on the following.... Just thought I would let you guys take a peek if you have not done so......

I am in no way connected to the following and with these not being diecast aircraft, feel it is ok to post..... If it is not, then please remove this thread moderators...... :)

Robert Taylor Eagle Squadron Battle of Britain m/sign40
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=360&item=3763464948&rd=1

Robert Taylor Typhoon Attack Multisigned (18)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=360&item=3761558076&rd=1

I know that Robert Taylor is one of the favourites with a number of peeps on the Forum, I like them too, but just don't have the spare wall space and dosh!!!!

Hope you like guys....

[ascot]

Nice pics, I wonder what the reserve is.

CFBC

You got any of Doug Hyde's work?

Ascot

[Typhoon-MKV]

Typhoon Print nice.....

[CFBC]

CFBC

You got any of Doug Hyde's work?

Ascot
Ascot - No I have not mate, although I do like his stuff... However I have lots of McKenzie Thorpes that I cannot justify D/H's work... IN fact I have a lot of M.T's work just put away for a rainly day..... Trying to get Wonkaland at a decent price though or Owen and Chloe.... Ha.... I got a pack last month with D/H's latest work in it as it looks like Washington Green are pushing him more, but Mrs CFBC would kill me!!!!

[minter]

You got any of Doug Hyde's work?

Ascot

never heard of him ! please post some examples or a web address ta

[CFBC]

never heard of him ! please post some examples or a web address ta
Minter.... Doug Hyde is not aviation related I am afraid..... This is probably why you have not heard of him....

If you still want details to be posted I can do, let me know.....

:)

[minter]

Minter.... Doug Hyde is not aviation related I am afraid..... This is probably why you have not heard of him....

If you still want details to be posted I can do, let me know.....

:)

had a look around thanks, and no not for me...cheers though!

[ascot]

Tell you what minter his stuff is selling like hot cakes and will probably double in value in the next year or so. Some are already sold out.

[CFBC]

Tell you what minter his stuff is selling like hot cakes and will probably double in value in the next year or so. Some are already sold out.
True Ascot, I agree with yer as does Mckenzies too...... Worthwhile investment it is, more so than the AA's..... Just a tadge more expensive too....

Getting back to Robert Taylor.... I don't know much about his work, but it certainly looks good from what I have seen......

I bet Stealth is dribbling over that Typhoon!!! :)

[Agent X20]

Those two prints by the way are open editions, i.e not limited.. so the print itself has very little value.. in fact the top one I bought at a fair for £4 about five years ago.. (with no signatures).. It is the signatures that create any premium here... just in case you think ooh Taylors.. bargain..

[CFBC]

That a fair comment Agentx, but can you get the same print for a fiver now? Bit like a few AA's too.... :)

Lots of signatures though... Not my cuppa tea though.....

[snafu]

CFBC - Taylor has done some very nice Mossie pics. Also agree with Agent about the signatures bumping up the prices. One example is Taylors JG52 picture. Original issue price of £125 now stands at approx £2500. By the way it's signed by the odd Luftwaffe pilot.......

Hartmann, Hrabek, Galland, Krupinski, Obleser, Rall and Steinhoff.........

[CFBC]

Yes Snafu.... Mr Stealth keeps pointing them out to me here and there, but if I buy another print or something to hang on the wall, Mrs CFBC is going to kill me.... The house already looks like a Gallery......

Wait until me loft is done!!!!

Must admit.... With those signatures on prints, I can see why the price goes UP.....

[58warren]

Anyone have any of Geoff Nutkin's work. It particularly appeals to me as many of his Battle of Britain paintings also show the landscape local to me (Darent Valley/Shoreham, not far from Biggin Hill).

[Agent X20]

That a fair comment Agentx, but can you get the same print for a fiver now? Bit like a few AA's too.... :)

Lots of signatures though... Not my cuppa tea though.....

It aint that much more..even today it was an open edition and I remember buying one of a huge pile...

Its not one of his best...

The JG52 piccy firstly is about twice the size and all prints are numbered (as in Limited Editions)

£2500 is top dollar the print has to be A1, trouble is there aint that many of them left in that condition as they do fade.. yer dont think they do cos you dont notice.. but then you see it against one thats been kept in the dark in a drawer unframed....

Geoff Nutkins, I like as it tends to be a much 'softer' rendition...

Taylor - there actually not much of his I like..

[minter]

fade they do...damn nuisance,was even very careful to keep out of sunlight too! :(

[ascot]

Get the right glass and hey presto no fading :)

[Agent X20]

Specially the likes of the Duel of Eagles with Bader and Gallands signature... £4.95 that was from the Daily Telegraph back in 197... but most of them are cra* now, specially the ones signed in ballpoint..

[minter]

BALLPOINT! thats odd isnt it thought every sig was in pencil?

[CFBC]

Not in those days Minter... Bet they never had pencils in those days......

:p

[ascot]

feathered quill wasn't it with a little ink well on the desk....over to you Agent :D

[Agent X20]

For the uninitiated youngsters.. :D :D :D This all started off back about 78 when the Daily Telegraph had an offer of an aviation print that was signed by two famous air aces.. in fact it was one of a series.. and this really put Taylor into the big time... the first ones were signed in ballpoint, some in ink, these havent fared too well over the years.. the subsequent issues.. the Lancaster signed by Cheshire and the Hurricane signed by Tuck were in pencil and most of the issues since then have been signed by pencil.. apart from the odd one or two..

The prints came in a cardboard tube and were priced at £4.95.. Agent being the hoarder that he is kept them in the cardboard tube.. for 5 years or so before deciding to get them framed..

1. Do not store your prints in a cardboard tube, the wax coating on the cardboard reacts with the print..
2. Therefore do not buy a print that has 'been stored for years' in the original cardboard tube...
3. Dont buy from a certain Agent X20 as his prints are in places slightly yellow from cardboard tube wax... not noticeable until you are very close..
4. If yer bidding on the Bay for these be VERY careful, specially if they are using stock images...

[ascot]

Err thanks for that Agent Todays Tip of the day folks.

[Agent X20]

Tell yer.. yer get mighty pissed off 5 years later when you come to 'unpack' what you think are mint prints.....

[david cotton]

Hello all
I have a number of Taylor and Trudgian prints, and they are all framed. I try not to put them on a section of the wall that catches the sun, but even out the sun they will fade.

I do not have the heart to keep them off my walls. I want to see the picture. The only person who will beifit from a perfect print is the wife, when i die !

However, i do not want them to degrade to much, So i have them framed in preservation glass. Its a bit more costly but it slows down the fading process.

I am also told that you must ensurre the print is acid free. If you dont it will damage the print.

My best print is "Knights of the Eastern Front" by Taylor. This is closley followed by "Their Finest Hour" by Trudgian. I live close to Hawkinge so its close to my Heart.

Regards
David

[Agent X20]

Well I hope they will stay pristine in their frames.. thing that worries me is very few prints do, when you talk about 20-50 years..

Many of the original Tayors now look very washed out, admitedly they were not marketed as high quality prints..

Anyway as long as me Coulson, Ferris and especially me David Shepard are okay.... :D No chance of sunlight in the loft!!

.. and Mr Cotton.. welcome to the forum.. :D

[minter]

yep pretty sure my taylor spit print is faded,always kept it out of the sun as well....does put me off buying any more :(

[philminnion]

I have ordered the new Volume V of Robert Taylor's paintings from Wings Fine Art. I have the other 4 volumes and for me, this is a good way to have access to Robert's incredible work. Has anyone seen this Volume yet. It apparantly comes in two covers, an RAF version and a USAF varient. I can hardly way for it to arrive.

Phil Minnion
Vancouver, BC
Canada

[ascot]

Hi philminnion

I have both Vol V's RAF and USAAF inc the prints Top cover and Little Friends.
IMHO I think this vol is the best yet and I am sure you will love it.

[philminnion]

Hi philminnion

I have both Vol V's RAF and USAAF inc the prints Top cover and Little Friends.
IMHO I think this vol is the best yet and I am sure you will love it.


Thanks Mate.

Its good to know that my money will be well spent. I certainly like Robert Taylor's work. Robert also does great marine art. I also very much like Geoff Hunt.

Cheers

Phil Minnion

[Agent X20]

Can I ask where you are puttin all this art Mr Ascot..?

[ascot]

Agent

Out of sight of the trouble and strife. Picked up some good signatures at Aces today. Rall (275 victories), Shuck (206 victories), Hugh Parry (Malta) Ken Wilkinson (BoB) Richard Jones (BoB). Not bad for £10 per item. Well I had to get Vol V signed, Fighter Aces of the Luftwaffe (Toliver) and a couple of other books. £40 well spent!!! :)

[Agent X20]

Sorry.. was trying to be more specific.. you buying the prints and storing them or is everything you get framed..

[ascot]

Mostly storing flat in protective covers, I do have Combat over the Reich framed in my study.

[Agent X20]

Coming round to the idea that that is the only way to store them, most of my stuff has been framed and despite fancy glass etc etc, some of it would now not be classified as mint.... specially the Taylor stuff.. :( , but there again you dont get much enjoyment from having them stashed away..

[minter]

cathch 22, i prefer to get the books have the 4 previous volumes and will probably get vol5, but will wait there is always someone doing it 20% cheaper somewhere,

[ascot]

Mint

Shoulda got it at Aces at Duxford then you coulda added 6 BoB sigs inc Billy Drake and Mr Taylor himself. All included in the price!!

[minter]

would have been great, i wonder if mrs mint would have noticed i had sneaked out of the house for 6 hours...... :o

[uksubs]

This look nice 6623658360
ROBERT TAYLOR Duel in the Dark Luftwaffe Night-fighter

[Martin Bull]

That's a good print and one I'd be happy to have on my wall - if there were any space left :( ( I shan't mention that Schnaufer was unlikely to have been hunting in searchlight/flak zones.... ;) )

[minter]

i do like taylors new one on the tuskegee airmen.. looks good :cool:

[prune]

Taylors latest is in the new Flypast,its another Dambusters:rolleyes:
Actually I like it, its an unusual perspective, as if the viewer were in a boat looking up at the point of release.The splash of water as the bomb bounces is really well done.
Not as good as Simon Smiths 'The Dambusters' though IMPO.

[minter]

interesting like to see that especially if its from a different perspective,i think every professional artist has done this subject and cant see why no disrespect to the guys that flew the raid

[Agent X20]

You cant see why.. ?? Its cos that and the BoB outsell everything else....

[minter]

i suppose if your doing it commercially then yes its gotta be done

[david cotton]

Looking at 2 Taylor prints at the moment. Malta George Cross and The Battle Of Britain. Not sure which way to jump on this one. The Battle Of Britain is cheaper to buy, but the Malta one just looks twice as good (and twice the price). Any Advice :unsure:

[shuttle]

Why don't you just commission Minter? When the forum gets its act together and does its own commission I think he will be doing the box art! :D :D

:eek: Shuttle

[eismeer]

When the forum gets its act together and does its own commission I think he will be doing the box art! Shuttle

Both excellent suggestions shuttle, should be the start of a new thread :)

[The Defiant Man]

Why don't you just commission Minter? When the forum gets its act together and does its own commission I think he will be doing the box art! :D :D

:eek: Shuttle
You keep going on about a forum commission and you'll end up getting demoted back to the ranks when CFBC finds out.....:eek: :D :p

[prune]

Looking at 2 Taylor prints at the moment. Malta George Cross and The Battle Of Britain. Not sure which way to jump on this one. The Battle Of Britain is cheaper to buy, but the Malta one just looks twice as good (and twice the price). Any Advice :unsure:
I've got all of Taylors Battle of Britain prints except that one dc, the composition just doesn't do it for me.
He's painted the Spit from every angle, including the unflattering angles, this is one of them IMPO. And I reckon he used a Corgi Spit as the model, no dihedral:D
Agree the Malta one looks good.

[david cotton]

I've got all of Taylors Battle of Britain prints except that one dc, the composition just doesn't do it for me.
He's painted the Spit from every angle, including the unflattering angles, this is one of them IMPO. And I reckon he used a Corgi Spit as the model, no dihedral:D
Agree the Malta one looks good.

I like the BoB print because it's over Dover and you can see loads of ground detail. I live near Dover, so there is local interest for me:)

[prune]

I like the BoB print because it's over Dover and you can see loads of ground detail. I live near Dover, so there is local interest for me:)
A Taylor B.o.B print over Dover would have been a must have for me, if only he had painted the Spit at a more flattering angle, something like his sons recent effort with the Spit and the white cliffs.

[david cotton]

A Taylor B.o.B print over Dover would have been a must have for me, if only he had painted the Spit at a more flattering angle, something like his sons recent effort with the Spit and the white cliffs.

I know the one you mean :) Looks very much like Trudgian's "One Off Smartly".... one I will get one day :D

[minter]

I've got all of Taylors Battle of Britain prints except that one dc, the composition just doesn't do it for me.
He's painted the Spit from every angle, including the unflattering angles, this is one of them IMPO. And I reckon he used a Corgi Spit as the model, no dihedral:D
Agree the Malta one looks good.

hit the nail on the head there mate,the wing angle looks dreadful,but hes the expert....for a real beaut of a BoB print his "height of the battle" featuring sailor malan and harbourne stephen is second to none.......the malta one is exceptional too the ground detail is WoW!

[minter]

Why don't you just commission Minter? When the forum gets its act together and does its own commission I think he will be doing the box art! :D :D

:eek: Shuttle

thanks....i think

[prune]

I'd forgotten about another Taylor Battle of Britain print I didn't buy,for the same reason.
A Time For Heroes, the one with Spits flying over St.Michaels Mount in Cornwall. That I think is his worst Spitfire painting.
Cornwall doesn't spring to mind when you think Battle of Britain, but it gave him the excuse for a nice landscape picture:rolleyes:

[david cotton]

I'd forgotten about another Taylor Battle of Britain print I didn't buy,for the same reason.
A Time For Heroes, the one with Spits flying over St.Michaels Mount in Cornwall. That I think it is his worst Spitfire painting.
Cornwall doesn't spring to mind when you think Battle of Britain, but it gave him the excuse for a nice landscape picture:rolleyes:

The BoB is on ebay BIN for £99

[strix1998]

Have two framed pieces which are to large to hang -will be putting them on Ebay at some stage but thought I'd mention them on the forum first...

The two titles are
Abbeville Boys Me109s signed Adolf Galland Copy 205/1250
Swansong long-nosed FW190s signed by Gunther Rall Copy 786/1250

Please pm me if of interest as framed could bring to DX on 17/3

[Delta Zulu]

My name is Delta Zulu and I am a recovered addict who once collected prints, have 50-60 hanging on the walls and stopped for lack of room(& money). 9 months ago I stumbled across diecast and am now addicted to it.
I try to match the model with one of my prints, for example, Corgi's 1/32 Bader Hurri with a print I have issued for the benefit of the BOB Museum on his 70th birthday. It's a profile of LE-D serial V7467 and the model is identical. I wondered if they used the print as a model?
I have Dambusters signed by MIck Martin, Lancaster signed by Barnes Wallis and Friday the 13th signed by Arthiur Harris. I need a Lanc and am awaiting Corgi's S&S, am aware of the controversy re the turret but will take what comes. If Friday comes out I'll get it
Ball-point vs. pencil, Print Council some years ago mandated pencil and even specified what lead nr. to use, this was to thwart copiers. I'll relate my experience with General Galland on use of felt-tip vs. pencil in a later post. You are a nice bunch, informative and witty. Delta Zulu

[Red 2]

Delta Zulu,

Warmest welcome to the forum. Addicts of all aviation (and even wheeled/tracked land jobbie) persuasions welcome here as long as they are certifiable!:D Allows them to fit in with the rest of us. Hope you enjoy yourself, all comments/friendly banter gratefully received.

I am filled with admiration for your collection policy...prints and models to match. :cool As one who struggles to contemplate where a single extra print would go (the ever watchful Mrs Red 2 has already issued a warning re wall space:D ), I am ever so jealous although I am also in a very small way on the look out for decent prints. To get wall space, I have 3 criteria:-

1) Accuracy of aircraft rendition. Funny how many prints from whoever just miss by 1% that 'wow' factor just because of a single angle/colour not feeling right etc.

2) Good/interesting background

3) Pref not a full scale battle scene otherwise no chance of getting it hung as long as Mrs Red 2 is in control.

Re models etc needed, can always post a swap request on the forum. Which Lancs are you after from the Corgi range?

Happy posting!

[prune]

I have 2 Robert Taylors to sell,

Cloud Companions...Lancaster/Mosquito. Framed

Broken Silence...Mosquito. Unframed,stored flat

Pm me if interested.

[Delta Zulu]

Red 2. Thanks for the gracious welcome. My first print came from England, then I got a few from the BOB Museum. I mentioned Bader's Hurri but neglected to ID the artist, Keith Broomfield, who also did a Spit profile commemorating the 40th Anniversary of the BOB. This was published in 1980 and has the signatures of 23 BOB pilots, I particularly prize it because Wing Commander Lord Dowding of Bentley Priory signed it and I suspect it's the only print he ever signed.
I then went thru the period as described by a previous poster where Taylor was doing small prints(24"x18"), unnumbered, unsigned by Taylor BUT signed by Bader, Tuck and Galland among others.These sold for $25, how could anyone resist those.
Re the Lanc. Awaiting the S&S Corgi and see what that's like.
I admire your criteria for buying and hanging a print and cannot help but envy all of the posters on avart and diecast who make mention of those who try to help them fend off their unnatural cravings. There was no Mrs. Delta Zulu and as a result I ran amok>

[Delta Zulu]

In #62 I made ref to Dowding signing an edition in support of the BOB and said I thought it was probably the only one he ever signed.
In #59 I made ref to Arthur Harris and Barnes Wallis in signing for the RAF Museum Appeal and the same goes for them, they were not signing prints left and right. I know, it's trivial but it's been bugging me and I found my copy of "Bomber Harris' by Henry Probert who mentions their signing. No more, I promise.

[prune]

That Dowding signature is a real rarity DZ,Harris signed a bit more stuff, at least one Taylor and a Cuneo Halifax print.

[Agent X20]

This was published in 1980 and has the signatures of 23 BOB pilots, I particularly prize it because Wing Commander Lord Dowding of Bentley Priory signed it and I suspect it's the only print he ever signed.>

Good rarity.......

Sorry old froot.. Dowding was dead 15/2/1970.......

Harris signed quite a lot of stuff, the problem in those days is that it wasnt recorded as well as it might have been, some like the 'limping home lancaster' dont seem to get a mention anywhere.... ( someone will now find it in all its glory)

Thing is too there were massive 'overruns' I remember picking up a couple of limited edition Taylors in the mid eighties of some guy who had a blo*dy great loose pile of the same print.. ok they were not the signed ones, but at £2... who cares...

In addition there are many many forged copies, especially 'frail' old man signatures...

Best one was a Bader signed print dated 1985.. but not as good as yer Dowding..:wacko:

[prune]

Good rarity.......

Sorry old froot.. Dowding was dead 15/2/1970.......



Ha Ha.... wondered when someone would spot that:LOL:
It could be the signature of his son, who flew spitfires with 74 squadron in the Battle.

[Delta Zulu]

What a hilarious exchange, DZ(the pigeon)with you two sharing the kill. I bought this at Hendon on 28-5-81 for 40 pounds, also picked up a profile of a Lanc signed by surviving members of 617 Sqdn. at same price. The cert lists Wing Commander Lord Dowding of Bentley Priory 74 Sqdn as a signer. OK, I knew Dowding didn't pilot a plane then but figured it as just being a sign of respect and maybe he'd flown with 74 at some time.
The sig is simply 'Dowding' with no first name or initial, if it was Derek OR if it wasn't for the title I wouldn't have thought the sign as that of THE Dowding.
Does the title pass on to Derek? It wasn't until Prune mentioned Derek at 74 Sqdn. that I thought of this explanation. What a set-up:
#64 Prune. That Dowding signature is a real rarity, DZ.
#65 X20 Sorry old froot, Dowding was dead 15/2/1970.
#66 Prune Ha Ha.... wondered when someone would spot that.
The only book I have is The Man Who Won The Battle of Britain by Robert Wright in 1969.
Re the Lanc print. Some years ago the Canadians brought their Lanc to St. Paul and I was so overwhelmed at the opportunity to see it that I went home and got the print and gave it to them. Naturally they were aware of the print and had several but they'd auction this one off.

[Delta Zulu]

Prune & X20. A week is long enough to realize that my feeble attempt at matching your wit is a failure. You still break me up Prune when I look at your posts. No sarcasm intended in my response.

[Delta Zulu]

Thread was aviation art but you probably have to post inane bits like the above to maintain your 12.5 daily average. At 80 I am not a boy, spent 2 years in Cyprus 54 to 56 when Suez brewed up and watched and listened to the Canberras going down and returning. I bought the Canberra and Meteor by Corgi. Delta Zulu ejects, has a good chute!

[Delta Zulu]

Agent X-20. How sad, somehow your post which prompted my response was deleted but luckily I printed out the thread so as a gesture of courtesy will print it so as to provide continuity of dialogue.
Quote
Agent X-20
Air Chief Marshal
I was being perfectly serious..!!!..(3 smiles)
Now be a good boy and send me the money for that Douglas Barder*signed denture holder I sent you.
c Lofty Agent Enterprises 2007
Agent X20
End quote.
As I said previously I cannot hope to match your witticism.
Delta Zulu

[Martin Bull]

DZ's earlier mention of the Taylor 'Dambusters' print signed by Mick Martin has prompted me to dig my copy out of the archives.

I bought it quite cheaply on evilbay two or three years ago : it's slightly creased and there's a small damp-stain to one corner of the white background. I was pleased to get it as it's not too easy to find these days and I didn't feel like paying a fortune ! :o

As it's creased I may get a suitable clip-frame and display it with my Corgi Dambuster Lanc......

[Agent X20]

Whatever you do... dont store them in the cardboard tubes that they were originally posted in... over time whatever was in the tube construction (i.e. the glue holding the tube together) 'seeps' into the print...

[strix1998]

Better sellers will always wrap prints both sides in acid free tissue before putting in the tube. Prints should always be removed from the tube asap after receipt...................

[prune]

I had no trouble with my print after 20 years in a tube,just put plenty of glue on the back and masking tape around the edge (after cutting the white border off) before framing:eek: ;)

[Martin Bull]

Good advice chaps, but my Dambuster print has just been kept loosely-rolled in a dusty corner since I bought it. A pristine collectors item it isn't, but I reckon with a little bit of TLC it may make a passable display item.....:)

[Red 2]

Whatever you do... dont store them in the cardboard tubes that they were originally posted in... over time whatever was in the tube construction (i.e. the glue holding the tube together) 'seeps' into the print...

EEK..:eek: :eek: ...only have a couple of 'tubed' prints but thanks for the warning. Good excuse to get them framed.

[Agent X20]

If they were the early Military Gallary ones, especially the prints from the Telegraph ... then best get em out the tubes... mind you thats gotta be nearly 30 years ago now...

[strix1998]

Interesting copy of Taylor's Swansong long nosed FW190 s print on Ebay at the moment item 170099810381.
Whilst the main print issue was signed by Gunter Rall this copy is one of eight signed by 56 Knight's Cross Dayfighter holders some incredible names with a BIN price of $14,995 to match -current bid 1,000ish reserve not met

[Agent X20]

That print is so so disapointing if you have seen the original.. for some reason the print has that yellow tinge that a lot of Taylors prints at that time had.. the original I recollect never did..

still one of my favourite Taylors though..

[strix1998]

That print is so so disapointing if you have seen the original.. for some reason the print has that yellow tinge that a lot of Taylors prints at that time had.. the original I recollect never did..

still one of my favourite Taylors though..

But you can take the edge off the yellowish appearance by using a very dark olive mount seems to tone it down visually..........

[Agent X20]

Thats sounds like a Mrs Agent-ism...:D

[Martin Bull]

Popped in to a favourite s/hand bookshop today and found a lovely copy of 'The Air Combat Paintings Of Robert Taylor', a massive book published in 1987 and full of gorgeous reproductions of stuff like ' Dambusters', ' Battle Of Taranto', 'JG-52', 'Tangmere Wing', etc etc

Super stuff to look through and for only a t*nn*r.....:cool:

[minter]

what!! no dancing nana!

[Martin Bull]

No...well...maybe if it'd been a f*v*r...it is a nice book, though...oh, all right then http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/images/smilies/nana2.gif

[minter]

there you go, :LOL: i'm still after his Vol V book, have the other 4

[prune]

Taylors got a nice BoB print coming out with the new Tom Dalton Morgan book,which was commissioned as the cover(they should have asked Mints;) ).Its being launched at the May 20th Duxford show.

[david cotton]

Taylors got a nice BoB print coming out with the new Tom Dalton Morgan book,which was commissioned as the cover(they should have asked Mints;) ).Its being launched at the May 20th Duxford show.

I was looking forward to the May 20 Duxford bash...... but I am getting sent away on the 16 :( . Still, you never know, may get lucky and have the trip cancelled.:)

Trouble with these events, is that the cost goes out of control. Prints and Diecasts are not cheap...... but they are so tempting :o

[minter]

Taylors got a nice BoB print coming out with the new Tom Dalton Morgan book,which was commissioned as the cover(they should have asked Mints;) )

nah, i'm cr@p at hurris

[prune]

Trouble with these events, is that the cost goes out of control. Prints and Diecasts are not cheap...... but they are so tempting :o

Know what you mean dc, have cut back on the prints in the last few years, but can't resist a good BoB print.
Pete Brothers is due to be there,so that'll cost me £20 to get his sig. in my men of the BoB book.

[david cotton]

Know what you mean dc, have cut back on the prints in the last few years, but can't resist a good BoB print.
Pete Brothers is due to be there,so that'll cost me £20 to get his sig. in my men of the BoB book.


Have you been up the BoB musiem at Hawkinge. They have nearly all the Robert Taylor BoB prints on display. :)

[prune]

Have you been up the BoB musiem at Hawkinge. They have nearly all the Robert Taylor BoB prints on display. :)

No,its the one place I really have got to get to,been to the museum Shoreham a couple of times though.

[david cotton]

No,its the one place I really have got to get to,been to the museum Shoreham a couple of times though.

Give me a nod if you want company, when you do go..... I only live a mile or so from it :)

[Jimbo27]

there you go, :LOL: i'm still after his Vol V book, have the other 4

Snap!

You don't see many of them about either...!

[minter]

http://www.militarygallery.com/dbimages/large/RT262.jpg with all the anticipation of corgis tiffie tankbuster you could have this new taylor print to sit above it, i like this one, much better than his last one "Horrido" IMPO

[JackShit8]

Hello Mints!! What an amazing Robert Taylor print!! I saw it here earlier today, but can't find a copy for sale...............is it out yet?/

JackShit8

[strix1998]

Hello Mints!! What an amazing Robert Taylor print!! I saw it here earlier today, but can't find a copy for sale...............is it out yet?/

JackShit8

All of the major stockists have it checkout amongst others www.oliversart.com...........

[minter]

Hello Mints!! What an amazing Robert Taylor print!! I saw it here earlier today, but can't find a copy for sale...............is it out yet?/

JackShit8

i think so check out the aces high gallery

[Martin Bull]

Gosh yes, that's a lovely print :cool: : right up my street ! But I only have room on my walls for one 'Falaise' print ( Wootton's 'Rocket-Firing Typhoons' multi-signed edition ) and the old bank balance has taken a real battering recently......:o

[Martin Bull]

Just today received the leaflet for the new Taylor Typhoon print - I must say that it really does look very :cool: :cool: :cool: indeed. There's also a 'Wittmann' drawing portfolio to go with it if you've another £500 lying around.....:(

[Tiffie K N-L]

Hello Guys its been awhile, just saw this today for the first time and I must say that is a really great looking print. I dont know where I would put it and Mrs Tiffie would kill me, if she only new what money I had in the Typhoons over the Rhine frameing :rolleyes:. And I am ready to pick up a few pieces of diecast boy do I need to hit the lottery. This print is really going to intice me especialy with the signature`s that are on it.:)

[Wolster]

Interesting subject and I would love to get some of these prints but space and Mrs Wolster doesn't allow. I do have one print, not displayed, of David Lord VC's Dak.

Signed by Pilot officer Harry King, Major General Roy Urquhart and John Frost amongst others.

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w48/wolster2002/DC3.jpg

:cool

[dilligafocau]

Interesting subject and I would love to get some of these prints but space and Mrs Wolster doesn't allow. I do have one print, not displayed, of David Lord VC's Dak.

Signed by Pilot officer Harry King, Major General Roy Urquhart and John Frost amongst others.

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w48/wolster2002/DC3.jpg

:cool

Nicer than my Ertl version

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff93/dilligafocau/Dakota.jpg

[strix1998]

Nicer than my Ertl version

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff93/dilligafocau/Dakota.jpg

But you did say that you were not expecting too much of the ERTL model..................

[minter]

Hello Guys its been awhile, just saw this today for the first time and I must say that is a really great looking print. I dont know where I would put it and Mrs Tiffie would kill me, if she only new what money I had in the Typhoons over the Rhine frameing :rolleyes:. And I am ready to pick up a few pieces of diecast boy do I need to hit the lottery. This print is really going to intice me especialy with the signature`s that are on it.:)

best one hes done for a while, didnt think much of horrido or the dambuster one, but just goes to show hes still got it

[dilligafocau]

But you did say that you were not expecting too much of the ERTL model..................


and it delivered in not much in spades :D

I'll keep it around 'til Corgi make a 'Market Garden' Dak :)

[Martin Bull]

....Mrs Tiffie would kill me.... boy do I need to hit the lottery. This print is really going to intice me ....

I wondered when T K N-L would spot this....better start saving up, your life just won't be complete without this one ! ;) :LOL:

[Tiffie K N-L]

best one hes done for a while, didnt think much of horrido or the dambuster one, but just goes to show hes still got it

I agree but which dambuster one the Impossible mission or Breaching the Eder Dam? the Impossible mission print I like but I dont care for Breaching the Eder.

[Tiffie K N-L]

I wondered when T K N-L would spot this....better start saving up, your life just won't be complete without this one ! ;) :LOL:

Your totaly right MB! and now that I have a shorter commute to work now and no tolls I am saving a lot of dosh per month. I think this is possible and with Christmas comeing up I will hit Mrs Tiffie up for some donations,she has to understand.:rolleyes:

[minter]

I agree but which dambuster one the Impossible mission or Breaching the Eder Dam? the Impossible mission print I like but I dont care for Breaching the Eder.

yes breaching the Eder..its a bit http://tcwozere.co.uk/smileys/blyawn.gif a lot of paintings of the dams raid obviously show the dams going up, or down, a change would have been showing them on the way over crossing the dutch coast, or even Gibson returning, just coming in to land or something,

[Agent X20]

Breaching the Eder is surely '''wrong'''.. the Lanc would have been well gone by the time the bomb went bang..

[chris]

But you did say that you were not expecting too much of the ERTL model..................



Looks like a flying corn cob :LOL:

[minter]

Breaching the Eder is surely '''wrong'''.. the Lanc would have been well gone by the time the bomb went bang..

good point, artisitc license i think they call it :D

[dilligafocau]

Looks like a flying corn cob :LOL:

Hence the name 'Market Garden' :)

[Agent X20]

good point, artisitc license i think they call it :D.. always find that once you have noticed something like that, it can spoil the picture.. like many of the fighters.. if you follow the flightline through then in the next micro second they would collide.. gunfire is another where in reality to get the bullet 'trail', the subject firing would be stationery..:(

hey ho..

[david cotton]

http://www.militarygallery.com/dbimages/large/RT262.jpg with all the anticipation of corgis tiffie tankbuster you could have this new taylor print to sit above it, i like this one, much better than his last one "Horrido" IMPO


I like the print, but it needs more German Armour on the ground :(

Robert Taylor seems to shy away from showing tanks in this paintings...... prefers to complement them with ships and subs :) .

At the moment I am well into prints that show tanks. My wife even like "The Cold Front" and "Tigers In Normandy". :)

[Martin Bull]

I like the print, but it needs more German Armour on the ground :(


A very valid point...the ground does look rather bare for the Falaise Gap....

Reminds me of when Frank Wootton painted 'Rocket Firing Typhoons' on the spot...he showed it to the CO of the 2nd TAF Squadron he was with who looked at it and grunted : 'Not enough dead Germans.....'

[minter]

I like the print, but it needs more German Armour on the ground :(

Robert Taylor seems to shy away from showing tanks in this paintings...... prefers to complement them with ships and subs :) .


yes that little field to the bottom right is crying out for a couple of panthers

[Grim Reaper]

Just got a free calander with a different Robert Taylor print for each month-biggrin-

[david cotton]

Just taken my latest Robert Taylor print to be framed with preservation glass.......another £145 gone :eek: .

Preservation glass is a bit like Viagra :) It allows you to enjoy it .... without fading :)

The print is "Schweinfurt - The Second Mission" and I'm really looking forward to getting this one on the wall.

Wife is wondering why I am so keen to finish decorating the hall way......simple, I need the picture hanging space :)

[david cotton]

Here it is .....my latest Robert Taylor print.....many thanks to Prune for his help :)

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/CIMG1357.jpg

[Martin Bull]

Very nice indeed - I like that....:cool:

[david cotton]

Very nice indeed - I like that....:cool:

Thanks MB :) The print has a lot of depth to it as well. Looks first rate on the wall. :)

[CFBC]

Thanks MB :) The print has a lot of depth to it as well. Looks first rate on the wall. :)

Looks :cool DC.

Just got a free calander with a different Robert Taylor print for each month-biggrin-

Yep! Likewise Grim... Corsairs flying a downed Zero for February... :cool

[minter]

great painting,oh to have a tenth of the talent :o

[Grim Reaper]

Yep! Likewise Grim... Corsairs flying a downed Zero for February... :cool

Same one prints are :cool: mine is from Houchin Aerospace

[david cotton]

This is the beginning of my change over to Combat Prints.

I also want to change the frames on a number of my prints.

I am going to use the preservation glass from some of my old framed prints, when I get some of the new prints framed. I will then sell the old print without the frame on Ebay.

Some of my none action prints will stay, if they are real good. For example, "The Cold Front", "Their Finest Hour" and "Tigers In Normandy" by Trudgian will be staying.

In fact, if its got a Tank in it, I will keep it :D

With both my Diecast Collection and Print Collection, I am trying to prune back to what I really want.:)

[Grim Reaper]

With both my Diecast Collection and Print Collection, I am trying to prune back to what I really want.:)

What has poor old prune done to upset you DC :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

[CFBC]

Same one prints are :cool: mine is from Houchin Aerospace

Mine was from my old company I used to work for. They always get an aviation art calendar done and the Sales Manager knew I liked aviation so he rang me up and offered me a couple! :cool

[Tiffie K N-L]

Here it is .....my latest Robert Taylor print.....many thanks to Prune for his help :)

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/CIMG1357.jpg

Very nice! DC I like that a lot.:cool:

[david cotton]

It looks even better on the wall. Its the depth of the painting that does it. Its almost like looking out the tail gunner poistion of a bomber that is ahead.

When it first came, I thought it was a good print, but I was looking at it too near. Once up on the wall, and viewed from about 4 or 5 feet away, its a spectacular print.

[david cotton]

Just taken my Trudgian "Hunters of the Reich" out of its frame. Its off to Ebay as I don't like it.....not sure why I got it......think it was a set with "Moon light Hunter".

This left the frame and its preservation glass free for use. As luck would have it, my "Robert Taylor" Typhoon attack fits right into the frame....like a glove in fact. Most of us have seen the latest Typhoon print from Robert Taylor.....and a mighty fine print it is to. However, Typhoon Attck was his first Typhoon painting.....and it a little cracker. Not as good as his later works for sure, but I like it.

Well here it is....new frame an all :)

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/CIMG1359.jpg

[david cotton]

The shaping of the collection is underway.

Robert Taylors "Battle Of Britain VC" is up for sale on Ebay......honest seller :D

I'm also selling my Trudgian "Night Hunters Of The Reich" because.....its ruddy awful......what was he thinking :unsure: ...what was I thinking when I bought it :eek: ......must of been on drugs :wacko:

Still have not had the ba11s to put my Aces On The Western front up yet.......I am about to unframe it....I have a use for the glass :)

[Grim Reaper]

DC look at this one for your Eric Kightly

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Robert-Taylor-BATTLE-OF-BRITAIN-VC_W0QQitemZ180212760904QQihZ008QQcategoryZ360QQss PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[david cotton]

DC look at this one for your Eric Kightly

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Robert-Taylor-BATTLE-OF-BRITAIN-VC_W0QQitemZ180212760904QQihZ008QQcategoryZ360QQss PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Saw that one......not my style to sell like that :o

The print is old and I paid £20 for it (with frame). I have been as honest as I can be, the person who buys it will not be disapointed and I will not feel like a b4stard :)

[david cotton]

Oh well " Aces On The Western Front" is now on Ebay.

One of those pictures that the wife liked, but never really hit the spot for me :(

Got a bit of a problem with border fade, but I hope the price will attract the buyers. It is one of his good sellers and is attractive to a wide range of people.

This one was an edition of 1250, a number you don't see these days. :eek:

[david cotton]

Looks like my Aces On Western Front is going to sell :) I have a bidder.......hope he buys it cause I have already spent the money on another Robert Taylor Print :D

I also have a bid on my Nicolas Trudgian print........ maybe I shall sell the companion print to go with it .......or offer it to the buyer outside of E:eek: Bay.

The next print to land at Cotton Towers, should be "No Turning Back", depicting a Lancaster under attack by a Fw190.......not just any Lanc...its Bill Reid earning his VC :cool: ....balls of steel :cool:

I am aiming to get "Savage Skies " and "Malta GC" into my collection to.
Savage skies has the B24 and Fw190D and I have neither of these in my existing prints.:) Malta GC has fantastic ground detail and a feel of action that is fantastic.:)

[david cotton]

Just put my damaged MORAL SUPPORT print on Ebay. I have started it at £5.....any bets on what it will get to. :unsure:

[david cotton]

DC look at this one for your Eric Kightly

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Robert-Taylor-BATTLE-OF-BRITAIN-VC_W0QQitemZ180212760904QQihZ008QQcategoryZ360QQss PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

He wanted too much for it.....it did not sell. :( Saying that, I have no bids on mine yet :eek: However, I do have seven watchers.....probably all DAF members just watching out of interest :rolleyes:

[Martin Bull]

I have no bids on mine yet :eek:

Hey - there's a bid !! :eek: ( Not that I'm watching it, or anything...just happened to be walking past.....:o :o :o )

[david cotton]

Hey - there's a bid !! :eek: ( Not that I'm watching it, or anything...just happened to be walking past.....:o :o :o )

You wicked man.......there's no bid on my BoB VC......got me all excited :(

You will have to bid on it now, to make up for your evil

[Martin Bull]

Sorry...thought you meant the rubbish print.....:o

[david cotton]

Sorry...thought you meant the rubbish print.....:o

What that fine Hurricane print with minor damage:rolleyes: ....a bargin for sure !

[david cotton]

10 mins left on my Aces On The Western front.......starting to worry now.
Still only £175 and one bid :( ....... 9 watchers......all DAF :rolleyes:

[Martin Bull]

I missed all the fun on that one ! :LOL:

[david cotton]

I missed all the fun on that one ! :LOL:

It was a terrible ......£175 finishing bid......and the buyer is in Germany......and I have no pay pal :eek:

I am using the preservation glass from this print on one of my new prints. The glass cost me £35 to 15 years ago, it is now woth £70. The glass is a better investment than the print :LOL:

[Martin Bull]

It was a terrible ......£175 finishing bid......and the buyer is in Germany......and I have no pay pal :eek:


The way the £'s going, better get the money in quick :eek: ...or he'll end up paying about 15 Euros for your print.....:unsure:

[david cotton]

No Turning Back is back from the framers.....and it looks good :)

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/CIMG1373.jpg

[Grim Reaper]

No Turning Back is back from the framers.....and it looks good :)

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/CIMG1373.jpg

That is one :cool print DC you almost think you are right there

[david cotton]

That is one :cool print DC you almost think you are right there

It is very nice, but you need a good light to see it at its best :) .....I need to improve the lighting in the room it is displayed in, otherwise it looks to dark.

I am very much into bombers at the moment. I have a feel the need for a bit on "Savage Skies next". :D

My damaged morel support has reached nearly £9 :eek: And I was going to chuck it in the bin.:eek:

[Dutchie]

This looks very good DC:cool:

[Daywalker]

Hi @ all,

Have purchased the following prints in the last few months:
Ice Warriors - Nicolas Trudgian
Eagles on the Channel Front - Robert Taylor
Tigers in Normandy - Nicolas Trudgian
Warrior and the Wolfpack - John Shaw
Glorious Summer - Robert Taylor
Knights Move - Robert Taylor
Front Line Hurricanes - Robert Taylor
Snow Warriors - Nicolas Trudgian
Dragons at Columbert - Nicolas Trudgian
High Summer High Battle - Nicolas Trudgian

Will took a while till they coming back from framing. Cant wait to hang them on my wall.

Regards
Daywalker

[david cotton]

Hi @ all,

Have purchased the following prints in the last few months:
Ice Warriors - Nicolas Trudgian
Eagles on the Channel Front - Robert Taylor
Tigers in Normandy - Nicolas Trudgian
Warrior and the Wolfpack - John Shaw
Glorious Summer - Robert Taylor
Knights Move - Robert Taylor
Front Line Hurricanes - Robert Taylor
Snow Warriors - Nicolas Trudgian
Dragons at Columbert - Nicolas Trudgian
High Summer High Battle - Nicolas Trudgian

Will took a while till they coming back from framing. Cant wait to hang them on my wall.

Regards
Daywalker


Thats a lot of prints to get framed all at once :eek: Very much a mixed bag....why did you choose them :unsure:

[Daywalker]

Cause i like them all and i have the space to display them. Wish i had the older prints from Taylor and Trudgian.


Thats a lot of prints to get framed all at once :eek: Very much a mixed bag....why did you choose them :unsure:

[david cotton]

Wish i had the older prints from Taylor and Trudgian.

I am the other way round at the moment.:) It is the older prints that I am less keen on. I like Taylors newer stuff with combat action. I like Trudgian 's stuff which features tanks

Here are some of the prints I have, but tend not to display, as they lack action

After The Battle
Gathering Storm
Hunters In The Desert
Dragons of Colombert
Into The Cloak Of Darkness

They are nice prints, but they lack action.

The last 4 Trudgian prints I purchased were all tank ones
Ardene Offencive
Thunderbolts and Lightnings
Tigers in Normandy (shame he sodded up the wheels :( )
Clash Of Steel

I am slowly getting my prints re-framed at the moment. However, I can reuse the preservation glass, which keeps the price down :)

[Martin Bull]

Cause i like them all .....

I think, where prints are concerned, that's as good a reason as any ! :)

[Daywalker]

I am the other way round at the moment.:) It is the older prints that I am less keen on. I like Taylors newer stuff with combat action. I like Trudgian 's stuff which features tanks

Here are some of the prints I have, but tend not to display, as they lack action

After The Battle
Gathering Storm
Hunters In The Desert
Dragons of Colombert
Into The Cloak Of Darkness

They are nice prints, but they lack action.

"Hunters in the Desert" not on display:eek: What a fabulous looking print if you dont want it to display you can send the print to me:LOL:

[david cotton]

"Hunters in the Desert" not on display:eek: What a fabulous looking print if you dont want it to display you can send the print to me:LOL:

It is a nice print, but it also looks out of place in all the rooms in my house.
I saw it come up quite a few times on Ebay in the last few weeks. Looks like it only gets about £130 when sold.

My damaged Moral Support got £22 in the end :eek: The chap who won it only wants the signatures, and has asjed me to cut them out and send them in a letter. Smart chap, because the print is damaged real bad, and would be a waste of postage. :)

[prune]

Just spotted this very rare Taylor print on ebay,don't remember ever seeing this one
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/chrisflanagan/SeaFury.jpg

[david cotton]

Just spotted this very rare Taylor print on ebay,don't remember ever seeing this one
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/chrisflanagan/SeaFury.jpg

I saw that to, and I have never seen it before. Is it definetly a Taylor :unsure:

[strix1998]

I saw that to, and I have never seen it before. Is it definetly a Taylor :unsure:

never seen it before but bet it goes well bid...................

[minter]

Is it definetly a Taylor :unsure:

never seen it before, going by the plane alone might have said no, but the figure looks like his style

[Agent X20]

.. and so does the signature in the bottom left hand corner...

[minter]

saw that, could be a forgery

[Agent X20]

what .. a Douglas Barder.............:eek: :eek: :eek:

[prune]

Seller says it was an edition of only 250 published in 1984,strange it wasn't in any of his books.

[minter]

nooooo, a er......whatisname......garland

[Daywalker]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250221440145&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

[prune]

Taylors latest, 'Eagle Force' is out.To me it's a typical 'the wife will like it' style of print, Spitfires with a vivid sunset.Wish he'd be more daring,but they know what sells.
What gets me about the companion print idea,is you end up with a great signature like James Goodson not being on the main print along with Don Blakeslee.

[Agent X20]

Look at it quickly, that background, you might think it to be a Coulson...:unsure: Doesnt really inspire..looks a bit underexposed..:D

[prune]

Look at it quickly, that background, you might think it to be a Coulson...

Then you notice the Spitfire looks right,so you know it can't be a Coulson:LOL: (only thinking of Coulsons latest efforts)

[Agent X20]

Totally ... agree... the last few Coulson Spifires seem to have taken on a 'coulsonesque' look about them.... The original 80's ones were by far the best..

Mind you there have been a few appalling Taylor ones..

[minter]

its nice but he must be able to do one of these fairly quickly,theres not much too it, you could almost take the planes out and still be good.When RT ups the ante,ie his Typhoon one no one can touch him....this might sound cruel but i dont rate coulson much, his stuff always looks the same to me, although i liked his prototype spit one

[Agent X20]

I think in a nutshell that Taylor has improved and the likes of others have certainly upped the game, IMHO Coulson was the best but that was early eighties and really he hasnt changed since... ' Birth of a Legend ' is a classic but when the same background then featured in the next umpteen prints, even the supportive feel that enough is enough.. Suppose it all depends how you like your art..:D

[Martin Bull]

....this might sound cruel but i dont rate coulson much,

It's all a matter of opinion but I agree with you on this one, mints....

I have his 'Operation Jericho' which I like due to the subject and the signatures, but I've never been tempted by any other Coulson work......:(

[ascot]

I agree with minter on the Coulsons, I have splashed out on Eagle Force with the companion print, I prefer the companion print which will probably end up on the wall, the main print to me is a bonus.
Did any of you buy the Taylor print Those Valiant Few with 50 Battle of Britain RAF sig's what a bargain.

[david cotton]

My print Malta - George Cross arrived yesterday, and has been sent to the framers already. :)

I could only get a Malta Edition, with the Companion Print of HMS Illustrious in Grand Harbour, which I am not that keen on. Still, the Companion print has some very good signatures on it.

The main print is a great Taylor print, with lots of ground detail. The 2 main aircraft are in a very classic pose to :)

Shound get it back next Saturday, so will post a pic of it then.

Think its time to shove a couple of my older prints up on the bay :)

[david cotton]

I'm ebaying my Robert Taylor "Gathering Storm"..... Anyone like Fw190's , then this is the one for you.

Trouble is, its lost in a sea of cheapo Robert Taylor prints :eek: Some one is cutting up calanders and selling the pictures. The information on the items is a little sparse and it would be easy to make a mistake if you were not in the know :unsure:

[david cotton]

Well today I got Malta GC back for the framers. This is a great print , with lots of ground detail and action

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/CIMG1393.jpg

[minter]

a classic, looks very nicely framed DC :cool

[Hornchurch]

Well today I got Malta GC back for the framers.

D.C. what kind of dollars are they charging you, to have a typical sized (Large) 'Taylor' print framed ?????????

I have no idea - not the 1st clue, at what kinda (typical) rates they'd charge - but I'm interested to find out, as, since I moved, I have several Ronald Wong prints (& one in particular) that I'd like to have framed.

My Fave one (R.Wong) is depicting the 100th Bomb Group, with a B.17 Ghostly-image alongside a KC.135 of the 100th ARW at Mildenhall (which I bought at Mildenhall on an "Air-Fete" day, as they were known in 'them-days'

It's spent far too long in it's cardboard tube !!!!!!!!!!

The last time I framed a print myself, it was a Taylor print "Knight's Cross" featuring Hartmann shooting down an IL.2.
That was back in '89 & although I done a good job; it was a bleedin' headache (& with assistance !!!!!!!!!!!).

Now I'm older, I'd rather let a 'Framer' do the job - provided it's sensible money;) ......... hence the request of an accurate(ish) guideline figure ?

[david cotton]

D.C. what kind of dollars are they charging you, to have a typical sized (Large) 'Taylor' print framed ?????????
money;) ......... hence the request of an accurate(ish) guideline figure ?


To have a large Taylor print framed with a mount and Conservation Glass, costs me around £145. The conservation glass costs arond £75 of that :eek:

I have picked up some large Trudgian prints and event, already framed. The framed print was £120 and I know the print would of been around £85. So cheap framing is possible.

I have had Trudgian's The Cold front and Their Finest Hour framed in conservation glass. However ones like Tigers in Normandy, Ardenne Offensive, Clash Of Steal and Thuderbolts and Lightnings, I bought framed and would not bother changing the frame as the print will never be worth the effort.

A Taylor on the other hand will always get conservation glass, but I will not go mad even for a Taylor.
:)

[Hornchurch]

To have a large Taylor print framed with a mount and Conservation Glass, costs me around £145. The conservation glass costs arond £75 of that :eek:

A Taylor on the other hand will always get conservation glass, but I will not go mad even for a Taylor. :)

Jeez ! (Gulp !)

Many thanks for the reply.

My "Knight's Cross" has been taken-down & stored in reverse, out of sunlight, for some years now; so no fear of bleaching.

Mother Dear had bought me "Duel of Eagles" way back in the '70's when they were going for about £6.99 ordered direct from the newspapers.
I remember Agent.X.20 remarking about that period of time; when the Taylor stuff started out (via the "Military-Gallery") long before the prices, numbers & rarity factor made them escalate.
Never liked the "Duel of.." pic' (boring old '109 & Spit') so it languished, but I've still got it. Mum asked about it from time to time; then, long after I was married, she suggested buying one, as an 'investment'.
I was buying Flypast at the time ('89) & Taylor had just launched "Knight's Cross", so she bought that (seemed steep at the time; £165 = print only).

At Mildenhall Air Fete '98 saw it going for around £450, at 'Aces High'.
No frame; just the print :eek: .
God alone knows what it fetches nowadays ? YET there are SO many decent prints with numerous signatures fetching silly money.

Glass is dear enough, anyway; that 'conservation' glass you speak of, D.C. would prob' be worthwhile on some of the £500 plus prints.

Thank Gawd I never went down the Aviation print-collecting route myself.

Think I'll stick with a £ 30 Ronald Wong instead:D ;)

[prune]

Never liked the "Duel of.." pic' (boring old '109 & Spit') so it languished, but I've still got it.

And if it's in good nick it'll be one of the rarest Taylors of all,most (inc.mine) are faded to buggery:(

[Hornchurch]

And if it's in good nick it'll be one of the rarest Taylors of all, most (inc.mine) are faded to buggery:(

Thanx Prune = Mum just bought it as a well meaning present !!!!!!!!

£6.99 (IIRC !!!!!!!!)

I couldn't bring myself to tell her that Spitfires & '109's bored the **** off me (at 17 yrs old) & that I MUCH prefered Stirlings, Halifaxes, Wellingtons & Lanc's (blame that on TOO MUCH Airfix Black-plastic & Commando-books !).

Hence why it's (always) languished in the dark.

Only kept it cause of Galland's autograph :D

Almost Ten years ago (ish ?) I visited Capel-Le-Ferne & was suprised to see one ("Duel of Eagles") hanging in the visitor's centre.
Their's wasn't in good shape, & I remember remarking to my Wife "poor sods, they can have mine" !!!!!!!!!
Even asked about p/x'ing it with "Aces-High" (at said Mildenhall Air-Fete, in previous post) only to be told "they're ten a penny", so it sat in Carmel's Ford Granada-Scorpio, only to be bought home (& hidden !).

All the 'Experts' I speak to say....."the signatures fade on that print FADE !" (which they do)
So by sheer default - chucked in with general apathy for that particular print, mine is still 'Minto'.

When the weather bucks-up (if ever ?) I'll get my point & snap Digi'cam out & see if I can post a pic' or two ?
Both that and the Hartmann print are round parents house, at mo'.

I've just got Wong's "Panther On The Prowl-the road to Sarajevo" A.10 Warthog pic' hanging over the Fireplace, here :cool !!!!!!!!!!! (£30 from Air-Fete '98).

[david cotton]

Duel of Eagles is probably not on Archival paper or using modern fade resistant inks. If you display it, you may even need to go better than conservation glass. :unsure:

The signatures on Duel Of Eagles were not in pencil, so they fade. :eek:

[david cotton]

Have a read of this one on Ebay 300209919261 :wacko:

[Hornchurch]

Only kept it cause of Galland's autograph :D

When the weather bucks-up (if ever ?) I'll get my point & snap Digi'cam out & see if I can post a pic' or two ?



Duel of Eagles is probably not on Archival paper or using modern fade resistant inks.




And if it's in good nick it'll be one of the rarest Taylors of all - most (inc.mine) are faded to buggery:(

Tried to upload a few (ain't having it !) = it took one (sideways shot, LOL :D )

Over the next day or two, I'll try again (more time)...... & some shots of the signatures (close-up).

Meantime; if yer lying down, or stoned :cool

[CFBC]

Tried to upload a few (ain't having it !) = it took one (sideways shot, LOL :D )

Have a look here (http://forums.diecast-aviation.eu/showthread.php?t=6372) Mr HC and scroll down to post's 1 and 2. It might help. Forum uploading is "ok", but has some restrictions. :)

[minter]

notice anything familiar....

[Martin Bull]

I just received that flyer ( 'Arctic Hunters' ) and to be fair it's by Taylor Junior ( Richard ) rather than Senior.....

[Agent X20]

notice anything familiar.... Good artwork package would turn ii into i...... the av art sceme is doing very little for me these days..:(

[minter]

I just received that flyer ( 'Arctic Hunters' ) and to be fair it's by Taylor Junior ( Richard ) rather than Senior.....

yes beg our pardon, i forgot to mention that:o

[eismeer]

notice anything familiar....

I like it, not only that, they are Jg5 birds as well:cool:

[david cotton]

Here are the latest editions to my collection. I think Greycap Leader, is on of Taylor's best.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/CIMG1414.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/CIMG1413.jpg

[minter]

yes very nice,..my pesonal favourite,...closing the gap.....awesome :cool

[eismeer]

Very nice prints DC:cool:

What ruins it for me though is he is downing a 190:D

[david cotton]

Very nice prints DC:cool:

What ruins it for me though is he is downing a 190:D

The Fw190 is a cracking looking aircraft..... I think I might have to get a copy of Richard Taylors Ramraiders.

The next print that I am after is the Most Memorable Day, showing Galland downing a Blenhem. This print has it all for me, action, 109F and the Blenheim.

At the moment my Diecast collecting is taking a back seat, while I restructure my print collection.

[minter]

The Fw190 is a cracking looking aircraft..... I think I might have to get a copy of Richard Taylors Ramraiders.

The next print that I am after is the Most Memorable Day, showing Galland downing a Blenhem. This print has it all for me, action, 109F and the Blenheim.

At the moment my Diecast collecting is taking a back seat, while I restructure my print collection.

a man after my own heart, ......and most memorable day is a fine painting,:)

[strix1998]

The Fw190 is a cracking looking aircraft..... I think I might have to get a copy of Richard Taylors Ramraiders.

The next print that I am after is the Most Memorable Day, showing Galland downing a Blenhem. This print has it all for me, action, 109F and the Blenheim.

At the moment my Diecast collecting is taking a back seat, while I restructure my print collection.

is Swansong co-signed by Gunther Rall..............................

[prune]

is Swansong co-signed by Gunther Rall..............................

Yes it is.

[eismeer]

The Fw190 is a cracking looking aircraft..... I think I might have to get a copy of Richard Taylors Ramraiders.

One of my all time favourite prints (apart from Channel Dash) is Nicolas Trudgian's "Green Heart Warriors":cool:

Its got everything, great plane, great sky and great landscape plus plenty of action in the skies, typical Russian winter mud/dirt track, wrecked armour from previous battles and above all the 190 is depicted downing a Sturmovik:cool: :D

Link below is not great but gives you an idea though i guess most here are fairly well aquainted with this print as a lot are seriously into their aviation art;) :)

http://www.aceshighgallery.co.uk/viewer/144.html

[Agent X20]

Fw190 - Keith Ferris.....

[prune]

Fw190 - Keith Ferris.....

Now yer talking,I like the way he composes his paintings,not afraid to do something a bit different unlike a certain RT
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/chrisflanagan/ferris_-_real_trouble.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/chrisflanagan/Ferris.jpg

[Agent X20]

Rauhbautz, Marie, Special Delivery, Bonnie B...(the lower picture..) IMPO has to be one of the best, Klaus Bretschneider in his 190, with a slight height advantage attacking the Fortresses only to be blown away by the propwash... That isnt a very good scan of the piccy.. its the one off the 'net... the colours the artist uses in Fortrtess vapour trails when you look at them closely, there are all sorts, but standing back, they make up the picture.....

However a 190 picture that I do like is Taylors Swansong.... the print though was a little washed out, it seems to have far better colours in his paintings book which I presume is a copy of the original...

[strix1998]

Rauhbautz, Marie, Special Delivery, Bonnie B...(the lower picture..) IMPO has to be one of the best, Klaus Bretschneider in his 190, with a slight height advantage attacking the Fortresses only to be blown away by the propwash... That isnt a very good scan of the piccy.. its the one off the 'net... the colours the artist uses in Fortrtess vapour trails when you look at them closely, there are all sorts, but standing back, they make up the picture.....

However a 190 picture that I do like is Taylors Swansong.... the print though was a little washed out, it seems to have far better colours in his paintings book which I presume is a copy of the original...

although I like the print it is a bit flat/dull-would have thought though that they would have used the same scan of the original work for both the print and the reproduction in the book. May be the latter has been colour toned it
certainly does look better..................

[david cotton]

I liked the print "The Hunter becomes the hunted" ....or at least thats what I think its called.

There are many good prints of the daylight bombing offensive.....I just wish I had more walls in my house..... and a few less windows :(

[strix1998]

Hub Zemkes P47s swooping on FWs that are attacking 100BG B17s superb................

[Nimrod48]

One of my all time favourite prints (apart from Channel Dash) is Nicolas Trudgian's "Green Heart Warriors":cool:

Its got everything, great plane, great sky and great landscape plus plenty of action in the skies, typical Russian winter mud/dirt track, wrecked armour from previous battles and above all the 190 is depicted downing a Sturmovik:cool: :D

Link below is not great but gives you an idea though i guess most here are fairly well aquainted with this print as a lot are seriously into their aviation art;) :)

http://www.aceshighgallery.co.uk/viewer/144.html


A stunning pcture I saw it displayed at Duxford some time ago & have lusted after it ever since :)

[eismeer]

A stunning pcture I saw it displayed at Duxford some time ago & have lusted after it ever since :)

You and me both then:D

There is a rare "publishers proof" edition on the web at the moment. Mint condition, COA and the original flyer for 350squid which 'aint a bad price when said quickly:LOL:

Forgot to mention it also has 4 excellent signatures:cool:

[david cotton]

Today another Robert Taylor print has landed on my door matt :)

This time it is "Fighting Tigers" the eight sig version. I will be getting it off to the framers in the next few days. I will post a photo when it arrives. :)

Again, the History Chanel "Dogfight" series is to blame. They had Tex Hill talking about his time in the Flying Tigers, and I was glued to the TV set :o

[david cotton]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/101_0056.jpg

Here is my latest Robert Taylor print. Just got it back from the framers and now I just have to hang it :)

[david cotton]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/101_0057.jpg

This is one of my older prints.

I have just had the old gold coloured frame replaced with a wood one. I also had the mount changed to a darker blue, but I kept the preservation glass :)

This is one of my favorite Robert Taylor prints, and I think it is about 14 years old now :eek:

[prune]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/101_0057.jpg

This is one of my older prints.

I have just had the old gold coloured frame replaced with a wood one. I also had the mount changed to a darker blue, but I kept the preservation glass :)

This is one of my favorite Robert Taylor prints, and I think it is about 14 years old now :eek:

Perhaps my favourite Taylor print as well,that 109 almost flies out of the print at you.I bought a cover with Barkhorns signature to cut out and put in the mount,but still haven't had it framed yet.
Remember seeing it at Duxford, framed with colour photos of the pilots that have signed it,and replica Knights Cross and ribbon.Very expensive,and sold very quickly.

[minter]

awesome, could look at that all day :cool

[Daywalker]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/101_0057.jpg

This is one of my older prints.

I have just had the old gold coloured frame replaced with a wood one. I also had the mount changed to a darker blue, but I kept the preservation glass :)

This is one of my favorite Robert Taylor prints, and I think it is about 14 years old now :eek:

Fantastic picture you posted DC. This is one of RT best prints if not the best.
I like looking on your print :D ;)
Wish i had a print for myself:o

Will post at weekend or maybe next week some prints from me. After much trouble with my framer i will get them back in 2 days.

[david cotton]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/101_0061.jpg

Here you go DayWalker :) another great Robert Taylor print. Old Taylor does like his 109's :)

I have to get this one down to the framers to replace the frame with a nice wood one :)

[ascot]

Good selection of prints David, I like the wooden framing. How much do you pay for the frame and preservation glass. I get mine frames at Aces and it is quite expensive, more so than the prints at times.

[david cotton]

Good selection of prints David, I like the wooden framing. How much do you pay for the frame and preservation glass. I get mine frames at Aces and it is quite expensive, more so than the prints at times.

The frame and a new mount will normally cost around £75, as I normally reuse the old glass.

When I end up have a new frame, mount and glass, it works out around £150.

:)

[david cotton]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/101_0068.jpg

Here is another of my collection....can you guess the pilot in the flying Me109F :) . Not sure if I will bother to reframe this one as it is not one I really like :unsure: . I think I may trade the print and then use the glass on another print, with more action in it :)

[minter]

i do like this one although i think the furthest 109 on the grounds legs look funny

[Agent X20]

stick it on E Bay... hardly a swastika on it...:D

[Daywalker]

Some of my prints with maybe my all-time favorite print "Green Heart Warriors" by Nick Trudgian :) ;)
More will follow over the next weeks.

[david cotton]

Some of my prints with maybe my all-time favorite print "Green Heart Warriors" by Nick Trudgian :) ;)
More will follow over the next weeks..

I like Trudgian best when he gets a few tanks into the print. However his best one has to be Their Finest Hour (not a tank in sight )

Green Heart Warriors does not do much for me. However, everyone has their favorites and its what you like that counts :

When I first saw Robert Taylors "Russian Roulet" print, I thought it was a terrible print.......now I think I want to buy it :wacko:

[minter]

best BoB print for me Height of the Battle by RT, that spit is just magnificent, the background the hienkels everything ticks the boxes :cool

[prune]

best BoB print for me Height of the Battle by RT, that spit is just magnificent, the background the hienkels everything ticks the boxes :cool

Agreed,only thing missing is Sailor Malans signature:(

[david cotton]

best BoB print for me Height of the Battle by RT, that spit is just magnificent, the background the hienkels everything ticks the boxes :cool

I think I like Hurricane Force best for BoB. I think the Hurricane is hard to show well in Combat, but this one does it for me :).........but Combat over London is also very good :)

[minter]

anyone had a look at RT's latest, a WW1 theme what do they think?

[prune]

anyone had a look at RT's latest, a WW1 theme what do they think?

I've got the brochure,it looks good but WW1 not my area of interest.Noticed there's an edition of 5 with Von Richthofens matted signature, £3,450:eek:
Like diecast,theres so much aviation art about now,it has to be really good to get noticed.

[david cotton]

I have just looked at what prints I have on my walls, an I find that I appear to be the accidental Nazi lover.:eek:

Hanging on my wall at the moment I have :-
Hartmann Tribute - Me109’s flying over shot down Russian
Savage Skis - Fw190 shooting down B24
No Turning Back - Fw190 shooting up Lancaster
Knights Of The Eastern Front - Barkhorn shooting down Russian
Tigers In Normandy - Tiger passing burnt out Sherman
Hunters In Desert - 109 pilot celebrating 100th victory

I think I better add a few allied victory prints…… before I forget who won the war :rolleyes:

[philminnion]

anyone had a look at RT's latest, a WW1 theme what do they think?

I am a real World War I buff and also like Robert Taylor - I have twenty plus of his prints hanging on my walls. I put an order in for the Biff Boys and await delivery. I have only seen the brochure but it looks like a very nice scene. The Bristol Fighter was a great aircraft and it is nice to see some Canadian aces featured. There were many Canadian aces in the Great War - Barker, Collishaw, MacLaren, Bishop, et al. McKeever was the King of the Two Seaters. I also like the large cumulus cloud formation portrayed in the work. It looks really good.

Phil Minnion
Vancouver BC

[david cotton]

I am a real World War I buff and also like Robert Taylor - I have twenty plus of his prints hanging on my walls. I put an order in for the Biff Boys and await delivery. I have only seen the brochure but it looks like a very nice scene. The Bristol Fighter was a great aircraft and it is nice to see some Canadian aces featured. There were many Canadian aces in the Great War - Barker, Collishaw, MacLaren, Bishop, et al. McKeever was the King of the Two Seaters. I also like the large cumulus cloud formation portrayed in the work. It looks really good.

Phil Minnion
Vancouver BC

I think the pilot signature is only on the companion print. I may be wrong, but I think Biff Boys only has RT's signature :unsure:

[philminnion]

I think the pilot signature is only on the companion print. I may be wrong, but I think Biff Boys only has RT's signature :unsure:

You are very right on the signatures. However, is it signatures you are after, or the art. When you are dealing with WW1, they are all dead! So you are not going to get signatures. Does that take away from the art? - I think not!

Eventually, all the WW2 aces are going to be gone too. Do we stop buying the art? I think it is time to get real on aviation art. The signatures are nice- but - I never bought a print in my life based on the signatures. I buy what pleases me - nothing more

[david cotton]

You are very right on the signatures. However, is it signatures you are after, or the art. When you are dealing with WW1, they are all dead! So you are not going to get signatures. Does that take away from the art? - I think not!

Eventually, all the WW2 aces are going to be gone too. Do we stop buying the art? I think it is time to get real on aviation art. The signatures are nice- but - I never bought a print in my life based on the signatures. I buy what pleases me - nothing more


A lot of people collect the art for both the print and the signature. The signatures add a bit of personal history to the print, while the print gives the viewer an insight into what the signer was involved in.

The reason that I pointed out the Biff Boys is not signed, is that there are some prints for sale on Ebay without the companion print.

It is understandable that the main print is not signed by the WW1 pilot, but it might not be obvious.

What will happen when all the pilots have passed on :unsure: I think we will see an increase in post WW2 prints, signed by pilots of the Vietnam and Middle East conflicts. :)

[strix1998]

You are very right on the signatures. However, is it signatures you are after, or the art. When you are dealing with WW1, they are all dead! So you are not going to get signatures. Does that take away from the art? - I think not!

Eventually, all the WW2 aces are going to be gone too. Do we stop buying the art? I think it is time to get real on aviation art. The signatures are nice- but - I never bought a print in my life based on the signatures. I buy what pleases me - nothing more
Phil Minnion
Vancouver BC

whether it is art or diecast. There is no doubt however that the likes of signatures by the top WW2 flight crew do add value to the right print issue. It will be interesting to see whether some of Taylor's modern era works appreciate similarly as the signatories from for example the Vietnam War are no longer around......and the name that immediately comes to mind is that of Robin Olds whose bravery and deeds spanned three conflicts............

[minter]

vietnam signed prints? cant see them catching on here, be interesting though if the last surviving WW2 pilot flew dakotas, and if we see a glut of dakota prints

[david cotton]

whether it is art or diecast. There is no doubt however that the likes of signatures by the top WW2 flight crew do add value to the right print issue.

Vey true. You only have to look at the extra cost of a print, if you want it with extra signatures. The ones with extra signatures also seem to be sold out a lot quicker :)

I would also agree that I look mainly at the print first, before buying. However, I do check the additional signatures to see if I want to upgrade. :)

[Agent X20]

The signatures are nice- but - I never bought a print in my life based on the signatures. I buy what pleases me - nothing more

I'll second that...

See all the older prints are now being bought so as the signatures can be cut out and presented on later 'higher value' art....:wacko:

[strix1998]

I'll second that...

See all the older prints are now being bought so as the signatures can be cut out and presented on later 'higher value' art....:wacko:

it is not only the age of the issue but a factor of how the artist's work has and continues to evolve and inprove.With an established artist it is usually the most recent work that is most highly sought after. You only have to look at the use of colour in Taylor's works now as opposed to some of his early work................

[Agent X20]

Taylor has improved dramatically from the early £4.95 Daily Telegraph offers.. .... Coulson on the other hand IMHO hasnt produced anything of note of late... I prefer his earlier stuff...

A market similar to diecast... Thirty years ago, there was virtually nothing available... now the marketplace is flooded..

[johnnyboy]

vietnam signed prints? cant see them catching on here, be interesting though if the last surviving WW2 pilot flew dakotas, and if we see a glut of dakota prints

If Vietnam does start to sell maybe then Lou Drendel will start to get the get the recognition of being the great artist I know him to be instead of "oh he does books no we dont have any of his work"
http://inlinethumb09.webshots.com/41608/2035879300103714640S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2035879300103714640WufAoe)


http://inlinethumb55.webshots.com/41718/2109252470103714640S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2109252470103714640QchJlJ)http://inlinethumb03.webshots.com/41346/2050218490103714640S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2050218490103714640LcNwCI)

[strix1998]

[QUOTE=johnnyboy;230101]If Vietnam does start to sell maybe then Lou Drendel will start to get the get the recognition of being the great artist I know him to be instead of "oh he does books no we dont have any of his work"

Must admit have heard the name but not seen the work. The other US artist whose name does not appear very often on this side of the pond is Stan Stokes. One of Robert Taylor's prints that I aspire to own also being an afficianado of the F105 (but not at £195) is Rolling Thunder which seems to be a sticking piece with stockists here..............

[david cotton]

The Strike and Strike again print without the signatures has been resold again.

I refused it when I won it for £86, as it was not clear that is was not a signed copy.

This time round it went for just under £25, but this time the listing said it did not have signatures.

I wonder if the Military Gallery clocked it :unsure:

[philminnion]

A lot of people collect the art for both the print and the signature. The signatures add a bit of personal history to the print, while the print gives the viewer an insight into what the signer was involved in.

The reason that I pointed out the Biff Boys is not signed, is that there are some prints for sale on Ebay without the companion print.

It is understandable that the main print is not signed by the WW1 pilot, but it might not be obvious.

What will happen when all the pilots have passed on :unsure: I think we will see an increase in post WW2 prints, signed by pilots of the Vietnam and Middle East conflicts. :)

I certainly agree that the signatures do add the personal touch especially when the signatories involved have had input into the print. This certainly validates the scene portrayed. What I don't get is the use of "matted signatures" from long dead individuals who have not talked to the artist or seen the print. It doesn't seem right somehow to put their name to the print. I don't think the jet age has the same interest as World War 2 but, then, there is a whole new generation coming up and maybe this is what they will want.

Phil Minnion

[Pilgrim_uk]

This time round it went for just under £25, but this time the listing said it did not have signatures.


Damn at that price i would have bought it. :)

[Daywalker]

Does someone knows a link where i can get a copy of Robert Taylors "Sting of the Black Tulip"? I know that it is very difficult to find this rare print and i had searched many times for this print with no luck:o

[uksubs]

Does someone knows a link where i can get a copy of Robert Taylors "Sting of the Black Tulip"? I know that it is very difficult to find this rare print and i had searched many times for this print with no luck:o
Check the link out
http://www.leisuregalleries.com/tulip1.html

One went for £3000 http://www.aviart4sale.com/rob_taylor.html

[david cotton]

Does someone knows a link where i can get a copy of Robert Taylors "Sting of the Black Tulip"? I know that it is very difficult to find this rare print and i had searched many times for this print with no luck:o


That is a hard one to get.....you have good taste :)

A Russian Roulete print would be a lot easier :D

Are you collecting Hartmann prints :unsure:

[strix1998]

have used before and always found the service good...............
E-Mail : sales@aviation-art-international.com
they are uk based...........

[david cotton]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/101_0221.jpg

Just got my Combat Over London re-framed. Got rid of the horrible gilt frame and it now has a nice wooden one.

I picked this print up for £100 about 15 years ago. The Hendon shop was selling them half price :eek: I don't think the Military Gallery were very happy about it either :unsure:

[Craig]

Lovely DC, your aviation art collection really is a bit special, trouble is prints make diecast look cheap! :eek: :unsure:

[Martin Bull]

very nice indeed, dc...that really does look tasteful ! :cool:

[david cotton]

very nice indeed, dc...that really does look tasteful ! :cool:

Thanks Craig and MB. :)

My collection is getting a make over at the moment. I am pushing my collection towards Combat prints, rather than just studies of aircraft with a nice back ground. I like to see aircraft in combat, it refreshes my interset in aircraft every time I look at Combat stuff :)

My collection was starting to get very Robert Taylor, but I am now looking at other artists, such as Atack and Richard Taylor. :)

[Red 2]

That really is an exceptionally good print and one of Taylor's best IMPO.

Very sympathetically framed DC!:cool:

[david cotton]

Taylors latest is one for the P47 fans :) ....thats me :D

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/airplanepictures_2018_6263540.jpg

No action, but the P47's look very dramatic. The companion drawing is also very good :)

[david cotton]

Here is the companion drawing you get , if you go for the 9 sig edition

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/airplanepictures_2018_6768165.jpg

[kevjb64]

Both very nice . :cool

[david cotton]

Both very nice . :cool

I wish the drawing had been done as a full colour print on its own. I think it is a great picture and shows the P47 doing what it does best.....killing Luftwaffe fighters :D

[Dutchie]

Always nice to see the pictures on this thread!!!:cool:

[Agent X20]

Taylors latest is one for the P47 fans :) ....thats me :D

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/airplanepictures_2018_6263540.jpg

No action, but the P47's look very dramatic. The companion drawing is also very good :)

Its the old double star and bar underwing stuff.. still looks wierd.... ( and they do look a little oversize..)

[david cotton]

Its the old double star and bar underwing stuff.. still looks wierd.... ( and they do look a little oversize..)

That's a good point :eek: did the Wofpack aircraft have stars and bars on both wind undersides :unsure:

[Agent X20]

I would say that Taylor has his research right... All I was saying is that it, to me, still looks odd......

[minter]

would have preffered the pencil print as the main colour jobbie, underwing stars on both wings? there was a debate abut this a while ago and cant remember the outcome, i dont think theres many photos showing the undersides of both wings.....

[Agent X20]

The underwing stars are right***.... for that particular time.. What the debate was about was whether as depicted by your favourite canine on their P47, is whether the stars were on both upper wing surafaces.... or only the port side.....:D

*** still looks wierd to me though...

[david cotton]

The underwing stars are right***.... for that particular time.. What the debate was about was whether as depicted by your favourite canine on their P47, is whether the stars were on both upper wing surafaces.... or only the port side.....:D

*** still looks wierd to me though...

Does look a little strange, but as long as it is correct. I am very tempted by this one, mainly because of the companion print. I have a feeling this one will be around for quite a while,:unsure:

[david cotton]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/101_0393.jpg

This is my latest Robert Taylor print. Not a popular one, but I like it and it does have the sigs of 5 German night fighter pilots.

I have framed it in Non reflective glass, but it is not preservation glass. I don't think the value of this print is worth the extra glass. This is my first print in non reflective glass and I quite like it....... just got to keep it out of the sun light :eek:

The Print is called Duel In The Dark

[Agent X20]

Why is it not that popular David.... subject matter..? .. perspective/positions..??

There is definitely an element of artistic licence in that the Me110 is that close if the Lanc blew up they would be no more and hes about to fly into the front gunners field of fire.. the 110 would get more value using the front armament..

[eismeer]

Nice print DC, i like it:cool:

[minter]

Why is it not that popular David.... subject matter..? .. perspective/positions..??

There is definitely an element of artistic licence in that the Me110 is that close if the Lanc blew up they would be no more and hes about to fly into the front gunners field of fire.. the 110 would get more value using the front armament..

nice print, i have read accounts of nightfighter pilots getting too close and copping it or at least being damamged by debris

[Agent X20]

...... they would if they were blowing it to shreds with a Schräge Musik combination.... but that aint what's depicted....

[david cotton]

I say the print is not popular because it is still available at the publishers , fire years after release :eek:

The print is a poor mans version of Lancaster Under Attack. There is not the detail on the Lancaster that I would expect from Taylor. The blue sky background also has no detail, as it depicts a clear sky. This print is £200 RRP, and there is a lot of choice when you have £200 to spend.

However, I like the print because it shows combat as it probably was. Taylor always gets the veterans opinion on his compositions and normally responds to any comments they make, so you can be sure its on the mark.

You will never see a photo of combat like this, and Taylor creates a window into the past by talking to the veterans and then putting their memories onto canvas.


I think it is hard to criticise the positions of the aircraft and the scene. The Lancaster would be trying to mess up the Me110's attack and the Me110 may not have been in a good position when the opportunity for attack occurred.:)

[Agent X20]

Because there are no photos, you cant really summerise, however from the reflection on the Lanc and 110 they are over/just coming up to the target, if so why are the Lanc bomb doors not open...?? Would the German night fighters have been present where theres lots of flak....?? Reality is it would be pitch black and there should be a speech bubble with take that Englander!!... and another aaargh.. from the Lanc..!!

All good stuff......:D

[david cotton]

Because there are no photos, you cant really summerise, however from the reflection on the Lanc and 110 they are over/just coming up to the target, if so why are the Lanc bomb doors not open...?? Would the German night fighters have been present where theres lots of flak....?? Reality is it would be pitch black and there should be a speech bubble with take that Englander!!... and another aaargh.. from the Lanc..!!

All good stuff......:D

All very true, but you can say that the scene is possible :)

Most of my first impressions of what combat would of been like, were from Comic books and films like the BoB. The pictures they put in my head and those of the vetrens, expressed by RT, do not seem so different.:unsure:

[Agent X20]

Thats why yer need a couple of Captain Hurricane speech bubbles with ......Take that Nuremberg Knuckleheads..!!... and few Gott in Himmels.... that should make em look more accurate...:D

[minter]

the 110 would get more value using the front armament..

perhaps he did, and missed and now the rear gunners having a pop

[david cotton]

Thats why yer need a couple of Captain Hurricane speech bubbles with ......Take that Nuremberg Knuckleheads..!!... and few Gott in Himmels.... that should make em look more accurate...:D

yep, Learn essential German and the art of European diplomacy in 3 comic stories.:D

I have been reading the old Johnny Red stories on the Falcon Squadron site. That comic strip really painted the Germans as evil fanatics:eek:

[minter]

there should be a speech bubble with take that Englander!!....

Englander schwienhund!

[Agent X20]

Didnt want to get that un-PC....:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

[david cotton]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/BandOfB.jpg

I picked up a copy of this print today, for a very very good price. If only I had got it before the BCD :( The print is of Lancasters, but sitting in one corner of the background, there is a Halifax...I think...not 100% sure :)

I am a combat print lover, and don't normally buy prints without combat now. However, this print shows the men of Bomber Comand, as well as the machines. Its good to see what the vetrens would of looked like in full colour and in the prime of life :)

[Agent X20]

That aint just ant old Lancaster there sport.. thats yer S for Sugar after 95 not out....:D :D

[david cotton]

That aint just ant old Lancaster there sport.. thats yer S for Sugar after 95 not out....:D :D

I know that :D I was looking carefully at its nose, to make sure the spelling was correct :rolleyes: .....as if I would be able to do that :o

Anyway, the suspect Halifax is to the left of Sugar's wing tip .....I left the print at the Framers, where I bought it. That way I don't have to roll it up, and he will frame it when I give him the nod......or rather the dosh ;)

Does anyone have the print so that they can confirm if that is a Halifax or Lancaster lurking in the background :confused:

[Jimbo27]

That way I don't have to roll it up, and he will frame it when I give him the nob......or rather the dosh ;)

Don't you spell it with a "K" ?:)

Does this work better than cash then?:)

[minter]

Does anyone have the print so that they can confirm if that is a Halifax or Lancaster lurking in the background :confused:

it is a halifax

[minter]

looking at the new flypast which is an excellent edition, the back cover caught my eye Robert Taylor senior has done a stuka painting and Richard has done a tiffie, the stuka one looks well good

[prune]

looking at the new flypast which is an excellent edition, the back cover caught my eye Robert Taylor senior has done a stuka painting and Richard has done a tiffie, the stuka one looks well good

That Battle of Britain Stuka does look like a great print....if only it had been a Defiant:rolleyes:

[david cotton]

That Battle of Britain Stuka does look like a great print....if only it had been a Defiant:rolleyes:

I've not seen it yet.....any one got a pic they can post :unsure:

[minter]

havnt seen it on the net yet, not even aces high have loaded it, i lurves me hurris but yep would have liked a defiant instead

[Hornchurch]

That Battle of Britain Stuka does look like a great print....if only it had been a Defiant:rolleyes:


Ahh, long overdue

[david cotton]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/stuka.jpg

Here we go .....gotta get this one

[minter]

yep Taylors still top of the pile, whats the sigs with this ?

[Daywalker]

yep Taylors still top of the pile, whats the sigs with this ?

Great print :eek: . Whats with the signatures anyone knows? I really like the view of the Stuka. Also a great background RT has choosen.

[ascot]

Blimey I might have to buy this one, I had given up on Taylors work as I got a tad bored but this looks interesting.

[david cotton]

Signatures on this print called Open Assault :)

Limited Edition (3 signatures)
Group Captain BYRON DUCKENFIELD AFC
Leutnant WILHELM NOLLER
Wing Commander TONY PICKERING

The Collectors Edition (6 signatures) also signed by:
Squadron Leader DOUGLAS NICHOLLS DFC
Major ERIC RUDORFFER
Oberleutnant GUNTHER SEEGER

[kevjb64]

Signatures on this print called Open Assault :)

Limited Edition (3 signatures)
Group Captain BYRON DUCKENFIELD AFC
Leutnant WILHELM NOLLER
Wing Commander TONY PICKERING

The Collectors Edition (6 signatures) also signed by:
Squadron Leader DOUGLAS NICHOLLS DFC
Major ERIC RUDORFFER
Oberleutnant GUNTHER SEEGER

Thanks for info dc , this one looks very tempting I must admit . :)

[minter]

best painting i have seen of a stuka for a long time

[david cotton]

best painting i have seen of a stuka for a long time

Yes, Taylor is at his best when he shows a hun being blown from the sky :D

I think this is the third combat painting he gas done over Dover Harbour. The Battle For Britain and Steinhoff Tribute being the other 2.

Maybe he is hoping that this one will help sales of The Battle For Britain :unsure: ....if so, its a good plan, because I want to get them both now :D

[ascot]

not a great signature list perhaps they should significantly reduce the price (credit crunch etc) and sell limited edition or open edition non signature print. It has been a long time since Robert has had a colour print sold out edition and this would be a good way of introducing a new generation of collector.

[david cotton]

not a great signature list perhaps they should significantly reduce the price (credit crunch etc) and sell limited edition or open edition non signature print. It has been a long time since Robert has had a colour print sold out edition and this would be a good way of introducing a new generation of collector.

I'm not sure if RT needs a sell out edition :unsure: There must be enougth money from constant sales.

WW2 sigs will be drying up soon, so I think open editions on WW2 stuff will happen and the price will drop because of it :).

The Viatnam and Korean war vertrens should be around for a longer, so maybe RT should be looking towards those markets more:unsure:

[strix1998]

WW2 sigs will be drying up soon, so I think open editions on WW2 stuff will happen and the price will drop because of it :). Be surprised with the man's reputation that he would fall back to open edition issuance with as you say a drop in prices-think that Linited Editions just carrying his own signature to be more likely

The Viatnam and Korean war vertrens should be around for a longer, so maybe RT should be looking towards those markets more:unsure:[/QUOTE]
Agree DC look how long Rolling Thunder the F105 print has taken to sell down still a few UK retailers with copies at £195 -would need to be careful choices of subject...............

[minter]

WW2 sigs will be drying up soon, so I think open editions on WW2 stuff will happen and the price will drop because of it :).


might even see an increase in where the print isnt actually signed but an original sig is stuck on.

[Craig]

WW2 sigs will be drying up soon, so I think open editions on WW2 stuff will happen and the price will drop because of it :). Be surprised with the man's reputation that he would fall back to open edition issuance with as you say a drop in prices-think that Linited Editions just carrying his own signature to be more likely

The Viatnam and Korean war vertrens should be around for a longer, so maybe RT should be looking towards those markets more:unsure:
Agree DC look how long Rolling Thunder the F105 print has taken to sell down still a few UK retailers with copies at £195 -would need to be careful choices of subject...............[/QUOTE]

Would personally expect for the UK The Falklands, Gulf and Germany to be better choices for editions. "Peace time" or not, I could see a print of a pair of Toom's low over Germany selling far better than a pair of "Thuds" in Vietnam...

[david cotton]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/CIMG1550.jpg

Just got "Band Of Brothers", by Robert Taylor, back from the framers. :)

I picked this one up for £100, but the framing cost be another £125. It is framed with conservation glass. This print is a little smaller than some of the others, so it worked out about £25 less than normal to Frame. Total cost on the wall was therefore £225 :eek: .........that could be a lot of die cast :(

I normally collect combat scenes but this one still looks good to me. I think its because it shows the men as well as the aircraft. Just wish I had taken it to the BCD and got the extra sigs......saying that, there is not much room for sigs left. This one is signed by 4 aircrew and Taylor :)

[Daywalker]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/CIMG1550.jpg

Just got "Band Of Brothers", by Robert Taylor, back from the framers. :)

I picked this one up for £100, but the framing cost be another £125. It is framed with conservation glass. This print is a little smaller than some of the others, so it worked out about £25 less than normal to Frame. Total cost on the wall was therefore £225 :eek: .........that could be a lot of die cast :(

I normally collect combat scenes but this one still looks good to me. I think its because it shows the men as well as the aircraft. Just wish I had taken it to the BCD and got the extra sigs......saying that, there is not much room for sigs left. This one is signed by 4 aircrew and Taylor :)

That is a fantastic print and nicely framed. As usual i really like to look at your prints, DC. Is everything right with the colors? Looks like a little bit of fading:confused:

[david cotton]

That is a fantastic print and nicely framed. As usual i really like to look at your prints, DC. Is everything right with the colors? Looks like a little bit of fading:confused:

Theres no fading :) , it just the photo :o

The print is brand new, and not a second hand one. The shop that frames my prints has a few Taylors for sale. He let me have it cheap, providing I let him frame it :) He frames all my prints , so we both win. I have another 3 prints ready for reframing early next year, so he will be getting lots of business from me :)

He also sold me the 300 club , brand new, for £85 :) .......... but I'm not sure if I like it now :o

[ascot]

Damn I thought I had got over my addiction to aviation art and Robert Taylor in particular I just had to buy his new pencil print The Eagles Divide Eagles proof back to the therapist me thinks

[minter]

i know what you mean, his latest is the best BoB print i have seen in a long time, he is without sounding rude like a fine wine, the more mature he gets the better he is

[Red 2]

Think I blame DC for my increasing addiction to prints. :rolleyes: Santa is hopefully bringing me a nice print holder...

Taylor's 'Open Assault' is superb and the Tony Pickering connection is making it very, very tempting.

[david cotton]

Think I blame DC for my increasing addiction to prints. :rolleyes: Santa is hopefully bringing me a nice print holder...

Print holder :eek: get em framed and on the wall :D who wants a grave stone with this written on it

' Here lies the owner of a collection of mint unframed prints....that he never loooked at ' :eek:

[eismeer]

Print holder :eek: get em framed and on the wall :D who wants a grave stone with this written on it

' Here lies the owner of a collection of mint unframed prints....that he never loooked at ' :eek:

Same can be said for most of our diecast collections yet we still keep buying 'em:wacko: :D

[Red 2]

Print holder :eek: get em framed and on the wall :D who wants a grave stone with this written on it

' Here lies the owner of a collection of mint unframed prints....that he never loooked at ' :eek:

Already started framing....;)

[david cotton]

Same can be said for most of our diecast collections yet we still keep buying 'em:wacko: :D

True True....Oh so very true :o :o

[david cotton]

Already started framing....;)...........but what have you started framing :eek: ....apart from CFBC, for the great Elvington Apple Pie robbery of 2008 :eek:

[Daywalker]

Some prints finally hanging on the wall. Picture quality isnt best as i had not enough time.

[kevjb64]

Very nice .:)

[Craig]

Very nice indeed! Are these your model room? :)

[Daywalker]

Very nice indeed! Are these your model room? :)

Yes, prints hanging in my diecast room;) I would have posted my whole collection but i havent found the right forum topic to post the pics.

[Craig]

Yes, prints hanging in my diecast room;) I would have posted my whole collection but i havent found the right forum topic to post the pics.

They'd be nice to see, just stick a new thread in the General Chat section, that's what I did anyway :) Always nice to see a fellow collector's collection!

[eismeer]

Looks well neat Daywalker:cool:

Another collector with his own space, believe me, i'm not envious:D

[Martin Bull]

Just took delivery of a really old Taylor print - 'Mosquito' signed by Leonard Cheshire. With my recent interest in 617 Mossies, I 'needed' :o this one and got a framed one off evilbay for £50 all in. Not in perfect condition but good enough for me.....:)

[prune]

Just took delivery of a really old Taylor print - 'Mosquito' signed by Leonard Cheshire. With my recent interest in 617 Mossies, I 'needed' :o this one and got a framed one off evilbay for £50 all in. Not in perfect condition but good enough for me.....:)

Got one of those in the roof,its one of the ones that were released bonded to a piece of what looks like chipboard,along with 'Halifax' and the Johnny Johnson D-Day one.Thought I'd save on the framing:o

[Martin Bull]

Yes - it's not great quality ( nothing like as special as my recent Trudgian 617 print ) but to me it's worth it just to have Chesh's original signature on a Mossie print...:cool:

[kevjb64]

This was one of the prints I brought at Duxford yesterday : -

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll124/kevjb64/dambusters-breaching-the-eder-dam.jpg

So come on Corgi , where's the model to go with it ?? ;)


Interestingly I was advised not to add any signatures to this one ( collectors edition ) but leave Taylor's prints as they come :unsure: , the guy never said that with any of the other prints I brought . :)

[Agent X20]

Cold light of day stuff... Extra siggys will invariably devalue a print on the secondary market.... okay, for the punter, they make up for it on a sentimental basis and many will never sell their prints......

........until the extra signatures become worth more than the print and can then be cut out, used for other purposes.. and the print either cropped and reframed.. (naughty :rolleyes: ...... just watch for those close borders....) or simply thrown away...

[Martin Bull]

It's all a matter of personal taste, but for me, the signature(s) just have to be directly on the original print. The vogue for 'cut'n'paste' signatures isn't worth a penny to me......

[Agent X20]

Seems their way of creating instant 'high value' to an edition... gawd knows where they are getting all the sigs from.....:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

... and interesting some of the siggies that are popping up... Lofty Agent are working on a third reich edition of their York Nightfighter print... we've got that nice Mr Hilter from number 42 to sign it..:D

[kevjb64]

Seems their way of creating instant 'high value' to an edition... gawd knows where they are getting all the sigs from.....:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

... and interesting some of the siggies that are popping up... Lofty Agent are working on a third reich edition of their York Nightfighter print... we've got that nice Mr Hilter from number 42 to sign it..:D

Eddie ?? :rolleyes: :D

[Martin Bull]

Anyway, it's a lovely-looking print, Kev....:cool:

( I wonder if indeed the Dams Raid is by far the most-painted 'Op' in history...? :unsure: )

[Agent X20]

Eddie ?? :rolleyes: :D Thats an extra fiver..!!!!:D

[Agent X20]

( I wonder if indeed the Dams Raid is by far the most-painted 'Op' in history...? :unsure: ) .. and just how dark was it that night...?? Nice print though.. certainly one of the better ones..

Its the subject that most of the artists have had a go at..:)

[kevjb64]

Anyway, it's a lovely-looking print, Kev....:cool:

( I wonder if indeed the Dams Raid is by far the most-painted 'Op' in history...? :unsure: )

Gotta be , this is my first and probably only one of the raid but it seems to have been covered from every available angle . :unsure:

[Martin Bull]

.. and just how dark was it that night...??

I think it was relatively light, wasn't it ? As with Peenemunde, they had to go on a clear night to have any hope at all of finding the target.....

[minter]

Gotta be , this is my first and probably only one of the raid but it seems to have been covered from every available angle . :unsure:

yes, but only seen one where they are about to take off or taxiing, an early taylor, i supppse not so dramatic or popular sales wise to do this again or some of the Lancs coming home or landing

[Martin Bull]

...I do have a quite nice Maurice Gardner print of 'O-Orange' flying back over Holland at very low level with the dawn breaking...signed by Bill Townsend and two crewmembers. Although not as technically proficient as some of the 'big name' artists, it makes a nice change......

[minter]

hmmm dont remember that one, will have to google it, also Coulson did one called the morning after i think, but pretty bland

[Martin Bull]

It came in an edition of 850 and is called 'Dambuster Return'. The other signatories are Douglas Webb and George Chalmers. I like it for several reasons ; -

- Bill Townsend got the CGM for this flight
- The print isn't too big
- It's unusual
- I paid £30 for it on evilbay four years ago.....;)

[minter]

very good last reason

[david cotton]

This was one of the prints I brought at Duxford yesterday : -

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll124/kevjb64/dambusters-breaching-the-eder-dam.jpg

So come on Corgi , where's the model to go with it ?? ;)


Interestingly I was advised not to add any signatures to this one

I think a print can be spoiled if it has too may signatures. Also, the print can get a little worn by all the handling it gets during the signing.

I do like the Elder print, but it looks a little dark in the photo. I have not seen one in the flesh, is it very dark -unsure-

[david cotton]

I went down town yesterday, and had a real Robert Taylor fest -smile I purchased :-

The Battle For Britain
Valour In The Pacific , with companion print Fortress Under Attack.
Coming In Over The Estuary.

Now I have to get them all framed,-biggrin-

The Fortress Under Attack print is one of my favorites, even though it ia a small print. It has 2 great signatures on it, Red Erwin and Jay Zeamer, both MOH winners.

Red Erwin was the guy who picked up the burning explosive, which ignited in the B29, and threw it out. He was badley burned and had 43 plastic surgery operation.


Jay Zeamer was the pilot of Eager Beaver, that fought of 20 odd Jap fighters.

[CFBC]

Welcome hom DC and some nice purchases!

You need to find an empty wall now! -biggrin-

[david cotton]

Welcome hom DC and some nice purchases!

You need to find an empty wall now! -biggrin-

To empty walls.....one very empty wallet -huh-

Crop rotaion is the only way round this. -smile

[dilligafocau]

To empty walls.....one very empty wallet -huh-

Crop rotaion is the only way round this. -smile

The ceiling is an often overlooked piece of real estate just begging for some brightening up -biggrin-

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03_03/sistineDM2203_468x622.jpg

[david cotton]

Now that gives me an idea -smile ......if only you could get Robert Taylor print wall paper -blink- .

[kevjb64]

I think a print can be spoiled if it has too may signatures. Also, the print can get a little worn by all the handling it gets during the signing.

I do like the Elder print, but it looks a little dark in the photo. I have not seen one in the flesh, is it very dark -unsure-

the actual print is a little lighter than that but not much , gives a fair impression of a moon lit night IMPO . -smile

[Max Reheat]

The ceiling is an often overlooked piece of real estate just begging for some brightening up -biggrin-

What? Cover up the mirrors, never... -wink- -biggrin-

Now that gives me an idea -smile ......if only you could get Robert Taylor print wall paper -blink- .

Genius DC! (bow down icon)

[david cotton]

I have just been looking at what I purchased in 2008, in regard to Robert Taylor prints :) ......I think I went a bit over the top....but the collection is looking very good.

So this year I added the following to my collection

Schweinfurt - Second Mission
Malta GC
Greycap Leader
Savage Skies
Fighting Tigers
No Turning Back
Band Of Brothers
Duel In The Dark
Valour In The Pacific
Comming In Over The Estury
The Battle For Britain
Open Assult

Also
300 Club by Trudgian
Eagle Strike by Simon Atack
Red Hot Persuit by Simon Atack

Not bad for 2008......good job I have good will power and am able to resist the urge to buy :) ..........help :wacko:

[david cotton]

Open Assult is back from the framers, and it looks great on the wall :)

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/101_0403.jpg

sorry about the poor photo, I have a KodaK M853, and it takes shocking photo's is low light :( My better Casio Camera was stolen in Nigeria :mad:

[david cotton]

Here is the latest Taylor, called Height and Sun

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/heightandSun.jpg

If you pay the £195 you get 25 sigs.

I am not keen on this print. :(

[prune]

For a BoB print with so many sigs. (40 in the top edition) he really should have done something special,and that aint it:(
Be interesting to see what they have up their sleeve for next year,being the 70th anniversary.

[strix1998]

Bader's Bus Company signed by Johnstone-Dundas and Crowley-Milling bought and framed it and then got fed up with it and sold it -too much sky and not enough of the aircraft................do not think that one has appreciated much in value...............

[prune]

Bader's Bus Company signed by Johnstone-Dundas and Crowley-Milling bought and framed it and then got fed up with it and sold it -too much sky and not enough of the aircraft................do not think that one has appreciated much in value...............

been out years and still not sold out from the publisher,says it all really:rolleyes:

[david cotton]

Bader's Bus Company

I see where you are coming from :)

Robert Taylor can play a bit safe, and this is one of those :(

I cannot tell a Lie, I do like some of his sun set painting. Valour In The Pacfic, In Gallant Company and Coming Home are all prints I like very much.



Open Assult is the type of Taylor I like best, but he has to cater for all tastes.

I wonder if Nick Trudgian will throw a red hot one into the BoB mix this year. I think Nick is the man to give us a Defiant in Action. Not sure if he can still get his prints signed like Taylor can.:)

[prune]

I wonder if Nick Trudgian will throw a red hot one into the BoB mix this year. I think Nick is the man to give us a Defiant in Action. Not sure if he can still get his prints signed like Taylor can.:)

That would be a good un,I think top scoring Defiant gunner Fred Barker is still around.

[david cotton]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/MilneBay.jpg

This one was released after Open Assult. Milne Bay - The Turning Point. A nice print, but nothing new or special about it. Not sure why they released this one at all :unsure:

[prune]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/MilneBay.jpg

This one was released after Open Assult. Milne Bay - The Turning Point. A nice print, but nothing new or special about it. Not sure why they released this one at all :unsure:

Aussie market?

[ascot]

My Congratulations to Robert Taylor for IMHO an excellent painting and so different from the norm. I have been happy to part with 450 for this one, esp with the 40 signatures inc Bader.
I don't think Taylor has played it safe at all but in these interesting times Battle of Britain prints are the ones that will sell, possibly even a Defiant (Don't think I would buy it though unless it was exceptional)
I would love to see Taylor cover more German bombers apart from the He111

As for too many signatures spoiling a print well I disagree but then again I collect as much for the signatures as for the print.

Looking forward to his F4 print due soon. If he captures the Smoking Thunderhog like he did in Phantom Strike then it is bound to be a winner esp Staeside.

The Turning Point was released mainly for the Aussie market and it is different trouble is if sales are low and people knock him for it on forums such as this it reduces the chance of other "different" prints being produced in the future.

[minter]

Here is the latest Taylor, called Height and Sun

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/heightandSun.jpg

If you pay the £195 you get 25 sigs.

I am not keen on this print. :(

the planes look very similar to an 85 sqdn photo

[minter]

I would love to see Taylor cover more German bombers apart from the He111


interesting, has he ever done a DO 17

[Agent X20]

the planes look very similar to an 85 sqdn photo Certainly does.... I like this one.... as its more of a painting than an 'air ace' comic book scene.. only gripe is the Hurricanes could be a little more accurate in outline... It is certainly one you could put on the office wall... (now theres a thought...:rolleyes: )

As to whether I would go the full hog as get the Bader siggy version... on a cynical note where exactly are all these signatures coming from...????

[minter]

on a cynical note where exactly are all these signatures coming from...????

indeed, is there a stockpile somewhere ?

[Agent X20]

There might be the prints that never passed QC in the early days and on a run of 500-100 there would have been extra signed copies to cater for snafus... so presume they would be using those.... some they have kept for a rainy day ... I dunno.. is Baders siggy now at its peak, monetary wise..?, most probably, as in fifty years time.. Bader who..?:(

[Kubikali]

Some time ago I was close to buying "Chance Encounter". Am I wrong in concluding that that one is quite unique in subject for Robert Taylor!?

[prune]

the planes look very similar to an 85 sqdn photo

He probably got his inspiration from that.When I see the actual print,I'll probably like it,but enough to buy it,I dont know.
It looks more like a quick oil sketch to me,hardly his best cloudscape.
Its Pete Brothers 32 Squadron,so its strange he hasn't signed any of the editions or has his sig. matted within the mount.

[prune]

Some time ago I was close to buying "Chance Encounter". Am I wrong in concluding that that one is quite unique in subject for Robert Taylor!?

No you would be right:)

[minter]

It looks more like a quick oil sketch to me,hardly his best cloudscape.


pretty good oil sketch, but know what you mean, would like to see a bigger pic of it

[Red 2]

Received the promo leaflet through and was initially rather excited as 'blood and guts' scenes are verboten on the R2 walls (the dearly beloved exercising her veto) so I thought this would be a good one.

However, the cloudscape isn't in my humble opinion the best and some of the Hurris just don't look right. More of an 'atmospheric' painting but if you are into signatures, I guess it is a must.

I'll pass whilst keeping the limited funds for that elusive BoB release with a Spit that'll meet the onerous R2 Towers requirements...Give me a Spit a la Open Assault background and I'll be a happy bunny.

[boris]

I have just won a limited edition of 1500 framed print of the above which is signed by Taylor and Major General Jeremy Moore and it also has a pencil sketch of a Sea King on the lower margin.
Does anyone know how many he would have done like this.
Unfortunately there was no certificate.When I get a new frame I will post photo.
Thanks,
Boris

[strix1998]

Miltary Gallery website "South Atlantic Task Force" they show an issue of 1500 copies at an original list price of £75. They do not mention/list remarques as they usually do so will be interesting to see your photograph. Was it listed as a remarque? (which would usually be a very small number as you will see from other RT titles).......................

[boris]

Miltary Gallery website "South Atlantic Task Force" they show an issue of 1500 copies at an original list price of £75. They do not mention/list remarques as they usually do so will be interesting to see your photograph. Was it listed as a remarque? (which would usually be a very small number as you will see from other RT titles).......................

I have searched for info and found nothing apart from the original signed version as you mention.
It was not listed as a Remarque -will try to get photo on soon.

[boris]

Sorry about quality but here is a full shot of the print and also the sketch on the bottom.

[boris]

Here is the small sketch that did not upload - sorry

[strix1998]

As there seems to have been no formal remarque issue presume it was a one off (?) any idea of its history from the seller.............presumably the print is numbered as one of the 1500.................

[prune]

IIRC,when Taylor first became popular in the early 80s,there were no set amount of remarques,a buyer would just request one.As remarks became more sought after they had to limit the numbers (of remarques).

[boris]

As there seems to have been no formal remarque issue presume it was a one off (?) any idea of its history from the seller.............presumably the print is numbered as one of the 1500.................

I did send off an email to the seller,as there was no certificate,asking for more info but as yet I have not had a reply.
One of the sites I was searching I am sure said that they were not individually numbered but did have a certificate.
On the back of the Sharkey Ward signed Harrier by Taylor I won there was the certificate which stated 1 of 1500 again not numbered
With not seeing another Task Force print I do not know if this makes a difference but the main print has a date of July 82, next to the signature by Taylor below the sketch is dated 83.The Moore signature is higher up to the right,as shown on first photo.

[boris]

IIRC,when Taylor first became popular in the early 80s,there were no set amount of remarks,a buyer would just request one.As remarks became more sought after they had to limit the numbers (of remarks).

Does that mean he would have done all of these with the same Sea King sketch or could you choose your own design.

[david cotton]

My latest Robert Taylor :) Not my normal cup of tea, as its lacks any action. However , it was dirt cheap and has some good signatures :)

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/101_0446.jpg

[kevjb64]

My latest Robert Taylor :) Not my normal cup of tea, as its lacks any action. However , it was dirt cheap and has some good signatures :)

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/101_0446.jpg

Moggie alert , 4 'o clock , open fire . ;)

[Red 2]

Aaah, that Mog is on the recon, he'll be back later under cover of darkness.:D

Oh and DC....away to look for that Spit print...;)

[david cotton]

Aaah, that Mog is on the recon, he'll be back later under cover of darkness.:D

Oh and DC....away to look for that Spit print...;)

You mean this one :D

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/BattleForBritain.jpg

[Red 2]

Aaaaaaahhh..........rather nice.:cool:

[david cotton]

Aaaaaaahhh..........rather nice.:cool:

Yep, and its over the same area as Open Assult...... a pair if ever there was one :)

[david cotton]

Steinhoff Tribute is also set above Dover :) ....could go for all 3 then :eek:

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/steinhoff.jpg

[minter]

You mean this one :D

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/BattleForBritain.jpg

theres something about those spit wings that bothers me, dont look right

[Agent X20]

Wrong shape and no dihedral..? I prefer his Combat over London Spit and 109.... should have bought that when they were floggin them off for £60 in that art shoppe in Bedford..

[Red 2]

theres something about those spit wings that bothers me, dont look right

Would agree.....maybe Corgi use this to model their Mk 1:D

Still a pic with some atmosphere though and I wouldn't say know if Mrs R2 presented it to me as a Valentines Day pressie...ok dreaming again!

[david cotton]

Wrong shape and no dihedral..? I prefer his Combat over London Spit and 109.... should have bought that when they were floggin them off for £60 in that art shoppe in Bedford..


Its the right shape for a Spitfire undergoing positive G, which causes the wings to bend down by a few degrees :D

[Red 2]

Aaah...that explains it:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: ...away to remove the dihedral from my 1/32 Spifires.

And as for my Stukas, they have clearly been overdone, where is my hammer?:LOL

[Agent X20]

... wouldnt positive g would bend em up...?:D

[Red 2]

... wouldnt positive g would bend em up...?:D

Oh hell's teeth, I've only just bent them all that way. Now, where did I put that hammer...

[ascot]

been away for a while but just noticed the Moggie alert nice cat but it is more like 10 oclock glad you are not my wingman kevjb64:LOL:

[kevjb64]

been away for a while but just noticed the Moggie alert nice cat but it is more like 10 oclock glad you are not my wingman kevjb64:LOL:

According to where you are shouting from I suppose but if I put my watch on that P38 , from my chair that feline is spot on 4 ' o 'clock .;) :D

[ascot]

Ah ha good job you don't fly fighters:LOL: cos the poor pilot would be looking the wrong way :D

[Grim Reaper]

Salvaged these from a 2008 calender

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/gaelicstar/Taylor/img002.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/gaelicstar/Taylor/img003.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/gaelicstar/Taylor/img007.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/gaelicstar/Taylor/img008.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/gaelicstar/Taylor/img005.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/gaelicstar/Taylor/img006.jpg
hope you enjoy I`ve managed to salvage all 12

[Dutchie]

Very nice Grim R. Thanks:cool: :)

[david cotton]

I am very tempted by Strike and Strike again :) My local shop has one at a very good price, and I am thinking that I might take it off his hands at the weekend.

Its one of those prints that you have to have a good look at, to decide weather you like it or not.......I like it, but I'm not sure if I want to spend £100 on it plus the framing :unsure:

Grims' calander prints have got me thinking that I might just go for it....... but there is so much to spend on these days....and so little money :(

[zed550]

I am very tempted by Strike and Strike again :) My local shop has one at a very good price, and I am thinking that I might take it off his hands at the weekend.

Its one of those prints that you have to have a good look at, to decide weather you like it or not.......I like it, but I'm not sure if I want to spend £100 on it plus the framing :unsure:

Grims' calander prints have got me thinking that I might just go for it....... but there is so much to spend on these days....and so little money :(
had a look at the original painting and it was stunning:)

[Grim Reaper]

to entice
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/gaelicstar/Taylor/img009.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/gaelicstar/Taylor/img010.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/gaelicstar/Taylor/img011.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/gaelicstar/Taylor/img012.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/gaelicstar/Taylor/img013.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/gaelicstar/Taylor/img014.jpg

[david cotton]

had a look at the original painting and it was stunning:)....But would you spend £100 on the LE print :unsure:

That Stuka print is a very mundane effort by Taylor. However, he has more that made up for it with Open Assult :)

[minter]

the beau one is stunning, mundane stuka! but what a study of the type

[Grim Reaper]

Thought I would post a couple more

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/gaelicstar/Taylor/img015.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/gaelicstar/Taylor/img016.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/gaelicstar/Taylor/img017.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/gaelicstar/Taylor/img018.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/gaelicstar/Taylor/img019.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s126/gaelicstar/Taylor/img020.jpg

[datacroft]

Still prefer this one though.
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/datacroft/Models/f.jpg

[Grim Reaper]

Very clever data but it looks like he is about to land in a crop field :D and come a cropper :LOL:

[Sailor.]

It looks like he is about to land in a crop field :D and come a cropper :LOL:


:wacko: Oh dear... how sad! :wacko:

[Agent X20]

:wacko: Oh dear... how sad! :wacko:

... see the Yorkshire branch of The Samaritans is alive and well.....:) empathy... whasssat..?

Least Data aint breaking every copywright rule in the book.... mind you they wont prosecute Grim... he's too old... and his stilettos would damage the court parke flooring...:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

[david cotton]

I have been matching a mint copy of Robert Taylors JG52, on Ebay. BIN was £1500 :eek: , and the bidding ended at around £1250.....with reserve not met :eek:

What do people see in this print :unsure: , It has very good signatures for sure :cool: , but why does it demand such big wadds of cash :unsure:

For the money asked, you could get the BoB trilogy :eek:

[david cotton]

Took my Sstrike and Strike again in for framing today..... Olive conservation mount, preservation glass, no trimming of print......£160 :eek: ....and I only paid £95 for the print :wacko:

Tonight I look on Ebay and see Winters Welcolm, by Robert Taylor, £40 BIN......and I did, and I did it fast :D

Not been a bad couple of months for snapping up RT bargins :)

[minter]

nice one you lucky swine ;)

[david cotton]

There is a Tommy Leader print and book, with only 10 hours to go, on Ebay for £50.

I bid on the last one and got it for £50, as there were no other bids. This could be a bargin. The signatures are very good and the print is a nice one. :)

[prune]

Band of Brothers and Dak fans are gonna like RTs next release;)

[david cotton]

Band of Brothers and Dak fans are gonna like RTs next release;)


Not sure about this one :unsure: I have only seen small pics on the web, but the para troopers look a bit small.

[minter]

well, is this aiming for the american market? would rather have seen a british contribution, ie stirlings towing horsas or something

[Kubikali]

Robert Taylors Air Combat Paintings Volumes, would these be a good introduction to his work? Do they do justice to the actual prints (too expensive to give it a try) ?

[Agent X20]

I think they are.... thing is with Taylor he does have such a massive catalogue now, its very difficult to decide which are the ones you would like on your wall and gawd help you if its some of the early German stuff as it will cost you a fortune...

As to whether they they do justice to the prints, in some ways I think the Volumes are better, as many of the photos (I gather) are taken from the originals.. Personally I like Swansong... the two 190's.... in the book its a very colourful number, comparing the print, it (to me (and from new)), the print looks washed out...

Therefore the Volumes IMHO are excellent.. specially as a 'small room' reading...

[minter]

they are a good indicator of how much his work has improved from Vol 1 to vol4 you can really see the differences

[Agent X20]

.. certainly can.. although a lot of the early stuff was £4.95 to buy courtesy of the Daily Telegraph.. and that included such siggies as Bader/Galland/Morgan/Tuck/Cheshire.....:D

.....and no doubt the pencil variants are now being chopped up for these pricier prints..:(

Funny in that I prefer Coulsons earlier stuff, but Taylors later....:wacko:

[Kubikali]

I will give a volume or two a try!

[Agent X20]

Its also got black and white pencil drawings in some of the volumes, so your little one will be able to do colouring in ...when you are away at the office....:D

[Kubikali]

:LOL:

Pink & purple camo, why not!!

[boris]

Robert Taylors Air Combat Paintings Volumes, would these be a good introduction to his work? Do they do justice to the actual prints (too expensive to give it a try) ?

These are an excellent introduction to his works and good quality as mentioned so thereby lies 2 options.

The first is to collect all volumes and keep them for reference or
The second is sacrilege and cut out the pictures you like the best - I could never afford all the real things - get a standard frame opening size 300 x 241, a mount and you have a nice collection which does not take up a lot of space.


I bought Paperback Volume 2 and volume 4 off the bay for £3.20 and Amazon for £6.00 advertised as creased covers so I did not feel guilty about cutting them up.


As you can see I chose option 2 though I do have the Masterworks hardback signed by Galland and Robert Taylor which will never get cut up.Now looking for a cheap version of Volume 3 for more Pacific War paintings.


I do have 2 originals which if you wait there are bargains on Ebay Sharkey Ward signed Harrier was £10 and the Falkland Task Force Remarque £40 both fully framed.

Waiting for a new frame for the Falkland Sea king to go with my main Falkland collection

See pictures below.

[david cotton]

I love the RT art books, and I have all 5 volumes, but not the Master Works one :(

Cutting the pictures out is a good idea and allows you to see the prints on a daily basis.

I think there is a big improvement in RT's work after Volume 1. I find I hardly ever look at V1, but all the other volums get equel viewing.

I like some of RT's Pacific Theatre stuff and I have a couple of them. Fighting Tigers and Valour In The Pacific. Only thing with the PTO is that the prints can be very blue in colour. Bright blue sky, bright blue see, and navy blue aircraft.:)

[ascot]

Well done Boris for your 2 originals for £50 I saw a couple of originals in Aces High at £40,000 each so you have got a real bargain there mate :rolleyes:

[boris]

Well done Boris for your 2 originals for £50 I saw a couple of originals in Aces High at £40,000 each so you have got a real bargain there mate :rolleyes:

When I said originals I meant original "print" sorry to have mislead.

[david cotton]

Here is a picture of Strike and Strike again, that I got framed a while ago. Picked the print up half price :)

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/101_0538.jpg

[kevjb64]

Very nice . :)

[minter]

half price!! nice one

[david cotton]

This one is Winter's Welcome . I picked it up on Ebay for £40 (Unframed). The print had been cutdown and was a bit sticky on the back, but this cannot be seen after framing.

I did not go for preservation glass on this one, so the framing was £95. So we are looking at £135 all up and on the wall :)

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/101_0545.jpg

Its a nice print, and one that I have liked for many a year. Its really a bit of a giant christmas card :D

[minter]

40 notes, another bargain

[kevjb64]

Nice price . :)

[david cotton]

40 notes, another bargain

I don't think it could be sold for much more than £40, as it is cut down and sticky on the back. However, its not faded, so it looks fine all framed up.

Makes you see how easy it would be to buy a mint looking framed print, and find its not so good behind the fame.

Not such a problem if you are buying a framed print and you want to keep it in that frame, but a real pit fall if you are going to chuck the frame and expect to find a mint print behind it.:(

[david cotton]

I see their is a Knights Of The Eastern Front on Ebay for just over £1000 :eek:

Item number: 280360048095

The listing says its in Mint condition, but the photo's don't seem to show that.
I am looking at the cert as well, and that looks like it has some staining on, maybe from being in a plastic pocket.

I have one of these prints myself, and it is one of Taylors best. However, I don't think I would ever spash out a grand for one :eek:

[kevjb64]

I see he has yet another new print out , how many is that this year ??



http://www.aceshighgallery.co.uk/pinfo/1489

Think I will pass on this , like the subject but would have been better in colour . :)

[kevjb64]

It is interesting to see , as in the diecast world , how print runs have come down over the last 10 odd years . 1500 was once the norm it seems , now 500 is more usual . :)

[minter]

I see he has yet another new print out , how many is that this year ??



http://www.aceshighgallery.co.uk/pinfo/1489

Think I will pass on this , like the subject but would have been better in colour . :)

interesting one, and its nice to see a piece on the british side of things, the print world seems very heavily one sided on the 101st/82 airborne, sometimes you wouldnt think the british had any paratroopers, or glider troops there

[Red 2]

I see he has yet another new print out , how many is that this year ??



http://www.aceshighgallery.co.uk/pinfo/1489

Think I will pass on this , like the subject but would have been better in colour . :)

I'm going for this one. I actually prefer some pencil prints to the 'full colour' versions.

Not many Halifax prints around and I have a sneaky feeling that this Halifax/Glider combo may be particularly relevant at an event in the future.....;)

[Agent X20]

interesting one, and its nice to see a piece on the british side of things, the print world seems very heavily one sided on the 101st/82 airborne, sometimes you wouldnt think the british had any paratroopers, or glider troops there.. surprised they aint got Richard Todd in there with the siggies... hope hes alright....:)

[Red 2]

.. surprised they aint got Richard Todd in there with the siggies... hope hes alright....:)

Believe he has cut back on his activities but still very much with us!

[minter]

.. surprised they aint got Richard Todd in there with the siggies... hope hes alright....:)

yes thats right, he was there in the thick of it, seem to forget that sometimes as hes potrayed as the cinema "face" of guy gibson

[Red 2]

Band of Brothers arrived today.....lovely print.:)

Pay cut means it will have to the last for a while but what a glorious point at which to pause....

Now, just have to add 20+ sigs at the Elvington event to those already on it and it'll be ready for framing.

[david cotton]

Band of Brothers arrived today.....lovely print.:)

Pay cut means it will have to the last for a while but what a glorious point at which to pause....

Now, just have to add 20+ sigs at the Elvington event to those already on it and it'll be ready for framing.

Is it this one :unsure:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/CIMG1550.jpg

Not a lot of room for signatures :D

[Red 2]

Not a lot of room for signatures :D

Ten down, 20 to go.....:LOL:

[david cotton]

I took Tommy Leader down to the framers today. :) As soon as its back I will put a photo on here.

I picked this one up for £50 with the book, but the book was terrible. However, I do like the print as it has a good feeling of speed and shows the Hurricanes from good angle.

The composition of the aircraft reminds me of the scene in Independence Day, when Will Smith and his wing man are being chased in their Hornets :unsure: ......I wonder if Robert Taylor would do an alien spacecraft in pursuit as a Remarque for me :unsure:

[kevjb64]

Have just spent most of the day trying to find the tribute 18 Sig version of ' Dawn Eagles Rising ' , what recession , matted one also totally sold out ??:rolleyes: Finally tracked down the last 3 in the world by the sound of it , brought 1 . :)

[david cotton]

Have just spent most of the day trying to find the tribute 18 Sig version of ' Dawn Eagles Rising ' , what recession , matted one also totally sold out ??:rolleyes: Finally tracked down the last 3 in the world by the sound of it , brought 1 . :)

Your print collection is expanding very quickly :eek:

What has triggered this sudden love of fine art :unsure:

I am glad that I have a companion on this road to ruin :D

[kevjb64]

Your print collection is expanding very quickly :eek:

What has triggered this sudden love of fine art :unsure:

I am glad that I have a companion on this road to ruin :D

The prospect of having a female addition to the house in 2010 on a permanent basis , who says she does not mind my hobby but better to be safe than sorry and buy everything I want now , 15 prints to go . :rolleyes: Though of course the news that the curtain ring has been put off till August ( again , problems with the gem cutter apparently :rolleyes: ;) ) as I have done several K on prints may change all that . :D

[kevjb64]

Your print collection is expanding very quickly :eek:

What has triggered this sudden love of fine art :unsure:

I am glad that I have a companion on this road to ruin :D

Also snapped up Front line Hurricanes and the 101st Airborne Edition ( 21 sigs ) of Road to the Rhine in time for Sat . :)

[david cotton]

Also snapped up Front line Hurricanes and the 101st Airborne Edition ( 21 sigs ) of Road to the Rhine in time for Sat . :)

Front Line Hurricane is on offer is not one of my favorites, even with the 2 companion prints. I turned it down, even when offered it for £100 :eek:

However, I do like Road To The Rhine........but the 21 Sig version is way out of my budget.

Can I interest you in a Knights Of The Eastern Front or Hartman Tribute :D ....... framed in preservation glass................or a nice RT V5 with US print :D

[kevjb64]

Front Line Hurricane is on offer is not one of my favorites, even with the 2 companion prints. I turned it down, even when offered it for £100 :eek:

However, I do like Road To The Rhine........but the 21 Sig version is way out of my budget.

Can I interest you in a Knights Of The Eastern Front or Hartman Tribute :D ....... framed in preservation glass................or a nice RT V5 with US print :D

I have brought it for a specific reason which will become clear in the following months ;) , thanks but no thanks , those 3 not on my list of wants . :)

[kevjb64]

However, I do like Road To The Rhine........but the 21 Sig version is way out of my budget.



Apparently it is now the 18 Sig version to be more precise , as the BoB's ain't as close as they were during WWII and in a row over who gets what 3 have refused to sign , no price cut for us though . ;)

[david cotton]

I have brought it for a specific reason which will become clear in the following months

A diabolical master plan :eek: ….. I like the sound of that :)

Who were the 3 that dropped out of TRTTR print........thats a £465 print.....£565 if its the AP :eek:

[Red 2]

I have brought it for a specific reason which will become clear in the following months ;) , thanks but no thanks , those 3 not on my list of wants . :)

Kev's Aviation Gallery opens its doors.....:LOL:

[david cotton]

Kev's Aviation Gallery opens its doors.....:LOL:

Red 2 is not doing to bad of the aviation print front either......thinks I :unsure: :D

I am looking at The Road To The Rhine flyer at this moment.....and it looks good :) ..........then I look at Closing The Gap.........and it looks good to ....... oh what to do...what to do :wacko:

[Red 2]

Must admit I preferred the pencil concept print of Road to the Rhine to the painted version. A lovely print but something about the front C-47 just wasn't quite right, think it was the perspective of the rear of the aircraft.

That is the joy of browsing in the various galleries, pulling apart paintings that I could only dream of producing myself! :LOL:

My 'Band of Brothers' signed prints are modest Richard Taylor prints but I'll be completing their sigs on Saturday courtesy of Vector at Legends. And picking up a Saunders print from Aces High long ordered and paid for (thank gawd!) but never picked up.

[david cotton]

And picking up a Saunders print from Aces High long ordered and paid for (thank gawd!) but never picked up.

Spill the beans man :unsure: which print was it :)

[Red 2]

Spill the beans man :unsure: which print was it :)

A Welcome Return.:)

[david cotton]

A Welcome Return.:)

A very classic B17 pose in that print :)

I am a little tempted by Out Of Fuel and Saftly Home, by Robert Taylor.

Some of the B17 prints, over British country side, look like the back ground was painted by one of the old masters:)

[kevjb64]

A Welcome Return.:)

Nice , as far as B17 prints and RT go , am thinking one of the Schweinfurt raids is a must . :)

[david cotton]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/Prints/IMG_0008.jpg
Little Friends , which came with volume 5 RT print book:) An Ebay job....got greedy and ended up with 2 prints and 2 books :o
The matted signatures are from a Trudgian print called Dawn Chorus that I won on Ebay..... but it was damaged too badly to frame. Did a deal with the seller and kept it for the signatures, 3 of which flew P51's and all were little Friends :) Very happy with the way this one turned out.
I like the grim look of this one. It was a bl00dy battle and this print feels very real.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/Prints/IMG_0007.jpg

Tommy Leader , a nice Battle Of Britain print :) £50 with book on Ebay.......but the book is awful due to poor editing. Framed in preservation glass....... sorry about my reflection (Vampires would do well at this).
I love the feel of speed on this one and it has a gritty 'after the battle' feel to it. :)

[kevjb64]

Both look very nice . :)

[david cotton]

Both look very nice . :)

Just found out that all the signatures on Dawn Chorus were also P51 pilots. Feel even more happy with Little Friends now.

The B17 in Little Friends is ' A Bit Of Lace'...........Kev take note :)

[david cotton]

I see there is a bidder for the 21 prints on Ebay, starting bid £3000 :eek:

Looking at the list, 'Lancaster Under Attack ' has to be the star prize :)

I wonder how many of the prints will end up being sold individually on Ebay :unsure:

It says that some have been stored in their tubes, I hope they are still OK :eek:

[prune]

Looking at the list, 'Lancaster Under Attack ' has to be the star prize :)




Last flight home has always been very sought after as well.
For 3 grand I'd want the back off the framed prints to check them though.

[david cotton]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/Diecast/airplanepictures_2064_144021624.jpg

Its Called Phantom Fury, and it looks good. Only 2 sigs though.
Not as good as Phantom Strike, but better than Phantom Showtime, in my opinion :)

[strix1998]

on the wants list:)

[david cotton]

Picked this one up on Ebay, last month. It came framed like this, but there was no COE. However, it only cost £126 and postage was free :D
I had been after one of these for years, and was thinking that I would have to spend out around £300 to get one...... so I am more than a little happy :)

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/Prints/IMG_0074.jpg

[prune]

A real bargain and looks great in a double mount.

[david cotton]

A real bargain and looks great in a double mount.

I might be taking out of the frame its in :o ......it does not store well.....and I want to see the state of the print.

I am not sure about doublke mounts yet.....I like the simple plain look.....but I have been known to change my mind :D

[strix1998]

I might be taking out of the frame its in :o ......it does not store well.....and I want to see the state of the print.

I am not sure about doublke mounts yet.....I like the simple plain look.....but I have been known to change my mind :D

work very well when carefully matched-a light outermount with a dark inner will literally make the subject stand out of the picture. An alternative is to use a colour cored mount which is a single mount typically light in colour with a dark interior so that when the mount bevel is cut a dark strip is set between the light colour and subject providing a similar result to a double mount but at reduced cost

[david cotton]

Some time ago I was close to buying "Chance Encounter". Am I wrong in concluding that that one is quite unique in subject for Robert Taylor!?

There is one on Ebay at the moment 330358087131

Starting bid £75.

Could be a chance to own one :)

[david cotton]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/Prints/IMG_0083.jpg

Here is swansong, a print that I picked up from a forum member a few weeks back.:)

I have had original frame changed, as it was chrome and I like wood look

I have also gone for a double mount, to make the print standout more :)

[Agent X20]

Dunno why, but one of my Taylor favourites..:)

[david cotton]

Dunno why, but one of my Taylor favourites..:)

For me its the way he has done the sky :)

[strix1998]

reframed DC:)

[knockando]

Picked this one up on Ebay, last month. It came framed like this, but there was no COE. However, it only cost £126 and postage was free :D
I had been after one of these for years, and was thinking that I would have to spend out around £300 to get one...... so I am more than a little happy :)



AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH HHH, been after this beauty for ages, never seen it for under £500. Please Mr Cotton tell me it was really badly listed or I will kick the cat, (only joking pet lovers) I regularly check ebay for Taylors and Trudgians. Hats off to you sir for such a win.

[david cotton]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH HHH, been after this beauty for ages, never seen it for under £500. Please Mr Cotton tell me it was really badly listed or I will kick the cat, (only joking pet lovers) I regularly check ebay for Taylors and Trudgians. Hats off to you sir for such a win.


I just put in Robert Taylor and ticked the box to :)

There it was, :eek: I put a maximum bid of £200 in and hoped for the best. For once the best happened and I won it at £126:D

The framing in very good and it arrived in perfect condition. It is now on the wall and very nice it looks to.

I had been after it for years and never thought I would get one......now if the same thing could happed with a Lancaster Under Attack, my year would be made :)

[Daywalker]

[QUOTE=david cotton;305321

I had been after it for years and never thought I would get one......now if the same thing could happed with a Lancaster Under Attack, my year would be made :)[/QUOTE]

True words. Lancaster under attack is the top one on my wish list:) :rolleyes:

[david cotton]

I decided to go for a U boat print this time

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/Prints/against_all_odds.jpg

Its the 7 sig version.

I think this is a very good U boat print and I like the way the action around the conning tower is centre stage.

It makes you realise how alone a crew was , when operating deep sea. If you get sunk or shotdown, there is not much hope of being saved :(

[prune]

Nice,Taylors air/sea combinations are superb.

[kevjb64]

I see RT is launching the VI volume of his ' Air Combat Paintings ' Books at Aces High Gallery on the 21st / 22nd November . It comes in two formats which I will list separately . :)

[david cotton]

I have decided that I am going to change all my Framed Taylor prints to Conservation Glass.

This is not as big a task as one would think. I actually did the same thing maybe 20 years ago, and kept the habbit up. However, now and then I slip into cheap skate mode, and tey to save £60 on the framing.

I now have about 6 good Taylors without the conservation glass. I thought that it would not matter, as I do a lot of crop rotaion. However, I have found it does. I am always worried about them fadding.

I must say, the problem with prints is that you have to care for them all the time. You cannot just bag them and put them in the loft. They are real hard work.

[prune]

I must say, the problem with prints is that you have to care for them all the time. You cannot just bag them and put them in the loft. They are real hard work.

You're right there,I sometimes wonder why I bother with them.A lot of people will be shocked when they find that their badly stored/framed prints are ruined.Problem is they will end up on the bay so its buyer beware.

[minter]

I must say, the problem with prints is that you have to care for them all the time. You cannot just bag them and put them in the loft. They are real hard work.

that is such a shame ,you would think with modern printing techniques that they would be a bit more durable

[david cotton]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/Diecast/airplanepictures_2064_144021624.jpg

Its Called Phantom Fury, and it looks good. Only 2 sigs though.
Not as good as Phantom Strike, but better than Phantom Showtime, in my opinion :)

Good enougth to buy :) My Phantom Fury arrived today. I will wait till after Christmas to frame it :)

[Phantomf4collector]

Good enougth to buy :) My Phantom Fury arrived today. I will wait till after Christmas to frame it :)

Hi David, I too have all three of Robert Taylor's Phantom f4 prints.
Phantom Strike is my favorite too.

I hope Robert Taylor does another series with Phantoms.

Merry Christmas to you.
Paul

[david cotton]

I hope Robert Taylor does another series with Phantoms.

Merry Christmas to you.
Paul

Hi Paul
What we need is a Phantom in air to air combat :)

However, I still need to get Rolling Thunder :D

[david cotton]

My Christmas present to myself was a re-frame of my Struggle For Supremacy.

I bought it framed on Ebay for £123.....or around that price :) . It was very well framed, but I did not like the large chunky frame or the light colored outer mount. The glass was also standard glass and I wanted to upgrade it to UV preservation glass.

So I have had it re framed, with preservation, an Olive Drab mount and the frame that I have most of my prints framed in.

This is the before picture :-

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/Prints/IMG_0074.jpg


and this is how it is now, with the new frame :-

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/Prints/IMG_0234.jpg

I bet most people will prefer the old frame :D

[ZS-VAN]

I reckon I'll go with your rendition. ;)

[prune]

I bet most people will prefer the old frame :D

I prefer the double mount though:D

[david cotton]

I prefer the double mount though:D

Maybe a black lower mount :unsure: ..... but it costs an extra £20 :eek:

[david cotton]

A Viper Venom was on Ebay for £75 befor Christmas, and no one bid.....poor little Viper :(

Well it returned after Christmas, at £50 starting price........and I felt sorry for the homeless snakey one ....so I bid......and won it for £64 :) ......which is £72 after postage.:(

So this is a pic of what I have won.......and I should get the poisonous Snake by the end of next week. The seller is a good one, so I'm hoping for good things.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/Diecast/Viper-venom.jpg

You know when you buy a die cast for no other reason that is being a bargin :rolleyes: .......well I have done the same here :o ....... I don't even like the F16 :eek:

[strix1998]

for that DC-like you still on the lookout for Rolling Thunder:)

[david cotton]

for that DC-like you still on the lookout for Rolling Thunder:)

Very much on the lookout for a Rolling Thunder.....got to be in A1 condition, but don't mind if the marks are hidden when framed :)

However, will probably buy a new one in the near future. I have grown to like this print more and more :)

[david cotton]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/Diecast/IMG_0243.jpg

It arrived to day, and it is in excellent condition :)

The colours are not quite the same a the advert, the picture is less blue. with more reds in the cloud. I am very happy with it.

I am now torn between getting Rolling Thunder next or Matt Hall's A New Dawn :unsure:

[strix1998]

a snip David:)

[david cotton]

a snip David:)

Could well happen.....if the wife finds out :eek:

[david cotton]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/Diecast/IMG_0248.jpg

Bagged this on Ebay for £74, and that includes postage :)

I'm not normally a sun rise man, but this one I do like.

Its quite a small print, and it only has 4 aircrew sigs.

I would like to get some more Tirpitz aircrew sigs to mate to it when it is framed.
:)

[Martin Bull]

That looks nice - a bargain, too ! :cool:

[kevjb64]

That looks nice - a bargain, too ! :cool:

Agreed . :)

[david cotton]

That looks nice - a bargain, too ! :cool:

The wife likes it to.....so it might be able to go where other prints can't ;) .......maybe even the front room :eek:

I have a couple more prints arriving next week. :) Rolling Thunder...to satisfy my Nam desires. One of the sigs is also a MOH winner..... I do love MOH sigs:)

The other is a Matt Hall print called A New Dawn, which is Blackhawk helicopters in Afghanistan. This is only signed by the artist, but it is a hell of a print. It took a long time to find a place that sold it in England, as it is distributed by Valor in the USA. They also have A Higher Call and other Valor studio releases, so I have asked for a price list. :)

[david cotton]

The HM Thud got me interested in the Thud again. So much that I decided I wanted a good picture of one. So I got this :)

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee310/david_cotton/Diecast/IMG_0253.jpg

Its Robert Taylors Rolling Thunder, and its been around for quite some time now. It has 4 good signatures and the brush work detail is very good. I think RT put a lot more into his older works, and this print fall into his older work bracket for me:)

I would recommend this print to anyone. It comes up on Ebay a lot, and they usually sell for under £100, so you could get a bargin :)

[hibbo765]

Hi Forumites....... am new to this so please bear with me. Clearing out the garage over the weekend and came across the Taylor print along with certificate of authenticity of the four signatures that are on show.

Is this now a sought after Taylor print?, I have so many now and only a few are on show:)

[prune]

Hello hibbo and welcome to the forum.Tangmere wing is a very collectable print,the last one signed by Bader(unless Agent knows different;) ) IIRC it was stored away and issued about 20 years after his death.
One thing though,condition is all so I hope your garage is nice and dry.

[david cotton]

Looking at Ebay today, there are some real high priced secondary market Robert Taylor prints up for sale.

Broken silence ....£950

Eagles Out Of The Sun with companion print .....looks poorly framed......but has 1 bid at £750.

D Day the Airborne assault ...American Museum Edition....£800

Last Moment Of The Hood......£700

Dambuster....the very first on........£500

D Day the Airborne assault ...with companion prints...£475

It will be interesting to see if there are any takers. These are all high starting prices, so I think they are hoping for that one person who has been after the print for a long time.