Corgi A10 chat

[zed550]

:( oh dear:( dont look like £52 worth of diecast:wacko:
see the tool makers trowel has been out again.not a wise move at all:confused:

[hawker]

I like the Corgi - A10 but there should be more armament under the wings

[raddger]

Pictures on the mule didn't look toooo horrific.

Boarding ladder a nice touch...

Need some side by side by side shots with HM version....

[Merlin G.C.]

:( oh dear:( dont look like £52 worth of diecast:wacko:
see the tool makers trowel has been out again.not a wise move at all:confused:

Am not impressed at all with Cornby's A-10 releases:( Was expecting something much better, and at that price wanna bet how many will be dumped in the near future?:confused:

[raddger]

HAving looked at CFBC's photos and without counting rivets, IMPO it doesn't look to bad.

Lack of stores is not unusual for corgi.

Price compared to a corgi vampire (or CW F-8) is about right.

Biggest problem it is always going to have is the fact the HM got there first, made it cheaper and added a shed-load of stores.

Would we being so harsh if it had been released 18 months ago?

Just my 10 cents worth.....

[zed550]

i would,to relaunch the brand they really need to hire a decent tool maker.
all these big joints and the parts breakdown of the tooling is not up to modern day standards.

[raddger]

how long has it been sat gathering dust with all the upheavals...?

Definately need to see comparision shots.

I guess corgi must know it's going to be an uphill battle to sell it in the current market but i can understand that they have to try and re-coup the tooling costs.

Regardless of faults, price will still be the deciding factor anyway.

Anyway, the important question has to be: ARE THE TAIL PLANES HORIZONTAL?? :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

[Wolster]

What I really don't like about this model, and others, is the large pin through the wheels. I presume this is to make them turn. Are they expecting me to push it around the carpet making BRMM-BRMM noises?

:mad:

[Leviathan]

Actually Wolster, that is an extremely good point!

Accuracy should be the order of the day for all the manufacturers! It would also produce cost savings, I am sure!

Less 'rolling rubber' and more 'detailed wheel hubs' would be my preference!


Regards




Leviathan

[raddger]

What I really don't like about this model, and others, is the large pin through the wheels. I presume this is to make them turn. Are they expecting me to push it around the carpet making BRMM-BRMM noises?

:mad:

Yes, that does seem to be a corgi 'trademark'.

Pre-pros of the skyhawk are the same....

[The Defiant Man]

I don't think it is too bad......but not £52 worth, mind. As been said, more stores would have been nice. Poor looking fit between the wings & fuselage is the main negative......panel lines seem more subtle than the HM version though, which is a plus for me......

[Scottuk]

Comparisons

Corgi
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/dljames/Corgi/AA38002%20-%20A10%20Thunderbolt/AA38002-1.jpg

HM
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/dljames/Hobby%20Master/HA1308-41000.jpg

[Craig]

The canpoy does look a little misformed on the Corgi one, but overall I think I prefer it, yes the join is worse on the nose of the Corgi one, but better than the wing join on the HM one, and the panel lines on the Corgi ones are a big plus for me too. Still don't want one at anything above a tenner though... :unsure:

[klepto4]

Huge disappointment on both models here, the looker prize goes to HM's but is still a no no due to the over exaggerated PL's plus the colours seem dodgy.
Corgi's one I'm afraid to say just looks rubbish, even with the reduced PL's. I don't know if it's because of the camera angle but that canopy also doesn't look right and the gap between the fusalage and wing (as TDM and craig have just mentioned) is poor. Mind you there is a gap on HM's one as well it's just a different shape :rolleyes:
So to sum up...... looks like I wont be getting an A10 :(

Perhaps a fiver for one? :wacko:

[planejunky]

And why have they produced a triple launcher for the Mavericks? They were only ever experimental. Re-enforces my recent comments about modern subjects and stores!

Overall I still prefer the HM version, plus I have only room for one.

[p-51d]

The canopy on the Corgi is appalling, and i suppose that's all the ordanance you can expect for 50 notes,:rolleyes:

[planejunky]

The canopy on the Corgi is appalling, and i suppose that's all the ordanance you can expect for 50 notes,:rolleyes:

Agreed, I can't really see why they've missed off the ECM pod and the two Sidewinders.

This is very overpriced and HM still have the lead on this one IMHO. It's only saving grace is the nose gear door, which is in the correct open position unlike the HM one.

Welcome back Corgi, but you missed the boat on this one, you'll have to do much better than this if you really want £50 for a model! I'm sure Corgi's apologists will snap it up, but not for me thanks.

[DCRanger]

Are the Mavericks on the Corgi over sized?

[planenuts]

I'm sticking with Hobby Master for a bunch of reasons!

[p-51d]

Are the Mavericks on the Corgi over sized?

They match the canopy.;)

[kevjb64]

Anyway, the important question has to be: ARE THE TAIL PLANES HORIZONTAL?? :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

Surely no longer an issue as everyone brought a hairdryer to sort the HM ones , so if incorrect an opportunity to get more use out of it !! :rolleyes: :D

[Paul F]

Have only just realised the Cornby new release photos were available...just checked them out.

I quite like the grey version, and might be prepared to overlook the questionable canopy, and even the oversized Mavericks, though not at £52 RRP.

But, for me the real show stopper is:

What I really don't like about this model, and others, is the large pin through the wheels. I presume this is to make them turn. Are they expecting me to push it around the carpet making BRMM-BRMM noises?

:mad:

Sorry, Corgi, those steel pins just scream "Its a TOY, Its a TOY, Its a TOY!" . The other things I can probably overlook, but not those bl00dy pins - they have to be among the worst ever used on a 1/72 Diecast "Adult Collectors Model", surely?

No attempt to hide/disguise them at all, just drill out the wheel hub and leg and drive a bloomin' great lump of stainless steel pin in - Who cares about accuracy!

Come on Hornby, I doubt many kids can afford push-along toys at £52 a pop -so get this basic problem sorted pdq.....

[Scottuk]

Is it just me or does anyone else think the shape of the nose is wrong on these two releases?:confused:

[zed550]

yes,few areas it looks suspect in ,but would need to see both models together to clarify

[scaleplanes]

Is it just me or does anyone else think the shape of the nose is wrong on these two releases?:confused:

It's too square in cross section for starters. One area that it does score on over the HM issue, is that the U/C is the correct size

[scaleplanes]

What I really don't like about this model, and others, is the large pin through the wheels. I presume this is to make them turn. Are they expecting me to push it around the carpet making BRMM-BRMM noises?

:mad:

Maybe it's only me but when there's no one looking........:o :D

[CFBC]

Maybe it's only me but when there's no one looking........:o :D

Maks two of us then, then fly em around the mansion when Mrs CFBC's ate work!

;) :cool

[Scottuk]

We know what CFBC gets up to when no-one is looking:eek:

[scaleplanes]

Maks two of us then, then fly em around the mansion when Mrs CFBC's ate work!

;) :cool

....err, was just checking if it looked right against the sky:D :LOL:

[CFBC]

....err, was just checking if it looked right against the sky:D :LOL:

Nooo... Low fast cat strafe...... One or two passes with the Corgi version and five or six with a "tooled up" HM version! :LOL:

[zed550]

Nooo... Low fast cat strafe...... One or two passes with the Corgi version and five or six with a "tooled up" HM version! :LOL:

but does the cat look like hitler:)

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n243/zed550/kitler1606.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n243/zed550/kitler30.jpg

[scaleplanes]

Shouldn't this post be in the WW2 Warbirds thread?

but does the cat look like hitler:)

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n243/zed550/kitler1606.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n243/zed550/kitler30.jpg

[TankBuster]

As a 100% A-10 fan I have been waiting for Corgi's A-10 for ages & ages!
Now its available I dont want one any more... What a waste of money:( .

HM's version is soooo much better in detail, not to mention the price!!!

Corgi had the opportunity to steal this one, but they gave us a kids toy instead & have got the cheek to ask over £50 for it:mad:

Corgi's A-10 falls into the category of A BDRT aircraft. Dear oh dear:unsure: .

TankBuster

[planejunky]

As a 100% A-10 fan I have been waiting for Corgi's A-10 for ages & ages!
Now its available I dont want one any more... What a waste of money:( .



I know exactly how you feel, I've had the same feeling of utter disapointment on many modern era subjects in the past. ;)

[DCRanger]

Dx yesterday Cornby A10 £45 -50, HM A10 £20.

[planejunky]

Indeed, and yet Corgi still haven't realised that with the cost of living going ballistic, money really does talk!

HM have a better product at less than half the price, nuff said! :LOL:

[Agent X20]

Dx yesterday Cornby A10 £45 -50, HM A10 £20...............Luton FM - £20....

[The Defiant Man]

Dx yesterday Cornby A10 £45 -50, HM A10 £20.

Did the HM have an RRP of £20 (or near)?:unsure:

If not...bit of an unfair comparison.....Corgi's will be £20 in due course.....

[gary ford]

HM A10 RRP is £29.99

Most go for £20.00 to £25.00

[p-51d]

There are pictures of the second Corgi A-10 on the Mules website, same weapon load and same cockpit.

[CFBC]

There are pictures of the second Corgi A-10 on the Mules website, same weapon load and same cockpit.

P51d. Have you also looked here? (http://forums.diecast-aviation.eu/showthread.php?t=9205)

:confused: :)

[p-51d]

P51d. Have you also looked here? (http://forums.diecast-aviation.eu/showthread.php?t=9205)

:confused: :)

Yes , i can't find any on a stand though, the mule has.

[Scottuk]

I really wanted the second Corgi A-10.........Until I saw it in the flesh.

[Arno 01]

Did the HM have an RRP of £20 (or near)?:unsure:

If not...bit of an unfair comparison.....Corgi's will be £20 in due course.....

With over 4500 in the next month, me thinks nearer £10:LOL:

[p-51d]

Pictures are on the mule site of the latest Corgi A-10, if they sell 10 they've done well, 20 AND IT'S A MIRACLE....:LOL:

[kevjb64]

Pictures are on the mule site of the latest Corgi A-10, if they sell 10 they've done well, 20 AND IT'S A MIRACLE....:LOL:

Makes you wonder why they bothered ( especially at this price ) seeing as the HM ones had already been such a disaster . :confused:

[scott]

Makes you wonder why they bothered ( especially at this price ) seeing as the HM ones had already been such a disaster . :confused:

I have two HM A10s and i like then but then they were only £17 each :) , No more for me sorry Corgi

[kevjb64]

I have two HM A10s and i like then but then they were only £17 each :) , No more for me sorry Corgi

I paid full whack for one ( first one I think £24.99 ?? :eek: ) and £ 20 for two at a toy fair a good while later ( not sure which two they are all in the loft , the missus would not lend me the hairdryer ) . :)

[Shamrock]

€67 euro the latest Corgi A-10!!; they're having a larf. I've got two good HMs which will suffice at half the price. I don't give much hope for their A-4s either. For too late for the party(and too dear) IMHO.

[kevjb64]

€67 euro the latest Corgi A-10!!; they're having a larf. I've got two good HMs which will suffice at half the price. I don't give much hope for their A-4s either. For too late for the party(and too dear) IMHO.

Tend to agree . :(

[CFBC]

Tend to agree . :(

Yeah, not good at all... HM are or bascially half the price of the Corgi one if you look around and better... Some of the older A10's from HM are now getting harder to find too despite their small errors....

[kevjb64]

Yeah, not good at all... HM are or bascially half the price of the Corgi one if you look around and better... Some of the older A10's from HM are now getting harder to find too despite their small errors....

Same with a lot of diecast , the full whack , then the outlets with little space or cash flow dump at stupid prices , then they become hard to find . Thought someone may have caught on by now . :rolleyes:

[kevjb64]

I don't give much hope for their A-4s either. For too late for the party(and too dear) IMHO.

Just had a look at a few completed item HM A-4's , they are around the tenner mark , so little hope for Corgi's effort .:)

[klepto4]

Gotta be a contender for the worse model of the year.... it's horrid, I hate it!

[Arno 01]

Gotta be a contender for the worse model of the year.... it's horrid, I hate it!

In-line with the Gemini 23sqn F-4:mad:

[klepto4]

In-line with the Gemini 23sqn F-4:mad:

Yep most Deffo :(

[Craig]

Same with a lot of diecast , the full whack , then the outlets with little space or cash flow dump at stupid prices , then they become hard to find . Thought someone may have caught on by now . :rolleyes:

Yep a dealer friend of mine was rueing the fact he had a dozen anti flash Vulcans he couldn't shift and knocked them out at £15 each. Oops... :o

[kevjb64]

Yep a dealer friend of mine was rueing the fact he had a dozen anti flash Vulcans he couldn't shift and knocked them out at £15 each. Oops... :o

Yep , still the other side of the coin is being caught with carton loads of Orange Phantoms or 1:32 Dauntless . :)

[Dutchie]

The canpoy does look a little misformed on the Corgi one, but overall I think I prefer it, yes the join is worse on the nose of the Corgi one, but better than the wing join on the HM one, and the panel lines on the Corgi ones are a big plus for me too. Still don't want one at anything above a tenner though... :unsure:

Bought today (special offer) a Corgi A-10 - the green sharkmouth:)
It's my first A-10 and I realy like the Corgi. Shape of the canopy, jet engines and wingtips are different from the HM. And typical Corgi paintwork!!
Nice model.:) Craig:)

[TankBuster]

The best die cast A-10 out there is the Franklin Mint 1:48 scale. I liked it so much I got 4 different ones:wacko: .
Jumblies were selling these quite cheap a few months back, I dont know if they have any left? If I remember correctly these were cheaper than the HM models...More metal for your money!

The Corgi effort is not even worth talking about!

TankBuster

[CFBC]

:unsure: Oher now yer pushing the boundaries TB... That's 1/48th scale territory you know! :D

(Although do agree they look good).

[kevjb64]

Bought today (special offer) a Corgi A-10 - the green sharkmouth:)
It's my first A-10 and I realy like the Corgi. Shape of the canopy, jet engines and wingtips are different from the HM. And typical Corgi paintwork!!
Nice model.:) Craig:)

Mmm , early discounts on the hound A-10 .

[gary ford]

In defence of the Lordy in the Phantom thread. Quite a few Traders/Dealers have been saddled with this model due to the fact that their Corgi status esp official Corgi Stockist they have to take them no matter how bad or good a model is.

Hence you get some traders selling a new Corgi models cheap (not just aircraft) just to get rid of them and turn a bit of cash over.

The smaller dealers who buy through the wholesale system and not direct can buy what they want. But some of the larger dealers who are tied into Corgi are going to get a carton of Corgi A4s Like it or lump it.

[Buds-Old-Crow]

I'm looking forward to the Corgit A-10 being dumped (as it surely must be) and then I will buy one. In certain respects I like it more than the HM version. Not worth more than £10 though.

[kevjb64]

I'm looking forward to the Corgit A-10 being dumped (as it surely must be) and then I will buy one. In certain respects I like it more than the HM version. Not worth more than £10 though.

Welcome and same thoughts here , better in some respects / worse in others . Got one full price and two dumped HM , think will go for the full dumped set on the Corgi's . Another ' just 3 ' model for me . :)

[Dutchie]

I'm looking forward to the Corgit A-10 being dumped (as it surely must be) and then I will buy one. In certain respects I like it more than the HM version. Not worth more than £10 though.

Hi Buds-Old-Crow,
if it dumps, you get a good one:)

[Agent X20]

But some of the larger dealers who are tied into Corgi are going to get a carton of Corgi A4s Like it or lump it.
Not a club with a long waiting list to join then.....:(

[The Defiant Man]

I'm looking forward to the Corgit A-10 being dumped (as it surely must be) and then I will buy one. In certain respects I like it more than the HM version. Not worth more than £10 though.

Welcome.....

....even if they are dumped (which I agree, they will be in time), you'll do well to get one at a tenner......good luck though...:D

[strix1998]

but they could be "Corgi Offer of the Week" for many many many weeks.............

[Agent X20]

they will be in time), you'll do well to get one at a tenner.........:D... Dont worry, Brtitains favourite diecast dealer will no doubt come to the rescue.... You'll find him next to Mr Ford's excellent display at a toyfair close to you sometime in 2009...:LOL:

[TankBuster]

Was having a look at the Corgi A-10 again & they have absoloutely 100% nutsed it up. It really is a horror!

What the hell have they done to the hinges on the tailfins? Did they actually do any research and look at an A-10, as they certainly dont look like that!

Also the top of the nose where the refuelling recepticle fits, is too wide & too flat. Nothing like a real A-10! The front nose leg is also too bulky, but I suppose that must have the same disease as the Mavericks, as they too are far too big & look ridiculous under the wings.
Also the cockpit canopy has something odd about it as well, which again doesn't look right when compared to a real A-10.

I have to say that it would seem that Corgis A-10 will be heading for the bins (the dustbins). I really cant believe what a piece of carp they have produced here!

Hobbymaster's A-10 is so much better in every way, so much so that I have ordered another one.

Apologies for my rant, but Corgi should never have released an A-10 looking like that!


TankBuster

[Punks]

Welcome.....

....even if they are dumped (which I agree, they will be in time), you'll do well to get one at a tenner......good luck though...:D

Why buy junk at any price?:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[The Defiant Man]

Why buy junk at any price?:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Well, I don't have any of 'em!:D

Mind you....that's because I don't collect US jets.....and don't know sh*t about the finer details of the A-10.....:D

[TankBuster]

Well, I don't have any of 'em!:D

Mind you....that's because I don't collect US jets.....and don't know sh*t about the finer details of the A-10.....:D Dont worry about not knowing the details of the A-10. Just take a look here at the A-10s & all corgi's c*ck ups will be revealed!
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?engine_version=6.0&search_active=1&search=&sheadline=&domains=Airliners.net&sitesearch=Airliners.net&client=pub-8297169501225184&forid=1&channel=1924797129&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&cof=GALT%3A%23E6E8FA%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23000000%3B VLC%3AE6E8FA%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3A45678C%3BLBGC%3 A45678C%3BALC%3AE6E8FA%3BLC%3AE6E8FA%3BT%3AC4C8CC% 3BGFNT%3AC4C8CC%3BGIMP%3AC4C8CC%3BLH%3A36%3BLW%3A6 39%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fcdn-www.airliners.net%2Fgraphics%2Fopen_file_header_im age.jpg%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.airliners.net%3BFOR ID%3A1%3B&hl=en&search_field=datedesc&q=spangdahlem+a-10&submit=

The biggest c*ck up is the tailfin hinge mounting brackets!

A-10's tailfin...
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Air/Fairchild-OA-10A-Thunderbolt/1411163&tbl=photo_info&photo_nr=2&sok=keyword_%28%5C%27%2B%5C%22spangdahlem%5C%22_%2 B%5C%22a-10%5C%22%5C%27_IN_BOOLEAN_MODE%29%29_&sort=_order_by_photo_id_DESC_&prev_id=1474629&next_id=1390660

Corgi's tailfin...
http://forums.diecast-aviation.eu/showthread.php?t=9203

I cant see where corgi found those bulky hinge mountings on a real A-10 :eek: .

TankBuster

[TankBuster]

I have spent ages looking at the hounds A-10 efforts & the best out of the bad bunch is the 23rd TFS Sharkmouth model, but only due to it's paint scheme.
The worst one is definitely the Spangdahlem one as its colours are nothing like the real thing, and really, Corgi should be ashamed of themselves for that monster!
Personally I prefer the A-10s in the Euro camo scheme anyway :D .

Unfortunately I think we are stuck with Corgi's poor tooling efforts on this one now. Hopefully they can sort it out in the future, but until they do they aint getting a penny of mine for one.
To be honest I havent brought any Corgi models for ages now :eek: .


TankBuster