Corgi's 1/32 Spitfire is GREAT

[Martin Bull]

I really love my 609 Squadron one ( although paid nowhere near RRP ! :rolleyes: )

Now - how about a Johnson Mk IX to fight the 109G ( and maybe an MH434 as well... ;) )

[ACES]

Must agree with you i bought the Bader spit,paid full price but it was worth it ,i just could,nt wait.
And now im waiting to venture into new ground,and get the 'JUMPIN'JAQUES' Mustang when it comes out. :eek:

[plumstix]

Yeah, the Jumpin' Jacques Mustang is definitely on my list.

[davidwford]

Take a look at Big Beautiful Doll, definately the best Mustang so far!

[Agent X20]

Wait til the 1/32 Zero.. that'll be the best...

Vote goes with Mr Bull and the Spit.. fancy a DW-K as per Revell with the oversized letters..

Hopefully they will all be overshadowed by the blue pru Mossie.... coming over the hill... somewhere..

Agent X20

[plumstix]

Closely followed by a 1:32 TSR2. (In my dreams).

[Agent X20]

Yes..

Agent X20

(not a lot more one can say to that... apart from fleets of 1:1 TSR2's would have been better , but we have been there before....)

[snafu]

I'm with David, the 1/32nd BBD is AWESOME

[Typhoon-MKV]

It does look good - but the Bader Spit is still my fav....pride of place on my Shelf....

[minter]

agree with mr bull, iv'e got the 1/32 609 as well,tis one of my favourites,BBD looks nice but just bought 1/72 lanc,so will have to wait. Sorry to sound a bore but a BoB hurricane Please,Laceys would be nice frank carey denis david........ :rolleyes: someone stop me please!!!

[snafu]

Calm yourself Minter :p

Surely Corgi will fulfill your wishes..........maybe!

[raff]

Calm yourself Minter :p

Surely Corgi will fulfill your wishes..........maybe!

Yes do try to keep calm. Perhaps they will ... but I wouldn't hold me breath if I were you.

Re the Spitfire, I've got the "battle scarred" at eye level above my desk.
On it's gear, flaps down, hood back, door open and an engine cover off ....
superb. :rolleyes:
Thanks to St. Nona, it's complete again as well. I think that our "Trex"
[that cooking fat] swallowed a gun panel, but as ever ... one call and two days later .... "Hey Presto"!

raff

[minter]

2005 awaited with nervous anticipation,but i am also very interested in the comments about the 109G 1/32 when it hits us,looks good and am tempted ,but at what price to buy me thinks :rolleyes:

[snafu]

Yes Minter, will it go as low as some of the other 1/32's? My old Dad is still cock a hoop at his 1/32nd scale Old Crow for £25 (Doncaster toy fair)

[Agent X20]

raff.... thats the battle scarred one with the pristine yellow spinner... ace..

minter...........£40 for a 109G.. even less if you are prepared to take a chance... (and they issue the obligatory 2000 plus).

Agent X20

[Typhoon-MKV]

Only one thing I want to see in 1/32.

No Guts - No Glory - Next to BBD - Oh yes......

[Agent X20]

Only one thing I want to see in 1/32.
......

Is Mrs Agent....

... hello dear what you doing down there....??

[raff]

raff.... thats the battle scarred one with the pristine yellow spinner... ace..

minter...........£40 for a 109G.. even less if you are prepared to take a chance... (and they issue the obligatory 2000 plus).

Agent X20

Yup! That's the one!
Not being a purist am easily pleased... but what you don't know is that it's a new spinner just fitted after a nose over .... so there!

raff

[Agent X20]

Kleen helmet...

[minter]

40 quid for the 109! a bobby bargain that, will definatley get,but heres a question. I know all the other 1/32s have dropped in price, 1/32 not the most popular scale maybe, but will that apply to the 109 as its a German model will that make any differnce ?

[Agent X20]

Its all speculation but IMHO the demand for 1/32's will dwindle as peeps run out of space to show em and the 'investors' run out of loft space... I have the Spits (well thats just a rumour) and have put off buying the P51's as the comments about them made on the forums have not been too favourable and its going to be another half a dozen 'big' boxes... So me am waiting for a Mossie.. and may just keep it at one.. owing to the two others having silly paint schemes.. Then theres the possibbility of an Me... (and the obligatory Zero...) so I really do have to curb the collecting desire.. For the likes of Corgi, they are going to run with them in the thousands, the financial model does not work otherwise.. so unless they have the cash flow to store em cos they wont shift 2000 Me's at retail... we is going see em at £40... (They should only be about £50 in the first place..!!)

Sad but I believe true...

[Horrido!]

Don't run out of space - build or move to larger premises, thus making way for Showcase collectors to get a foothold on the property ladder and creating a housing and building boom which in turn will fuel the economy on the back of Corgi releasing 1/32 aircraft models, leading to increased profitability for Corgi and their ability to make a Beaufighter in 1/72 for me.

[minter]

and everyones a winner :D

[snafu]

Only one thing I want to see in 1/32.

No Guts - No Glory - Next to BBD - Oh yes......

Oooooh yes Stealth. Even my 1/72nd pairing looks superb.....1/32nd version :) :) :)

[Agent X20]

Don't run out of space - build or move to larger premises, thus making way for Showcase collectors to get a foothold on the property ladder and creating a housing and building boom which in turn will fuel the economy on the back of Corgi releasing 1/32 aircraft models, leading to increased profitability for Corgi and their ability to make a Beaufighter in 1/72 for me.

Best to keep looking out the front of your house.. cos the men in white coats gonna turn up for you soon...

[Typhoon-MKV]

Don't run out of space - build or move to larger premises, thus making way for Showcase collectors to get a foothold on the property ladder and creating a housing and building boom which in turn will fuel the economy on the back of Corgi releasing 1/32 aircraft models, leading to increased profitability for Corgi and their ability to make a Beaufighter in 1/72 for me.


Get that idea patented now!!!!!!! :D :D :D

[Horrido!]

I think that Mr Stealth is a very nice man, not like that horrid Mr Agent. :p

[Agent X20]

Sod that.. patent that, it becomes popular and then that even more horrid man than me, Gordon, will tax the ****** thing out of existence.. can you imagine.. all that overspray and extra tax.. :(

[philminnion]

I really love my 609 Squadron one ( although paid nowhere near RRP ! :rolleyes: )

Now - how about a Johnson Mk IX to fight the 109G ( and maybe an MH434 as well... ;) )


I am with you on this one, a JE-J Mk IX would be perfect. It would also be a nice fit with the Bader as Johnie Johnson flew and learnt from Bader. I certainly would add that Spitfire to my collection.

philminnion (Canada, eh)

[Agent X20]

FY-F in trial gloss camo....

[CFBC]

I must say that the Brian Lane 1/32nd Spitfire is one of the best done by Corgi in that scale and Tris gone and done it justice too....

Take a peek

http://www.tricatus.co.uk/AA33902a.htm

He's hit the nail on the head after all the talk about it on the Forum.... :D

[G-force]

I think the 1/32 spit is fantastic. I thought they were a bit of a follly before I got one and discovered just how well finished they are. I'm all for more 1/32.

[CFBC]

G-Force.. Have to agree and looking at Tri's pictures has helped also.... Wasn't aware of some of the little things that could be opened or moved!!!! :rolleyes:

[Aces-High]

Agree with comments. Tri's pictures of the weathered Spit are fab. Wonder if Corgi could have gone a little further and mudded up the tyres and dirtied the upper wings more from ground crews. Corgi have done some excellent examples of applying mud to some of their tanks why not this?

[58warren]

Aces, just leave it out in the garden for a few months. Only problem is that the muddy prints left by local cats/foxes etc would be out of scale... :D

[G-force]

Agree with comments. Tri's pictures of the weathered Spit are fab. Wonder if Corgi could have gone a little further and mudded up the tyres and dirtied the upper wings more from ground crews. Corgi have done some excellent examples of applying mud to some of their tanks why not this?

I meant to reply to an earlier thread on this subject. I remember seeing a modelling programme some time ago were the modeller had bought a thing called "spray on dust", might not be proper name but that was it's job. Seems some peeps like to have things in their houses dusty such as wine bottles to make them "authentic". Might be worth trying a specialist decorators shop, or art shop maybe. Anyway, the result on the trains he was spraying looked great, and he just built it up to make it look like dirt and mud. Worth a try?

[charley]

Now that i would welcome Battle scarred and Weathered!!!!! :D Too many 'Museum' examples floating around!!!!

Didn't Corgi do some cars that were battered and worn?? Allegro's and stuff :confused: They always looked cool!

[Aces-High]

Now that i would welcome Battle scarred and Weathered!!!!! :D Too many 'Museum' examples floating around!!!!

Didn't Corgi do some cars that were battered and worn?? Allegro's and stuff :confused: They always looked cool!

Im well with you there. Too much shiny stuff around.
How about different coloured panels and moveable surfaces from damage repairs? Am I getting carried away now? :rolleyes:

[ACES]

The weathered spit looks great,apart from the yellow spinner which looks brand new. :confused:

[Sailor.]

Put a bit of furniture polish on the spinner to matt it down then gently weather with a pastel chalk. When it becomes worth a squillion quid you can wipe the gubbins off and then flog it as a minter. :)

[minter]

you can wipe the gubbins off and then flog it as a minter. :)

i protest!! i am not full of gubbins :mad: i am pristine and shiny

[Sailor.]

I say, sorry old chap. :p

[marcou]

Hi,

some pictures of 3 Corgi's Spitfires

Very beautifule planes , hard to said wich is the best


Marco

[58warren]

Hi marcou, great models aren't they? Think you need a bigger display cabinet :D :D :D

[marcou]

Hi Warren,

I tried to convice my wife to buy another display cabinet but
for the moment her answer is : Don't said that you want to buy
another airplane ? :mad:
Generaly I don't answer to this sort of question, I :rolleyes:

Marco

[spock1]

Generaly I don't answer to this sort of question, I :rolleyes:
:) Wise man !! I am sure Agent will be able to give you counselling on this matter if needed........ ;)

[minter]

all yer need is a hurricane or two.... :rolleyes:

[david cotton]

Its all speculation but IMHO the demand for 1/32's will dwindle as peeps run out of space to show em and the 'investors' run out of loft space... I have the Spits (well thats just a rumour) and have put off buying the P51's as the comments about them made on the forums have not been too favourable and its going to be another half a dozen 'big' boxes... So me am waiting for a Mossie.. and may just keep it at one.. owing to the two others having silly paint schemes.. Then theres the possibbility of an Me... (and the obligatory Zero...) so I really do have to curb the collecting desire.. For the likes of Corgi, they are going to run with them in the thousands, the financial model does not work otherwise.. so unless they have the cash flow to store em cos they wont shift 2000 Me's at retail... we is going see em at £40... (They should only be about £50 in the first place..!!)

Sad but I believe true...

Found this one about to fall off the bottom of the 1/32 threads.

Looks like our Agent X20 was right again :) these words are from August 2004.

[prune]

I'm regretting not doing a dc,and buying a few 1/32 Spits when they had bottomed out at the shows.

[boondogger]

I'm a bit thick about Spits but I was wondering how much work Corgi would have to do to the mould to turn out a MkIX or a MkV. My (admittedly rather limited) understanding is that they'd need to sling another radiator under the wings block up four of the .303 ports and add a couple of cannon with matching bulges on the wing top surfaces. They must have had to alter the wings to produce the later Marks of Hurri we're getting now. Would there be a lot of changes needed to the fuselage that might render the project financially unviable? I'd love a Mark I:) X!

[Craig]

I'm a bit thick about Spits but I was wondering how much work Corgi would have to do to the mould to turn out a MkIX or a MkV. My (admittedly rather limited) understanding is that they'd need to sling another radiator under the wings block up four of the .303 ports and add a couple of cannon with matching bulges on the wing top surfaces. They must have had to alter the wings to produce the later Marks of Hurri we're getting now. Would there be a lot of changes needed to the fuselage that might render the project financially unviable? I'd love a Mark I:) X!
A Mark V might well be possible, but a Mark IX would be a new tooling...

[Shamrock]

There is at least four or five good MkVbs that would 'fly' off the shelves; pardon the pun. Finucane,Tuck, Kent, Zumbach etc. Corgi once again missed the boat on this IMHO. A small bit of re-jigging and they would have had a certified 'banker' I feel.

[prune]

For a MkV the fuselage would be virtually the same,problem is with the wings.
I would have thought any changes to the wing mould would mean no going back to produce a Mk1 again.

[Craig]

For a MkV the fuselage would be virtually the same,problem is with the wings.
I would have thought any changes to the wing mould would mean no going back to produce a Mk1 again.

Yep as I understand it that would be the case. Is there a market for any more MkIs though?

[prune]

Yep as I understand it that would be the case. Is there a market for any more MkIs though?

Maybe,in small runs,2010 being the 70th anniversary of the BoB:unsure:

[Craig]

Maybe,in small runs,2010 being the 70th anniversary of the BoB:unsure:
Possibly, but as far as Spitfires go, there aren't that many worthwhile MkIs left, OK a commemorative piece would be nice, but it'd be the same green/brown, and with quite a few of the legendary pilots done... :confused:

[boondogger]

Seems to me Corgi need to be asking themselves these questions:
a. Are we going to do any more MkI schemes? ie. Is that market already saturated?
b. Could we get any more retrun on our initial investment in mould making by altering it to produce MkVs?
c. How much demand would there be for a MkV?

Poll anyone?

[Red 2]

Corgi know that a Gemini MK 1 is under development so IMPO the existing tooling is, to be blunt, toast in terms of anything other than a budget line.

[kevjb64]

Corgi know that a Gemini MK 1 is under development so IMPO the existing tooling is, to be blunt, toast in terms of anything other than a budget line.

Thats in 1:72 scale though isn't it ?? :confused:

[Red 2]

Thats in 1:72 scale though isn't it ?? :confused:

:o :o :o Yup, I've just awarded myself Dipstick of the Hour Award for not paying attention to the thread.

Away to stand in the dunce's corner.....:LOL:

[CFBC]

Thats in 1:72 scale though isn't it ?? :confused:

Yes, I pm'd him, but too late! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Just canna find the staff nowadays.... :o

[Red 2]

Yes, I pm'd him, but too late! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Just canna find the staff nowadays.... :o

:LOL: Its the forum working hours, the boss, the shorts....I CANNA TAKE ANYMORE CAPTAIN!:LOL:

[kevjb64]

There is at least four or five good MkVbs that would 'fly' off the shelves; pardon the pun. Finucane,Tuck, Kent, Zumbach etc. Corgi once again missed the boat on this IMHO. A small bit of re-jigging and they would have had a certified 'banker' I feel.

So far the 1:32 / 1:35 have been anything but bankers , the people who initially suggested them may well have been certified by now though . The 3 companies that have tried I believe have all had to admit that they lost a s&%t load of dosh entering this scale and also lost ground in other key areas by attempting this scale . None as yet have plans to either bring in new molds or use the old ones again . I think Agents comments are spot on , each new mold sells the first scheme well , the second so-so and the third is a disaster ( and it does not appear to matter if that is a 500 or 5000 run ) . To do a new mold it would appear that you should budget to do no more schemes than 1 every 12 - 18 months , so over say 3 - 4 years you may sell
3000 . If you cannot produce / adapt a mold to make money under those kinda of figures , do not bother .

[david cotton]

So far the 1:32 / 1:35 have been anything but bankers , the people who initially suggested them may well have been certified by now though . The 3 companies that have tried I believe have all had to admit that they lost a s&%t load of dosh entering this scale and also lost ground in other key areas by attempting this scale .

The 1/32 stuff was ground breaking and it produced some of the best die cast I have seen.

What went wrong was the marketing. Corgi flooded the market with more models than the demand. They had a bucket of rare product and emptied it in one big spill.

Once all these models have found homes, I am sure thay will be seen for what they are. 1/32 does have a future, but the market needs to be nurtured, and not swamped :)

[kevjb64]

The 1/32 stuff was ground breaking and it produced some of the best die cast I have seen.

What went wrong was the marketing. Corgi flooded the market with more models than the demand. They had a bucket of rare product and emptied it in one big spill.

Once all these models have found homes, I am sure thay will be seen for what they are. 1/32 does have a future, but the market needs to be nurtured, and not swamped :)

Totally correct , I remember Red 2 explaining at the first Corgi meeting how everyone was prepared to pay RRP for the first Spitfire and happy with the value for money etc . Of course some nth 000's later of various planes now you cannot sell a 500 run without giving it away as GMP have been finding out .

IMPO I think the market has changed though and I am not totally convinced these big scales have a future .

[boondogger]

I think price has got a lot to do with it too. There's a clear relationship between rarity and price. If you think you're buying one of a run of 250 you might be prepared to pay top whack. Rarity inevitably adds value. If you know they've turned out four thousand it's a very different proposition. I'll be really interested to see if HM can make a going concern out of their forthcoming 1/32 line. I gather their overheads are a lot lower than Corgi. Anyway if anyone offered me a 1/32 Spit MkV for around the £80 mark I'd definitely go for it.

[Agent X20]

I think Agents comments are spot on ,

Lofty Agent price guide was available to all....:D :D :D

The think that really buggers all this is that Corgi are copying the kit peeps.. and so they thought that 1/32 was the way forward.. as did Revell. Airfix at 1/24 etc etc...

Yes it was the way forward when I was a kiddie.. I bought every Revell 1/32 I could buy.. love em.. and they really were the pups parts... and model after model was lapped up with the enthusiasm of a hungry hound..

...but I only ever bought ONE of each..... and that is where the pooch hads gone totally off the rails.... they have only done the five types....:( and some of those have been quite dire..... the likes of Revell went for one.. and every time looking back on it, it was the killer (livery) one..

..but the pooch marketing dept knows..:LOL: (. knows **** ***t...:mad: .. and gents it's those idiots that have killed the canine....:mad: )

[Craig]

Lofty Agent price guide was available to all....:D :D :D

The think that really buggers all this is that Corgi are copying the kit peeps.. and so they thought that 1/32 was the way forward.. as did Revell. Airfix at 1/24 etc etc...

Yes it was the way forward when I was a kiddie.. I bought every Revell 1/32 I could buy.. love em.. and they really were the pups parts... and model after model was lapped up with the enthusiasm of a hungry hound..

...but I only ever bought ONE of each..... and that is where the pooch hads gone totally off the rails.... they have only done the five types....:( and some of those have been quite dire..... the likes of Revell went for one.. and every time looking back on it, it was the killer (livery) one..

..but the pooch marketing dept knows..:LOL: (. knows **** ***t...:mad: .. and gents it's those idiots that have killed the canine....:mad: )
Absolutely spot on Mr A, Revell etc could make ends meet just producing one scheme, but the costs for plastic are much lower and consequently you don't need to sell as many to make your money back. Corgi needed to be a little more patient, I think they still would have made their money back but only with limiting releases and keeping them in stock as long as was needed. Revell would release one killer livery as you say, and sell it. A few years later maybe another. Keeps it fresh for the diehards but allows what you've got to filter through. Corgis probelm was too much, ad as you say, Stinger as the first Mustang? Which idiot sanctioned that for release at all, let alone a first issue...

[Martin Bull]

I'm just really glad I've got the ones I have.....:)

[CFBC]

I'm just really glad I've got the ones I have.....:)

Likewise MB and some extra and signed from last years BOB Day. :cool

[Red 2]

Likewise MB and some extra and signed from last years BOB Day. :cool

Ditto....a few Vet snapped aerials and what the Vets did to my gun covers .....well, my therapist says I'll get over it eventually....not sad or bitter......much.....http://www.smileygenerator.us/community/searchsmiley/c/sad-crying.gif
:LOL:

[KO-B]

A 1/32nd Spit is very much on my 'to do' list for this year, I have K5054 but I'd like a 'proper' WW2 camo version. Looking at Tri's pictures I'd be happy with any of 'em. Are they all good 'uns? Most importantly are there any I should avoid? How about the working range one? Apart from the slightly naff stand is the model itself worth going for at a sensible price? How much is too much to pay for one? Your opinions would be greatfully appreciated.

KO-B

[Craig]

In my humble opinion PR-F is the one to go for. Cracking model, classic Battle of Britain scheme and still readily available at a fair price. Would only rate "Grumpy" Unwin's ahead of it, but if you want that one I fear you'd have to be prepared to pay a premium... :)

[dilligafocau]

In my humble opinion PR-F is the one to go for. Cracking model, classic Battle of Britain scheme and still readily available at a fair price. Would only rate "Grumpy" Unwin's ahead of it, but if you want that one I fear you'd have to be prepared to pay a premium... :)

Yep agree PRF is the best value Spit I reckon.

[david cotton]

How about the working range one? Apart from the slightly naff stand is the model itself worth going for at a sensible price? How much is too much to pay for one? Your opinions would be greatfully appreciated.

KO-B

PRF, Kiwi, Grumpy, Lane or Bader, are all fine models.

PRF is your classic Battle of Britain and is a fine model.

The first working rang Spit is OK, but costs alot. The last working range Spit is a stinker.....avoid it:)

[minter]

In my humble opinion PR-F is the one to go for. Cracking model, classic Battle of Britain scheme and still readily available at a fair price. Would only rate "Grumpy" Unwin's ahead of it, but if you want that one I fear you'd have to be prepared to pay a premium... :)

when you say premium arnt they still only at about original RRP ?

[minter]

A 1/32nd Spit is very much on my 'to do' list for this year, I have K5054 but I'd like a 'proper' WW2 camo version. Looking at Tri's pictures I'd be happy with any of 'em. Are they all good 'uns? Most importantly are there any I should avoid? How about the working range one? Apart from the slightly naff stand is the model itself worth going for at a sensible price? How much is too much to pay for one? Your opinions would be greatfully appreciated.

KO-B


all ths spits i think are great, shame they f#cked up the hurricane, reckon they should have done the 109E instead of the G :(

[kevjb64]

when you say premium arnt they still only at about original RRP ?

Yep only Grumpy and Lane seem to sell over RRP , once or twice Bader has made it but all the rest settle in the 60 - 90 range at the mo ! :)

[kevjb64]

all ths spits i think are great, shame they f#cked up the hurricane, reckon they should have done the 109E instead of the G :(

Agree it ain't rocket science , the E was IMPO a far better commercial choice , still rumours are that HM may be having a crack at one . :)

[minter]

Agree it ain't rocket science , the E was IMPO a far better commercial choice , still rumours are that HM may be having a crack at one . :)

interesting, i hope they do a desert green spotty E/4 trop :D

[Elmer]

Agree it ain't rocket science , the E was IMPO a far better commercial choice , still rumours are that HM may be having a crack at one . :)

What rumours? Where are they coming from?

[CFBC]

What rumours? Where are they coming from?

They ARE only rumours at present Elmer... Nothing is confirmed. Don't "have to sit down" just yet... :D

[Sailor.]

:wacko: A yellow nosed barsted for the Spits to chase about would be excellent. :wacko:

[theodore]

I've looked on E-bay for Corgi 1/32nd scale Spits and the prices rise somewhat rapidly!! Does anybody out there (Pink Floyd, no pun intended!! :) ) have an 'extra' Spit that they would like to sell to a fellow 'hardcore' WW2 diecast aircraft and armor collector?

[david cotton]

I've looked on E-bay for Corgi 1/32nd scale Spits and the prices rise somewhat rapidly!! Does anybody out there (Pink Floyd, no pun intended!! :) ) have an 'extra' Spit that they would like to sell to a fellow 'hardcore' WW2 diecast aircraft and armor collector?

These are very rare :eek: I don't think many members have one....let alone a spare :unsure:

[Red 2]

These are very rare :eek: I don't think many members have one....let alone a spare :unsure:

Not as rare as you would think as PR-F still pops up on UK internet retailers at circa £50 now and again. A Lane or Grumpy will set you back more BUT , as for the US situation, that may be completey different due to Corgi's past total inability to move stock to where demand allegedly was.

[david cotton]

Over the last couple of days, I have seen to PRF Spitfires go on Ebay. Both made mid thirties, so not a very good price.:(

The Limited edition 1/32 Spitfires seem to be doing better :)

[boondogger]

Lane Spit went for £76 yesterday. I know, I bid £75:(

[Pilgrim_uk]

Yeah been noticing those PRF's might snap one up and turn it into a 602 spit. :)

Strip it bare.

[Black Dog]

Over the last couple of days, I have seen to PRF Spitfires go on Ebay. Both made mid thirties, so not a very good price.:(

The Limited edition 1/32 Spitfires seem to be doing better :)

I watched those two make mid thirties too but guessed it might have been something to do with the advertised condition of the boxes? Another PR-F described as mint model and box went for 76 pounds tonight. Could be that the very best ones are fetching the better prices perhaps?

Also noticed the same seller got 50 quid for the Deere Spitfire :confused: and 107 pounds for Lane.............and I should know!!

[Agent X20]

The money will definitely be on the ones in mint condition (and can proved to be by the photos..).. the gap will only widen.

If that is it as far as Spitfire production goes, then I predict you are going to be looking at £150-200 for a minty mint 1/32 (pooch) Spitfire in three or four years.. maybe more...

[Craig]

The money will definitely be on the ones in mint condition (and can proved to be by the photos..).. the gap will only widen.

If that is it as far as Spitfire production goes, then I predict you are going to be looking at £150-200 for a minty mint 1/32 (pooch) Spitfire in three or four years.. maybe more...

That's a bold prediction from our friends on the LAPG... :eek:

[minter]

If that is it as far as Spitfire production goes, then I predict you are going to be looking at £150-200 for a minty mint 1/32 (pooch)

what about a minter one :D only out the box once

[Red 2]

what about a minter one :D only out the box once

with remarque?;) :D Priceless...,.

[kevjb64]

The money will definitely be on the ones in mint condition (and can proved to be by the photos..).. the gap will only widen.

If that is it as far as Spitfire production goes, then I predict you are going to be looking at £150-200 for a minty mint 1/32 (pooch) Spitfire in three or four years.. maybe more...

I think that is the kinda price you would need to see in the secondary before the hound may be tempted to put their toes back in the water ( and even then with their current molds it may still be a big IF ) . At the moment a lot of work has been done in trying to get the hound out of the awful mess it got itself into by concentrating on its core 1:72 product , whilst things are looking much better still nothing is certain . So as you say it may well be the end of the line for these models .

What is the LAPG forecast for the ME109 , Mossie and Hurri though ???:)

[Agent X20]

As said.. those prices will come about if we see no more large stuff from the pooch. What with general wear and tear, broken aerials, missing gun covers and pussy cats various, the numbers of mint models in circulation will get fewer and fewer to the point where the investors will hoard and the collectors will to find it tough to pick up anything reasonable for less than three figures.

The Spitfires will lead the way in the price just because of the deterioration that happens to them.. and because of the icon it is.

Condition of the model will become paramount.

The 109's will pick up in price but at a much slower pace... why.. I have a couple of Spitfires at home in boxes. I cannot take them out of the box as I will not get them back in the box and retain that mint BNIB moniker... you cant repackage a Spit... a 109 you can and it has less bits that fall off.

The 109 is not the iconic yellow nosed tail strutted BoB.. so again it won't be too valuable that quickly.

P51's... landfill.... everyone does P51's in all shapes and sizes.. there will be some more popular than others and there will be the odd one that is in demand from time to time, but is it diecast.. or plastic..?

Hurricane.. god awful nose and it dont stand up on its feet that well.. printed gun panels dont help.. its just not the model the Spitfire is...

If they really want to create a winner then you need an early BoF two blader Hurricane... ( let alone a prototype..!) Give them their due though, the last one has turned out better than I believe they expected so there may be 'one' that in the future has value. I suppose it all depends where the £20 ones ended up.. if in the sandpit, then pristine Keith Park ones, one day may command a value..

Mosquito - Sometime in the distant future MZ will sell their last 'blue Mossie and prices will rise.. IMHO this is the best biggest piece of mass produced diecast ever made.. (okay there are the FM ones but they just look like scaled up toys...).. it was obviously the toss of a coin as to whether bomber or fighter.. Its a pity if we dont see a fighter bomber.. and it would be nice to see another pathfinder with iconic letter codes and a glass nose.. The two either side of the blue jobbie will for a long time command more money, as to whether that in time becomes a good investment, I dont know, its a really big bugger and to that point there will be a limited market for ones actually out there on display.

As per the Airfix rep.. Spitfires sell... and to say otherwise would be swimming against the current..

As for other types.. it really is a lot of raw material ..packaging .. shipping for sod all money... I think you will see more diecasters go for smaller scales.. the 1/32's may be better suited in a commercial world to plastic..:eek:

Hey Ho...

[minter]

BoF two blader hurri you say, that would be great, get cobber kain on the map

[tomswel1]

I think theres too much fuss over this word "mint" to say the minute you display the model it is no longer mint is ridiculous whats the point of having these things if your never going see anything other than the box? and they can be placed back in the same condition as when first purchased which is as mint as they get,so whats the difference?

[minter]

thats right, to me mint means not just me name but an object that has no scratches,bumps,dents or paint missing, dont really care if its been out the box and been fiddled with

[tomswel1]

exactly, they are meant to be displayed and if looked after condition will not change from day one, wheres the enjoyment of keeping a box in cupboard to keep something "MINT" must be sad

[tomswel1]

Personally i think the 1/32 corgi spits and hurricanes are the best corgi have produced, more difficult to display with their size but far better to look at on display than the 1/72's, wasn't impressed with the other 1/32 messers though,dont seem to have the same impact.and the lane battle scarred is wonderful. One recently went on ebay for £150 and i got mine free,what a result.

[minter]

i think 1 or 2 109s are ok, but theres a few that dont light my fire, old subject i know but should have done a desert one, and who knows what their 190 would have looked like

[Agent X20]

See Tricatus has revamped his entry for KL-B...

[tomswel1]

would love to see a 1/32 battle scarred hurricane

[P51D]

Personally i think the 1/32 corgi spits and hurricanes are the best corgi have produced, more difficult to display with their size but far better to look at on display than the 1/72's, wasn't impressed with the other 1/32 messers though,dont seem to have the same impact.and the lane battle scarred is wonderful. One recently went on ebay for £150 and i got mine free,what a result.


I'm afraid i think the opposite i.e love the 109's but far less impressed with the Spits, Hurri's.

Have 1 spit (grumpy) 1 hurri (sea) and all the 109's.

Down to personal taste at the end of the day but main thing I dislike about the spit is the lack of dihedral (and i don't fancy bending the wings on mine. Don't like the overall look of the hurri that much, think it's the nose.

Admit the undercart isn't quite right on the 109 but it doesn't detract that much from the overall look. It's also easier to fix by displaying in flight :)

[tomswel1]

As you say its all down to taste ive only bought 1 109 so i might venture to another one,if you ever want rid of your grumpy let me know,that one i dont have

[P51D]

As you say its all down to taste ive only bought 1 109 so i might venture to another one,if you ever want rid of your grumpy let me know,that one i dont have

Which 109 do you have tomswell, you definitely need more of them :D

I was probably a bit harsh on the Spit earlier, appart from that one issue it is a very nice model. Won't be getting rid of my grumpy as i do want one example and this one is my favourite.

Must admit that if i had the space I would collect/display far more 1:32

[tomswel1]

the only one i had (sold on) was the Bf109G 'Black Double Chevron' but really didn't like it much but quite like the look of the AA34906 Bf109G-2 Heinrich Ehrle

[tomswel1]

I do love the spits but know what you mean with hurri noses,i'd prefer the messers if the if any had the more square shape (hope you know what i mean)

[P51D]

i'd prefer the messers if the if any had the more square shape (hope you know what i mean)

Know what you mean, would love to see some of the earlier Mk's myself. Think they are made in 1:32 but only in plastic (but still finished, not kits) at the moment.

[tomswel1]

dont know why corgi haven't done the earlier ones,they to seem over produce on one model to me, i would certainly be buying 2 or 3 of the early 1/32 messers.
How i'd love to see a 1/32 stuka but feel the range of 1/32's is very poor if like me you dont like mustangs etc. To be honest its only the the spits and hurri's ive liked so far.Needs more variety as personally i prefer 1/32 to 1/72 but the 1/48 ww1 aircraft are keeping the interest up but i hope they dont produce too many of the same ones like they have with 1/72 spits and hurri's.There's only so many of near enough the same thing that you want.

[dilligafocau]

This fine example of a 1/32 Spitfire landed on the doorstep today, as with most of the 'older' Corgi models I have been buying, it escapes me why on earth did'nt I grab one earlier. This Alan Deere Spitfire is very nice indeed :cool:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff93/dilligafocau/Kiwi1small.jpg

[Cardinal]

This fine example of a 1/32 Spitfire landed on the doorstep today, as with most of the 'older' Corgi models I have been buying, it escapes me why on earth did'nt I grab one earlier. This Alan Deere Spitfire is very nice indeed :cool:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff93/dilligafocau/Kiwi1small.jpg

I stuffed mine up ... :wacko: :( (although it had plenty of QC issues to start with :mad:). Considering making it 'battle-scarred ...

To date, I haven't been particularly lucky with the Corgi 1/32 Spits - pilot with no arms on the Lane; spinner fell off 'Grumpy'; 'Kiwi', paint and fit issues ...

[dilligafocau]

I stuffed mine up ... :wacko: :( (although it had plenty of QC issues to start with :mad:). Considering making it 'battle-scarred ...

To date, I haven't been particularly lucky with the Corgi 1/32 Spits - pilot with no arms on the Lane; spinner fell off 'Grumpy'; 'Kiwi', paint and fit issues ...

Hope you have better luck with the Mossie, its got twice as many propellers to fall off & crew to turn up armless :D

[Dutchie]

This fine example of a 1/32 Spitfire landed on the doorstep today, as with most of the 'older' Corgi models I have been buying, it escapes me why on earth did'nt I grab one earlier. This Alan Deere Spitfire is very nice indeed :cool:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff93/dilligafocau/Kiwi1small.jpg

And a top photo:cool: from a very special angle:cool:

[ZS-VAN]

Nice pic Dilli. We deserve more! ;) There's not really any good pics of this one. Your shot makes me think I shouldn't have passed this one up. :(

[dilligafocau]

And a top photo:cool: from a very special angle:cool:

Just checked Tri's photos, I think I got a slightly lower angle & further back than Tim to show off the eye catching underbody :)


Nice pic Dilli. We deserve more! ;) There's not really any good pics of this one. Your shot makes me think I shouldn't have passed this one up. :(

This Spit is a good one ZS-VAN, though the gun covers were looser than my other Spits....must keep an eye on them.:unsure:

[FierytheAngelsFell]

I had the Lane and the Deere Spits arrive earlier this week and I'm very happy with both. I was spooked by some of the quality control issues mentioned above but my models appear to be fine. The only flaw I can see is that the Deere Spit stand has its 'hand' screwed on backwards. That should be relatively easy to fix and if not, I can always swap it around with the other stands I have.

I bought the Lane and Deere thinking I'd dump the Bader on the Bay. Seeing all three together I just can't do it, I tell you, I just can't.:eek:

[dilligafocau]

I had the Lane and the Deere Spits arrive earlier this week and I'm very happy with both. I was spooked by some of the quality control issues mentioned above but my models appear to be fine. The only flaw I can see is that the Deere Spit stand has its 'hand' screwed on backwards. That should be relatively easy to fix and if not, I can always swap it around with the other stands I have.

I bought the Lane and Deere thinking I'd dump the Bader on the Bay. Seeing all three together I just can't do it, I tell you, I just can't.:eek:

My Prototype Spitfire stand came this way, easy job to unscrew the retaining pin and reverse the stand :)

[FierytheAngelsFell]

I gave it a go when the model first arrived but that tiny screw is tight and the screwdriver is so fine that it's hard to get a good grip. At least, that's my excuse so far! :o

[dilligafocau]

I gave it a go when the model first arrived but that tiny screw is tight and the screwdriver is so fine that it's hard to get a good grip. At least, that's my excuse so far! :o

I believe I used a 'larger than you would think' philips screwdiver that had a large handle on it from one of my many incomplete screwdriver sets. The smaller drivers never seen to have the correct blade angle and you end up rounding out the end of the screw .

[FierytheAngelsFell]

I believe I used a 'larger than you would think' philips screwdiver that had a large handle on it from one of my many incomplete screwdriver sets. The smaller drivers never seen to have the correct blade angle and you end up rounding out the end of the screw .

Thanks for the tip. I'll give it a go.

[ZS-VAN]

OK, after mulling this one over (for a while now), maybe I'm ready for a Kiwi's Spit. What would be a reasonable price for one of these?

[Daywalker]

OK, after mulling this one over (for a while now), maybe I'm ready for a Kiwi's Spit. What would be a reasonable price for one of these?

One at the moment on the bay:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Corgi-1-32-Alan-Deere-Kiwi-Spitfire_W0QQitemZ200247646420QQcmdZViewItem?hash= item200247646420&_trkparms=72%3A823%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C2 40%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

[Dutchie]

OK, after mulling this one over (for a while now), maybe I'm ready for a Kiwi's Spit. What would be a reasonable price for one of these?

Price is alway a ??:confused: ??
But the "KIWI" is a great model!!!:)

[ZS-VAN]

How's the working range Spits? I'm thinking Malan. I'm not too interested in the working features, what's it like as a model? :unsure:

[david cotton]

How's the working range Spits? I'm thinking Malan. I'm not too interested in the working features, what's it like as a model? :unsure:

The Malen is a poor quality example of the Spitfire :( The Tuck working range Spitfire is OK, but the stand over powers the model.

Has to Be Bader, Kiwi, Lane, Grumpy or PRF.... the big 5 :)

[ZS-VAN]

The Malen is a poor quality example of the Spitfire :( The Tuck working range Spitfire is OK, but the stand over powers the model.

Has to Be Bader, Kiwi, Lane, Grumpy or PRF.... the big 5 :)

And here I thought that the Big 5 referred to African animals. :rolleyes: :D So how much for the kiwi? :unsure:

[david cotton]

And here I thought that the Big 5 referred to African animals. :rolleyes: :D So how much for the kiwi? :unsure:

I would pay £55 ish for a good Kiwi. However, I have not been keeping an eye on the 1/32 Spitfire prices for the last 6 months :o . The prices go up and down like a yo yo. We can even effect the price by talking about them on the forum :D

You need to be sure it has gun covers, as the Kiwi green shows up the wrong colour gun covers alot. When you order spares you don't get a choice as to what Spitfire they are from :(

Some Kiwi's seem to be missing the cockpit mirror, but this is minor and I did not even notice it was not there, until a forum member said about them.:o

[Pilgrim_uk]

Just cant get use to that "peely wally" green on the Kiwi. If i ever had to get rid of a spit it would be that one.


I would agree with DC on the Malan though its distinctly average and the Tuck is much better not that different from grumpy when you put them together.

[Craig]

My own recommendation would be PR-F, a superb Spitfire and still readily available for sensible money. I'm very much attatched to mine, and a proper architypal Battle of Britain aircraft

[kevjb64]

The Malen is a poor quality example of the Spitfire :( The Tuck working range Spitfire is OK, but the stand over powers the model.

Has to Be Bader, Kiwi, Lane, Grumpy or PRF.... the big 5 :)

I agree about the Malan though the last couple have made big money on the bay and they seem to have generally dropped off the radar ?? :confused:

[FierytheAngelsFell]

Perry has the Kiwi on sale for US$99 but you have to add on postage (which to Australia was US$60 for me :eek: ). The Flying Mule has some 1/32 Spitfires too, but they all seem to be $150.

I have the Kiwi, Bader, Lane and PR-F big Spits. Love 'em all, especially the Lane.

I had the Malan working model for a while. Hated the stand. Loved the sound of the Merlin engine. The colours on the aircraft seemed a bit strong. I remember it being very green. Still, I'd go another ZP-A is they did it so it could be displayed on its wheels.

[ZS-VAN]

I have four of the five and was wondering whether the Kiwi was worth getting. I still need a Catalina and Halifax and will not be obliging Corgi/Hornby with the higher price for Friday the Thirteenth so I'll go after Barton. The question therefore is: a fifth Spit or a Cat/Hallibag? :unsure:

[FierytheAngelsFell]

I have four of the five and was wondering whether the Kiwi was worth getting. I still need a Catalina and Halifax and will not be obliging Corgi/Hornby with the higher price for Friday the Thirteenth so I'll go after Barton. The question therefore is: a fifth Spit or a Cat/Hallibag? :unsure:

That's a very tough call. The Kiwi Spit is bl**dy lovely but the Barton Halifax is also almost too cool for words. Toss a coin mate. Whatever happens, you are on to a winner.

[hworth18]

That's a very tough call. The Kiwi Spit is bl**dy lovely but the Barton Halifax is also almost too cool for words. Toss a coin mate. Whatever happens, you are on to a winner.

I'd go for the Cat/Hali combo. ;)

[Red 2]

I'd go for the Cat/Hali combo. ;)

Second that, despite my 1/32 Spit addiction.

[ZS-VAN]

Thanks guys, I was heading that direction. :cool

[Agent X20]

Get the Cat now whilst its relatively cheap.. The Halifax may be dumped later.. The Spitfire you just need to kep an eye out for... one will turn up..:)

[david cotton]

Get the Cat now whilst its relatively cheap.. The Halifax may be dumped later.. The Spitfire you just need to kep an eye out for... one will turn up..:)

I would go with that.

The Spitfires are great models, but they still only get around their original RRP :unsure:

The Halifax has not yet been sold as a Special Offer......better known as being dumped......so I think it is worth waiting.

The Cat is a good model and is at a good price now......get em while their hot :D ........I have the Diorama one :)

[ZS-VAN]

Get the Cat now whilst its relatively cheap.. The Halifax may be dumped later.. The Spitfire you just need to kep an eye out for... one will turn up..:)

I would go with that.

The Spitfires are great models, but they still only get around their original RRP :unsure:

The Halifax has not yet been sold as a Special Offer......better known as being dumped......so I think it is worth waiting.

The Cat is a good model and is at a good price now......get em while their hot :D ........I have the Diorama one :)


I'm having difficulty finding Barton at all, let alone finding one under $120. :( Postage seems cheaper from the US for me. You guys think they'll sell for less yet? :unsure: Of the Big Five Spits I think the Kiwi ranks 5th for me so I'll be taking your advice. Unless of course I have a relapse of sorts. :rolleyes:

[Craig]

Think the Halifax dumping is almost certain. How many were made? If not, the first issue is a guaranteed dumper. Patience... ;)

[Agent X20]

Patience ZS... they should turn up somewhere..

[kevjb64]

As said may take a while as they are at the back of an 800K queue but they will arrive eventually , maybe not in such large numbers as we are used to but bargains they will be . :)

[dilligafocau]

I'm having difficulty finding Barton at all, let alone finding one under $120. :( Postage seems cheaper from the US for me. You guys think they'll sell for less yet? :unsure: Of the Big Five Spits I think the Kiwi ranks 5th for me so I'll be taking your advice. Unless of course I have a relapse of sorts. :rolleyes:

No luck with Aikens? They still have these listed at $120 :)

[ZS-VAN]

Think the Halifax dumping is almost certain. How many were made? If not, the first issue is a guaranteed dumper. Patience... ;)

Patience ZS... they should turn up somewhere..

Eerrr, yes, but in the US? Remember, I'm considering postage too. As you all know, Parcel Force is a wonderful sevice. :rolleyes:

[ZS-VAN]

No luck with Aikens? They still have these listed at $120 :)

His postage is particularly steep relative to others. I'll have a look and ask. ;)

[dilligafocau]

His postage is particularly steep relative to others. I'll have a look and ask. ;)

I see, just got quoted $US70 post for 2 Halifaxes to Oz. Thought was just about right, especially as the models were $US60 all up cheaper than my usual supplier :)

[ZS-VAN]

Got a call yesterday from a local model car dealer. He had someone in with a Kiwi Spit and Stinger Mustang, so he took them. Looking for US$90 each. No postage but 50 clicks or so away. I'll check them out tomorrow. Not sure about Stinger though. Ships1250 on MHII bought one recently and his pics looked good. :unsure:

[ZS-VAN]

Bought the Kiwi Spit for about $95. Mirror, aerial and guncovers all intact. Apparenty never removed from the box! Looks like it too. :D

[dilligafocau]

Bought the Kiwi Spit for about $95. Mirror, aerial and guncovers all intact. Apparenty never removed from the box! Looks like it too. :D

Oh you mean one of these.......:D

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff93/dilligafocau/Kiwi1small.jpg

Absolutely beautiful, for the previous owner not to have seen the scheme underneath is a crime :o His loss is your gain ZS-VAN :cool:

[ZS-VAN]

Oh you mean one of these.......:D

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff93/dilligafocau/Kiwi1small.jpg

Absolutely beautiful, for the previous owner not to have seen the scheme underneath is a crime :o His loss is your gain ZS-VAN :cool:

Indeed! The very reason I wanted one! :D When I checked the plane underneath the shop owner was very surprised by the black and white. Nice photo Dilli. ;)

[Martin Bull]

Absolutely ! :cool: This is one I bought when they were relatively cheap and then thought I didn't really 'need' it. But it has steadily grown on me.....:)

[FierytheAngelsFell]

Love the Kiwi and the other 1/32 Spits. Wish they had a bit of dihedral but never mind. Al Deere's is a beauty. I especially like the early Battle of Britain underside which makes this one preferable to the working Malan Spitfire with the Godaweful fugly stand.

For some reason Perry's continue to flog this one off relatively cheaply. It's a good US$89 cheaper than the Lane and Bader Spitfires. Go figure. Anyway, she's top shelf in my display cabinet.

[Cardinal]

Mine (Deere Spit) was less than perfect from a quality control perspective - poor fit and dodgy finish (hence my not very successful attempts at fixing things :wacko: ) :(.

[DCRanger]

The only thing that niggles me with the Deere Spit is the wrong positioning of the Kiwi. Why on earth did they position it half way over the door.:confused:

Other than that, it's a great model.

[dilligafocau]

The only thing that niggles me with the Deere Spit is the wrong positioning of the Kiwi. Why on earth did they position it half way over the door.:confused:

Other than that, it's a great model.

I would imagine the pad printing process was too far down the track to correct the placement of the Kiwi......that's if the bods reponsible were alerted to it at all during the production process :unsure:

Honourable mention must go to the peeps responsible for the reverse camo fiasco on the Lancs too :o

Might be an idea for a thread.....things that make you go doh!

[ZS-VAN]

The only thing that niggles me with the Deere Spit is the wrong positioning of the Kiwi. Why on earth did they position it half way over the door.:confused:

Other than that, it's a great model.

That's what initially prevented me from buying this one ages ago. I remember the kiwi being discussed on here long ago.

[Kubikali]

Though I am starting to thing 1/32nd really makes a too large a model I haven't put a 1/32 Spit out of my head just jet. I missed out on one last week, a Kiwi one if I recall correctly, with only a couple of punds recently.

Someday... :o

[CFBC]

Just put my Bader Spitfire into the newly built cabinets! :cool 1/6th RAF Pilot now to dress and include...

[Pilgrim_uk]

Its the only Spitfire i dont have is the Bader got 2 Grumpies, 2 Lanes, 2 PRF's, 1 Malan, 1 Tuck and 1 Kiwi.

One went for 60 quid the other night was too drunk to remember. :D

[dilligafocau]

Its the only Spitfire i dont have is the Bader got 2 Grumpies, 2 Lanes, 2 PRF's, 1 Malan, 1 Tuck and 1 Kiwi.

One went for 60 quid the other night was too drunk to remember. :D

Prototype Spit ?......it grows on you........it really does :D

[Cardinal]

Just put my Bader Spitfire into the newly built cabinets! :cool 1/6th RAF Pilot now to dress and include...


That just doesn't sound right ...! :wacko: :D :LOL:

[dilligafocau]

That just doesn't sound right ...! :wacko: :D :LOL:

It does if you add......."two wooden legs" :)