Pictures from Toy & Hobby Show - Coventry, UK

[zed550]

Originally Posted by Agent X20

Thought another Tristar (grey) had been done - if all the vocals at Luton were to be believed....

VC10 super.. from Gemini.. ( cough Jimmy Chimp...) I'll buy it....

tristar needs a few add on bits apparently

[Shawn 507]

The C-17 looks good, the Charleston gang are old friends. Is GA going forward with the Skyraider? Like the Camouflaged Phantom, will be getting that one. Pity the GA customer service folks don't answer their mail. Still need the missing gear doors for my RN 004 Phantom.

[hworth18]

Originally Posted by Agent X20

Dunno about a summary execution Harry, but IMPO in this day and age, that sort of casting, that type of mold, irrespective of subject matter..... should never have gotten offa the drawing board..

Then maybe a caning behind the shop? 50 lashes?

The overall shape looks good as does the canopy shape, But if HM releases these as is, mine will be stripped, the joints filled and repainted.. Just can't have it looking like this.

[Elmer]

Originally Posted by The Defiant Man

Gotta agree with Agent about the P-51's joint over the nose and everything needs tightening up by the look of it, including the wobbly u/c....

I am sure the undercarriage can be fixed. The tooling placing the join lines across the nose and the wing root? Highly doubtful. Tightening up will help a little, but the fundamental problem will remain. This tooling has got to be HM's worse design yet... and done to such an iconic subject? Whoever tooled this and approved it didn't do it with any TLC. A miracle isn't going to save this tooling. The best miracle that can be hoped for is HM cuts its losses and cancels the release.

[Hornchurch]

Originally Posted by Elmer

...but the fundamental problem will remain.

This tooling has got to be HM's worse design yet...

.....and done to such an iconic subject?

Whoever tooled this and approved it didn't do it with any TLC.

A miracle isn't going to save this tooling.

The best miracle that can be hoped for is HM cuts its losses and cancels the release.

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Sadly, I reckon you've got more chance of being bitten by Napolean's Dog

Various are "assuring" us that this "final product" won't have those "upside-down speech bubble" join-lines (or, if they are, they won't be as loose as a 'Whore's-Drawers'........yeah I'll believe it when I see it)


As you say; an 'iconic' plane (one I would've thought MIGHT be treated sympathetically).



I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T expect to "have to" lash-out the lions share of £ 40 & then be expected to buy a tube (or TWO) of Squadron-Signal Body-Putty (filler) in order to "put things right".....

Kinda defeats the object of buying diecast in the 1st place.

Thank God Tamiya do a decent 48th kit (of which I bought loads in the '90s)

Personally, I can't see 'em changing their tooling (call me a born-cynic)


BTW Elmer (B), I'd re-phrase that line you wrote..."whoever tooled this..." (towards the end) with, "needs shooting" instead of your (polite) "didn't do it with any TLC"............ (too-kind, by far )


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[Ducktape Corkfeet]

Yip, that Mustang's a right lemon, horrible joins. The Arrow on the other hand looks like it'll be the diecast to have....dare I say perfect? Will wait for 201 to go with my TSR.2.
WANT! WANT! WANT! that C-17, but like most I'll wait for an RAF one. The Camo Phantom has been at the top of my wishlist for years, so I'll be getting that. I'm only sorry Corgi couldn't have sorted that one alot sooner though.
Skyraider looks phenomenal for those interested. The Raptor I still find too toy-like in my opinion.

[Hornchurch]

Originally Posted by Ducktape Corkfeet

Yip, that Mustang's a right lemon, horrible joins. .

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" I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T expect to "have to" lash-out the lions share of £ 40 & then be expected to buy a tube (or TWO) of Squadron-Signal Body-Putty (filler) in order to "put things right".....

Kinda defeats the object of buying diecast in the 1st place. "





I've found some "therapy" for Elmer.....


Try these mate.....



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Look closely & jiggle them around a bit = will help you "acclimatise".....



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[Elmer]

Originally Posted by Hornchurch

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Sadly, I reckon you've got more chance of being bitten by Napolean's Dog

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You are right HC. And sadly the dog's bite would be much less painful than accepting this tooling as the D Mustang standard at 1/48 for the next umpteenth years.

I will never look at speech bubbles the same... ever again. They will always be a painful reminder of what could have been. Within the bubble I will never see text but putty.

Thanks for cheering me up, HC! At least you gave me a laugh at the expense of HM. But I do not think I can acclamatise, mate.

[sufapilot]

The GA RAF camo'd Phantom IS very nice! Definitely getting one of those.

[The Defiant Man]

Originally Posted by zed550

skyraider is a rough casting mock up,mostly hand finished at the factory apart from a few minor details added so is not even up to prepro standard.

Ok, that no doubt explains its rough appearance

Originally Posted by Elmer

I am sure the undercarriage can be fixed. The tooling placing the join lines across the nose and the wing root? Highly doubtful. Tightening up will help a little, but the fundamental problem will remain. This tooling has got to be HM's worse design yet... and done to such an iconic subject? Whoever tooled this and approved it didn't do it with any TLC. A miracle isn't going to save this tooling. The best miracle that can be hoped for is HM cuts its losses and cancels the release.

I was being kind in my assessment .....not got involved on this one on it's own thread because it is of no interest to me anyway (interesting thread to read though ).

[sniperUK]

The JP looks good, I will need a few of them , the 43 Sqn phantom is now ordered and with the GJ Skyraider I hope we do get the FAA AEW now.The C-17 if it appears in RAF markings will be joining the list as will a grey Tristar if it's made.

[blue steel]

Originally Posted by Agent X20

Skyraider..... More Gemini vs Hobbymaster sh*t then or 'tother way round.... ... : FFS about time they started talking so as the punters dont end up with two molds.... what a waste.... there is so much else that could have been done.. this is getting as bad as civvie world.... One day no L188's.. now we have four separate molds.. and still no soddin Trident...

C17 looks a fair old bit of kit though and the F4 looks (for me) as though it should fly... wait till the rivet counters get their myopic viewpoint across...

That P-51.. whatever you do, get rid of the vertical joint line... I could build kits like that at 3 years old.. NOT acceptable on diecast.... It's far too messy around the nose and wing joint to be considered acceptable as a model going forward (2010 and all that) .... DYAF..... scrap it now....

Although to be fair, the Gemini Skyraider wasn't a secret so no talking necessary HM just saw the potential of getting the Skyraider done first although it looks as though the Gemini model won't be too far behind

[Seafire47]

If you delve back to the very beginning of the HM Release Information thread, you'll see that HM had plans to produce the Skyraider back in 2007. (In post #2 Sniper was hoping for an RN AEW version! ). They also had a load of other models in the pipeline and after Gemini unveiled their Skyraider prototype (along with the Spey Phantom) HM dropped out of the race.

However with the huge delays that Gemini hit and the uncertainty whether we'd ever see any new castings from them, HM obviously decided it was worth dusting off their plans for the Skyraider and going for it. (They managed to announce their Phantom, develop it and get 3 or 4 production models out of the door in the time it took Gemini to go from their prototype to the first, badly recieved production models.) I seem to remember that at the time the decision was very well received as most of us had given up any hope of seeing Gemini's Skyraider.

Whether it's worth Gemini proceding with their Skyraider now that they've been beaten to the punch by HM only time will tell. (Echoes of Corgi's A-10 and A-4?) I just hope that we get an RN AEW version from someone!

[Max Reheat]

Originally Posted by Seafire47

I just hope that we get an RN AEW version from someone!

Can't argue with that, and given that Gemini have this one tooled already maybe its an ideal one for them to launch with and beat HM at its own game especially in the UK market. However, given HM's Skyraider quality and lower price (based on HM vs. GA Phantoms) maybe I should shut up and wait for HM to get a round tuit

[Max Reheat]

Originally Posted by CFBC

Oxford Diecast also had a good mixtures of aircraft in their cabinet which looked quite interesting and a blend of manufacturers tools now being used, but my images are pi$$poor....

CFBC (or Zed), any sign (or even crap pics ) of Oxford's WW2 Meteor/V1 combo as seen in Nuremberg? I contacted Oxford recently about this but other than saying its not announced yet and they have about 40 aircraft in their range, I didn't get any joy.

Cheers.

[zed550]

all atlas stuff were in a cabinet hence probably why CFBC's pics were not too good to show you.
i did'nt bother as the range holds no interest to me.as to the skyraider you may find the comparisons of interest and as a certain person thinks i will be bias with my involvement i will be dealing with basically the pros,cons accuracy etc particularly of the kits that were used as both company starting points you can then judge for yourself.

[von hitchofen]

nice



very nice



very nice indeed....

[Nimrod48]

The GA Phantom is a beauty only problem is where do I find a F C Hunter to keep it company